violetcrush said:

PennyPurple said:

Link please....

I will look for the information. I may be confusing it with him stopping her sale of some of his clothes, jewelry, etc in the 2014-2015 time frame, or possible earlier than that. When he was interviewed by George Lopez in 2011 he stated that "a lot of my stuff gets stolen" when he was talking about a guitar that he had auctioned for charity.

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But really, it's not hard to believe that he would have tried to block her memoir of her time with him. He was sending out Cease & Desist letters to associates who just answered a few questions about him during interviews. Lisa Coleman stated she and Wendy received a letter after one of their interviews.

From the MN Star Tribune interview with Jon Bream May 2016:

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On writing the book

She began working on a book several years ago to tell her life story. “A lot of trauma I made myself forget,” she said. “I was very into journals.” She delved into this project in earnest in September. She worked with an uncredited ghost writer named Joni Rodgers, who’d collaborated with Broadway star Kristin Chenowith and actress Swoosie Kurtz on their books.

“I specifically chose a woman who’d lost a child because that was the most important part of the book and I wanted to be as delicate as possible,” Garcia said in explaining why she chose Rodgers. “We went back and forth a lot with that. I needed help finding the words.”

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This is what she stated about a non-disclosure agreement, but I don't believe this for a second. By the time she arrived at PP to work in his camp ALL associates had those agreements:

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On Prince and privacy

Unlike other people who worked for Prince, she didn’t have a nondisclosure contract. If you read the book, you can tell it’s my life.

“I was married to him. There’s a level of respect you want to hold. I worked for him as well. I met him when I was 16. My father gave him legal guardianship over me. It was a different relationship” than his other employees had.

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Sorry, but legal guardianship with Prince or not (which, by the way, is just crazy to me) there would have been some type of non-disclosure agreement. If not, anything she may have discussed with her parents, family members, friends, etc could have been publicized.

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Link to full article: http://www.startribune.co...421629693/

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violetcrush said:

amethyst68 said:

violetcrush said: You are a female, right? Excuse me for correcting you but no woman having contractions in her 7th month of pregnancy with the problems she had is carrying a baby to the projected due date. Her son was born 3 weeks early. Ask your doctor but most would consider 37 weeks to be full term or early term. No sense in dissecting every word she has said. Even if she conceived before their wedding date, there is no way she would have known it. A pregnancy test couldn’t confirm it. Learn a little bit about your body and conception. Pregnancies aren’t instantaneous. There was no rush to have a wedding. There’s an article published in early December that discusses rumors of their wedding date. She couldn’t have been pregnant then. That would mean she conceived in November.

"Early term: Your baby is born between 37 weeks, 0 days and 38 weeks, 6 days. Full term: Your baby is born between 39 weeks, 0 days and 40 weeks, 6 days. Late term: Your baby is born between 41 weeks, 0 days and 41 weeks, 6 days. Postterm: Your baby is born after 42 weeks, 0 days."

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I am actually a Mother. I have a 12 yr old daughter, so I understand conception very very well. 40 weeks is full term or also called "to term", not 37 weeks - I have first hand knowledge, because my daughter was born at 371/2 weeks, which was considered 11/2 weeks early. Mayte's conception date would have been mid January for a mid October due date. Also, if she had conceived on January 15th, let's say, which would have been about 2 weeks after her last menstrual cycle, she would have been able to see a positive pregnancy test as early as January 24th - 9 days later. She would have been about one month into her pregnancy by her wedding date - or a bit more if she had conceived earlier in January. There would have been plenty of time to plan a quick and small local ceremony, which is exactly what they ended up doing. Can you imagine the media's field day had they known she was pregnant before the wedding?? I understand why they would have "tweaked" the dates. No doubt Prince did not want that kind of press, and he wanted to protect her as well.

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From what I have read, they had supposedly planned to eventually have the wedding in Paris, because Prince loved Paris - it is where he had proposed to Susannah Melvoin in 1985, however, as we know, they never got married. As late as March of 1995, Prince had stated to a journalist, when asked if he planned to settle down and have children, that marriage and family were not in the cards for him. Prince giving Mayte an engagement ring - even if it was December of 1995 - in no way confirmed a marriage was going to happen. It's widely known that he was still dating Nona Gaye when he gave Mayte the ring. However, it makes sense that he would move quickly with the marriage upon learning of the positive pregnancy test.

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Here is Mayte stating she carried the baby to term. It seems clear that she is faking emotion as well by wiping a tear that is not there. I totally understand that the passage of time diminishes the intensity of the emotions, but then don't try to dramatize it on a TV show. That just seemed very wrong to me:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suSGH-0-Io8

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All I am saying here is that I don't necessarily think their marriage was set in stone until the positive pregnancy test. Offering an engagement ring does not solidify a wedding, especially with someone like Prince.

Page 176 in Mayte's book is where Prince gave her the engagement ring, it was October. Prince was planning the wedding long before January....

Also according to Mayte on their honeymoon she took a pregnancy test and it was negative...

violetcrush said:

violetcrush said:

I will look for the information. I may be confusing it with him stopping her sale of some of his clothes, jewelry, etc in the 2014-2015 time frame, or possible earlier than that. When he was interviewed by George Lopez in 2011 he stated that "a lot of my stuff gets stolen" when he was talking about a guitar that he had auctioned for charity.

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But really, it's not hard to believe that he would have tried to block her memoir of her time with him. He was sending out Cease & Desist letters to associates who just answered a few questions about him during interviews. Lisa Coleman stated she and Wendy received a letter after one of their interviews.

From the MN Star Tribune interview with Jon Bream May 2016:

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On writing the book

She began working on a book several years ago to tell her life story. “A lot of trauma I made myself forget,” she said. “I was very into journals.” She delved into this project in earnest in September. She worked with an uncredited ghost writer named Joni Rodgers, who’d collaborated with Broadway star Kristin Chenowith and actress Swoosie Kurtz on their books.

“I specifically chose a woman who’d lost a child because that was the most important part of the book and I wanted to be as delicate as possible,” Garcia said in explaining why she chose Rodgers. “We went back and forth a lot with that. I needed help finding the words.”

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This is what she stated about a non-disclosure agreement, but I don't believe this for a second. By the time she arrived at PP to work in his camp ALL associates had those agreements:

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On Prince and privacy

Unlike other people who worked for Prince, she didn’t have a nondisclosure contract. If you read the book, you can tell it’s my life.

“I was married to him. There’s a level of respect you want to hold. I worked for him as well. I met him when I was 16. My father gave him legal guardianship over me. It was a different relationship” than his other employees had.

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Sorry, but legal guardianship with Prince or not (which, by the way, is just crazy to me) there would have been some type of non-disclosure agreement. If not, anything she may have discussed with her parents, family members, friends, etc could have been publicized.

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Link to full article: http://www.startribune.co...421629693/

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But where does it say that Prince stopped her from publishing it?

PennyPurple said:

violetcrush said:

From the MN Star Tribune interview with Jon Bream May 2016:

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On writing the book

She began working on a book several years ago to tell her life story. “A lot of trauma I made myself forget,” she said. “I was very into journals.” She delved into this project in earnest in September. She worked with an uncredited ghost writer named Joni Rodgers, who’d collaborated with Broadway star Kristin Chenowith and actress Swoosie Kurtz on their books.

“I specifically chose a woman who’d lost a child because that was the most important part of the book and I wanted to be as delicate as possible,” Garcia said in explaining why she chose Rodgers. “We went back and forth a lot with that. I needed help finding the words.”

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This is what she stated about a non-disclosure agreement, but I don't believe this for a second. By the time she arrived at PP to work in his camp ALL associates had those agreements:

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On Prince and privacy

Unlike other people who worked for Prince, she didn’t have a nondisclosure contract. If you read the book, you can tell it’s my life.

“I was married to him. There’s a level of respect you want to hold. I worked for him as well. I met him when I was 16. My father gave him legal guardianship over me. It was a different relationship” than his other employees had.

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Sorry, but legal guardianship with Prince or not (which, by the way, is just crazy to me) there would have been some type of non-disclosure agreement. If not, anything she may have discussed with her parents, family members, friends, etc could have been publicized.

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Link to full article: http://www.startribune.co...421629693/

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But where does it say that Prince stopped her from publishing it?

I found another interview where she states "he never stopped her from publishing her memoir". If that's true, and she had written all or most of it years earlier, then it makes no sense that she would not have published it sooner. I just don't buy it for a second. The information is completely contradictory.

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From an interview with Twin Cities Pioneer Press, April 2017:

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THE BOOK

“I started writing this book years ago. I wanted to remember, just, my childhood,” Garcia said. “People would tell me, especially after my marriage to Prince, you need to write a book because you’ve had a crazy life.”

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She added: “It was never like a tell-all or to talk bad about my relationship and my past. Actually it was done for love, and then when he passed, then I really felt the urgency to do it because I know a lot of people are going to come out with books and stories, but none like mine.”

Prince was intensely private; he shied away from the spotlight, did few interviews and intentionally tried to create mysterious image. But Garcia, who also starred in VH1’s reality show “Hollywood Exes,” said he didn’t try and stop her from putting out a memoir."

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She claims he didn't try to stop her memoir, but it doesn't appear that she ever tried to have it published prior to his death, so it's impossible to know what he would have done about it.

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Interestingly, from that same Twin Cities interview:

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"They married when she was 22. She was pregnant two months later."

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So, that would mean that she would have conceived April 14th and given birth around the beginning or middle of January 1997. It's possible that the journalist wrote it incorrectly, but that's a big piece of information to get wrong during an interview.

PennyPurple said:

violetcrush said:

"Early term: Your baby is born between 37 weeks, 0 days and 38 weeks, 6 days. Full term: Your baby is born between 39 weeks, 0 days and 40 weeks, 6 days. Late term: Your baby is born between 41 weeks, 0 days and 41 weeks, 6 days. Postterm: Your baby is born after 42 weeks, 0 days."

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I am actually a Mother. I have a 12 yr old daughter, so I understand conception very very well. 40 weeks is full term or also called "to term", not 37 weeks - I have first hand knowledge, because my daughter was born at 371/2 weeks, which was considered 11/2 weeks early. Mayte's conception date would have been mid January for a mid October due date. Also, if she had conceived on January 15th, let's say, which would have been about 2 weeks after her last menstrual cycle, she would have been able to see a positive pregnancy test as early as January 24th - 9 days later. She would have been about one month into her pregnancy by her wedding date - or a bit more if she had conceived earlier in January. There would have been plenty of time to plan a quick and small local ceremony, which is exactly what they ended up doing. Can you imagine the media's field day had they known she was pregnant before the wedding?? I understand why they would have "tweaked" the dates. No doubt Prince did not want that kind of press, and he wanted to protect her as well.

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From what I have read, they had supposedly planned to eventually have the wedding in Paris, because Prince loved Paris - it is where he had proposed to Susannah Melvoin in 1985, however, as we know, they never got married. As late as March of 1995, Prince had stated to a journalist, when asked if he planned to settle down and have children, that marriage and family were not in the cards for him. Prince giving Mayte an engagement ring - even if it was December of 1995 - in no way confirmed a marriage was going to happen. It's widely known that he was still dating Nona Gaye when he gave Mayte the ring. However, it makes sense that he would move quickly with the marriage upon learning of the positive pregnancy test.

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Here is Mayte stating she carried the baby to term. It seems clear that she is faking emotion as well by wiping a tear that is not there. I totally understand that the passage of time diminishes the intensity of the emotions, but then don't try to dramatize it on a TV show. That just seemed very wrong to me:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suSGH-0-Io8

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All I am saying here is that I don't necessarily think their marriage was set in stone until the positive pregnancy test. Offering an engagement ring does not solidify a wedding, especially with someone like Prince.

Page 176 in Mayte's book is where Prince gave her the engagement ring, it was October. Prince was planning the wedding long before January....

Also according to Mayte on their honeymoon she took a pregnancy test and it was negative...

"According to Mayte" is the operative phrase there, because she can state anything with regard to the pregnancy, and she has had varying stories. Back when she was pregnant the story was that she was due mid November and the baby was over 3 weeks premature. Her story on Hollywood Ex's 17 yrs later was that she carreid the baby "to term". In the article I just posted it states that she was pregnant two months after her wedding date, which would be impossible as she delivered in October. The long running story from her was that she conceived on their wedding night. Okay, sure. How convenient for the timing of her due date and delivery.

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Regarding when the engagement ring was given, it doesn't really matter, because it does not mean a wedding would have happened. I also don't think that several months of planning a wedding would result in a small and quick ceremony at the local MN church with a reception at the NPG store. No way Prince was planning a wedding as early as October '95 - unless it was to be a more grandiose thing before she got pregnant.

violetcrush said:

I can’t read your essay but what I will say Prince and Mayte were in Japan on tour on the day you so strangely picked out as the day they conceived. Hilarious and creepy as f***. During the concert, Prince announced to the audience he was getting married. Also, like I said before, the wedding date had already been planned when it was talked about in gossip rags in early December. Give it a rest, sis.

violetcrush said:

Her pregnancy was no secret. Prince was excited as hell and had his publicist announce it to the world in early April. They also announced the baby’s due date. What private celebs do that? He didn’t give a damn because he was over the moon. In her book, she says she took a pregnancy test after they went to a concert. The concert they attended, as it was reported by the media, was at the end of February or early March. Do you really think Prince would allow her to perform in Hawaii in early February if she was pregnant?

Stop acting as if the only reason he married her was because she was pregnant. It’s not. They were in love and wanted to be together and have a family. In all of the letters from Prince included in her book he made it clear that she was his destiny and he wanted to have children with her and her alone. There were rumors of them headed to the altar right after “The Most Beautuful Girl In The World” was released. Who cares what he told the media. He told the media lots of things that weren’t true. What he told her and what he did is what matters.

amethyst68 said:

She could have conceived on any day in January for an October due date. So, if they’re on tour that means they can’t can’t have sex and conceive a child??
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Please point me to the specific show that Prince announced he was getting married. I’ve never heard that stated before, but even if he did that did not mean a wedding would happen. Heck, his engagement to Susannah was written in national magazines and it did not happen. But, he was much younger and she was not pregnant
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amethyst68 said:

Oh come on!! Rumors are exactly that - just gossip and hearsay. Prince was in no way heading to the altar when he wrote TMBGITW. The biggest rumor is that the song was actually written for her. He was still lamenting over Kim B during that time. Have you listened to the Come album? Replay Dark and Solo and that should change your thinking. Listen to his Stars n Bars show in ‘94 where, before he sings Acknowledge Me, which is known to be about Kim B, he says “much props to the woman who..she knows who she is..she shouldn’t have gotten married”, and before he sang Dark he said “she won’t acknowledge me, she just left me on the dark”. Kim B married Alec Baldwin about 6 months prior to that show.
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Susannah Melvoin also stated he came to her place in 1993 crying in her arms and told her “you’re the only one in the world that can hug me the way I need to be hugged. She also posted the card he wrote to her in 1994-95 which he signed “I love U, please write”.
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So, it would seem Prince was missing at least a couple of past loves during that time. He was NOT planning marriage in ‘93-‘95 time period.
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violetcrush said:

amethyst68 said:

Stop acting as if the only reason he married her was because she was pregnant. It’s not. They were in love and wanted to be together and have a family. In all of the letters from Prince included in her book he made it clear that she was his destiny and he wanted to have children with her and her alone. There were rumors of them headed to the altar right after “The Most Beautuful Girl In The World” was released. Who cares what he told the media. He told the media lots of things that weren’t true. What he told her and what he did is what matters.

Oh come on!! Rumors are exactly that - just gossip and hearsay. Prince was in no way heading to the altar when he wrote TMBGITW. The biggest rumor is that the song was actually written for her. He was still lamenting over Kim B during that time. Have you listened to the Come album? Replay Dark and Solo and that should change your thinking. Listen to his Stars n Bars show in ‘94 where, before he sings Acknowledge Me, which is known to be about Kim B, he says “much props to the woman who..she knows who she is..she shouldn’t have gotten married”, and before he sang Dark he said “she won’t acknowledge me, she just left me on the dark”. Kim B married Alec Baldwin about 6 months prior to that show. * Susannah Melvoin also stated he came to her place in 1993 crying in her arms and told her “you’re the only one in the world that can hug me the way I need to be hugged. She also posted the card he wrote to her in 1994-95 which he signed “I love U, please write”. * So, it would seem Prince was missing at least a couple of past loves during that time. He was NOT planning marriage in ‘93-‘95 time period. [Edited 8/26/19 19:21pm]

He was planning marriage in '95...hence giving her the engagement in Oct of 95.

PennyPurple said:

Prince interviewed by Time Out magazine March 1995:
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’Aaaah.’ Big pause. He looks away. All right then. What about marriage, then? Any plans to singlehandedly put Durex out of business by having lots of little s?

’Not really,’ smirks the compact sex symbol. ’I decided that things like family don’t have a big part to play in my future. I’m dedicated to music, to the point that I see all of life through it.’

violetcrush said:

PennyPurple said:

He was planning marriage in '95...hence giving her the engagement in Oct of 95.

Prince interviewed by Time Out magazine March 1995: * ’Aaaah.’ Big pause. He looks away. All right then. What about marriage, then? Any plans to singlehandedly put Durex out of business by having lots of little s? ’Not really,’ smirks the compact sex symbol. ’I decided that things like family don’t have a big part to play in my future. I’m dedicated to music, to the point that I see all of life through it.’

He might not have been planning to get married when that interview was done in March of 95.

He got married and he had a child.

PennyPurple said:

Or, she was given a ring, then she got pregnant, and then they quickly got married

amethyst68 said:

Of course they announced the pregnancy in April. It was two months after the wedding date and she would be starting to show. She would have only been 1 month pregnant in HI if she had conceived in January, so why wouldn’t she be able to perform?? I didn’t even start to show until my 5th month - barely showing, and I felt great the first month. No reason for her not to perform and any Dr would have told her that.
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Again, the due date they gave to the press was always mid November, which lines up with conceiving in February. Then the baby was born in mid October and the press was told she delivered 3 weeks early. Then she stated on camera that she carried to term, which aligns with conception in January.

violetcrush said:

PennyPurple said:

He might not have been planning to get married when that interview was done in March of 95.

He got married and he had a child.

Or, she was given a ring, then she got pregnant, and then they quickly got married

He was planning the wedding in December, which just blows your timeline above out of the water.

PennyPurple said:

Where is there proof of that??

violetcrush said:

That seems logical. No smart phones or "interwebs" back then to document all of the details, which is why princevault.com is so impressive. That group is meticulous with the detailed history.

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You do realize that fans have been posting extensive track lists of concerts for decades, right? Also: plenty of those lists are based on illicit recordings.

BartVanHemelen said:

Yes, of course. I do know this, but that doesn’t mean Mayte was going back and listening to the Nude Tour bootlegs or checking princevault.com - even for her book. She should have, but I doubt that she did. Her ghost writer or editor/publisher should have fact checked that as well, but I guess they didn’t bother.
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I question more her story that she heard an “Egyptian” sound or style in the video, because I don’t see or hear that at all. He and his backup dancers were doing their own funky moves in the video that had nothing to do with belly dancing, and there was no Egyptian sound to it. He did add the Egyptian intro to the song on the D & P tour, which obviously was done to incorporate her style, but he was not doing it on the Nude tour.

Mumio said:

No kidding eh? For gods sake, give it a rest.

Empress said:

Mumio said:

No kidding eh? For gods sake, give it a rest.

Prince-related discussion forums

^^^^ Title above the Forums list.

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Thread Topic + various viewpoints + new or supported information = Discussion

Mumio said:

No kidding eh? For gods sake, give it a rest.

Just to be clear from my own point of view, I am completely fine with the discussion currently going on. All I indicated with my post is that I am here for the tea

Mumio said:

No kidding eh? For gods sake, give it a rest.

Just to be clear from my own point of view, I am completely fine with the discussion currently going on. All I indicated with my post is that I am here for the tea

Thanks Mumio. Appreciate the clarification

violetcrush said:

My point is that a pregnancy wasn’t the reason Prince and Mayte were married. You’ve hijacked a thread about Mayte’s book with your obsession. It was the last show he did in Japan right after his publicist or right before his publicist released the wedding announcement. January 17. You can hear him loud and clear telling the audience the next time you see me I will be a married man, right before telling Mayte he loved her while on stage. Susannah’s engagement to Prince was not in national magazines. It was in tabloids and she was never photographed wearing her engagement ring nor interviewed about her engagement.

He was lamenting over Kim Basinger when he wrote TMBGITW????? Someone should tell Ricky Peterson, the song’s co-producer, because he still showing photos of Mayte when he performs the song. He didn’t get the memo. Prince wrote and released an album of mostly love songs inspired by Mayte in 1992 but in 1993 TMBGITW was about Kim. Ahhhh okay.
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Peep this...when a man loves his women he will tell the whole world. I don’t believe that nonsense about keeping your relationship private. You got something to hide or you’re not feeling too comfortable about it if you do. Most men I know who who really love and adore their woman can’t him but flaunt her, brag about her, put the spotlight on her. Prince wasn’t any different.

Page 180; 3rd paragraph 7/25/1995 was when Prince asked Mayte to marry him.

Page 206 explains the birth in Oct. the Dr. wanted to do a C-Section on 10/16 and even gave Mayte a shot to help the baby's lungs mature a little faster since he was going to be early.

amethyst68 said:

Peep this...when a man loves his women he will tell the whole world. I don’t believe that nonsense about keeping your relationship private. You got something to hide or you’re not feeling too comfortable about it if you do. Most men I know who who really love and adore their woman can’t him but flaunt her, brag about her, put the spotlight on her. Prince wasn’t any different.

He even wore the wedding ring she got him, before they were married because he couldn't wait.

amethyst68 said:

violetcrush said:

She could have conceived on any day in January for an October due date. So, if they’re on tour that means they can’t can’t have sex and conceive a child?? * Please point me to the specific show that Prince announced he was getting married. I’ve never heard that stated before, but even if he did that did not mean a wedding would happen. Heck, his engagement to Susannah was written in national magazines and it did not happen. But, he was much younger and she was not pregnant [Edited 8/26/19 19:03pm]

My point is that a pregnancy wasn’t the reason Prince and Mayte were married. You’ve hijacked a thread about Mayte’s book with your obsession. It was the last show he did in Japan right after his publicist or right before his publicist released the wedding announcement. January 17. You can hear him loud and clear telling the audience the next time you see me I will be a married man, right before telling Mayte he loved her while on stage. Susannah’s engagement to Prince was not in national magazines. In was in tabloids and she was never photographed wearing her engagement ring nor interviewed about her engagement. He was lamenting over Kim Basinger when he wrote TMBGITW????? Someone should tell Ricky Peterson, the song’s co-producer, because he still showing photos of Mayte when he performs the song. He didn’t get the memo. Prince wrote and released an album of mostly love songs inspired by Mayte in 1992 but in 1993 TMBGITW was about Kim. Ahhhh okay. [Edited 8/27/19 16:56pm] [Edited 8/27/19 17:07pm]

No obsession at all, and this thread topic is about how Mayte tells a different story in her book than what has been listed on princevault.com for years regarding the setlist at his Nude tour concert that she attended. For years there was embellishment and multiple stories by both Prince and Mayte about how they actually met at his concert in order to create that mystique and drama about their relationship - driven by Prince, and Mayte followed along with it, because that is what his girlfriends/wives had to do.

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I actually supported the fact (see page 1) that she may have inadvertantly mixed up seeing the TITT video instead of him performing the song. YOU came on here with guns blazing (are you Mayte or a relative??) about how princevault is not very accurate, and that Prince played a medely of songs that night blah, blah blah. The group that started and has maintained that site are meticulous Prince historians, and were around WAY before Mayte entered the scene. So, I'm gonna hedge my bets on them knowing what Prince performed that night vs. a 16 yr old girl dragged to the concert by her Mother (her words) who probably couldn't have named Prince's first three albums to save her life.

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PLEASE go back and listen to the Stars-n-Bars concert May 1994. Prince is literally calling out Kim Basinger by all but stating her name during that show. The fact is, TMBGITW could have been written for any number of women during that time. The song is actually about a woman who is shy and her beauty shines from the inside ("baby that kind of beauty got no reason to be shy, that kind of beauty comes from inside...) Mayte was far from "shy" - have ya watched the videos of her stage dancing? Close to soft porn. Mayte inherited the song when they got married. So, you think the is all a love letter to Mayte?? Nah. Many songs have nothing to do with their relationship. 3 Chains O Gold is about a woman he lost ("If I don't think about the fact that she left me, if I don't see the pearls fall from the sky...") Many songs about straight up casual sex and also songs about his struggles (My Name Is Prince and Sacrifice Of Victor)

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Interesting that you state that Prince's announcement on stage about the marriage happened on January 17th and it was just before his publicist put out the story. Hmmmm, that seems to line up with the same timeline I was referring to in my earlier posts. If she had a positive pregnancy test in early to mid January then the rush to get it planned and get the announcement out would make perfect sense.

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As far as Susannah's engagement is concerned - I don't care what magazine carried the story, because it was a NATIONAL publication on EVERY newstand, AND it was also accurate. If you need to see Susannah with the ring on her finger take a look at the following video links -

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Anotherloverholeinyohead Video - stop at 1:24 mark - can't miss the big sparkly rock on the left ring finger

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc99JK9gHDk

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The Family 1st Avenue show August 1985 (right after he proposed) - again, can't miss the huge ring on her finger at the 4:32 mark during NC2U:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8yIYjNzrew

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And here is a picture of her taken by the amazing Jeff Katz showing the ring on her finger:

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