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AZStreet

Per Nilsen DMSR book

I have been looking for this book for a while now But all copies that are selling online are over $150. Is that what the original price was when it came out? Or are sellers trying to milk it. Kinda crazy. One with tape is selling for $60.

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Reply #1 posted 07/11/19 4:07pm

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OG price was about $20
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Reply #2 posted 07/11/19 7:10pm

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Yes, I got it for about $20 when it first came out. Sellers are milking it because it's rare and demand went up after P's passing.

I once found the email address of a Per Nilsen living in Minnesota. I thought it was the author and wrote to ask if he'd consider reissuing it as an ebook. The guy wrote me back and said he was the wrong Per Nilsen.



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Reply #3 posted 07/11/19 7:20pm

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Per tried to sell me a copy of The Vault for $150. He was greedy "trying to get rid of copies sitting on his desk". I said no thanks.

Check Amazon used, an "Acceptable" copy is $50. Also check used sections of Barnes & Noble online. There are other bookstores online that resell stuff. There's one in NYC that's huge - I can't think of it off hand. You can google it.

DMSR is a good read. It left me wanting more. Too bad he never followed up with anything.

I've yet to find any sort of PDF or eBook of The Vault. There's one out there, that's huge in file size, and is unreadable scans of the pages. Worthless.

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Reply #4 posted 07/11/19 9:02pm

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One of my favorite Prince biographies!
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Reply #5 posted 07/12/19 2:21am

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Unfortunately I used to have it. Over the years a lot of my Prince memorabilia has regrettably either been cleared out or donated to good will. I kept all my CDs and videos, but not much else. If by some miracle it turns up I'll happily mail it on to you as I'd much rather give it to a fan who'd appreciate it, but I'm convinced I don't have it anymore. Sorry bud.

From what I remember it contained a lot of the legendary stories which are now common knowledge amongst fans such as accounts of the night Prince pulled the Black LP, or the time he erased Wally. Fortunately, other than that, a lot of the actually information it contained such as cataloguing his recordings and various projects he worked on are all up on princevault.com (which has been a God send for me recently). I know it's not the same as a tangible book that you can kick back and take it, but please don't feel as if you're missing out on much.

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Reply #6 posted 07/12/19 5:15am

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"He was greedy"... I'd say supply and demand. I have 3-4 copies of The Vault left, not "trying to get rid of copies sitting on his desk". Per

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Reply #7 posted 07/12/19 5:42am

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pernil said:

"He was greedy"... I'd say supply and demand. I have 3-4 copies of The Vault left, not "trying to get rid of copies sitting on his desk". Per


I have DMSR. How is The Vault different?

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Reply #8 posted 07/12/19 9:54am

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pernil said:

"He was greedy"... I'd say supply and demand. I have 3-4 copies of The Vault left, not "trying to get rid of copies sitting on his desk". Per


That's what you said to me. I don't blame you for selling a book. But I distinctly remember you approaching me (possibly here) to buy one for $150. And that you had a few copies on your desk. I just think the price was high, not the idea of selling in general. Peace 2 u.

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Reply #9 posted 07/12/19 10:12am

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AZStreet said:

I have been looking for this book for a while now But all copies that are selling online are over $150. Is that what the original price was when it came out? Or are sellers trying to milk it. Kinda crazy. One with tape is selling for $60.


It's called supply and demand, sweetie. On this one, the supply is tight and the demand is high (because the book is out of print) - hence the price. Up to you to decide whether it's worth it or not.

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Reply #10 posted 07/12/19 11:04am

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TrivialPursuit said:

pernil said:

"He was greedy"... I'd say supply and demand. I have 3-4 copies of The Vault left, not "trying to get rid of copies sitting on his desk". Per


That's what you said to me. I don't blame you for selling a book. But I distinctly remember you approaching me (possibly here) to buy one for $150. And that you had a few copies on your desk. I just think the price was high, not the idea of selling in general. Peace 2 u.

You basically repeated what you said the first time. We get it. Of course, and someone has to ask it, what were you smoking when you decided $150 for The Vault book was too high (even back then, when the two of you must have spoken)?

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Reply #11 posted 07/12/19 11:31am

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I got one about 6 months ago for about $60. It was listed at $80 but they had a discount and I used another discout to get aboiut 30% off

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Reply #12 posted 07/12/19 11:33am

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lurker316 said:

pernil said:

"He was greedy"... I'd say supply and demand. I have 3-4 copies of The Vault left, not "trying to get rid of copies sitting on his desk". Per


I have DMSR. How is The Vault different?

the vault is more of a list of songs and appearances and whatnot. Not much of a narrative.

Being a die-hard civil rights champion,
Being a die-hard libertarian,
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Reply #13 posted 07/12/19 12:31pm

TrivialPursuit

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pricetag said:

TrivialPursuit said:


That's what you said to me. I don't blame you for selling a book. But I distinctly remember you approaching me (possibly here) to buy one for $150. And that you had a few copies on your desk. I just think the price was high, not the idea of selling in general. Peace 2 u.

You basically repeated what you said the first time. We get it. Of course, and someone has to ask it, what were you smoking when you decided $150 for The Vault book was too high (even back then, when the two of you must have spoken)?


I realize what I said. I typed it.

I wouldn't even pay $150 for a book Prince put out himself. How many people bought 21 Nights for $5 at Borders thinking they could resell it for $50 a pop, and couldn't? The Vault has great 411, no doubt. Per did his homework. But $150 for a book is ridiculous, especially years after the fact. Things are higher in price when they first come out. They shouldn't be that price eons down the road.

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http://bit.ly/1D3FG2U
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Reply #14 posted 07/12/19 1:01pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

pricetag said:

You basically repeated what you said the first time. We get it. Of course, and someone has to ask it, what were you smoking when you decided $150 for The Vault book was too high (even back then, when the two of you must have spoken)?


I realize what I said. I typed it.

I wouldn't even pay $150 for a book Prince put out himself. How many people bought 21 Nights for $5 at Borders thinking they could resell it for $50 a pop, and couldn't? The Vault has great 411, no doubt. Per did his homework. But $150 for a book is ridiculous, especially years after the fact. Things are higher in price when they first come out. They shouldn't be that price eons down the road.

sounds flakey for an author to sell his own book for that much but that isn't outrageous for rare books, i once sold an old boxing training book for 500 bucks, of course, today, with the internet, my buyer has probably kicked himself since it's all online for free. Pers was being greedy, not a good look, if he wants more money, do more great work the first one is right up there with the best prince books ever done.

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Reply #15 posted 07/12/19 1:31pm

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The DMSR book is fantastic.I still have my copy.

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Reply #16 posted 07/12/19 2:26pm

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There are two versions of DMSR. One is dated 2001 and the other is dated 2003. Can someone explain the difference between the two versions? It appears from the page counts that one is quite a bit longer than the other. Thanks!

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Reply #17 posted 07/12/19 4:00pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

lurker316 said:

I have DMSR. How is The Vault different?

the vault is more of a list of songs and appearances and whatnot. Not much of a narrative.


Yeah, the back matter chronology in DMSR is what The Vault is overall, mostly. It's surely a great reference guide. I wish Princevault would compile everything like that up through the end of this year. I ain't paying $150 for that either, but I'd pay more than a normal reference book you'd find at B&N or something.

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Reply #18 posted 07/12/19 4:43pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

pricetag said:

You basically repeated what you said the first time. We get it. Of course, and someone has to ask it, what were you smoking when you decided $150 for The Vault book was too high (even back then, when the two of you must have spoken)?


I realize what I said. I typed it.

I wouldn't even pay $150 for a book Prince put out himself. How many people bought 21 Nights for $5 at Borders thinking they could resell it for $50 a pop, and couldn't? The Vault has great 411, no doubt. Per did his homework. But $150 for a book is ridiculous, especially years after the fact. Things are higher in price when they first come out. They shouldn't be that price eons down the road.

You over-realized it. Which, of course, is the point you missed.

The rest of what you say is opinion so not worth responding to. Only poor people say $150 is too much for a book, especially when they chose to ignore, or are ignorant of, supply and demand. Next.

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Reply #19 posted 07/12/19 5:36pm

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Wanted DMSR since reading excerpts on Amazon! Wish it were still in print.
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Reply #20 posted 07/12/19 9:49pm

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I managed to snag an unread and near perfect copy from an estate sale auction on eBay for $60.

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Reply #21 posted 07/12/19 10:12pm

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I managed to snag an unread and near perfect copy from an estate sale auction on eBay for $60.

Great. My copy is straight from the publisher. Still in original packaging. Near Mint copy. $50

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Reply #22 posted 07/13/19 3:41am

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lurker316 said:

pernil said:

"He was greedy"... I'd say supply and demand. I have 3-4 copies of The Vault left, not "trying to get rid of copies sitting on his desk". Per


I have DMSR. How is The Vault different?

The Vault went up to the present day of publishing, which I think was around Musicology era(?)

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It is more of a reference thn a narrative, with a chronological diary approach. PrinceVault.com performs much the same function today with the benefit of being online and more upto date, expanded obviously.

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Reply #23 posted 07/13/19 5:29am

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Wanted DMSR since reading excerpts on Amazon! Wish it were still in print.


I’ve got no spares on my desk but I believe Trivial may be able to get hold of one for around $250
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Reply #24 posted 07/15/19 8:21am

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I got one for $25 but that was before Prince passed...

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Reply #25 posted 07/15/19 1:01pm

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I got one for $25 but that was before Prince passed...

i paid less than five bucks for mine at a goodwill or used book store, can't remember, the jon bream book was the same, less than five bucks. if you go as consistent as I do to used stores you'd catch deals like that.

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Reply #26 posted 07/15/19 2:48pm

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PeteSilas said:

purplethunder3121 said:

I got one for $25 but that was before Prince passed...

i paid less than five bucks for mine at a goodwill or used book store, can't remember, the jon bream book was the same, less than five bucks. if you go as consistent as I do to used stores you'd catch deals like that.

Shudder to think what condition these books were in, though. How much excrement did they have on them?

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Reply #27 posted 07/15/19 3:01pm

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PeteSilas said:

i paid less than five bucks for mine at a goodwill or used book store, can't remember, the jon bream book was the same, less than five bucks. if you go as consistent as I do to used stores you'd catch deals like that.

Shudder to think what condition these books were in, though. How much excrement did they have on them?

why would you say that? they are in normal/fair condition, most used books aren't really that used, most people don't even read the books they buy, I think 90 percent of the books I have I don't read, don't have the time. of course that's not the case for prince books, many of them i've read multiple times.

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Reply #28 posted 07/16/19 6:14am

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Per tried to sell me a copy of The Vault for $150. He was greedy "trying to get rid of copies sitting on his desk". I said no thanks.

Check Amazon used, an "Acceptable" copy is $50. Also check used sections of Barnes & Noble online. There are other bookstores online that resell stuff. There's one in NYC that's huge - I can't think of it off hand. You can google it.

DMSR is a good read. It left me wanting more. Too bad he never followed up with anything.

I've yet to find any sort of PDF or eBook of The Vault. There's one out there, that's huge in file size, and is unreadable scans of the pages. Worthless.

There's one perfectly readable version out there, too nod

But un4tunately no one scanned DMSR yet.

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Reply #29 posted 07/16/19 9:27am

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databank said:

TrivialPursuit said:

I've yet to find any sort of PDF or eBook of The Vault. There's one out there, that's huge in file size, and is unreadable scans of the pages. Worthless.

There's one perfectly readable version out there, too nod

But un4tunately no one scanned DMSR yet.


Well that's one I'd like to find. Being a technical sort nerd about stuff, I feel like The Vault would be right up my alley. And yeah, I've not seen DMSR out there yet, but I have a hard copy anyway. I've never had a reason to look for one.

Back around Y2K, I had photocopied the back section of DMSR just because I wanted something easier to access and read in larger print when referencing a date or whatever. That's about as far of a scan I ever got. haha

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