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Thread started 10/23/19 4:21am

BartVanHemelen

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Kid Creole talks about"The Sex Of It" (Classic Pop, October 2019)

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“Prince was a gentleman,” says Kid Creole. “I’ll always thank him for the gesture – but The Sex Of It was never going to be a mainstream hit. Because of its title, we had pushback from radio stations saying it was too overt. The message was ‘You can’t have a song called The SexOf It.’” He laughs, adding: “Given what’s on the radio today, it’s absurd to imagine that title was too overt. What can I tell you? Things change.”

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Reply #1 posted 10/23/19 4:50am

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I loved Kid Creole and the Coconuts. Then when I heard Prince made music for them I loved them all the more. Makes me feel good knowing Prince had the same good taste as I did.
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Reply #2 posted 10/23/19 7:22am

TheFman

I loved Kid Creole & Coconuts as well, but The Sex of it was one of their weaker singles. Guess they took it out of respect.

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Reply #3 posted 10/23/19 7:50am

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Think it got to like Number 15 in the charts here in the uk, so it did ok
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Reply #4 posted 10/23/19 12:14pm

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I still think Prince should have kept that for himself. I freaking love his vocals on it.

I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart.
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Reply #5 posted 10/23/19 2:31pm

piemel

Prince respected Kid Creole because... well because it's Kid Creole!!! August Darnell used a multi-cultural and multi-racial band, playing all kinds of cross over music and use a persona that must have made Prince smile. Lots of girls, zoot suits and the like. Check out Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band.

Kid Creole was an epic force of nature in the early 1980's.

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Reply #6 posted 10/23/19 2:45pm

SoulAlive

piemel said:

Prince respected Kid Creole because... well because it's Kid Creole!!! August Darnell used a multi-cultural and multi-racial band, playing all kinds of cross over music and use a persona that must have made Prince smile. Lots of girls, zoot suits and the like. Check out Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band.

Kid Creole was an epic force of nature in the early 1980's.

nod I also think Prince used a bit of the Kid Creole look and persona when he created the Time.In the spring of '82,Kid Creole and the Coconuts released an excellent single ("I'm A Wonderful Thing,Baby")....it's easy to imagine Morris Day singing that song.

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Reply #7 posted 10/23/19 4:36pm

TheFman

SoulAlive said:

piemel said:

Prince respected Kid Creole because... well because it's Kid Creole!!! August Darnell used a multi-cultural and multi-racial band, playing all kinds of cross over music and use a persona that must have made Prince smile. Lots of girls, zoot suits and the like. Check out Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band.

Kid Creole was an epic force of nature in the early 1980's.

nod I also think Prince used a bit of the Kid Creole look and persona when he created the Time.In the spring of '82,Kid Creole and the Coconuts released an excellent single ("I'm A Wonderful Thing,Baby")....it's easy to imagine Morris Day singing that song.

Yes, totally so. I was a fan before i even knew Prince. And when i did, I immediately put that link. That time i even said to myself that P knew where to get his inspiration...

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Reply #8 posted 10/23/19 6:11pm

jdcxc

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I still think Prince should have kept that for himself. I freaking love his vocals on it.



Yes! His sense of humor shines on his version...so clever. Kid’s version is cool too...should’ve been a bigger hit.
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Reply #9 posted 10/23/19 11:02pm

sovembol

They did an awesome job with the song. Its hard to imagine it covered. It's pretty similar to what Prince did with the demo.

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Reply #10 posted 10/29/19 12:19pm

MIGUELGOMEZ

I actually love the Kid Creole version.

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Reply #11 posted 10/29/19 6:49pm

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When I first saw Prince(r.i.p.) debut "The Sex Of it" live was on a surprise aftershow in 1987 after the MTV Video Awards. It was a hot funky night.

"That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when eye was doing the Purple Rain tour eye had a lot of people who eye knew eye'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream."prince
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Reply #12 posted 10/30/19 12:18pm

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

When I first saw Prince(r.i.p.) debut "The Sex Of it" live was on a surprise aftershow in 1987 after the MTV Video Awards. It was a hot funky night.

What else happened?

"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #13 posted 11/01/19 7:09pm

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nayroo2002 said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

When I first saw Prince(r.i.p.) debut "The Sex Of it" live was on a surprise aftershow in 1987 after the MTV Video Awards. It was a hot funky night.

What else happened?

http://princevault.com/in...er_1987-am

Chaka, Huey Lewis and Stevie Nicks. Not bad.

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Reply #14 posted 11/02/19 4:33am

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nayroo2002 said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

When I first saw Prince(r.i.p.) debut "The Sex Of it" live was on a surprise aftershow in 1987 after the MTV Video Awards. It was a hot funky night.

What else happened?

It was my first, surprise, same day, announcement show out of many of Prince's(r.i.p.).We were packed against the stage like sardines. Of course I was up front against the stage. I remember Prince(r.i.p.) jammin "Mother Popcorn" as a soundcheck before the curtains lifted and we was peeking under the curtain watching Prince(r.i.p.) do scissor splits one after another. His energy & the band was non stop from start to finish. Prince(r.i.p) made being a fan exhilarating with one adventure after another. It was like being on a non stop musical rollercoaster.

"That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when eye was doing the Purple Rain tour eye had a lot of people who eye knew eye'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream."prince
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Reply #15 posted 11/03/19 1:56pm

violetcrush

ChocolateBox3121 said:

When I first saw Prince(r.i.p.) debut "The Sex Of it" live was on a surprise aftershow in 1987 after the MTV Video Awards. It was a hot funky night.

He actually first played the song live (its debut) on September 5th, 1987 at Rupert's Nightclub in MN. I've heard the audio of that show, and it sounded great.

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Reply #16 posted 11/03/19 2:02pm

violetcrush

ChocolateBox3121 said:

nayroo2002 said:

What else happened?

It was my first, surprise, same day, announcement show out of many of Prince's(r.i.p.).We were packed against the stage like sardines. Of course I was up front against the stage. I remember Prince(r.i.p.) jammin "Mother Popcorn" as a soundcheck before the curtains lifted and we was peeking under the curtain watching Prince(r.i.p.) do scissor splits one after another. His energy & the band was non stop from start to finish. Prince(r.i.p) made being a fan exhilarating with one adventure after another. It was like being on a non stop musical rollercoaster.

So, you got into the sold out show at the Reseda Country Club?? I would think it would have been mainly an "invite only" and VIP situation as the club capacity was only 1,000.

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Reply #17 posted 11/03/19 2:03pm

violetcrush

sovembol said:

They did an awesome job with the song. Its hard to imagine it covered. It's pretty similar to what Prince did with the demo.

I love Prince's demo. It was a personal song, and his vocals just fit the lyrics so well.

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Reply #18 posted 11/03/19 4:52pm

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violetcrush said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

It was my first, surprise, same day, announcement show out of many of Prince's(r.i.p.).We were packed against the stage like sardines. Of course I was up front against the stage. I remember Prince(r.i.p.) jammin "Mother Popcorn" as a soundcheck before the curtains lifted and we was peeking under the curtain watching Prince(r.i.p.) do scissor splits one after another. His energy & the band was non stop from start to finish. Prince(r.i.p) made being a fan exhilarating with one adventure after another. It was like being on a non stop musical rollercoaster.

So, you got into the sold out show at the Reseda Country Club?? I would think it would have been mainly an "invite only" and VIP situation as the club capacity was only 1,000.

What makes U think I wasn't part of VIP boo boo?

"That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when eye was doing the Purple Rain tour eye had a lot of people who eye knew eye'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream."prince
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Reply #19 posted 11/03/19 5:32pm

violetcrush

ChocolateBox3121 said:



violetcrush said:




ChocolateBox3121 said:



It was my first, surprise, same day, announcement show out of many of Prince's(r.i.p.).We were packed against the stage like sardines. Of course I was up front against the stage. I remember Prince(r.i.p.) jammin "Mother Popcorn" as a soundcheck before the curtains lifted and we was peeking under the curtain watching Prince(r.i.p.) do scissor splits one after another. His energy & the band was non stop from start to finish. Prince(r.i.p) made being a fan exhilarating with one adventure after another. It was like being on a non stop musical rollercoaster.




So, you got into the sold out show at the Reseda Country Club?? I would think it would have been mainly an "invite only" and VIP situation as the club capacity was only 1,000.



What makes U think I wasn't part of VIP boo boo?


Eh, just don’t buy it. I’m gonna go with mainly music industry peeps and celebs attending that event - most likely none of which would now be posting on this site
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Reply #20 posted 11/03/19 6:29pm

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violetcrush said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

What makes U think I wasn't part of VIP boo boo?

Eh, just don’t buy it. I’m gonna go with mainly music industry peeps and celebs attending that event - most likely none of which would now be posting on this site biggrin

Are U now calling me a liar? biggrin

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"That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when eye was doing the Purple Rain tour eye had a lot of people who eye knew eye'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream."prince
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Reply #21 posted 11/03/19 8:39pm

violetcrush

ChocolateBox3121 said:



violetcrush said:


ChocolateBox3121 said:


What makes U think I wasn't part of VIP boo boo?



Eh, just don’t buy it. I’m gonna go with mainly music industry peeps and celebs attending that event - most likely none of which would now be posting on this site biggrin

Are U now calling me a liar? biggrin




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Well, it seems, per your posts, you attended every concert, TV performance, and after party of his career, while partying with all of his associates. So, you can understand where the doubt sets in, right??
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Reply #22 posted 11/04/19 5:05am

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violetcrush said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Are U now calling me a liar? biggrin

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Well, it seems, per your posts, you attended every concert, TV performance, and after party of his career, while partying with all of his associates. So, you can understand where the doubt sets in, right??

U are a piece of work. U just can't handle that someone has had additional personal experiences, besides knowing as much if not more than U do. Poor baby it just irks U so much.

"That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when eye was doing the Purple Rain tour eye had a lot of people who eye knew eye'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream."prince
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Reply #23 posted 11/04/19 5:35am

jaawwnn

August Darnell's run from about 1976 to 1983 or 4 is a pretty underappreciated golden age by a brilliant songwriter, frontman, musician, bandleader etc.

I prefer the earlier version of The Sex Of it though, even the later version with Prince's vocals ain't as good as that. I'm not mad on that turn of the decade, Graffiti Bridge-era production.


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Reply #24 posted 11/04/19 5:36am

violetcrush

ChocolateBox3121 said:



violetcrush said:


ChocolateBox3121 said:


Are U now calling me a liar? biggrin




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Well, it seems, per your posts, you attended every concert, TV performance, and after party of his career, while partying with all of his associates. So, you can understand where the doubt sets in, right??

U are a piece of work. U just can't handle that someone has had additional personal experiences, besides knowing as much if not more than U do. Poor baby it just irks U so much.


No “irking” here at all. I am far from the only person here who questions your “grandstanding” when it comes to Prince, and how you place yourself at every big event of his career. I’m entitled to my doubts. Your stories elude to being some type of “VIP”, and if that really was/is the case then I think it’s unlikely that you would be hanging out on the Org. My opinion and I’m entitled to it biggrin
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Reply #25 posted 11/04/19 7:26am

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violetcrush said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

U are a piece of work. U just can't handle that someone has had additional personal experiences, besides knowing as much if not more than U do. Poor baby it just irks U so much.

No “irking” here at all. I am far from the only person here who questions your “grandstanding” when it comes to Prince, and how you place yourself at every big event of his career. I’m entitled to my doubts. Your stories elude to being some type of “VIP”, and if that really was/is the case then I think it’s unlikely that you would be hanging out on the Org. My opinion and I’m entitled to it biggrin

Oh! Like they discuss your obsession with The Melvoin's?! biggrin

"That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when eye was doing the Purple Rain tour eye had a lot of people who eye knew eye'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream."prince
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Reply #26 posted 11/04/19 9:13am

violetcrush

ChocolateBox3121 said:



violetcrush said:


ChocolateBox3121 said:


U are a piece of work. U just can't handle that someone has had additional personal experiences, besides knowing as much if not more than U do. Poor baby it just irks U so much.



No “irking” here at all. I am far from the only person here who questions your “grandstanding” when it comes to Prince, and how you place yourself at every big event of his career. I’m entitled to my doubts. Your stories elude to being some type of “VIP”, and if that really was/is the case then I think it’s unlikely that you would be hanging out on the Org. My opinion and I’m entitled to it biggrin

Oh! Like they discuss your obsession with The Melvoin's?! biggrin


I have discussions and posts about many who were involved with Prince during his career. Take a look at my post history. However, your posts have become quite predictable whenever there is a thread or post about a performance or concert. Sometimes it can be anything - like this thread about a song - that you turn into a grandiose tale about how you were “there” to witness it - usually mingling with all of his associates lol
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Reply #27 posted 11/04/19 1:12pm

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I always thought it funny that on the album, The Sex Of It followed No More Casual Sex.

Anyhow, the double concert DVD from 1982 is excellent, so much energy. Plus I agree with the above comment that Prince probably used the Kid Creole influence in styling The Time.

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Reply #28 posted 11/04/19 2:20pm

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Reply #29 posted 11/04/19 3:58pm

violetcrush

andymacfunky said:

I always thought it funny that on the album, The Sex Of It followed No More Casual Sex.


Anyhow, the double concert DVD from 1982 is excellent, so much energy. Plus I agree with the above comment that Prince probably used the Kid Creole influence in styling The Time.





Kid Creole and The Coconuts - Live At Rockpalast 1982 [2015]















The song The Sex of It definitely seems to have been done in the Kid Creole style, but August Darnell (aka Kid Creole) didn't form the band until 1980, when Prince was already forming The Time. I guess it’s possible that Prince saw them perform and copied that style for The Time. I always thought The Time’s style was the 20’s Gangster look - Stacy Adams shoes and bold print suits with coiffed hair. They were like “funk gangsters” smile
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