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Reply #90 posted 09/17/19 2:36am

jaawwnn

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In its first day or two MTV played The Specials (black and white members) and The Selecter (black and white members with a black female lead singer). I believe Musical Youth were the first all black band played on MTV, can't say for sure.

Not saying MTV wasn't racist since it clearly was, and none of the above artists were African American.


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Reply #91 posted 09/17/19 4:55am

violetcrush

ChocolateBox3121 said:



violetcrush said:


ChocolateBox3121 said:





Prince's(r.i.p.) 1999 video premiered on MTV in December 1982.




MJ's FIRST music video off Thriller, Billie Jean premiered on MTV march 1983.







GROW UP!!! mad Regardless, MJ was the first to hit constant rotation with the Billy Jean video, which is why he is thought to have had the first video aired. Then he exploded with Thriller December of ‘83. * Prince did not move into constant rotation on MTV until they started playing both LRC and 1999 regularly in Spring of ‘83.

Doesn't matter! Prince(r.i.p.) was THE FIRST MALE BLACK ARTIST on MTV! Which is really groundbreaking in itself & he should be recognized for it.



Own up to U being wrong about that & the 1999 album.



"He had a new album quickly climbing the charts on both R&B and Top 40 radio," rolleyes



To your credit it did eventually quickly climb up the charts early that next year. But not right away. The 1999 album didn't look to good for Prince(r.i.p.) at first. But I was there along the way right up until his pop stardom & beyond.


AGAIN, YOU were not the only one there to witness his rise to the top in ‘84. MANY of the folks here remember that time.
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From its inception in 1981 until early 1983 MTV was NOT putting any black artists in their prime time slots, nor were they in heavy rotation. David Bowie famously publicly shamed MTV for not playing black artists during an interview with one of the VJs back in ‘82-‘83.
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1983 was a HUGE year for Michael Jackson (Moonwalk anyone??) and that was his explosion to superstardom and full crossover. Prince answered back to that in Summer of ‘84.
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Reply #92 posted 09/17/19 5:01am

violetcrush

jaawwnn said:

In its first day or two MTV played The Specials (black and white members) and The Selecter (black and white members with a black female lead singer). I believe Musical Youth were the first all black band played on MTV, can't say for sure.

Not saying MTV wasn't racist since it clearly was, and none of the above artists were African American.


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Right, MTV was clearly not playing black artists for the first couple of years, and if they did, the videos were not in the prime time viewing slots. David Bowie helped to bring attention to it when he publicly shamed MTV during an interview with a VJ. He really caught the guy off guard, and it got a lot of media attention.
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Reply #93 posted 09/17/19 5:28am

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Yes! I remember watching that famous David Bowie interview. Then MJ with his groundbreaking videos and Prince(r.i.p.) with his raw undeniable talent pushed that door open to MTV.

"eye feel like we're on the brink of something. It's going 2 B strict & wild & pretty" prince
This nomination is not just 4 me; it’s 4 prince & 4 the fans.prince truly did whatever prince needed 2 do 2 make the fans happy.prince gave his life 4 his fans. Ms E
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Reply #94 posted 09/17/19 9:25am

Rev

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jaawwnn said:

In its first day or two MTV played The Specials (black and white members) and The Selecter (black and white members with a black female lead singer). I believe Musical Youth were the first all black band played on MTV, can't say for sure.

Not saying MTV wasn't racist since it clearly was, and none of the above artists were African American.


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1982

Eddie Murphy's Movie 48 hours was HUGE and they played the Bus Boys song "Boys are back in town".

I remember seeing these guys too.

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Reply #95 posted 09/17/19 9:48am

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leadline said:

Looks like the same "Mr. PHD is reverb" (guy who did Originals) is the guy who worked the audio on this concert, because it is literally drowning in reverb. Why this dude feels it necessary to muddy up Prince's vocals with this is beyond me, it is not a small amount, it is a large amount. Let's hope most of the unreleased stuff on 1999 Super Deluxe was not mastered by this guy.


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Reply #96 posted 09/18/19 6:27am

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leadline said:

Looks like the same "Mr. PHD is reverb" (guy who did Originals) is the guy who worked the audio on this concert, because it is literally drowning in reverb. Why this dude feels it necessary to muddy up Prince's vocals with this is beyond me, it is not a small amount, it is a large amount. Let's hope most of the unreleased stuff on 1999 Super Deluxe was not mastered by this guy.

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Are you talking about the video or about the audio from a different cocnert that was also released? Because the audio-only concert included in the set was mixed by David Z.

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Reply #97 posted 09/18/19 7:08am

Holmes

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Reply #98 posted 09/18/19 8:47am

udo

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Holmes said:

Whoever it was that mixed the audio on this live video put a ridiculous level of long reverb. And it's not just a bit too much, but wildly inappropriate levels that ruin otherwise good music. I hope that the unreleased mixes on the 1999 set aren't ruined with reverb as well, as they were on Originals. Anybody listening?

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This caretaker guy, Michael I believe, mentioned he as a phd in reverb...

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #99 posted 09/18/19 9:51am

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1999 live at Masonic Hall popped up on my Apple Music.
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Reply #100 posted 09/18/19 10:04am

AvocadosMax

Holmes said:

Whoever it was that mixed the audio on this live video put a ridiculous level of long reverb. And it's not just a bit too much, but wildly inappropriate levels that ruin otherwise good music. I hope that the unreleased mixes on the 1999 set aren't ruined with reverb as well, as they were on Originals. Anybody listening?


The audio in the video was probably not much to work with to begin with. The good pristine live audio is the Detroit show. They probably, just to be fair, included the best live video that they could find and the best live audio.
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Reply #101 posted 09/18/19 9:44pm

udo

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AvocadosMax said:

The audio in the video was probably not much to work with to begin with.

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If so then Michael should clearly say so.

If it was a degraded 2-track mix with multiple issues then say so.

And do not throw it onto the market without this disclosure.

And if that was the situation, then what to think of all the similar tapes waiting to be shown to us?

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #102 posted 09/18/19 10:21pm

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Dr. Reverb strikes again, eh?

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Reply #103 posted 09/18/19 11:12pm

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udo said:

Holmes said:

Whoever it was that mixed the audio on this live video put a ridiculous level of long reverb. And it's not just a bit too much, but wildly inappropriate levels that ruin otherwise good music. I hope that the unreleased mixes on the 1999 set aren't ruined with reverb as well, as they were on Originals. Anybody listening?

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This caretaker guy, Michael I believe, mentioned he as a phd in reverb...

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That was the mixing engineer, Niko Bolas, in the Peach and Black interview.

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Reply #104 posted 09/18/19 11:34pm

udo

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olb99 said:

udo said:

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This caretaker guy, Michael I believe, mentioned he as a phd in reverb...

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That was the mixing engineer, Niko Bolas, in the Peach and Black interview.

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Ah, of course,..... thanks and redface

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #105 posted 09/24/19 7:46am

andrewm7

[color=blue] the picture and sound quality from the Houston show 1999 is waaay better than I expected biggrin I reckon it would have taken a lot of work to get it as good this. This is especially true if you look at the available house bootlegs from Springsteen and Parliament from the Summit that were contemporaneous. This wildly exceeds my expectations eek
Also is a fine document of how much Jill Jones and Des added to the 1999 show![\color]
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Reply #106 posted 09/24/19 8:00am

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I bet you guys would bitch n moan about a blowjob. Or at least analyze it as you’re getting one. Which is hard to even believe anyone would even blow you who isn’t a prostitute.
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #107 posted 09/25/19 2:21am

Wolfie87

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I bet you guys would bitch n moan about a blowjob. Or at least analyze it as you’re getting one. Which is hard to even believe anyone would even blow you who isn’t a prostitute.


I hope you're a diehard Prince fan, because that was one of the funniest shit I've read in a while. And I want to believe that every Prince fan isn't a music snob with a stick up their ass. lol
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Reply #108 posted 09/25/19 2:30am

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Wolfie87 said:

rdhull said:

I bet you guys would bitch n moan about a blowjob. Or at least analyze it as you’re getting one. Which is hard to even believe anyone would even blow you who isn’t a prostitute.


I hope you're a diehard Prince fan, because that was one of the funniest shit I've read in a while. And I want to believe that every Prince fan isn't a music snob with a stick up their ass. lol


RD is a diehard. He’s been asking for a name check since the NPGMC days at least. lol
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Reply #109 posted 09/25/19 11:55am

jfenster

rdhull said:

I bet you guys would bitch n moan about a blowjob. Or at least analyze it as you’re getting one. Which is hard to even believe anyone would even blow you who isn’t a prostitute.

what can u expect with a thread devoted entirely about a SILENT segue length

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