I'm not a fan of Katy Perry at all, but Ed is a talented singer/songwriter. I think Prince was alluding ot radio and how it's forced down our throats by playing the same damn song 15 times a day.

rdhull said:

Prince was such a hater

If that was the case, surely it would have been Taylor Swift he would have named and shamed?

I'm with you. Firework is a classic pop tune as is most of Teenage Dream. I even liked recently Double Rainbow and Chained to the Rhythm. Sure's she's gotten a little stale now and I'm not a fan of her reality show hijinx but her music is solid pop. Sheeran bores me with the looping stuff, but he's surely a talented guy. There's far worse than Perry and Sheeran out there.

purplepolitician said:

I seem to be the opposite of everyone else but I find Katy n her tunes to be delightful most of the time 😀. Thinking Out Loud is a nice tune but that Shape of You is God awful 🙏. Only 2 songs I know by him. Y'all just twisting Ps words and shit. He wasn't no hater 😂.

endiadj said:

jfenster said:

could it be that he wasnt neccessarily dumping on perry or sheeran but just the fact that we r being force fed music

This is what he was implying, but some just like to twist words and start unnecessary drama.

thanx..someone with some sense

He's wrong about Ed Sheeran. He's a one man band, writes he own music and is 4 albums into a solid career. He's even built his own estate with a recoring studio. Sound Familiar?

I accept people might not like his style of music, but Prince dissing his success (he's just broken the world tour sales record), reminds me of when he was down on rap.

Does Katy Perry stil even have a music career??

SquirrelMeat said:

He's wrong about Ed Sheeran. He's a one man band, writes he own music and is 4 albums into a solid career. He's even built his own estate with a recoring studio. Sound Familiar?

I accept people might not like his style of music, but Prince dissing his success (he's just broken the world tour sales record), reminds me of when he was down on rap.

I was gonna say that while I don't enjoy his music as a whole, the guy is talented and a one-man band. Very few artists can stand there with just a guitar and a video screen, and fill Wembley or Prince Albert Hall.

Katy - another story.

MotownSubdivision said:

Prince was right. Simple as that.

Beautifully said!

Genesia said:

He wasn't wrong. Though, to be perfectly honest, until I saw the movie Yesterday, I had never even heard of Ed Sheeran.

There are benefits to being hopelessly "non-current."

Me too!

LoveGalore said:

NouveauDance said:

Not that I care for either of the mentioned artists, but I'm sure someone was saying the same about Prince in 1984.

The difference being that the Katy/Ed phenomenon occurs every single album. The same can't be said for Prince.

This is a pretty perceptive comment imho.

Anyone who praises Ed for his business smarts or says "it's just pop music" is fairly missing the point of music as far as i'm concerned.

Ed is going to be fine, he's set for life, it won't hurt him if you call out his bland music for what it is. If he actually believes in it that makes it worse, at least if he was wholly cynical it'd be a fairly funny trick he's pulled on everyone.

SquirrelMeat said:

MotownSubdivision said:

SquirrelMeat said:

He's wrong about Ed Sheeran. He's a one man band, writes he own music and is 4 albums into a solid career. He's even built his own estate with a recoring studio. Sound Familiar?

I accept people might not like his style of music, but Prince dissing his success (he's just broken the world tour sales record), reminds me of when he was down on rap.

Prince was right about the industry overexposing and constantly forcing the same handful of acts on the general public. Yeah, we have more outlets for music listening than before but his point still stands about radio and how the mainstream music scene operates. I'm not an Ed Sheeran fan at all. He may be talented but his music is bland, insipid and unmoving. I look at him as a modern day Phil Collins but with none of the edge, fun or catchiness or really, any of the good qualities that Phil as an artist possessed. Katy Perry is to music what fast food is to gastronomy. She's made some catchy songs herself, songs far more vibrant than almost aything Ed has ever put out but she's still a processed pre-packaged LCD name that's received more attention than she is worth.

Yeah, it's called the music business. Which he played a part in. Not everyone in it can be a gifted genius.

rdhull said:

MotownSubdivision said:

SquirrelMeat said: Prince was right about the industry overexposing and constantly forcing the same handful of acts on the general public. Yeah, we have more outlets for music listening than before but his point still stands about radio and how the mainstream music scene operates. I'm not an Ed Sheeran fan at all. He may be talented but his music is bland, insipid and unmoving. I look at him as a modern day Phil Collins but with none of the edge, fun or catchiness or really, any of the good qualities that Phil as an artist possessed. Katy Perry is to music what fast food is to gastronomy. She's made some catchy songs herself, songs far more vibrant than almost aything Ed has ever put out but she's still a processed pre-packaged LCD name that's received more attention than she is worth.

Yeah, it's called the music business. Which he played a part in. Not everyone in it can be a gifted genius.

The fact that Ed wrote "Perfect" is enough for me to give him some kudos.

PeggyO said:

rdhull said:

Yeah, it's called the music business. Which he played a part in. Not everyone in it can be a gifted genius.

The fact that Ed wrote "Perfect" is enough for me to give him some kudos.

Prince and damn near everyone in the business wants the popularity Sheeran has. If they deny it, they're lying. And lest we forget, not every single Prince put out was a life affirming philosophical uplifting piece of magic. Not everyone can be Dylan. I'm sorry but his later diatribes about music and those who make it reeked of jeaolusy or at best, old man yelling at kids to get off his lawn steeze.

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rdhull said:

Yeah, it's called the music business. Which he played a part in. Not everyone in it can be a gifted genius.

And wasn't it Prince who always blamed WB for not promoting his albums enough, and that their failure to render constant #1 status or a #1 hit was their fault, not his (because he was a gifted genius and somehow that should just magically equal 10M sales per record)?

Wasn't it Prince who said, post-WB, that he loved record companies, and that they did their job "and it shows?"

Wasn't it Prince who said sometimes he just wants to call up the folks at Warner and say "thank you, man?"

Wasn't it Prince who negotiated another WB contract in 2014 to release a couple of albums, which in turn also gave him his catalog owership back, and also setup the aborted Purple Rain Deluxe release as well?

Wasn't it Prince who made deals with Arista, Sony, etc for distribution of his albums because he knew that they could get his record out more than he could on his often-faltering 1800newFunk or NPGMC sites?

I mean, for Prince to balk at record companies doing their jobs is sort of hypocritical. Was he upset no one was humming "This Could B Us" or "The Gold Standard" but were loving "The Shape of You" or "Swish Swish?" It feels like he felt entitled to more than he was getting as far as promotion or sales.

Prince had the fame but threw it away.

What Prince really wanted was the ability to say "this is the new trend" and have everybody fall all over themselves. He was really hurt by his inability to get play from the corporate owned radio stations.

You can tell the same from one of his last interview. He was frustrated that everybody wanted to talk about the past when he wanted people to focus on Stare. He thought that was a stone cold classic and the lack of discussion was discouraging.

Strive said:

Prince had the fame but threw it away.

What Prince really wanted was the ability to say "this is the new trend" and have everybody fall all over themselves. He was really hurt by his inability to get play from the corporate owned radio stations.

You can tell the same from one of his last interview. He was frustrated that everybody wanted to talk about the past when he wanted people to focus on Stare. He thought that was a stone cold classic and the lack of discussion was discouraging.

I guess one needs to know when to surrender to new trends/artists graciously.

3000 users on DailyMail say Prince is music industry judge, jury and executioner versus 17 comments here sayin Prince a hater. It's just the way it is.

And he was definetly trashing both their music specifically:

WE. DON'T. LIKE. IT.

He didn't dislike Perry's Firework.

rdhull said:

TrivialPursuit said:

News to all, pretty much anyone on the radio in those later years PRINCE didnt like their music or how radio worked etc...so you make think its Katy and Ed but Prince mentioned a lot more, Lady Ga Ga being one, "Different strokes" is where he used that comment. He also used his "real music, real musicians" on a lot of the artists and music out there, JT and even Beyonce who you think he loved and he did, but he told her she needed to learn to play. So Prince was old school and the people he liked were from that Old soul approach to music, I mean most of them NEVER would get radio play.

I don't know too much about Ed Sheeran.Not sure if I ever heard one of his songs.

Not really a fan of Katy Perry,but I find her far less annoying and less overexposed than another big,overhyped female artist that Prince actually shared a stage with

The sad thing is that this was just seems to have been a private note he wrote to himself, probably in a moment of frustration because there are times when you can't get away from whoever the popstar of the day is. They could have been anyone.


I don't think i've ever heard an Ed Sheeran song I've liked, that song the A-Team is alright I guess, but he doesn't bother me except when he pops up unexpectedly.


and Katy Perry is just fluff, she was a bit of a laugh on her first album and she has the occasional track I like but who cares, even her Woky Perry stuff is feather light.

[Edited 11/1/19 3:31am]

I love me some Katy Perry, some of her songs were solid pop gold! As far as Sheeran goes, I liked his A-Team song a lot, but that is about it...

[Edited 11/1/19 8:50am]