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Thread started 12/04/19 2:29pm

macaylasdad

Too early to ask about the sales for 1999 super deluxe?

Do we know any preliminary numbers as of yet?

[Edited 12/4/19 18:00pm]

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Reply #1 posted 12/04/19 3:22pm

Marrk

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Yes of course it's too early. I bought it and that's all that matters to me. It's hard to get hold of apparently though now. So yeah..whatever.

Yeah, we'll, we'll try to imagine what silence looks like.
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Reply #2 posted 12/04/19 6:01pm

macaylasdad

Marrk said:

Yes of course it's too early. I bought it and that's all that matters to me. It's hard to get hold of apparently though now. So yeah..whatever.

well at least we know there's one sold....

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Reply #3 posted 12/04/19 6:57pm

renfield

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It's not in the top 20 of Hits Daily Doubles' early projections, so it's selling fewer than 17k.

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Reply #4 posted 12/04/19 7:57pm

macaylasdad

renfield said:

It's not in the top 20 of Hits Daily Doubles' early projections, so it's selling fewer than 17k.

yikes.

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Reply #5 posted 12/04/19 10:27pm

nextedition

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Is there still a rule that every disc seperately counts? So a double album woukd count for 2?
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Reply #6 posted 12/05/19 1:00pm

renfield

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nextedition said:

Is there still a rule that every disc seperately counts? So a double album woukd count for 2?

That applies to certification (gold, platinum, etc) but doesn't apply to the weekly sales total.

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Reply #7 posted 12/05/19 3:07pm

jfenster

all my local stores have sold out

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Reply #8 posted 12/06/19 12:55am

WhisperingDand
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When it is that time, I want the head-to-head with Originals sales. It's pretty clear the Estate was trying out two different approaches--one a simple straightforward comp geared at general consumers, the other an intensive box geared at the more dedicated superfans who want all the excess.

I mean they didn't even try to reach the general audience with their in-store stock or lack thereof... anyway I'd imagine the inflated price point would factor in... and I also really don't even know if they still count it like the old days, we count this as a Quintuple-Record or what? Does the DVD get counted too?

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Reply #9 posted 12/06/19 4:45am

MattUK

In the UK midweek charts 1999 was no26 in the Album chart. Final chart will be issued today but suspect it will drop from this midweek position as sales are likely to be front loaded.

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Reply #10 posted 12/06/19 5:13am

lurker316

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jfenster said:

all my local stores have sold out


That's because most stores only got a few in stock.

When I called around to brick-and-mortar stores trying to find a copy (after Amazon told me I'd need to wait two weeks) I l found that most of the major retailers recieved zero copies, and the few that did get copies only got two or three tops...

...which actually tells you something. The record company and/or the retailers must not be projecting it to sell well, otherwise they would have shipped/stocked more.












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Reply #11 posted 12/06/19 6:15am

LoveGalore

WhisperingDandelions said:

When it is that time, I want the head-to-head with Originals sales. It's pretty clear the Estate was trying out two different approaches--one a simple straightforward comp geared at general consumers, the other an intensive box geared at the more dedicated superfans who want all the excess.

I mean they didn't even try to reach the general audience with their in-store stock or lack thereof... anyway I'd imagine the inflated price point would factor in... and I also really don't even know if they still count it like the old days, we count this as a Quintuple-Record or what? Does the DVD get counted too?

Its possible it would compete with Originals since Originals sold (a very respectable) ~65k or so. But it might take a while longer than Originals did sheerly due to availability.

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Reply #12 posted 12/06/19 7:53am

TwiliteKid

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The Rolling Stone chart (which uses different methodolgy and sources, but is typically pretty close to Billboard) has it at #20 this week: https://www.rollingstone....ts/albums/

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Reply #13 posted 12/06/19 7:58am

jdcxc

Just curious...why is WB not promoting with a song or video?
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Reply #14 posted 12/06/19 8:10am

TwiliteKid

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jdcxc said:

Just curious...why is WB not promoting with a song or video?

The whole set is available on streaming services - what would be the point of a single now?

A video could well be coming (Holly Rock was released well after Originals), but archival releases aren't generally promoted in the same way as new albums (and sales expectations are very different).

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Reply #15 posted 12/06/19 12:08pm

jdcxc

TwiliteKid said:



jdcxc said:


Just curious...why is WB not promoting with a song or video?


The whole set is available on streaming services - what would be the point of a single now?



A video could well be coming (Holly Rock was released well after Originals), but archival releases aren't generally promoted in the same way as new albums (and sales expectations are very different).



I understand, but most archival releases do not have the wealth of new material.
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Reply #16 posted 12/06/19 3:14pm

TwiliteKid

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jdcxc said:

TwiliteKid said:

The whole set is available on streaming services - what would be the point of a single now?

A video could well be coming (Holly Rock was released well after Originals), but archival releases aren't generally promoted in the same way as new albums (and sales expectations are very different).

I understand, but most archival releases do not have the wealth of new material.


But again, it's all available on streaming. It's not like commercial radio is going to jump on any of these tracks, so why bother with a single?

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Reply #17 posted 12/06/19 7:09pm

rdhull

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where is ROD?

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #18 posted 12/06/19 7:31pm

homesquid

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HDD reports just over 16,000 (14,570 pure album sales). If the majority of those are for the Super Deluxe it isn't a flop but I can't imagine these numbers are thrilling anyone. My only concern is any impact on future projects. What happened to all the Prince fans??

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Reply #19 posted 12/06/19 8:09pm

SoulAlive

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where is ROD?




lol
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Reply #20 posted 12/06/19 8:31pm

SoulAlive

I think the first-week sales would have been higher if this set had been more widely available.Many fans had problems trying to find a copy.
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Reply #21 posted 12/07/19 7:01am

dodgydicko

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Number 46 in the UK charts...and number 18 in the vinyl chart

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Reply #22 posted 12/07/19 8:41am

FunkiestOne

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homesquid said:

HDD reports just over 16,000 (14,570 pure album sales). If the majority of those are for the Super Deluxe it isn't a flop but I can't imagine these numbers are thrilling anyone. My only concern is any impact on future projects. What happened to all the Prince fans??

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There really haven't been that many hardcore fans in a long time. He didn't sell many records for the last 10-15 years or so. His concerts always sold out, but obviously only a small of those were hardcore fans who would want something like 1999 Deluxe. Most people just care about the hits and the live performances, perhaps.

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Reply #23 posted 12/07/19 9:17am

TKO

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homesquid said:

HDD reports just over 16,000 (14,570 pure album sales). If the majority of those are for the Super Deluxe it isn't a flop but I can't imagine these numbers are thrilling anyone. My only concern is any impact on future projects. What happened to all the Prince fans??

Almost 15k of $55/$100 sets?

That's amazing. It's over $1 MILLION in sales from only one week only US.

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Reply #24 posted 12/07/19 9:21am

LoveGalore

SDEs must be both a dream and a nightmare for Prince fans. On the one hand, it comes with oodles of new music. On the other hand, Prince hasn't sold well in 15 years, SDE packages that are a couple hundred dollars aren't platinum sellers in the first week, and the music industry hardly sells physical copies not tied to a concert ticket at all.

The release is doing pretty well and we are in no danger of them slowing down.
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Reply #25 posted 12/07/19 4:48pm

homesquid

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TKO said:

homesquid said:

HDD reports just over 16,000 (14,570 pure album sales). If the majority of those are for the Super Deluxe it isn't a flop but I can't imagine these numbers are thrilling anyone. My only concern is any impact on future projects. What happened to all the Prince fans??

Almost 15k of $55/$100 sets?

That's amazing. It's over $1 MILLION in sales from only one week only US.

That's IF all 15k were the Super Deluxe. There were two other configurations. The price of the SD is a steal for what you get! A FANTASTIC RELEASE.

If we want more of these we need to buy the damn thing.

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Reply #26 posted 12/07/19 7:48pm

ladygirl99

TKO said:

homesquid said:

HDD reports just over 16,000 (14,570 pure album sales). If the majority of those are for the Super Deluxe it isn't a flop but I can't imagine these numbers are thrilling anyone. My only concern is any impact on future projects. What happened to all the Prince fans??

Almost 15k of $55/$100 sets?

That's amazing. It's over $1 MILLION in sales from only one week only US.

Right. The estate is pretty happy I am sure. People need to chillax.

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Reply #27 posted 12/07/19 8:11pm

FunkyStrange

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all my local stores have sold out

Pretty easy to sell out when you only have three in stock.

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Reply #28 posted 12/08/19 5:16am

RODSERLING

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jdcxc said:


Just curious...why is WB not promoting with a song or video?


The whole set is available on streaming services - what would be the point of a single now?



A video could well be coming (Holly Rock was released well after Originals), but archival releases aren't generally promoted in the same way as new albums (and sales expectations are very different).



Before Holly Rock, there was a music video for Manic Monday.
So there is clearly a lack of promotion for 1999 deluxe.
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Reply #29 posted 12/08/19 5:18am

RODSERLING

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where is ROD?



Lol I don't know why, but the two previous topics about Originals sales were successively locked for me, so I gave up posting sales.
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