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Thread started 08/23/19 7:07am

jdcxc

Let’s Pick the New Director for Netflix Doc

The Estate has bungled a lot of decisions in Princeworld. The Netflix Documentary could go a long way toward his musical legacy or be a cheesy, poorly visioned work of crap (like most Prince docs). It needs to have top flight musical expertise, production values and direction.

Let’s help choose the Director! (Or any other advice)

My Picks:
Spike Lee (Close relationship, musical knowledge, Doc Director)
Gina Prince-Bythewood
Barry Jenkins
Paul Thomas Anderson
Spike Jonze
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Reply #1 posted 08/23/19 7:23am

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I think whoever gets the job should NOT be a super Prince fan because that way we'll only get the story told from a certain point of view. We don't need another puff piece. Given that Spike Lee was a good friend of Prince, I would rule him out straight away. My personal choice would be Martin Scorsese. He has a decent history with music docs and he's an incredible film maker, possibly the best of all time. His perceived lack of Prince knowledge wouldn't be an issue because if he sets his mind on a project then he goes all in with his preparation. And as an added bonus, he would more than likely tell the Prince story from an unbiased perspective.
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Reply #2 posted 08/23/19 7:41am

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In my dreams i would have Duane Tudahl or per Nilsen on board in some kind of advisory role.
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Reply #3 posted 08/23/19 8:20am

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A solid documentary needs a director who won't put their personal "woke" spin on it, like (even though I love the guy) Spike Lee or Ava Duvernay...

Hire a capable and experienced director/music documentarist with no emotional connection to Prince who is willing to present something insightful and professional instead of some emo "friend of Prince who happens to be a director" kind of affair who will forget it's a documentary about "Prince"...
Keep it classy and professional...

So I would go for:

Martin Scorsese...

Simply because he is more than capable and the only minor connection he has with Prince is when Prince asked him to direct "Under The Cherry Moon" and he declined the offer in the most mature and classy way... He doesn't have an agenda regarding Prince...

Neversin.

[Edited 8/23/19 8:41am]

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Reply #4 posted 08/23/19 8:39am

Apollo85

I'm not saying I want him to be the director but what about...Tim Burton.

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Reply #5 posted 08/23/19 9:24am

trickster

Apollo85 said:

I'm not saying I want him to be the director but what about...Tim Burton.

good one for me! he would be able to keep the mystery alive ...

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Reply #6 posted 08/23/19 9:39am

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Spike Lee is the first choice. George Lucas is my second choice.

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Reply #7 posted 08/23/19 10:05am

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I'm going to try to avoid the big names.

Amir Bar-Lev: Did a fantastic 4 hour documentary on The Grateful Dead. His entire body of work is either documentaries or relief concerts. I feel like he could really do the subject justice without injecting his own politics or focusing on the more scandalous parts of Prince's life. He'd be my number one pick.

Ondi Timoner: She has a more raw approach to documentaries but DiG! is one of the best music related documentaries ever released. It'd be interesting to see what she could put together out of archive material. Probably not flashy enough for Netflix though.

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Reply #8 posted 08/23/19 11:58am

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Kevin Smith. lol

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Reply #9 posted 08/23/19 12:15pm

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Neversin said:

A solid documentary needs a director who won't put their personal "woke" spin on it, like (even though I love the guy) Spike Lee or Ava Duvernay...


Hire a capable and experienced director/music documentarist with no emotional connection to Prince who is willing to present something insightful and professional instead of some emo "friend of Prince who happens to be a director" kind of affair who will forget it's a documentary about "Prince"...
Keep it classy and professional...

So I would go for:

Martin Scorsese...

Simply because he is more than capable and the only minor connection he has with Prince is when Prince asked him to direct "Under The Cherry Moon" and he declined the offer in the most mature and classy way... He doesn't have an agenda regarding Prince...

Neversin.

[Edited 8/23/19 8:41am]



Yeah, pretty much what I said. You worded it better though biggrin
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Reply #10 posted 08/23/19 12:17pm

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Reply #11 posted 08/23/19 12:20pm

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donnyenglish said:

Spike Lee is the first choice. George Lucas is my second choice.


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Reply #12 posted 08/23/19 1:29pm

jdcxc

EmmaMcG said:

Neversin said:

A solid documentary needs a director who won't put their personal "woke" spin on it, like (even though I love the guy) Spike Lee or Ava Duvernay...


Hire a capable and experienced director/music documentarist with no emotional connection to Prince who is willing to present something insightful and professional instead of some emo "friend of Prince who happens to be a director" kind of affair who will forget it's a documentary about "Prince"...
Keep it classy and professional...

So I would go for:

Martin Scorsese...

Simply because he is more than capable and the only minor connection he has with Prince is when Prince asked him to direct "Under The Cherry Moon" and he declined the offer in the most mature and classy way... He doesn't have an agenda regarding Prince...

Neversin.

[Edited 8/23/19 8:41am]



Yeah, pretty much what I said. You worded it better though biggrin


Under the Cherry Moon did have long time Scorsese collaborator Michael Ballhaus doing the amazing cinematography.
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Reply #13 posted 08/23/19 3:13pm

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depends ... is it gonna be his WHOLE life or is it gonna do like most and act like he didn't do anything significant after 1988, skip the 90s go straight to 2004 then his death

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Reply #14 posted 08/23/19 3:39pm

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Martin Scorcese.

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Reply #15 posted 08/23/19 3:41pm

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CynicKill said:

Martin Scorcese.

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Reply #16 posted 08/23/19 4:26pm

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EmmaMcG said:

I think whoever gets the job should NOT be a super Prince fan because that way we'll only get the story told from a certain point of view. We don't need another puff piece. Given that Spike Lee was a good friend of Prince, I would rule him out straight away. My personal choice would be Martin Scorsese. He has a decent history with music docs and he's an incredible film maker, possibly the best of all time. His perceived lack of Prince knowledge wouldn't be an issue because if he sets his mind on a project then he goes all in with his preparation. And as an added bonus, he would more than likely tell the Prince story from an unbiased perspective.

Great choice

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Reply #17 posted 08/23/19 4:32pm

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Spike Lee, George Lucas or Martin Scorsese would be my top choices.

I want a well rounded, well informed documentary, not just some fluff piece or act like it has to center mostly around Purple Rain. I want it to focus on his entire life from the early years until his untimely death. Also hopefully they can interview as many people as possible who has worked with him over the years. Something he would be proud of and so will the fans.

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Reply #18 posted 08/24/19 12:05am

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Spike, not just because of his obvious love for Prince but also because he's made some of my favorite documentaries, i like his docus better than his films. Funny thing was, Spike used to talk shit about Prince when he was young, back when he was against pretty much everything and anything.

Can't think of anyone else offhand that I think could do Prince justice.

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Reply #19 posted 08/24/19 12:07am

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Apollo85 said:

I'm not saying I want him to be the director but what about...Tim Burton.

has tim ever done a docu? that might be interesting. Tim has an obsession with misfits and wierdos and Prince was right up his alley.

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Reply #20 posted 08/24/19 12:11am

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Strive said:

I'm going to try to avoid the big names.

Amir Bar-Lev: Did a fantastic 4 hour documentary on The Grateful Dead. His entire body of work is either documentaries or relief concerts. I feel like he could really do the subject justice without injecting his own politics or focusing on the more scandalous parts of Prince's life. He'd be my number one pick.

Ondi Timoner: She has a more raw approach to documentaries but DiG! is one of the best music related documentaries ever released. It'd be interesting to see what she could put together out of archive material. Probably not flashy enough for Netflix though.

i really don't see how scorcese and lucas could do any kind of a good job, they're too far away from the subject. Spike would do best and i'm sure he's thought of it. Spike does balanced docus, some of the best i ever saw. So, I have to say, I can't see how anyone can do a good documentary if they don't have some sort of interest, or knowledge of their subject. Scorcese would be coming in cold and then there is the racial aspect. Scorcese didn't like boxing and he did a great boxing film but he had a good supporting team and even still, not everyone likes raging bull, criticizing it for being slow paced.

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Reply #21 posted 08/24/19 12:33am

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Really? hmmm as I understand it,Spike was always a huge fan.I've never heard about him saying anything negative.

PeteSilas said:

Funny thing was, Spike used to talk shit about Prince when he was young, back when he was against pretty much everything and anything.

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Reply #22 posted 08/24/19 12:45am

PeteSilas

SoulAlive said:

Really? hmmm as I understand it,Spike was always a huge fan.I've never heard about him saying anything negative.

PeteSilas said:

Funny thing was, Spike used to talk shit about Prince when he was young, back when he was against pretty much everything and anything.

ya, i think i have the article, he was talking shit about prince using "Ooooeee ooooo oooo ooo" from wizard of oz because he was also using it for a song in School Daze. Doesn't mean anything, Spike was young and against everyone, eddie, arsenio, probably whoopie and whitney too, it's the overcompensation and insecurity of youth. He has said in recent years "i haven't been that guy for 25 years".

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Reply #23 posted 08/24/19 7:42am

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no one poltical... based on some of her work (which is great for what it is) I am kind of glad she is out... and Hell Not to Spike Lee. No No No!


Maybe the guy that did the U2 movie? or how about Albert Magnoli?

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Reply #24 posted 08/24/19 9:49am

CynicKill

PeteSilas said:

Strive said:

I'm going to try to avoid the big names.

Amir Bar-Lev: Did a fantastic 4 hour documentary on The Grateful Dead. His entire body of work is either documentaries or relief concerts. I feel like he could really do the subject justice without injecting his own politics or focusing on the more scandalous parts of Prince's life. He'd be my number one pick.

Ondi Timoner: She has a more raw approach to documentaries but DiG! is one of the best music related documentaries ever released. It'd be interesting to see what she could put together out of archive material. Probably not flashy enough for Netflix though.

i really don't see how scorcese and lucas could do any kind of a good job, they're too far away from the subject. Spike would do best and i'm sure he's thought of it. Spike does balanced docus, some of the best i ever saw. So, I have to say, I can't see how anyone can do a good documentary if they don't have some sort of interest, or knowledge of their subject. Scorcese would be coming in cold and then there is the racial aspect. Scorcese didn't like boxing and he did a great boxing film but he had a good supporting team and even still, not everyone likes raging bull, criticizing it for being slow paced.

What did I miss here?

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Reply #25 posted 08/24/19 11:17am

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lol Ken Burns should do a multi-part 1 week long doc.

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Reply #26 posted 08/24/19 11:36am

CynicKill

ufoclub said:

lol Ken Burns should do a multi-part 1 week long doc.

Strangely I could see this working.

Ken Burns is thorough.

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Reply #27 posted 08/24/19 12:09pm

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Why not Albert Magnoli?

He has done a great job in the past (Purple Rain, the 1989 documentary etc). He knows a lot of inside stuff.

I say, he fits the profile!

Doc.

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Reply #28 posted 08/24/19 12:54pm

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Spike Lee
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Reply #29 posted 08/24/19 1:16pm

PeteSilas

CynicKill said:

ufoclub said:

lol Ken Burns should do a multi-part 1 week long doc.

Strangely I could see this working.

Ken Burns is thorough.

ken is good but what you guys might be missing is that a documentarian usually has a passion and an interest in his subject, without that, what do we have. Ken may or may not know one thing about Prince, do you want someone who has none of the knowledge that even us fans have garnered over 30+ years trying to make a docu? It doesn't have to be bad but.., I know as a fan of boxing that when someone who doesn't know boxing writes a bio it usually is loaded with mistakes and misperceptions from a sports perspective although it may be informative on a person's life. Little thing maybe but it does bother me when someone calls a left hook a right hook etc..,

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