violetcrush said:

Krystalkisses said:

I'm taken aback by the defensive tone of your post, were you assuming I was somehow implying his angry feelings were not valid?

I think Benni’s Post was countering yours and muchtoofast’s interpretation that his anger was caused by any issues he had with JW. She was clarifying that Prince’s anger on April 16th was a reaction to the media’s and fans’ response to the Moline incident. He was angry about the rumors and widespread coverage, which makes sense based on the level of privacy he always tried to maintain. * Prince’s anger was not directed at the JW that night. [Edited 5/10/19 8:20am]

Thanks, violet! Exactly!

benni said:

benni said:

Astasheiks said:

‘leave that blood alone’

What song are you referring to or is this a statement made by him at a concert?

Silicon

Welcome 2 the slaughterhouse

Silicon
Rope of silicon
Just a rope of silicon
The rope of silicon

One day U'll get outside the doo-rag
When U really want 2 contemplate this, jacked up (Jacked up)Paranormal situation that your people got into
Can I hip U'
Long ago who considered the outcome'
Now I'm thinking that a cat like U would be troublesome
And sock U in the mind tangling curriculum
Guaranteed 2 leave U in a state of delirium
While all along teaching they kids in the valley 2 become unlike U:
broke and dumb

Just a rope of silicon
Rope of silicon
Just a rope of silicon
Rope of silicon

On a magical rope of silicon
U can bet that they'll be chillin' in Babylon
Thinking about a way that they can split the proton
While U eating all the bloody chicken and dead prawn
Mickey D. shake and a filet mignon
Swearing up and down U the picture of health, now come on!

Just a rope of silicon (Dance)
Just a rope of silicon
Rope of silicon
U're just a rope of silicon (U)

2 the slaughterhouse

Leave that blood alone
Don't U know that dead blood kills interferons
Making the immune system victim 2 whereupon
Any known virus can boot up and log on
ww.U.com

CHORUS:
Rope of silicon
Just a rope of silicon
Rope of silicon
Just a rope of silicon

Rope of silicon {x3}
Just a rope of silicon
Now U've found me, now that U're here
Let's talk about the U in this con
If U're getting bored don't front, just yawn
This is the kind of stuff that requires patience
Never mind the rhyme just relax and wax the song
That on and on and on and on
Ain't gonna stop 'till the early mornin'
Break it down, later on come break down, y'all
What'

Dance {x5}
(Dance on the funk)
Just dance
(Dance on the funk)
Dance
(Dance on the funk)
Just dance
(Dance on the funk)

CHORUS
Rope of silicon
Just a rope of silicon
Just a rope...

This is why U was looking 4 me' Then check it
Let's talk about the U in this con
If U're getting bored don't front, just yawn
Cuz this is the kind of stuff that requires patience
Don't think, just wax on
If U are the eye that is the pawn
U beget the dead fruit of Armageddon
Thick skin reigns in the realm of the pseudonym
While the blows taken by the silly con
The family does well with God 2 keep it strong
Never a paradox, never a hexagon
U plus he or she keep going on
But with another one of U in the title of this song

Goes on and on and on and on and on and on

CHORUS

Dance, dance on the funk {x10}
Dance {x2}

©NPG Music Club

Thanks for the info.... And I see from somebody elses post and opinion, that he was actually talking about eating red meat in this song.

Anybody know what Wolfy, Wolf, Wolf... Larry Graham been doing lately??? (Wolf in Sheeps Clothing)

I noticed in the investigative files in Princes office on the main floor - one of the boxes contained a copy of the JW Book "When Someone You Love Dies". The book was at the top in the box and the box was next to his desk. This is the office that had the pictures of Yara Shahidi, etc. Just wondering Prince's state of mind if he was reading this book or maybe he could have been packing it away

WeDaBest said:

Krystalkisses said:

violetcrush said:

Krystalkisses said:

Ok thanks for the explanation. I was reading too much into it. My bad!

Knowing what we know now - although even back then the way Prince’s camp publicly explained the Moline event - the media’s and public’s concern was very justified. Planes don’t make emergency landings for dehydration caused by Flu, which was the story given. I’m surprised Prince was angry about the fans’ concerns. He knew how dire the situation was in Moline. He knew the Doctors saved his life that night. T believe that Doctor was his guest at PP on April 16th. * The whole thing is just so sad. So so sad that he didn’t get help in time

Which doctor?.....Schulenberg? Was Schulenberg at the PP dance party on the 16th? I do remember something about a Doctor being there.

violetcrush said:

Krystalkisses said:

Ok thanks for the explanation. I was reading too much into it. My bad!

Knowing what we know now - although even back then the way Prince’s camp publicly explained the Moline event - the media’s and public’s concern was very justified. Planes don’t make emergency landings for dehydration caused by Flu, which was the story given. I’m surprised Prince was angry about the fans’ concerns. He knew how dire the situation was in Moline. He knew the Doctors saved his life that night. T believe that Doctor was his guest at PP on April 16th.
*
The whole thing is just so sad. So so sad that he didn’t get help in time

My grandma, who was like a mother to me, was a JW but never pushed it on me at all. She was very respectful of my beliefs and would engage me in intelligent debate on any subject, including religion.

He fucking friend though that lives down the street from me (I live in her old house) DOES...NOT...STOP...and WILL...NOT...TAKE...a..HINT. Or even a polite yet direct request to kindly knock it the fuck off. I avoid her as much as possible but inevitabley run into her since she lives on my street and without fail, there's always some pamphlet, some shit about "the devil" being the cause of all my ills and a sympathy card with hand written Jesus stuff all over it whenever I suffer a loss.

I've asked her repeatedly and nicely to stop and told her I'm not interested yet she persists. I find it rude and condescending. She wonders why I avoid her. She ALSO tries to witness my son, who is now 8, and to me that crosses a line. That's MY JOB and HIS journey. SHe'll buy him Jesus/JW books for his birthday and shit (which is weird because they're not supposed to celebrate holidays) and then bug the shit out of me later, pestering me to tell her how much he loved the gifts.

Her house has flooded 2x (hurricane Irma and Matthew). Devil did that apparently. New stuff with insurance check? That was God.

Man, the cognitive dissonance it takes to be devoutly religious is just something that's always been utterly baffling to me - ever since I stopped believing in Santa and the Easter Bunny. I respect other people's faith but I'll be damned if they seem to respect mine (atheist/agnostic) no matter how polite I am about it.

It's a real turn off and reeks of condescention and arrogance.

I got news for you: anyone who thinks they know "the truth" and has all the answers...? They don't know shit and are trying to convince themselves. I'll include Prince in that as well. They're seeking validation and they're virtue signaling. I admire a lot of what he accomplished and the way he lived his life but drew the line at that whole "you're over here and you're over there" stuff.

Krystalkisses said:

violetcrush said:

Knowing what we know now - although even back then the way Prince’s camp publicly explained the Moline event - the media’s and public’s concern was very justified. Planes don’t make emergency landings for dehydration caused by Flu, which was the story given. I’m surprised Prince was angry about the fans’ concerns. He knew how dire the situation was in Moline. He knew the Doctors saved his life that night. T believe that Doctor was his guest at PP on April 16th.
*
The whole thing is just so sad. So so sad that he didn’t get help in time

He would have been dead that night had not everyone reacted as quickly as they did. And really, he thought everyone was just making a fuss over nothing????

violetcrush said:

violetcrush said:

Krystalkisses said:

Ok thanks for the explanation. I was reading too much into it. My bad!

Knowing what we know now - although even back then the way Prince’s camp publicly explained the Moline event - the media’s and public’s concern was very justified. Planes don’t make emergency landings for dehydration caused by Flu, which was the story given. I’m surprised Prince was angry about the fans’ concerns. He knew how dire the situation was in Moline. He knew the Doctors saved his life that night. T believe that Doctor was his guest at PP on April 16th. * The whole thing is just so sad. So so sad that he didn’t get help in time

Right, but keep in mind, no one would have known anything had gone on, had it not been for TMZ following him. And he had some pretty hysterical fans tweeting him on twitter. Plus, he may have thought it all blew over, he was fine (we know now he wasn't but at the time, I'm sure Prince believed it wouldn't happen again so he thought he was fine), and he wakes up to fans going crazy on social media and people from all over calling him to check on him. To him, it was over and done with and no longer a big deal. But now he had to do PR on an incident he went to bed believing he would not have to do PR on.

I don't think it's a coincidence that Prince's more "hard line" religious stance seemed to coincide with the loss of his parents.

Krystalkisses said:

violetcrush said:

Knowing what we know now - although even back then the way Prince’s camp publicly explained the Moline event - the media’s and public’s concern was very justified. Planes don’t make emergency landings for dehydration caused by Flu, which was the story given. I’m surprised Prince was angry about the fans’ concerns. He knew how dire the situation was in Moline. He knew the Doctors saved his life that night. T believe that Doctor was his guest at PP on April 16th. * The whole thing is just so sad. So so sad that he didn’t get help in time

He would have been dead that night had not everyone reacted as quickly as they did. And really, he thought everyone was just making a fuss over nothing????

I don't think he planned on anyone making a fuss over it. I don't think he planned on anyone knowing about it. He was in the ER all night, after performing 2 sets, had to stick it out in the ER until the following morning, got home and probably went straight to bed. Imagine the chaos he woke up to. Old proteges and friends calling him, people he hadn't from in quite some time. Fans going nuts on twitter, even one fan threatening suicide because she thought he was gone already. People were getting upset because he wasn't responding and letting them know he was okay (probably because he was sleeping when the news broke)....it wasn't that he didn't expect anyone to not make a fuss (keep in mind he told them that when they hear news like that again, to hold their prayers, wait a few days, make sure it was true and that the prayers were actually needed - so he knew people would make a fuss, it was just he was okay and people were acting like he had already died).

herb4 said:

I don't think it's a coincidence that Prince's more "hard line" religious stance seemed to coincide with the loss of his parents.

That's true. Wasn't there a story (don't know if it was true or not) that his mom asked him to promise her he'd get back involved with the church?

benni said:

herb4 said:

I don't think it's a coincidence that Prince's more "hard line" religious stance seemed to coincide with the loss of his parents.

That's true. Wasn't there a story (don't know if it was true or not) that his mom asked him to promise her he'd get back involved with the church?

I don't know about any of that but the timing of it all seemed to coincide.

Larry coming in as a father figure makes sense on a certain level too. I never really cared what Prince got into on that level but I have to admit being a tad turned off by the uptick in preachiness and self righteousness that came along around TRC and ONA.

I know his conversion was before that but, man, he really dialed it up to 11 around the early 2000's, I preferred his more inclusive and..."welcoming" I guess...material from 1999 and Dirty Mind and preferred spending my timein Uptown more than The Digital Garden. His anonymous philanthropic efforts over the years seemed to suggest he indeed walked the walk but sometimes I got the feeling he was trying to have it both ways with the flashy clothes, the adultery and all the "no-no's" that go with being a JW.

It's pretty obvious to me that Prince was always seeking something higher that he never got from his parents (security, love, nurturing, trust) and largely channeled it through his music (and sexuality, daring, androgyny, etc.) More power to him as far as I'm concerned. He had a hell of a ride and accomoplished soooo much. I won't hold a religious decision against someone but that doesn't mean I'm going along with it.

herb4 said:

benni said:

violetcrush said:

benni said:

Right, but keep in mind, no one would have known anything had gone on, had it not been for TMZ following him. And he had some pretty hysterical fans tweeting him on twitter. Plus, he may have thought it all blew over, he was fine (we know now he wasn't but at the time, I'm sure Prince believed it wouldn't happen again so he thought he was fine), and he wakes up to fans going crazy on social media and people from all over calling him to check on him. To him, it was over and done with and no longer a big deal. But now he had to do PR on an incident he went to bed believing he would not have to do PR on.

Nah, that thinking is a bit naive. Prince had been dealing with that kind of press and fan attention since the Purple Rain days. I have no doubt that he expected the reaction. Emergency landings are always big with the media. Also, by that point many who were following Prince knew something was not right with his health. His anger most likely came from those who were questioning the explanation (which was most everyone) and/or rumors that he had died.

Yes, but there have no reported emergency plane landings, questioning of his health, belief that he had died in all those years. Usually, it was just fanatical fans and people idolizing him. For as big of a star as he was, there has been very little negative press about him (especially on main stream media). Gossip rags, yeah, he expected that. This was reported on by major news networks. AND he was on a plane, on his way home, who could expect TMZ to get a scoop about an emergency plane landing in Moline, Illinois of all places and to know that it was Prince's plane that had made the emergency landing, and main stream news sources to start reporting on it? I mean, someone in his camp had to have called TMZ to tell them Prince made an emergency plane landing, that Prince was rushed to the hospital, unconscious. Kind of the ultimate betrayal, yeah?, knowing how private Prince was and how he protected those most private parts of his life?

benni said:

TMZ was following him for a reason. The Blind Item that was published probably started tipping off the gossip sites. I don't believe the pilots or the flight crew tipped off TMZ, in fact when the paramedics arrived they didn't know who it was and was mistaken for a lady until a paramedic recognized him. Maybe the gossip sites were monitering him because he had cancelled a couple of shows. But it is rather odd that TMZ would be in Moline at just the right time. And it could have been just a regular person who videoed it and found out later it was Prince and sold the video to TMZ.

PennyPurple said:

TMZ was following him for a reason. The Blind Item that was published probably started tipping off the gossip sites. I don't believe the pilots or the flight crew tipped off TMZ, in fact when the paramedics arrived they didn't know who it was and was mistaken for a lady until a paramedic recognized him. Maybe the gossip sites were monitering him because he had cancelled a couple of shows. But it is rather odd that TMZ would be in Moline at just the right time. And it could have been just a regular person who videoed it and found out later it was Prince and sold the video to TMZ.

Videoed what?

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

PennyPurple said:

TMZ was following him for a reason. The Blind Item that was published probably started tipping off the gossip sites. I don't believe the pilots or the flight crew tipped off TMZ, in fact when the paramedics arrived they didn't know who it was and was mistaken for a lady until a paramedic recognized him. Maybe the gossip sites were monitering him because he had cancelled a couple of shows. But it is rather odd that TMZ would be in Moline at just the right time. And it could have been just a regular person who videoed it and found out later it was Prince and sold the video to TMZ.

Videoed what?

Him on the strecher on the tarmac.

PennyPurple said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Videoed what?

Him on the strecher on the tarmac.

Oh...now I understand what you are saying.


I thought that was surveillance video from the airport?

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

violetcrush said:

Right, I don’t think an individual was filming the Moline scene. There are cameras all over airports, especially around the tarmac areas. Or, could have been filmed by someone in the airport. Smart phone video is anywhere and everywhere.

That's what I said.

PennyPurple said:

violetcrush said:

If a major celebrity is being rushed to the hospital (or wipes thier ass with their off hand), TMZ is going to be there. It's essentially all they do.

There's nothing off or unusual about someone as famous Prince being rushed to the hospital and those vultures and parasites having reporters on the ground taking pictures.

...

Wait..what's this thread about again? Jehovah Witnesses, right? Come to think of it, shouldn't this thread go in P&R?