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Reply #120 posted 06/08/19 2:09pm

Doozer

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OnlyNDaUsa said:



udo said:




OnlyNDaUsa said:





don't you get me? don't forget me? don't you (something) me?



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Yes, but what is the context here?


Why did he say it?


Why was it left there for this release?





I do not know... it is a bit like him saying something about being nervous or worried at the beginning of Father's Song... but he also did that on one of the Cream? mixes? he said "Is everything oay back there?"



That was on the maxi single for New Power Generation.
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Reply #121 posted 06/08/19 2:09pm

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dupe post - deleted
[Edited 6/8/19 14:10pm]
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Reply #122 posted 06/08/19 2:12pm

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EmmaMcG said:

mnfriend said:

I told myself
Stop being an old lady and sign up for Tidal.
And now I can’t get in
and have to wait.


Just download it illegally. That's what I did.


Or wait a month and buy a physical copy. That’s what I’m doing. wink
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Reply #123 posted 06/08/19 2:23pm

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Doozer said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

I do not know... it is a bit like him saying something about being nervous or worried at the beginning of Father's Song... but he also did that on one of the Cream? mixes? he said "Is everything oay back there?"

That was on the maxi single for New Power Generation.

oh yeah at very end of Lubricated Lady! (right?)

cream had the prank phone calls...

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Reply #124 posted 06/08/19 2:24pm

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Loefie said:

EmmaMcG said:
Just download it illegally. That's what I did.
Or wait a month and buy a physical copy. That’s what I’m doing. wink

why not do both?

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Reply #125 posted 06/08/19 2:36pm

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Well that took a good year but PrinceVault finally acknowledged that the version of “NC2U” released in 2018 is NOT the true mix of the original “Prince” version and this version still remains officially unreleased.
[Edited 6/8/19 14:37pm]
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Reply #126 posted 06/08/19 2:58pm

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TheSilentMikey said:

Well that took a good year but PrinceVault finally acknowledged that the version of “NC2U” released in 2018 is NOT the true mix of the original “Prince” version and this version still remains officially unreleased. [Edited 6/8/19 14:37pm]

Wow. I missed this. Who did the post production?

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Reply #127 posted 06/08/19 2:58pm

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Loefie said:

EmmaMcG said:



Just download it illegally. That's what I did.


Or wait a month and buy a physical copy. That’s what I’m doing. wink


I am also going to do that. I had to hear it first though to make sure it was worth buying.
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Reply #128 posted 06/08/19 3:26pm

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EmmaMcG said:

Loefie said:
Or wait a month and buy a physical copy. That’s what I’m doing. wink
I am also going to do that. I had to hear it first though to make sure it was worth buying.

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It is definitely worth buying.
I didn't say this about Purple Rain Deluxe, as I found the fact that they used cassette copies for sourcing such masterpieces as 'Love And Sex' and 'Computer Blue' insulting. But 'Originals' (despite its issues) is a must have. Some of Prince's performances are quite breathtaking and most of the songs sound great too.

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Reply #129 posted 06/08/19 4:04pm

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Only Prince could get me to subscibe to Tidal...and it's worth it!

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Reply #130 posted 06/08/19 4:51pm

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Reply #131 posted 06/08/19 5:15pm

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FUNKNROLL said:



Solid release. They shoulda named the album "Portraits in Pronoun Courage" biggrin



lol lol

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Reply #132 posted 06/08/19 8:21pm

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Se7en said:



ian said:


Really loving this collection so far. Such a shame to have it as Tidal exclusive on June 7th, I'd have loved to go out and buy a physical copy of it today of all days. Anyway, let's hope they do a second volume.




The Estate has written about this quite a few times, about this album wrapping up their legal obligation to TIDAL. It will be interesting to see if they continue to work with TIDAL when they don't legally have to . . .



Hope not. Why folks will not give Jay and Tidal their proper due for releasing the best set post...you know. Wait this is the org, that would be too easy. Say what you want about Jay the guy knows music and did a phenomenal job curating. I mean Love would not have been on the album without him insisting it be. Prince's time on Tidal was the end coming of the NPGMC, we just never got a chance to see it come into full bloom

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Reply #133 posted 06/08/19 8:43pm

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It's amazing how much the vocal on "Jungle Love" is like the one eventually recorded with Morris.

I'm disappointed that Sex Shooter isn't the more aggressive Vanity 6 arrangement (that I guess we already have in decent quality with Vanity's vocal). This one is a close match for the Purple Rain officially released arrangement which is not as cool to my ears.

[Edited 6/9/19 7:46am]

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Reply #134 posted 06/08/19 10:41pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

I learned after reading up on stuff that the guitar solo in "Dear Michaelangelo" was reused in "The Rapture" section of The Scandalous Sex Suite.

Here's one fan's review of the album.



I haven't compared them. But off the top of my head I thought it sounded familiar 👍👍
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Reply #135 posted 06/08/19 11:29pm

Johnytruelove8

Can't believe there are some dislikes for "You're my love".It's so good and unique.I love love love Prince's vocals.
I am extremely impressed with this release and I can't wait to buy it on CD June 21st.I might even get the vinyl.
[Edited 6/8/19 23:32pm]
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Reply #136 posted 06/08/19 11:31pm

Johnytruelove8

Now I am curious about the Target Exclusive of NC2U
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Reply #137 posted 06/09/19 12:05am

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popgodazipa said:

Se7en said:

Hope not. Why folks will not give Jay and Tidal their proper due for releasing the best set post...you know. Wait this is the org, that would be too easy. Say what you want about Jay the guy knows music and did a phenomenal job curating. I mean Love would not have been on the album without him insisting it be.

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LTWBD sticks out like a sore thumb because it doesn't fit with the rest sound-wise.

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And FYI Warners is releasing this set. Tidal simply got a two week streaming exclusive.

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Reply #138 posted 06/09/19 12:11am

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FragileUndertow said:

TrivialPursuit said:

I learned after reading up on stuff that the guitar solo in "Dear Michaelangelo" was reused in "The Rapture" section of The Scandalous Sex Suite.

Here's one fan's review of the album.

I haven't compared them. But off the top of my head I thought it sounded familiar 👍👍

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This has been known for decades. http://www.princevault.co...haelangelo . Here's an org post from 2002: https://prince.org/msg/7/22508 and if you google it you'll get dozens of results.

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Reply #139 posted 06/09/19 12:22am

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BartVanHemelen said:

FragileUndertow said:

TrivialPursuit said: I haven't compared them. But off the top of my head I thought it sounded familiar 👍👍

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This has been known for decades. http://www.princevault.co...haelangelo . Here's an org post from 2002: https://prince.org/msg/7/22508 and if you google it you'll get dozens of results.

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It's not just the guitar, other parts of 'Dear Michaelangelo' were reused for the Scandalous Sex Suite too.

[Edited 6/9/19 0:23am]

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Reply #140 posted 06/09/19 12:55am

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Kares said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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This has been known for decades. http://www.princevault.co...haelangelo . Here's an org post from 2002: https://prince.org/msg/7/22508 and if you google it you'll get dozens of results.

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It's not just the guitar, other parts of 'Dear Michaelangelo' were reused for the Scandalous Sex Suite too.

[Edited 6/9/19 0:23am]

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Which parts? You can't leave us hanging like that. biggrin

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Reply #141 posted 06/09/19 12:57am

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Thank you Neversin and databank for your interesting comments.
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Reply #142 posted 06/09/19 12:58am

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BartVanHemelen said:

FragileUndertow said:

TrivialPursuit said:

I learned after reading up on stuff that the guitar solo in "Dear Michaelangelo" was reused in "The Rapture" section of The Scandalous Sex Suite.

Here's one fan's review of the album.

I haven't compared them. But off the top of my head I thought it sounded familiar 👍👍

This has been known for decades. http://www.princevault.co...haelangelo . Here's an org post from 2002: https://prince.org/msg/7/22508 and if you google it you'll get dozens of results.

Your point? That because something is listed on Princevault, or if there was a thread about it 17 years ago, it should never again be raised in conversation?

The poster didn't claim to have discoverered the fact, just that s/he came across the information, which is relevent to this discussion.

Christ, ease up a little.

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Reply #143 posted 06/09/19 1:06am

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olb99 said:

Kares said:

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It's not just the guitar, other parts of 'Dear Michaelangelo' were reused for the Scandalous Sex Suite too.

[Edited 6/9/19 0:23am]

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Which parts? You can't leave us hanging like that. biggrin

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Those thick, swirling synth parts (bass, pads and some choir- or strings-type of sounds too) throughout the song. Those are the foundations for the extended parts of Scandalous..

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And as I'm just listening to the Scandalous Sex Suite again, I'm thinking about how much of Prince's output we took for granted while he was here and how deeply it must've saddened him when a lot of his releases were dismissed – or even ridiculed – by fans and critics alike for being self-indulgent, while he poured his heart into these absolutely stunning works of art. The Scandalous Sex Suite is an incredible masterpiece.

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[Edited 6/9/19 1:20am]

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Reply #144 posted 06/09/19 1:27am

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Kares said:

olb99 said:

"La plupart étaient disponibles sur des bandes analogiques 1/2 pouces et il s’agissait la plupart du temps de rough mixes. D’autres figuraient sur des cassettes, mais certaines d’entre elles n’étaient pas d’assez bonne qualité d’un point de vue sonore. Nous avons donc réalisé un nouveau mix sur des bandes multipistes en nous basant sur les spécifications de la cassette. Au final, l’auditeur peut donc entendre ce qui figurait sur ces cassettes avec un son optimal."

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Mixdown tapes are 1/4", not 1/2".

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Thanks again for your informative answers. About the tapes: I don't know why it didn't strike me. I work on an archive database and we have 1/2", 1", and 2" multitrack tapes. The 1/4" tapes are stereo, of course. So I don't really understand what Michael Howe is saying: "La plupart étaient disponibles sur des bandes analogiques 1/2 pouces et il s’agissait la plupart du temps de rough mixes" = he's talking about rough mixes and 1/2" tapes in the same sentence. Maybe a problem with the translation from English to French...

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Reply #145 posted 06/09/19 1:33am

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olb99 said:

Kares said:

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Mixdown tapes are 1/4", not 1/2".

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Thanks again for your informative answers. About the tapes: I don't know why it didn't strike me. I work on an archive database and we have 1/2", 1", and 2" multitrack tapes. The 1/4" tapes are stereo, of course. So I don't really understand what Michael Howe is saying: "La plupart étaient disponibles sur des bandes analogiques 1/2 pouces et il s’agissait la plupart du temps de rough mixes" = he's talking about rough mixes and 1/2" tapes in the same sentence. Maybe a problem with the translation from English to French...

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Unfortunately I don't speak French, but I guess the 1/2" is simply a typo. The vast majority of mixdown tapes are 1/4" and we can see these on the police photos taken in Paisley's vault too, but it's not always easy to distinguish the 1/4" and 1/2" tape boxes.

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correction:
It's not a typo, some mixdown tapes are actually 1/2" – as I've just checked in my own Vault-spreadsheet smile (see below). The majority are 1/4" (and that's what most common in the industry) but there are 1/2" ones as well (based on the thickness of the tape boxes).

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Apologies, my mistake.

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Reply #146 posted 06/09/19 5:04am

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just had a little look at the shop at Q magazine and its got 5 stars but the right up is the size of a postage stamp ! same in uncut magazine. Disappointing coverage.

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Reply #147 posted 06/09/19 6:09am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

I'm very greatful for this. Cannot wait to own a physical copy

1. 100MPH: loving the extra guitar work ****
2. Baby You're A Trip: -is cool, never got into before, a good vocal workout, I enjoy hearing Prince singing the 'spoken' part **
3. Dear Michaelangelo: -always loved the song, love hearing the extra instrumentations, loving the drumming/linn. The opening I love, a combination of this and the released version would be perfection *****
4. Gigolos Get Lonely Too -Morris definately did a better job vocally, but this is one of very rare times we hear Prince singing lead on a Time piece ***
5. Holly Rock -never cared for the song so much, but loving this with the extra Minni sound and the use of the Romance 1600 band, it's wilder. I wish he would not have pulled back on the released version *****
6. Jungle Love -eh **
7. Love-Thy Will Be Done -nice, has that airy 90s feel with a touch of Batman-esque
8. Make Up -always loved this one, Susan or Prince great song *****
9. Manic Monday -should have been released through the Prince camp, and this confirms it even more
10. Noon Rendezvous -enjoy the evolution, simple cool ***
11. NC2U -heard before, I like the PR era sound ***
12. Sex Shooter -enjoy the evolution, nothing to shout about ***
13. The Glamorous Life -enjoy the evolution, Sheila E kicks it up 5 notches ***
14. Wouldn't U Love 2 Love Me -I LOVE this, the feel of that 79/80 period with some extra purple electricity and pump *****
15. My Love is 4Ever -I actually appreciate this, feels like a 1977 demo ***

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I don't think Sheila's band is on 'Holly Rock'... that's all Prince. He calls out Steph, etc., but he's done things like that before with The Time. "Terry!"

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Reply #148 posted 06/09/19 6:21am

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Loefie said:

EmmaMcG said:
Just download it illegally. That's what I did.
Or wait a month and buy a physical copy. That’s what I’m doing. wink


Or, download it illegally, then wait 2 weeks (not a month) and buy a physical copy. That's what I'm doing.

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Reply #149 posted 06/09/19 6:27am

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BartVanHemelen said:

popgodazipa said:

Se7en said:

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LTWBD sticks out like a sore thumb because it doesn't fit with the rest sound-wise.

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And FYI Warners is releasing this set. Tidal simply got a two week streaming exclusive.

Wasn't it announced as a joint release?

I believe the CD will have WB & Tidal listed, probably NPG Records as well.

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