coldcoffeeandcocacola said:

PennyPurple said:

Judith Hill was his last.

Judith’s book would be very sad. I couldn’t bear to read her first hand account of losing mj and then prince. Especially prince as it’s so personal to her. What were the chances she’d be close by two such tragic deaths. I’d be very interested to know why he sent everyone home the day before he died and also what happened on that place. Perhaps she would have insight. Or perhaps she can’t say. She did very well to keep going after those knocks.

she said to the police that she was 50/50 on suicide, I used to think she may have been right. I'm still not sure but i don't think him being hooked is as far fetched as I once did. Some have said we were in denial with the drugs, it wasn't that, it was how I couldn't figure out how he functioned like that. I know nothing of opioids, some people say you can function fine being hooked on them, but just the other day I'm reading about the homeless explosion in seattle and opioids is the one culprit mentioned as being so crippling. I still don't know.

Shockadelica9 said:

PeteSilas said:

A couple posters who claimed to be in or close to prince have hinted at some issue and of course the blind item which prince saw the night he died which claimed he had aids. He was so far in damage control that one poster said it pushed him over the edge.

Not trying to be rude but his sources are people involved in the investigation ect...his sources are more reliable than random people online claiming to know him. His expanded edition of the book will be out this summer

we had a couple people, maybe 2 or 3 that i'm aware of that seemed really close, having knowledge of a 2011 od which almost killed the man, (true) and although they wouldn't say much, they did say he had some sort of underlying health issue. I actually thought the aids theory may have been true because I never saw prince going out like that, never, i thought it was suicide for the longest time and still kinda do. Of course, as i've said from the start, the officials lie whenever they feel like it and in Prince's case, the real info is scant so any book written on the death is going to be more conjecture. It's still a mysterious death, I tend to vascillate between the different ways he could have died, the problem with the pills that he took was how would someone be so stupid as to take the same shit that almost killed him the week before? Was Prince that stupid? I even thought that he tried to kill himself then and maybe did it when he could get some space a few days later. Why? who knows. Judith did say he made cryptic remarks about his time being up and being depressed and reminiscing about the "good old days". Then, of course there was the fact that most addicts that far into their addictions cannot function and cannot hide it. As I said in either this or another thread, seattle has a huge homeless problem and opioids are given as the main cause, it's not a drug that helps most people function. I have heard that some people can function quite well on them, maybe prince was like that. I know nothing about real addiction, I never had a smoke, an illegal drug and i only drank when my crazy parents made me as a kid. i know nothing about addiction other than I hate it.

PennyPurple said:

RJOrion said:

coldcoffeeandcocacola said:

Three?? Three?? How much hurt can one woman take!

thats alot of fatal coincidence... or just maybe she had something to do with all 3 deaths...

She had NOTHING to do with any of the 3 deaths...it's just bad luck.

RJOrion said:

PennyPurple said:

She had NOTHING to do with any of the 3 deaths...it's just bad luck.

how can you be so sure?... unless you are her

Yeah, sure. Now I'm Judith Hill.

We all know how MJ died.

Andrae Crouch had pneumonia that he was just getting over and suffered a heartattack.

We all know how Prince died.

PeteSilas said:

Shockadelica9 said:

PeteSilas said:

TheTruth123 said:

RJOrion said:

PennyPurple said:

Yeah, sure. Now I'm Judith Hill.

We all know how MJ died.

Andrae Crouch had pneumonia that he was just getting over and suffered a heartattack.

We all know how Prince died.

no...we dont KNOW how ANY of them died...we just hear what we're told by people who have historically lied to the public, and we are forced to either believe it at face value, or use our own research, discernment and personal experiences to sift through the bullshit, propaganda, and misinformation...

Judith Hill had nothing to do with any of their deaths. Really?

Krystalkisses said:

TheTruth123 said:

I still agree with this. It’s called a half-hearted suicide attempt. When things seem so tough that although you don’t want to go, you do want to. [Edited 4/5/19 20:24pm]

I keep coming back to this conclusion too. Heartbreaking.

He was also in opiate withdrawal that week and that can be very anxiety-producing.

PennyPurple said:

TheTruth123 said:

RJOrion said:

no...we dont KNOW how ANY of them died...we just hear what we're told by people who have historically lied to the public, and we are forced to either believe it at face value, or use our own research, discernment and personal experiences to sift through the bullshit, propaganda, and misinformation...

What we have done in our grief and missing him is complicate the simple truth we all knew in the beginning.

i dont' think about it much these days but I'm still far from thinking it was simple or that we know the catalysts and inner working that led to the mans death. We were never given the info as fans to make a conclusion, at least not for me. I think it's highly improbably that Prince would mention his time being up and then almost dying and then dying a week later, I think that's strange. I don't think he meant to survive the first time. But I waiver with the rest of you guys and yes sometimes the "simple" conclusion that he was just so lost in addiction occurs to me to. I really don't care who's "right" I just wish we had a stable truth.

Krystalkisses said:

PeteSilas said:

i dont' think about it much these days but I'm still far from thinking it was simple or that we know the catalysts and inner working that led to the mans death. We were never given the info as fans to make a conclusion, at least not for me. I think it's highly improbably that Prince would mention his time being up and then almost dying and then dying a week later, I think that's strange. I don't think he meant to survive the first time. But I waiver with the rest of you guys and yes sometimes the "simple" conclusion that he was just so lost in addiction occurs to me to. I really don't care who's "right" I just wish we had a stable truth.

It is very strange. I used to think Prince was suffering from HIV and that is why the police/estate/associates were acting so strange like they were trying to hide that from the public...im not so convinced of that anymore. All the clues seem to point to a suicide, which is very upsetting and heartbreaking yes but I just don't understand the estate' s reasoning of covering that up. I mean many, many great artists lead tortured inner lives and took their own lives. It didn't sully their art or work at all...their work is still loved and respected. Kurt Cobain committed suicide and people still love Nirvana ..unless their is an unseen dynamic at play , like a deeper stigma regarding suicide among the black community that I am overlooking. ....but what really still puzzles me is what was the trigger or catalyst for this decision, for him, ..it is such a mystery to me because that man has suffered enormous trauma and somehow he ALWAYS found the strength to keep going and keep creating and trying his best ...actually that was why he was my hero , because when I was going through hard times or upsetting things I really saw him as an example of fortitude and a pillar of strength. I mean honestly, many , many people who experienced that level of pain and trauma become, street people, he managed to lead such a successful life...he seemed to have so much fight and will inside of him ...what was different in 2016? Will probably never have a real awnser but I'm just throwing it out there in the universe. Sometimes we never get closure as unsettling as that is.

age, people get tired. I feel it I know that. I've seen older people tell me "i'm ready Pete" meaning they're done. Most people just wait it out. And as far as addiction, that is self-destructive and slow suicide if you look at it like i do. Anything we do that works against life is suicidal and we all have habits. Mine is food.

I thought he had the hiv thing too because of the rumor and the secrecy, it looks like that wasn't the case. I think it was mulefunk who said though, that that "blind item" was seen by Prince the night before he died and "it was a factor in why we lost him" what the hell does that mean? I kind of had to stop ruminating over it and get my work done which means honoring him as a musician too, playing his music, practicing his music. which is on my mind as a struggle as a failed musician, "what would he say to me" he would no doubt say to "keep working".

[Edited 4/8/19 14:09pm]

Krystalkisses said:

PeteSilas said:

i dont' think about it much these days but I'm still far from thinking it was simple or that we know the catalysts and inner working that led to the mans death. We were never given the info as fans to make a conclusion, at least not for me. I think it's highly improbably that Prince would mention his time being up and then almost dying and then dying a week later, I think that's strange. I don't think he meant to survive the first time. But I waiver with the rest of you guys and yes sometimes the "simple" conclusion that he was just so lost in addiction occurs to me to. I really don't care who's "right" I just wish we had a stable truth.

It is very strange. I used to think Prince was suffering from HIV and that is why the police/estate/associates were acting so strange like they were trying to hide that from the public...im not so convinced of that anymore. All the clues seem to point to a suicide, which is very upsetting and heartbreaking yes but I just don't understand the estate' s reasoning of covering that up. I mean many, many great artists lead tortured inner lives and took their own lives. It didn't sully their art or work at all...their work is still loved and respected. Kurt Cobain committed suicide and people still love Nirvana ..unless their is an unseen dynamic at play , like a deeper stigma regarding suicide among the black community that I am overlooking. ....but what really still puzzles me is what was the trigger or catalyst for this decision, for him, ..it is such a mystery to me because that man has suffered enormous trauma and somehow he ALWAYS found the strength to keep going and keep creating and trying his best ...actually that was why he was my hero , because when I was going through hard times or upsetting things I really saw him as an example of fortitude and a pillar of strength. I mean honestly, many , many people who experienced that level of pain and trauma become, street people, he managed to lead such a successful life...he seemed to have so much fight and will inside of him ...what was different in 2016? Will probably never have a real awnser but I'm just throwing it out there in the universe. Sometimes we never get closure as unsettling as that is.

age, people get tired. I feel it I know that. I've seen older people tell me "i'm ready Pete" meaning they're done. Most people just wait it out. And as far as addiction, that is self-destructive and slow suicide if you look at it like i do. Anything we do that works against life is suicidal and we all have habits. Mine is food.

I thought he had the hiv thing too because of the rumor and the secrecy, it looks like that wasn't the case. I think it was mulefunk who said though, that that "blind item" was seen by Prince the night before he died and "it was a factor in why we lost him" what the hell does that mean? I kind of had to stop ruminating over it and get my work done which means honoring him as a musician too, playing his music, practicing his music. which is on my mind as a struggle as a failed musician, "what would he say to me" he would no doubt say to "keep working".

[Edited 4/8/19 14:09pm]

PeteSilas said: