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Reply #240 posted 11/04/19 6:11am

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TheTruth123 said:


I think it’s great that Prince kept all this stuff. Shows he cared about himself and knew who he was.


A lot of times keeping stuff can mean, you want to see what you were like when you were younger, how much you changed, stayed the same. Or a reminder of what the times were like.


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It is interesting looking at things I have still from my pre teen/teen years. I have a drawing-journal of things. I draw his symbol back in the 90s when he announced it. I designed my own.


I think he was sentimental and nostalgic about his life even though he claimed mot to be. The whole “what’s in the past is past and I never look back” spiel was a facade. He looked back in his music and by keeping all of his mementos. I’m sure it was also to gauge where he was at certain times and how he’d changed. In that way like most people - holding on to memories and items to mark periods in time.
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Reply #241 posted 11/04/19 6:16am

TheTruth123

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TheTruth123 said:


I think it’s great that Prince kept all this stuff. Shows he cared about himself and knew who he was.


A lot of times keeping stuff can mean, you want to see what you were like when you were younger, how much you changed, stayed the same. Or a reminder of what the times were like.


.
It is interesting looking at things I have still from my pre teen/teen years. I have a drawing-journal of things. I draw his symbol back in the 90s when he announced it. I designed my own.



I just kept my things because they are a part of who I am. They mean a lot to me. As do the people who’ve been in my life during this whole journey. You always want to remember who you were as a little kid. No matter what life throws at you, don’t lose that. And no one can take it from you. I don’t care what they do to you.
Even if we don’t have physical tangible things anymore to remind us, no one can ever take from you who you are.
God created you because He loves you. Thank him each day for your life.
[Edited 11/5/19 10:35am]
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Reply #242 posted 11/04/19 6:18am

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Two questions:


1. Why do you think all the pictures of Owen Husney are missing from Prince's 1977 photo book?



2. Do You think it was the Sometimes it snows in April we know today, that was already supposed to be on For You (as mentioned on p. 267)? Or maybe it was only a line Prince was fond of that evolved into a whole different song in 1985? (See the two unrelated songs called "The Max", and I'm sure there are other incidents like this in Prince's catalogue, but can't name them right now.) Are there any interviews by Wendy & Lisa about the creation of the 1985 version they supposedly co-authored?


He had a falling out with Husney (he went after Prince for more money after he was fired) and they never reconciled. During his 1999 interview with Larry King, when he was talking about his Manager taking him out to LA to record his first album, he said “his name escapes me”. So, he would not even speak his name in ‘99.
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It has been stated in Biographies, and recently by Susannah in her Toure interview, that Wendy, Lisa and Prince recoded SISIA in the studio together in one take. Prince may have had the title lyric written earlier that he thought of or picked up from somewhere, but the rest of the lyrics are tied to UTCM, which we know he created on the spot in Summer of ‘85.
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Reply #243 posted 11/04/19 6:18am

TheTruth123

I was thinking this morning about why it is that so many of us felt a huge loss when Prince passed, even though we did not follow him in recent years. I think there are several reasons, but a big one is that he never blamed anyone.
Yes, during his life he had relationship problems as we all do, but in essence, he never blamed anyone for the state of his life today. That is a remarkable quality, and I think deep in our hearts most of us want that and admire it.
[Edited 11/4/19 6:19am]
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Reply #244 posted 11/04/19 6:21am

violetcrush

TheTruth123 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:



TheTruth123 said:


I think it’s great that Prince kept all this stuff. Shows he cared about himself and knew who he was.


A lot of times keeping stuff can mean, you want to see what you were like when you were younger, how much you changed, stayed the same. Or a reminder of what the times were like.


.
It is interesting looking at things I have still from my pre teen/teen years. I have a drawing-journal of things. I draw his symbol back in the 90s when he announced it. I designed my own.



I just kept my things because they are a part of who I am. They mean a lot to me. As do the people who’ve been in my life during this whole journey. You always want to remember who you were as a little kid. No matter what life throws at you, don’t lose that. And no one can take it from you. I don’t care what they do to you.
Even if we don’t have physical tangible things anymore to remind us, no one can ever take from you who you are.
God created you out of his love for you. Thank him each day for your life.

Yes, and I think Prince was no different. He just kept that from the public. Although, songs like Reflection show that side of him. I think he was much more sentimental than he would ever admit.
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Reply #245 posted 11/04/19 6:21am

TheTruth123

violetcrush said:

OldFriends4Sale said:



TheTruth123 said:


I think it’s great that Prince kept all this stuff. Shows he cared about himself and knew who he was.


A lot of times keeping stuff can mean, you want to see what you were like when you were younger, how much you changed, stayed the same. Or a reminder of what the times were like.


.
It is interesting looking at things I have still from my pre teen/teen years. I have a drawing-journal of things. I draw his symbol back in the 90s when he announced it. I designed my own.


I think he was sentimental and nostalgic about his life even though he claimed mot to be. The whole “what’s in the past is past and I never look back” spiel was a facade. He looked back in his music and by keeping all of his mementos. I’m sure it was also to gauge where he was at certain times and how he’d changed. In that way like most people - holding on to memories and items to mark periods in time.

[Edited 11/5/19 10:37am]
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Reply #246 posted 11/04/19 6:22am

TheTruth123

Prince was writing this memoir to help us. One lesson he was trying to give us was to “Respect Yourself”.
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Reply #247 posted 11/04/19 6:23am

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I just watched Mi-Ling’s review of the book. She points out how at the end of the handwritten lyrics for ‘Little Red Corvette’, Prince wrote, ‘Mayday’, which apparently was his (and others’) nickname for her at the time.

Edited to delete youtube link
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Reply #248 posted 11/04/19 6:59am

80tomato

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80tomato said:

Found this on the internet as being part of the original Purple Rain script


Provide an actual source - sounds like (really terrible) fan fiction. Man, this thread's gone downhill fast.

[Edited 11/4/19 6:05am]

H Poppy...I agree it reads like fan fiction ...It is from a post on LSA from May 2016 ....I checked back to see if there was a source cited but there was none .I did feel it was significant because it mentions the stroking of his cheek and the earrng scenario which he mentions in his book published 3 years later

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Reply #249 posted 11/04/19 7:14am

poppys

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poppys said:


Provide an actual source - sounds like (really terrible) fan fiction. Man, this thread's gone downhill fast.


H Poppy...I agree it reads like fan fiction ...It is from a post on LSA from May 2016 ....I checked back to see if there was a source cited but there was none .I did feel it was significant because it mentions the stroking of his cheek and the earrng scenario which he mentions in his book published 3 years later


It's fan fiction. You can tell by the writing. Prince didn't write that for Purple Rain, lmao That's also why you have no source except Lipstick Alley.

It is not significant to anything except someone took something Prince wrote and riffed off of it. Nothing to do with The Beautiful Ones book either.

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Reply #250 posted 11/04/19 8:36am

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TheTruth123 said:

I was thinking this morning about why it is that so many of us felt a huge loss when Prince passed, even though we did not follow him in recent years. I think there are several reasons, but a big one is that he never blamed anyone.
Yes, during his life he had relationship problems as we all do, but in essence, he never blamed anyone for the state of his life today. That is a remarkable quality, and I think deep in our hearts most of us want that and admire it.
[Edited 11/4/19 6:19am]

For me the enormous loss was because his music was always in my life, at every moment. No matter the decade, there was always a Prince song I knew and
loved and could identify with at a particular time or event in my life. By this I don’t necessarily mean identity with the lyrics, per se. I mean that I could always associate a Prince song to whatever moment in my life when that particular song came out. Losing Prince meant having to say goodbye to something so familiar, so always welcome. Of course as a massive fan I also admired him and losing such a talent left a void that I still feel so sad about. I am glad to have all the music, though, and grateful to him for leaving this to us.
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Reply #251 posted 11/04/19 9:09am

violetcrush

TheTruth123 said:

violetcrush said:


I think he was sentimental and nostalgic about his life even though he claimed mot to be. The whole “what’s in the past is past and I never look back” spiel was a facade. He looked back in his music and by keeping all of his mementos. I’m sure it was also to gauge where he was at certain times and how he’d changed. In that way like most people - holding on to memories and items to mark periods in time.


I don’t know that he gave it that much thought. You can be in the present moment and also acknowledge the past without stewing in it.

His songs often “stewed” in the past though, especially those about his relationships with women. He also had the plan for PP to become a “museum” of his life and work before he passed. He was planning all of that.
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Reply #252 posted 11/04/19 9:15am

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TheTruth123 said:

Prince was writing this memoir to help us. One lesson he was trying to give us was to “Respect Yourself”.

And create your life. There is a quote that i love, I'll repost it

#IDEFINEME #ALBUMSSTILLMATTER

A Liar Shall Not Tarry In My Presence
I will make you cyber shit in your pants!
What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
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Reply #253 posted 11/04/19 9:18am

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TheTruth123 said:

I was thinking this morning about why it is that so many of us felt a huge loss when Prince passed, even though we did not follow him in recent years. I think there are several reasons, but a big one is that he never blamed anyone. Yes, during his life he had relationship problems as we all do, but in essence, he never blamed anyone for the state of his life today. That is a remarkable quality, and I think deep in our hearts most of us want that and admire it. [Edited 11/4/19 6:19am]

I followed him right up to the end.

But he did blame WB for some hefty things of his career.
He did put some 'blame' in the wrong places here in there, why certain movies flopped and some other things.

#IDEFINEME #ALBUMSSTILLMATTER

A Liar Shall Not Tarry In My Presence
I will make you cyber shit in your pants!
What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In
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Reply #254 posted 11/04/19 9:19am

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violetcrush said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

A lot of times keeping stuff can mean, you want to see what you were like when you were younger, how much you changed, stayed the same. Or a reminder of what the times were like.

.
It is interesting looking at things I have still from my pre teen/teen years. I have a drawing-journal of things. I draw his symbol back in the 90s when he announced it. I designed my own.

I think he was sentimental and nostalgic about his life even though he claimed mot to be. The whole “what’s in the past is past and I never look back” spiel was a facade. He looked back in his music and by keeping all of his mementos. I’m sure it was also to gauge where he was at certain times and how he’d changed. In that way like most people - holding on to memories and items to mark periods in time.

Yes

Even when it comes down the 'the Vault' music.
Even if he never listened to the majority of it, he sure did keep it.

And if he didn't want anyone to hear it, he would have destroyed it.

#IDEFINEME #ALBUMSSTILLMATTER

A Liar Shall Not Tarry In My Presence
I will make you cyber shit in your pants!
What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In
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Reply #255 posted 11/04/19 11:21am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

Yes

Even when it comes down the 'the Vault' music.
Even if he never listened to the majority of it, he sure did keep it.

And if he didn't want anyone to hear it, he would have destroyed it.

This is what I say to anyone who says he didn't want anyone to hear the vault stuff. It's so damn obvious though, I'm not sure why anyone who's been around should have to be told this. He even said in an interview that he wouldn't release it but somebody would....that says to me it was his plan for it to play out that way.

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #256 posted 11/04/19 11:25am

RJP1205

Mumio said:



OldFriends4Sale said:



Yes


Even when it comes down the 'the Vault' music.
Even if he never listened to the majority of it, he sure did keep it.


And if he didn't want anyone to hear it, he would have destroyed it.





This is what I say to anyone who says he didn't want anyone to hear the vault stuff. It's so damn obvious though, I'm not sure why anyone who's been around should have to be told this. He even said in an interview that he wouldn't release it but somebody would....that says to me it was his plan for it to play out that way.


yeahthat
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Reply #257 posted 11/04/19 11:31am

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Mumio said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Yes

Even when it comes down the 'the Vault' music.
Even if he never listened to the majority of it, he sure did keep it.

And if he didn't want anyone to hear it, he would have destroyed it.

This is what I say to anyone who says he didn't want anyone to hear the vault stuff. It's so damn obvious though, I'm not sure why anyone who's been around should have to be told this. He even said in an interview that he wouldn't release it but somebody would....that says to me it was his plan for it to play out that way.


Yep. And let's not forget this quote:


"Are there full unreleased albums?

Yeah, I like time capsule stuff. I have a couple Revolution albums in the vault and two Time albums, one Vanity 6 album … and tons of stuff recorded in different periods. But so much gets recorded that you don’t have time to compile everything. In the future you could put all the best stuff from one particular time period together and then you can release it. It’d just be like if we found a Sly and the Family Stone album and they saved their best stuff. If that’s even possible!"

Not only did he want it heard, he left an instruction on how he would like it released.


https://www.rollingstone....ne-227347/

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Reply #258 posted 11/04/19 11:41am

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SchlomoThaHomo said:

Mumio said:

This is what I say to anyone who says he didn't want anyone to hear the vault stuff. It's so damn obvious though, I'm not sure why anyone who's been around should have to be told this. He even said in an interview that he wouldn't release it but somebody would....that says to me it was his plan for it to play out that way.


Yep. And let's not forget this quote:


"Are there full unreleased albums?

Yeah, I like time capsule stuff. I have a couple Revolution albums in the vault and two Time albums, one Vanity 6 album … and tons of stuff recorded in different periods. But so much gets recorded that you don’t have time to compile everything. In the future you could put all the best stuff from one particular time period together and then you can release it. It’d just be like if we found a Sly and the Family Stone album and they saved their best stuff. If that’s even possible!"

Not only did he want it heard, he left an instruction on how he would like it released.


https://www.rollingstone....ne-227347/

Thanks so much for that! I'd seen it before but could not remember where it was....now I can add that too hug

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #259 posted 11/04/19 11:59am

poppys

Are there people who don't think what's in the vault should be released since he passed? Before he died was a different situation. It was his material to do what he wanted with when he was alive.

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Reply #260 posted 11/04/19 2:23pm

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I went to the book release party at Paisley Park Friday. They had tables set up in the soundstage. Andrea Swensson from the Current interviewed Dan on the stage. She covered various topics throughout the book. It lasted about a 1/2 hour. After that was the dance party. Some people hung out in the soundstage and others in the L4OA/NPGMC room to dance. They gave us different colored wrist bands when we first got there. Throughout the rest of the night they called the different groups to go to Studio B control room, where we were met by Bobby Z. They played 2 tracks from the forthcoming 1999 release and Bobby gaved us a short talk about each song before they played it. Our group heard Do Me, Baby live and Possessed. All the groups took a photo with Bobby. Tyka and Sharon were there.

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Reply #261 posted 11/04/19 3:04pm

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darkroman said:

WOW, that early configuration of ''For You'' looks amazing - considering half of the songs on there are not even listed on Prince Vault!

Prince Vault are going to be very busy making updates!!!!

Side One:
For You
Bodyfreeze
Never Really Fell Out Of Love With You
You Are Everything To Me
I Spend My Time Loving You

Side Two:
Soft And Wet
Baby
Let Me Touch You
Love In The Morning
Send In The Clowns


cool



[Edited 10/29/19 2:35am]

[Edited 10/29/19 2:39am]




I'd love to hear this version
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Reply #262 posted 11/04/19 3:11pm

violetcrush

daingermouz2020 said:

darkroman said:

WOW, that early configuration of ''For You'' looks amazing - considering half of the songs on there are not even listed on Prince Vault!

Prince Vault are going to be very busy making updates!!!!

Side One:
For You
Bodyfreeze
Never Really Fell Out Of Love With You
You Are Everything To Me
I Spend My Time Loving You

Side Two:
Soft And Wet
Baby
Let Me Touch You
Love In The Morning
Send In The Clowns


cool



[Edited 10/29/19 2:35am]

[Edited 10/29/19 2:39am]




I'd love to hear this version

I think it’s so cool that he wanted to do a cover of Judy Collins’s version of Send In The Clowns. Such a beautiful song, and mature for Prince’s age at that time. It really shows the diversity of his interest in music.
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Reply #263 posted 11/04/19 3:15pm

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I went to the book release party at Paisley Park Friday. They had tables set up in the soundstage. Andrea Swensson from the Current interviewed Dan on the stage. She covered various topics throughout the book. It lasted about a 1/2 hour. After that was the dance party. Some people hung out in the soundstage and others in the L4OA/NPGMC room to dance. They gave us different colored wrist bands when we first got there. Throughout the rest of the night they called the different groups to go to Studio B control room, where we were met by Bobby Z. They played 2 tracks from the forthcoming 1999 release and Bobby gaved us a short talk about each song before they played it. Our group heard Do Me, Baby live and Possessed. All the groups took a photo with Bobby. Tyka and Sharon were there.


☝️
Wow what a good time. Man u r fortunate to live by PP. Good 4 u! 👍🎶
"A strong spirit transcends rules." - Prince
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Reply #264 posted 11/04/19 3:21pm

violetcrush

motherfunka said:

I went to the book release party at Paisley Park Friday. They had tables set up in the soundstage. Andrea Swensson from the Current interviewed Dan on the stage. She covered various topics throughout the book. It lasted about a 1/2 hour. After that was the dance party. Some people hung out in the soundstage and others in the L4OA/NPGMC room to dance. They gave us different colored wrist bands when we first got there. Throughout the rest of the night they called the different groups to go to Studio B control room, where we were met by Bobby Z. They played 2 tracks from the forthcoming 1999 release and Bobby gaved us a short talk about each song before they played it. Our group heard Do Me, Baby live and Possessed. All the groups took a photo with Bobby. Tyka and Sharon were there.


I think Prince would have loved how that was done. How great that you got to spend time with Bobby Z in Studio B!
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Reply #265 posted 11/04/19 4:52pm

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TheTruth123 said:

I have always noticed that prince had very strong forearms and wide wrists for his size. Did anybody notice that his mother also has larger wrists? This is noticeable in the photo of her standing by his crib. Yes, I notice details! smile

I have been thinking about your post for several days. I have also noticed how thick his wrists were. Do you think it was not only hereditary but caused by hours of playing various musical instruments? That requires a lot of physical strength.
I noticed this trait once in a guy who was a great gymnast specifically on the parallel bars and the horse. I wondered if he worked out a lot beyond the dancing in his concerts since he looked so fit.
Could be many reasons. I'm glad I'm not the only person who studies these pictures!
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Reply #266 posted 11/04/19 4:58pm

PeggyO

I need some clarification please, re: Prince's High School?

Does anyone know when Prince transferred to the Southside High School? Ninth grade?

It was likely so that he could live with his Aunt Olivia?

-Did he stay and graduate from that school?

I thought Kim Upsher was a big crush; was she a Northside student?

Trying to get a more accurate sense of his whereabouts during that time.

Thanks for any help!

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Reply #267 posted 11/04/19 5:03pm

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motherfunka said:

I went to the book release party at Paisley Park Friday. They had tables set up in the soundstage. Andrea Swensson from the Current interviewed Dan on the stage. She covered various topics throughout the book. It lasted about a 1/2 hour. After that was the dance party. Some people hung out in the soundstage and others in the L4OA/NPGMC room to dance. They gave us different colored wrist bands when we first got there.

Throughout the rest of the night they called the different groups to go to Studio B control room, where we were met by Bobby Z. They played 2 tracks from the forthcoming 1999 release and Bobby gaved us a short talk about each song before they played it. Our group heard Do Me, Baby live and Possessed. All the groups took a photo with Bobby. Tyka and Sharon were there.


Many thanks for posting about the book release party. Breath of fresh air!

[Edited 11/5/19 7:02am]

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Reply #268 posted 11/04/19 8:06pm

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motherfunka said:

I went to the book release party at Paisley Park Friday. They had tables set up in the soundstage. Andrea Swensson from the Current interviewed Dan on the stage. She covered various topics throughout the book. It lasted about a 1/2 hour. After that was the dance party. Some people hung out in the soundstage and others in the L4OA/NPGMC room to dance. They gave us different colored wrist bands when we first got there. Throughout the rest of the night they called the different groups to go to Studio B control room, where we were met by Bobby Z. They played 2 tracks from the forthcoming 1999 release and Bobby gaved us a short talk about each song before they played it. Our group heard Do Me, Baby live and Possessed. All the groups took a photo with Bobby. Tyka and Sharon were there.



Awesome you were able to attend a once in a lifetime experience.
What did Bobby tell you about each song?

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Reply #269 posted 11/04/19 11:26pm

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TheTruth123 said:

I was thinking this morning about why it is that so many of us felt a huge loss when Prince passed, even though we did not follow him in recent years. I think there are several reasons, but a big one is that he never blamed anyone.
Yes, during his life he had relationship problems as we all do, but in essence, he never blamed anyone for the state of his life today. That is a remarkable quality, and I think deep in our hearts most of us want that and admire it.
[Edited 11/4/19 6:19am]
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