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Reply #570 posted 09/14/19 12:28am

rdhull said:

feeluupp said:

It's time for ROD to be banned, it's time...

lol

He seems to be really losing it
He’s doubling down HARD on EVERYTHING since he was found wrong about 1999 being released

I was found right on so many topics here that I don't care.
I m a Prince fan, so if tomorrow they release 1999 deluxe, I m delighted, I m not crying, I m not desperate.
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You are obsessed with me, that is interesting. In fact your behaviour and posts makes me laugh! Keep insulting me, keep showing you are a no life and no other interest beside being obsessed by me.

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Reply #571 posted 09/14/19 12:31am

feeluupp said:

It's time for ROD to be banned, it's time...

This is also interesting...
You send me PM pressing me to reassure you Originals is a success, to make topics etc. To ask me information s, and now you piss me off?
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Again, a new instance of an impolite no life.

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Reply #572 posted 09/14/19 12:48am

BartVanHemelen said:

RODSERLING said:

What you all seem to ignore is that WB had the choice to release a real HD concert. Because, yes, many concerts of Prince and other multimillion selling artists were shot on F.I.L.M.

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Go on then, tell us which 1999 gig was filmed on film.

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. Ever heard about Live at first avenue 83 ? .

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Where do you even get this?

Some instances :
Live at first avenue 83 was shot on film.
7 march 1982 show at Bloomington.
7 jilune 1986 at Detroit
Even some gigs of acts that sold like 500.000 albums were shot on film, from the sixties and on
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So with a 1999 album selling 2/3 millions in a few months, this is unbelievable that some shows weren't protected on film. Especially when you know that in 1983 they prepared the movie Purple Rain.
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It s like with MJ. Sony could release great HD concerts from All eras, including the Jacksons tour and even the J5!
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The problem is that :
1) sometimes they can't locate the tapes
2) they won't pay the price to the owner of the tapes
3) they won't pay the price to remaster it in full HD, because it could cost millions.

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Reply #573 posted 09/14/19 1:38am

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RODSERLING said:
BartVanHemelen said:

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Where do you even get this?

Some instances : Live at first avenue 83 was shot on film. 7 march 1982 show at Bloomington. 7 jilune 1986 at Detroit Even some gigs of acts that sold like 500.000 albums were shot on film, from the sixties and on . So with a 1999 album selling 2/3 millions in a few months, this is unbelievable that some shows weren't protected on film. Especially when you know that in 1983 they prepared the movie Purple Rain. . It s like with MJ. Sony could release great HD concerts from All eras, including the Jacksons tour and even the J5! . The problem is that : 1) sometimes they can't locate the tapes 2) they won't pay the price to the owner of the tapes 3) they won't pay the price to remaster it in full HD, because it could cost millions.

Are these tapes of film?

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Reply #574 posted 09/14/19 1:40am

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udo said:

Why was the purple sky omitted from the cover?

FFS the deceased singer even mentions that sky in `1999`.

The album in the set still has the purple cover, they changed it for the box cover.

RIP

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Reply #575 posted 09/14/19 2:44am

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TheEnglishGent said:

udo said:

Why was the purple sky omitted from the cover?

FFS the deceased singer even mentions that sky in `1999`.

The album in the set still has the purple cover, they changed it for the box cover.

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Was that picture shot on film or tape? lol

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Reply #576 posted 09/14/19 3:10am

TheEnglishGent said:

RODSERLING said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Where do you even get this?

Some instances : Live at first avenue 83 was shot on film. 7 march 1982 show at Bloomington. 7 jilune 1986 at Detroit Even some gigs of acts that sold like 500.000 albums were shot on film, from the sixties and on . So with a 1999 album selling 2/3 millions in a few months, this is unbelievable that some shows weren't protected on film. Especially when you know that in 1983 they prepared the movie Purple Rain. . It s like with MJ. Sony could release great HD concerts from All eras, including the Jacksons tour and even the J5! . The problem is that : 1) sometimes they can't locate the tapes 2) they won't pay the price to the owner of the tapes 3) they won't pay the price to remaster it in full HD, because it could cost millions.

Are these tapes of film?

Yes, that s the point ! Film = HD release possible = remastered picture

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Reply #577 posted 09/14/19 4:14am

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I like the way they changed the artwork to silver on the deluxe version, especially since the inner LP cover is still purple.

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Reply #578 posted 09/14/19 4:23am

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IstenSzek said:

TwiliteKid said:

Moonbeam Levels has been released, so I think they're counting the 12 tracks from the Detroit show. Bit misleading.

ooh, good catch! a bit misleading, indeed. but not an outright lie, i guess

Yes, but the "Moonbeam Levels (2019 Remaster)" has never been released! lol

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Reply #579 posted 09/14/19 4:33am

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IstenSzek said:

Vannormal said:

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I wonder why they didn't contacted the original THEN bandmembers of The Revolution for this package ?

They toured with him for at least 2 months, etc...

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I'm sure BOBBY Z has a lot of inside information on this,

not to mention Lisa, Dr. Fink, Dez, even Wendy at some level.

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Sort of a misser ?

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Money ?

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yeah, as opposed to the total random (at least to me) inclusion of liner notes by Duff from Guns n Roses

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They did something similar with Diamonds & Pearls, where they got quotes from people like Anthony Kiedes from RHCP and others who weren't in "Prince's orbit".

I like that they have Duff McKagan on there. He's a confessed Superfan like Questlove. Would you rather have a Questlove essay? Not saying it's a bad thing, but he seems like the lazy "go-to" for this stuff.

I wouldn't even mind an intro from the family, to be honest. Maybe a paragraph from each of the siblings . . . what they were thinking as their brother was shooting to superstardom and showing up on MTV?

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Reply #580 posted 09/14/19 5:17am

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Se7en said:

IstenSzek said:

yeah, as opposed to the total random (at least to me) inclusion of liner notes by Duff from Guns n Roses

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[Edited 9/13/19 6:52am]

They did something similar with Diamonds & Pearls, where they got quotes from people like Anthony Kiedes from RHCP and others who weren't in "Prince's orbit".

I like that they have Duff McKagan on there. He's a confessed Superfan like Questlove. Would you rather have a Questlove essay? Not saying it's a bad thing, but he seems like the lazy "go-to" for this stuff.

I wouldn't even mind an intro from the family, to be honest. Maybe a paragraph from each of the siblings . . . what they were thinking as their brother was shooting to superstardom and showing up on MTV?

exactly. that, or members of the revolution or other people who were around him, either
on stage, in the studio or even in the bedroom at that time.

i would love to read essays by questlove or duff mckagan in magazines or on websites,
sure, but as a permanent part of such a boxset, i find it weird that they would include
such pieces instead of quotes from people who were there, back then.

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps

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Reply #581 posted 09/14/19 5:27am

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Se7en said:

I like the way they changed the artwork to silver on the deluxe version, especially since the inner LP cover is still purple.

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was doing the Purple Rain tour eye

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'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream." prince

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Reply #582 posted 09/14/19 5:47am

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Se7en said:

I like the way they changed the artwork to silver on the deluxe version, especially since the inner LP cover is still purple.

Yeah, I like that too. Have fun and make a groovy new outer box, but preserve the original art on the album jacket itself. cool

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Reply #583 posted 09/14/19 6:43am

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VaultCurator said:

TheEnglishGent said:

The album in the set still has the purple cover, they changed it for the box cover.

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Was that picture shot on film or tape?

falloff

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Reply #584 posted 09/14/19 7:25am

Se7en said:

IstenSzek said:

Vannormal said:

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I wonder why they didn't contacted the original THEN bandmembers of The Revolution for this package ?

They toured with him for at least 2 months, etc...

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I'm sure BOBBY Z has a lot of inside information on this,

not to mention Lisa, Dr. Fink, Dez, even Wendy at some level.

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Sort of a misser ?

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Money ?

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yeah, as opposed to the total random (at least to me) inclusion of liner notes by Duff from Guns n Roses

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They did something similar with Diamonds & Pearls, where they got quotes from people like Anthony Kiedes from RHCP and others who weren't in "Prince's orbit".

I like that they have Duff McKagan on there. He's a confessed Superfan like Questlove. Would you rather have a Questlove essay? Not saying it's a bad thing, but he seems like the lazy "go-to" for this stuff.

I wouldn't even mind an intro from the family, to be honest. Maybe a paragraph from each of the siblings . . . what they were thinking as their brother was shooting to superstardom and showing up on MTV?

Yep it's called marketing and quite a smart thing to do. Having quotes from members of the Prince band would be interesting to us but the general public couldn't care less. There is a chance, small small chance, but a chance nonetheless that a fan of Guns N Roses might pick this set up because this guy is quoted. PLUS it is giving Prince kudos from supposedly unexpected folks and saying "Prince was the musicians musician" etc

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Reply #585 posted 09/14/19 7:31am

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VaultCurator said:

TheEnglishGent said:

The album in the set still has the purple cover, they changed it for the box cover.

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Was that picture shot on film or tape?

Sorry, I didn't have a chance to get it remasterized.

RIP

sad

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Reply #586 posted 09/14/19 7:41am

Also on this whole video vs film etc debate. Jeez guys I wish everyone would cool their jets. It is actually pretty simple.

Some concerts were shot on film (either 35mm or 16mm - each of which will look different). During the 80s it was common to shoot higher budget pop "videos" on 16mm film and big budget on 35mm film (because it cost a lot more). Cheap videos were shot on, well video!

And here is the crunch.

When shooting on video PROFESSIONALLY they used professional video formats. Older formats include U-Matic then BetaCam.

Only domestic / home viewing formats used VHS (or early 80s the far superior Betamax - that evolved into Betacam).

So if a concert was shot for broadcast on TV they would probably have shot on Betacam or U-Matic. They MIGHT have shot some on film but that was more expense.

Whatever format something was shot on, if it was intended for home viewing/release in the 80s then it would have to be transferred to video (if shot on film) to make master copies for mass production. Whether something was edited on film or video probably depended on budget and end goal (release format - so if cinema then edited on film and master version on film).

Perhaps SOME of the confusion for SOME folks (not all, many here are very well informed) is that Prince ALSO shot all of his concerts so he could watch the them back and check out the performance. Prince would not have professionally shot these. He would simply have had the crew set up video cameras (recording on VHS - like any home video camera). Even in the 00s I could see this set up at the mixing desk (single camera straight on to the stage).

For the estate and WB (or whoever in future) to release DVDs/Blue Ray (whatever) of concert footage ALL they can do is go back to the format the concert was shot on (assuming that footage still exists/can be located). Failing that they will go to the next format that they can locate.

And then here is the next crunch - film and video stock deteriorates over time. It needs to be kept in special environmental conditions. We know there were problems with the Vault at PP so EVEN IF a concert had been shot on film it might not be useable anymore. That would force them to use the best version available.

Seriously, it ain't that hard a concept.

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Reply #587 posted 09/14/19 9:07am

I did not know Duff McKagan was a Prince connoisseur,
I have read 2 books authored by him, do not remember him writing on Prince,
I did enjoy his writing. And I am NOT a guns and Rose fan.
I’d rather have Duff than Quest, yes.

Does it ‘help’ if I buy from Prince official site as opposed to Amazon, the price is currently the same.

Perhaps the biography book release will help market 1999 release this Fall.
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Reply #588 posted 09/14/19 9:44am

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Why is there no alternative version (not released before) of 1999 on the deluxe sets?

I mean: a mono edit. Please explain the historical significance of this version to faNs if you can.

On the 1999 live version of the Summit: you can see that Prince was quite in happy mood.

Backgrounds always welcome.

Also: I looked at google maps for the Summiit:

Closed, etc. But could it really hold 10.000 people (as mentioned on princevaul for the show date)?

I mean: for 10.000 in Rotterdam you need the Rotterdam Ahoy. a building of different proportions.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.

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Reply #589 posted 09/14/19 10:26am

((found this))

Duff McKagan has continually expressed his unabashed love for Prince and his music. Saying things such as:
“I have been a die-hard Prince fan since the early ’80s. When Controversy came out in 1981, a punker friend of mine in Seattle demanded that I listen to it. Prince was unlike anyone else. When 1999 came out in 1982, the record transformed my insides.”

Duff even credits Prince for inspiring him to follow his dreams of becoming a rock star.
“When Purple Rain hit, I was free and starting to take life by the balls. That record was the soundtrack to my life and gave me the confidence to move to L.A. at 19, with nothing more than belief in myself. Prince’s music can do that.”

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Reply #590 posted 09/14/19 10:36am

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Duff on Prince:

https://www.youtube.com/w...uX76qio7ww

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Reply #591 posted 09/14/19 1:08pm

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I am super-psyched for this special edition... I've already pre-ordered it. But I just now saw the packaging:

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Prince / 1999 5CD+DVD box set

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Look at that! A box with a slip-cover... different photos on the CD and DVD sleeves... the graphics... Man, that's an impressive deluxe set. I can't wait to get my hands on it.

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But... I hate to sound like an unappreciative fan, but... couldn't they have done something like this for "Purple Rain"? "1999" is a great and important album, to be sure, but... I mean, c'mon: "PURPLE RAIN"! There wasn't more they could have done vault-wise and packaging-wise? If it was because they needed more time to go through the Vault material, then I could have waited another year or two. Again, I don't mean to whine... just pondering the whys and hows.

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All I know is: they better do something this impressive for "Sign 'O' The Times"!!!

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Reply #592 posted 09/14/19 1:20pm

TheFman	1999 is probably my fav P album, but no way im buying this mess. Im even very turned off by this uncoherent and uncomplete 'collection'. But hard to win me over in the first place, as i very dislike 'remasters'. Dont mess with originals, but that was discussed already before...
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Reply #593 posted 09/14/19 1:35pm

TheFman said:

1999 is probably my fav P album, but no way im buying this mess. Im even very turned off by this uncoherent and uncomplete 'collection'.

But hard to win me over in the first place, as i very dislike 'remasters'. Dont mess with originals, but that was discussed already before...

Stop it, you're making my eyes hurt from rolling so hard.

I placed my order for the Super Deluxe vinyl edition with my record store today. £184.00. Ah well.

We live once.

I'm very excited for this.

To the earlier comment about why they didn't do something this comprehensive for Purple Rain - I'll be the Estate/Warners now wish they had!

Purple Rain was really their first foray into this with Prince's work. And what with vinyl now being 'a thing' again, it seems logical to release everything on vinyl - it didn't seem that logical to do that even as recently as 2017.... I wish they had released everything - and more - on vinyl!

But then there's always the 40th Anniversay Super Deluxe Edition to look forward to! lol

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Reply #594 posted 09/14/19 1:41pm

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Rimshottbob said:

To the earlier comment about why they didn't do something this comprehensive for Purple Rain - I'll be the Estate/Warners now wish they had!

It should be remembered too that they thought they were gonna include 1st Ave '83, that would have upped the appeal considerably...

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Reply #595 posted 09/14/19 1:51pm

MIInsane	As a fan of both Prince and Guns 'N Roses, Duff's love for Prince has been common knowledge. I'm actually happy that he is penning some liner notes for the reissue. It'll be cool for non-GNR fans to see his appreciation. Plus, he did a kickass cover of "Bambi", which isn't to be found anywhere on YouTube.
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Reply #596 posted 09/14/19 2:24pm

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MIInsane said:

As a fan of both Prince and Guns 'N Roses, Duff's love for Prince has been common knowledge. I'm actually happy that he is penning some liner notes for the reissue. It'll be cool for non-GNR fans to see his appreciation.

Plus, he did a kickass cover of "Bambi", which isn't to be found anywhere on YouTube.

As well as the cache Duff has to get some gnr fans who aren’t already Prince fans to check him out

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Reply #597 posted 09/14/19 3:56pm

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eyewishuheaven said:

Rimshottbob said:

To the earlier comment about why they didn't do something this comprehensive for Purple Rain - I'll be the Estate/Warners now wish they had!

It should be remembered too that they thought they were gonna include 1st Ave '83, that would have upped the appeal considerably...

Still don't understand why they didn't...

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Reply #598 posted 09/14/19 4:04pm

MIInsane said:

As a fan of both Prince and Guns 'N Roses, Duff's love for Prince has been common knowledge. I'm actually happy that he is penning some liner notes for the reissue. It'll be cool for non-GNR fans to see his appreciation.

Plus, he did a kickass cover of "Bambi", which isn't to be found anywhere on YouTube.

well it wasn’t common knowledge to me, and I read his 2 books, therefore he must not have gone into too much on his 2 authored books.

Why is it this place is always ‘I know more than you’ or ‘Duh common knowledge’
‘I was the one he REALLY loved’ (lol)

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Reply #599 posted 09/14/19 5:47pm

mnfriend said:
MIInsane said:

As a fan of both Prince and Guns 'N Roses, Duff's love for Prince has been common knowledge. I'm actually happy that he is penning some liner notes for the reissue. It'll be cool for non-GNR fans to see his appreciation.

Plus, he did a kickass cover of "Bambi", which isn't to be found anywhere on YouTube.

well it wasn’t common knowledge to me, and I read his 2 books, therefore he must not have gone into too much on his 2 authored books. Why is it this place is always ‘I know more than you’ or ‘Duh common knowledge’ ‘I was the one he REALLY loved’ (lol)

I guess I should have specified that in Guns 'N Roses "fandom" it is common knowledge.

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