I can certainly hear that Prince could have been involved. Who else though?

I'm sorry, but that is not Bobby Z on the drums. Andre is capable, but this is so polished for all them. I know Prince wrote it most everything. But if this is true, Prince made a mojor mistake not creating a more band enviroment.

This is late 70's funk / jazz fusion

That is pretty much all Prince.

Rev said:

I can certainly hear that Prince could have been involved. Who else though?

I'm sorry, but that is not Bobby Z on the drums. Andre is capable, but this is so polished for all them. I know Prince wrote it most everything. But if this is true, Prince made a mojor mistake not creating a more band enviroment.

This is late 70's funk / jazz fusion

From my understanding you are actually hearing/refering to a Sound80 studio Prince session

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The Loring Park sessions is different and included Prince Bobby Z and Andre

I suggest you see this post:

https://prince.org/msg/7/441671

Great discussion.

Basically, what we thought were the Loring Park sessions have always been the Sound 80 sessions, which were Prince alone. According to Owen Husney, the tracks he recorded at his office (Loring), were just recently digitized and "have yet to be heard".

More:

http://blog.thecurrent.or...th-prince/

Thanks everyone for the info. It popped up on youtube with "Prince, Cymone, Rivkin" on the screen.

I knew it couldn't be true.

Andre Cymone and Owen Husney Return To Loring Park

"The last time I was in this building was 1984."

Owen Husney is standing in the doorway of 430 Oak Grove, a high-end apartment complex on the south edge of Loring Park in Minneapolis. As soon as the doors swing open and he steps into the marble atrium, you can see the memories pulling him backwards through time, back to when he was a young ad executive renting out an office on the first floor, and toying with the idea of switching back to working on music full-time.

"I moved here in about 1976, and we had just one little office. I think the rent was $120 a month, and I was screaming. How can anyone charge $120 a month? Let me go talk to the manager of the building!" he recalled, chuckling.

Soon after Husney enters the lobby, the door swings open again and he is joined by André Cymone, a musician who Husney would meet shortly after settling into his 430 Oak Grove space. Cymone was best friends and bandmates with a young undiscovered artist named Prince Rogers Nelson, and almost exactly 40 years ago they recorded an unreleased album known as the Loring Park Sessions in Husney's office and studio.

The Loring Park Sessions have taken on a certain mystical quality for Prince fans in the last few years, ever since Husney found the tapes in his storage space and had them digitized and uploaded online. The sessions were recorded just a year before Prince would release his debut album, For You, and were captured in that hazy and heart-pounding space between when Prince had signed to Warner Bros. and when he would make his first step onto the national stage.

With Prince on keys and guitar, André on bass, and Bobby Z on drums, the trio pummel through a genre-bending set of eight instrumental songs that swirl together funk, disco, R&B and jazz. The songs sound more like a group of Los Angeles session players laying down tracks for a major studio than a group of teenagers just feeling out their vibe as a live band.

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"Bobby was my runner. He would get my dry-cleaning and everything, before I met Prince," Husney recalls. "And then when I met Prince, it was like, ok, now you're going to run around and get Prince's dry-cleaning done, and if Andre needs anything, you're going to run him around. And Bobby had played with a band, 94 East, before that, but no one was taking him seriously until we started jamming. And then that was so cool."

"Originally we had just assumed Morris [Day] was going to be our drummer," Cymone adds. "And you know, Prince was adamant that he'd love to find a drummer that varies the board, so to speak."

"He wanted a rainbow," Husney says.

"Like a Sly and the Family Stone thing," Cymone says, nodding his head. "And Bobby is really good — because we did those sort of jazzy things, in the Loring performances, and they're amazing."

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Giovanni777 said:

I suggest you see this post:

https://prince.org/msg/7/441671

Great discussion.

Basically, what we thought were the Loring Park sessions have always been the Sound 80 sessions, which were Prince alone. According to Owen Husney, the tracks he recorded at his office (Loring), were just recently digitized and "have yet to be heard".

More:

http://blog.thecurrent.or...th-prince/

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If the Loring Park Sessions are "yet to be heard", then why are Owen and Andre using the cover of "Husney's: A Work In Progress" bootleg for the plaque they signed? Using that cover obviously means that they confirm that bootleg to be the actual Loring Park Sessions they are remembering.

Kares said:

Giovanni777 said:

I suggest you see this post:

https://prince.org/msg/7/441671

Great discussion.

Basically, what we thought were the Loring Park sessions have always been the Sound 80 sessions, which were Prince alone. According to Owen Husney, the tracks he recorded at his office (Loring), were just recently digitized and "have yet to be heard".

More:

http://blog.thecurrent.or...th-prince/

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If the Loring Park Sessions are "yet to be heard", then why are Owen and Andre using the cover of "Husney's: A Work In Progress" bootleg for the plaque they signed? Using that cover obviously means that they confirm that bootleg to be the actual Loring Park Sessions they are remembering.

That is pretty odd isn't it? Hell the fact that they're using bootleg artwork at all is strange. I wonder if someone just found it on the internet and downloaded it for use on the plaque without much thought.

OldFriends4Sale said:

Andre Cymone and Owen Husney Return To Loring Park

"The last time I was in this building was 1984."

Owen Husney is standing in the doorway of 430 Oak Grove, a high-end apartment complex on the south edge of Loring Park in Minneapolis. As soon as the doors swing open and he steps into the marble atrium, you can see the memories pulling him backwards through time, back to when he was a young ad executive renting out an office on the first floor, and toying with the idea of switching back to working on music full-time.

"I moved here in about 1976, and we had just one little office. I think the rent was $120 a month, and I was screaming. How can anyone charge $120 a month? Let me go talk to the manager of the building!" he recalled, chuckling.

Soon after Husney enters the lobby, the door swings open again and he is joined by André Cymone, a musician who Husney would meet shortly after settling into his 430 Oak Grove space. Cymone was best friends and bandmates with a young undiscovered artist named Prince Rogers Nelson, and almost exactly 40 years ago they recorded an unreleased album known as the Loring Park Sessions in Husney's office and studio.

The Loring Park Sessions have taken on a certain mystical quality for Prince fans in the last few years, ever since Husney found the tapes in his storage space and had them digitized and uploaded online. The sessions were recorded just a year before Prince would release his debut album, For You, and were captured in that hazy and heart-pounding space between when Prince had signed to Warner Bros. and when he would make his first step onto the national stage.

With Prince on keys and guitar, André on bass, and Bobby Z on drums, the trio pummel through a genre-bending set of eight instrumental songs that swirl together funk, disco, R&B and jazz. The songs sound more like a group of Los Angeles session players laying down tracks for a major studio than a group of teenagers just feeling out their vibe as a live band.

.

.

"Bobby was my runner. He would get my dry-cleaning and everything, before I met Prince," Husney recalls. "And then when I met Prince, it was like, ok, now you're going to run around and get Prince's dry-cleaning done, and if Andre needs anything, you're going to run him around. And Bobby had played with a band, 94 East, before that, but no one was taking him seriously until we started jamming. And then that was so cool."

"Originally we had just assumed Morris [Day] was going to be our drummer," Cymone adds. "And you know, Prince was adamant that he'd love to find a drummer that varies the board, so to speak."

"He wanted a rainbow," Husney says.

"Like a Sly and the Family Stone thing," Cymone says, nodding his head. "And Bobby is really good — because we did those sort of jazzy things, in the Loring performances, and they're amazing."

.

If we've never heard the Loring Park sessions, why does it sound like they're describing the Sound 80 recordings.

Are we to believe that Bobby Z play the drums to that level. I've never heard that ability since he left Prince. Hoestly, it's remarkable that Prince had the talent at that age.

Rev said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Andre Cymone and Owen Husney Return To Loring Park

"The last time I was in this building was 1984."

Owen Husney is standing in the doorway of 430 Oak Grove, a high-end apartment complex on the south edge of Loring Park in Minneapolis. As soon as the doors swing open and he steps into the marble atrium, you can see the memories pulling him backwards through time, back to when he was a young ad executive renting out an office on the first floor, and toying with the idea of switching back to working on music full-time.

"I moved here in about 1976, and we had just one little office. I think the rent was $120 a month, and I was screaming. How can anyone charge $120 a month? Let me go talk to the manager of the building!" he recalled, chuckling.

Soon after Husney enters the lobby, the door swings open again and he is joined by André Cymone, a musician who Husney would meet shortly after settling into his 430 Oak Grove space. Cymone was best friends and bandmates with a young undiscovered artist named Prince Rogers Nelson, and almost exactly 40 years ago they recorded an unreleased album known as the Loring Park Sessions in Husney's office and studio.

The Loring Park Sessions have taken on a certain mystical quality for Prince fans in the last few years, ever since Husney found the tapes in his storage space and had them digitized and uploaded online. The sessions were recorded just a year before Prince would release his debut album, For You, and were captured in that hazy and heart-pounding space between when Prince had signed to Warner Bros. and when he would make his first step onto the national stage.

With Prince on keys and guitar, André on bass, and Bobby Z on drums, the trio pummel through a genre-bending set of eight instrumental songs that swirl together funk, disco, R&B and jazz. The songs sound more like a group of Los Angeles session players laying down tracks for a major studio than a group of teenagers just feeling out their vibe as a live band.

.

.

"Bobby was my runner. He would get my dry-cleaning and everything, before I met Prince," Husney recalls. "And then when I met Prince, it was like, ok, now you're going to run around and get Prince's dry-cleaning done, and if Andre needs anything, you're going to run him around. And Bobby had played with a band, 94 East, before that, but no one was taking him seriously until we started jamming. And then that was so cool."

"Originally we had just assumed Morris [Day] was going to be our drummer," Cymone adds. "And you know, Prince was adamant that he'd love to find a drummer that varies the board, so to speak."

"He wanted a rainbow," Husney says.

"Like a Sly and the Family Stone thing," Cymone says, nodding his head. "And Bobby is really good — because we did those sort of jazzy things, in the Loring performances, and they're amazing."

.

If we've never heard the Loring Park sessions, why does it sound like they're describing the Sound 80 recordings.

Are we to believe that Bobby Z play the drums to that level. I've never heard that ability since he left Prince. Hoestly, it's remarkable that Prince had the talent at that age.

Idk, hopefully it will all come out

Truth is, and we know Prince has done this, ...how many times was the drumming recorded, tightened up, fixed up, pieced together. Remember how 777-9311 and the guitar solo was done?

If the tapes described as Loring Park actually are Sound 80 and that's all Prince then homeboy needed to work on his time as the drummer is speeding up and slowing down like an amatuer. I always thought it was Bobby.

I used to think that the Loring Park/Sound 80 sessions were all Prince, but now after reading Morris Day's book, especially about the part where the WB demo tape which was narrated as Prince playing all the parts when in reality it turned out to be a whole band, idk it made me kinda skeptical at this. Be that as it may, great music came from that session and I always felt he channeled that sound when he produced Rainbow Children.

[Edited 10/17/19 17:20pm]