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wildgoldenhoney said: I Love U But I Don't Trust U Anymore It sounded like it was a final goodbye or an acceptance that his wishing for a future with Denise was over. He moved on with his hopes and dreams. That song is not about Denise. Their relationship ended many many years prior to him writing the song. Although, it’s interesting because during the last P&M show he sang this song and after the lyric “I remember meeting you here in the good old days” he then said, “the 80’s”. The song says “what happened to the ring I gave you”, and the only woman he gave a ring to in the 80’s was Susannah. So, I thought that was interesting. Even if the song was not originally about her it seemed to be connected to her that night. | |
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TheTruth123 said: “But it let me know that my name had never really been spoken before Before the day I carried you through the Bridle Path door” Remember, Prince and Manuela lived on a street called The Bridle Path in Toronto. Prince changed his name back not long before he married Manuela. The song was expressing how he loved hearing his name again and hearing Manuela say it. | |
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In one of my favorites "Still Would Stand All Time" he sings the lyrics "so many times, I thought I could not make it, life was closing in, I just knew, I just knew I couldn't take it"....tears me up all the time, because I can remember feeling that same exact way when I was at my lowest. | |
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Thank you for mentioning that song...I love it melodically. There is a Youtube video of it and Prince is playing the organ. It gives me chills everytime. | |
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^^You're welcome PeggyO, I love that song. | |
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violetcrush said: wildgoldenhoney said: I Love U But I Don't Trust U Anymore It sounded like it was a final goodbye or an acceptance that his wishing for a future with Denise was over. He moved on with his hopes and dreams. That song is not about Denise. Their relationship ended many many years prior to him writing the song. Although, it’s interesting because during the last P&M show he sang this song and after the lyric “I remember meeting you here in the good old days” he then said, “the 80’s”. The song says “what happened to the ring I gave you”, and the only woman he gave a ring to in the 80’s was Susannah. So, I thought that was interesting. Even if the song was not originally about her it seemed to be connected to her that night. Yes. And he said it with a slight sense of humor. But it was obvious that he was still so emotional about Mayte. (I think). This is where the man confuses me. | |
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violetcrush said: TheTruth123 said: “But it let me know that my name had never really been spoken before Before the day I carried you through the Bridle Path door” Remember, Prince and Manuela lived on a street called The Bridle Path in Toronto. Prince changed his name back not long before he married Manuela. The song was expressing how he loved hearing his name again and hearing Manuela say it. Yup. That’s why I don’t get what Militant meant (?) Calling Militant! | |
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jstar69 said: Old friends 4 sale Ah. For certain. Our Prince had to be so private. Smart man. | |
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"Until U're In My Arms Again."
I think it said everything he felt about the loss of his child. | |
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Old Friends 4 Sale (1985) . Leaving 4 New York (1977) . Computer Blue (1984) 14min version . Purple Music (1982)
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TheTruth123 said: “But it let me know that my name had never really been spoken before
Before the day I carried you through the Bridle Path door” Remember, Prince and Manuela lived on a street called The Bridle Path in Toronto. Bridle, bridal. Sounds the same. Either way, he meant "married" to or loved the woman. Just a point I thought of, at the end of the song, it's as if he's introducing himself, "Prince" or, "I'm Prince, by the way". [Edited 9/4/19 21:55pm] | |
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Militant said:
Nope. If I'm not mistaken, Mayte said that the song wasn't about their relationship (even though she is the one he got the idea for the song from.) It probably perfectly described what he was trying to say about Denice. | |
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Mama (1984) . Father's Song (1984) expressing a lot without even talking
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TheTruth123 said: Militant said:
The pro-shot footage of this from the Piano & A Microphone gala makes this blindingly obvious. He gets emotional and starts shaking his head from side to side during it. He missed her Missed Manuela, for whom he wrote it? I dooooon’t thiiink so. Yup, it's not Manuela. | |
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wildgoldenhoney said: Militant said:
Nope. If I'm not mistaken, Mayte said that the song wasn't about their relationship (even though she is the one he got the idea for the song from.) It probably perfectly described what he was trying to say about Denice. I haven’t finished Mayte’s book, but a friend told me that she said in it that she was very hurt by that song. | |
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violetcrush said: wildgoldenhoney said: I Love U But I Don't Trust U Anymore
It sounded like it was a final goodbye or an acceptance that his wishing for a future with Denise was over. He moved on with his hopes and dreams. That song is not about Denise. Their relationship ended many many years prior to him writing the song. Although, it’s interesting because during the last P&M show he sang this song and after the lyric “I remember meeting you here in the good old days” he then said, “the 80’s”. The song says “what happened to the ring I gave you”, and the only woman he gave a ring to in the 80’s was Susannah. So, I thought that was interesting. Even if the song was not originally about her it seemed to be connected to her that night. Just because he mentioned a ring, doesn't mean he actually have one. Just as in 'Stay Cool (?)' he said that she broke all the rules and took her top off in his pool. Did she really take too off or is the main point that he loved her when if she's not like he expected, that she just breaks his personal rules? Didn't mean that she actually took her top off also... in the song he said not to worry about the Candy Girl (or arm candy). Another main point in that song besides her breaking all his rules. Or in "When she Comes" A blue bed of roses, she never closes her eyes For his artful technique deserves a peek Call it sublime, 'cause it happens To me the significant line is that she never closes her eyes (not necessarily during love making), in other words she's aware. I don't know, maybe it's just the way I interpret it... [Edited 9/4/19 22:09pm] | |
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TheTruth123 said: wildgoldenhoney said: Nope. If I'm not mistaken, Mayte said that the song wasn't about their relationship (even though she is the one he got the idea for the song from.) It probably perfectly described what he was trying to say about Denice. I haven’t finished Mayte’s book, but a friend told me that she said in it that she was very hurt by that song. Hmm i just read in one of the threads the other day about Matey saying it wasn't about them. Maybe I'm wrong. | |
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A certain kind of mellow. | |
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Is his whole life influenced by women he was in a relationship with? | |
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OldFriends4Sale said:
Is his whole life influenced by women he was in a relationship with? I think it's because i brought up a love song that must be attached to a love interest. | |
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Telling of what? That’s the most vague question I’ve ever heard. | |
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Found this in a thread from 3 years ago, I must've blocked stuff out because I don't remember writing these comments. I know Creep isn't one of his songs but he sang it. *--Well in 'Creep' he said that she (then also he said 'we') don't belong here. Here as in the state of self hate or self loathing. Not a physical place, but a state of being or state of mind. *And** forget which song on AOA but the being 'separated from himself' line was about disassociation. Maybe because of all the traumas he had gone through growing up he lived his life as if he was looking at himself from the outside or separate from his consciousness. But later in his life because he was strong enough now, he was able to 'come back into his own body' and realize that he was living disassociatedly. But that introspection was about him dealing with his pain and traumas.o he may have been talking about that or some other state of mind. | |
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Songs that tell what you really feel in the pit of your soul, without all the BS and the front you put up when you are around others. He almost never explained his lyrics, so I think he could say things in them that he would never say otherwise.
You know, how people write crap on social media that they would never say in person.
At least, that is what I meant by the phrase. Good morning children...take a look out your window, the world is falling... | |
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Thank you for your input! I get where you are coming from and that theme also runs through the affirmations.
But I may have been thinking about the album's concept as a whole and Afirmation 3 as being part of my reason for concluding that he is speaking about disassociation and being caught up in the way of the world.
AOA is about the artificial times or fakeness and not being real. In 'Clouds' he's waking up from being in suspended animation for 45 years because of medication given him. Around the time this album came out he was around 55 but maybe at the time of writing he may have been 54, 53 so he was probably 10 or 11 when this 'subconscious break' happened. Usually a person does that to protect theirself from the hurt they experience at a tender age and cannot handle it. But at a later time in life when they are stronger and are able to handle emotional issues, the mind allows them to come outside of that protective mental wall or barrier and deal with the hurt.
BREAKDOWN He has regrets about how he lived his life and maybe not realizing his self destructive behavior.
AFFIRMATION 1 & 2 Given by a clinically sounding voice that urges him to induce affirmations into his mind, thus changing his thinking and behavior.
AFFIRMATION 3 Again, the clinical voice is still recommending planned affirmation therapy.
WAY BACK HOME Close to the end of the album, he's reiterating his regrets but after affirmations, he's on his way back to being himself and not what other people want or expect of him or requires of him for their own selfish gain or attention. He feels he doesn't belong in that 'fake' life because he's a spiritual person but he's there because he got caught up in the 'Conquer with no fear' could be an affirmation. He was born 'alive' whereas most people are really dead inside because of lack of love. But he has found the path back to
Most people in this world are born dead but he was born alive. It seems 'spiritually alive'. But he had found the path back to happiness because he can now 'see'.
Or something like that... | |
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this comes to mind....
Check, check, 1 2, check
you know what he's sayin'? Face down! [Repeat: x2]
Somebody once told him that he wouldn't take Prince through the ringer
Let him go down as a washed up singer Ain't that a bitch? Thinkin' all along that he wanted to be rich Never respected the root of all evil and he still don't to this day, huh Bury him face down, let the motherfuckers kiss a ass, OK? Face down! [Repeat: x2]
Told 'em he wanted to sing a song about a black child goin' buck wild
And they just laughed in his face Talk to your lawyer but you got no case What you need to do is keep your place Next time you pull a card, it better be a ace motherfucker Or you can lay face down (Face down!) 1 2
Face down! 1 2 Horn [Repeat: x2]
Bass [Repeat: x2] Him and her meaning who I'm singin' about
And his psychoanalyst kinda saw the catalyst As the devil with the blue jeans on, huh Ain't it kinda funny when you see the dawn? Sign the name they gave ya But when them motherfuckers turn around ass up, you're what? Face down! 1 2
Face down! New Power Generation in the house, bury 'em all Face down! Yes, oh Lord Face down! Orchestra [Repeat: x3]
Face down! Orchestra Face down! It's in his will, I read it
He shot to kill, he said it for those who know the number and don't call Hmph, fuck all y'all Face down! [Repeat: x53
Hello God,
within this loveletter
[Edited 9/5/19 22:28pm] Special Thanks 2 Paisley Park and The DownLoad Society | |
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Oh yeah, another great one! P sang stuff that your mamma would have given you the switch for. Such a freeing experience for the world. Good morning children...take a look out your window, the world is falling... | |
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