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Reply #30 posted 04/05/19 10:31am

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"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances."prince 1985
"eye don't think about gone just think about the future when eye don't want 2 speak n real time" prince 2004
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Reply #31 posted 04/05/19 10:44am

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Was it hers that was listed at $75 or something outrageous? Has that changed?

edit: Looks like it's not that $75 or whatever. It's $21.99, but the US shipping is $10 and international is $30. She could put that in the mail at media rate for half that in the U.S. For $10, it better fucking well be Priority.

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Reply #32 posted 04/08/19 2:50pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

330r9fk.jpg


Was it hers that was listed at $75 or something outrageous? Has that changed?

edit: Looks like it's not that $75 or whatever. It's $21.99, but the US shipping is $10 and international is $30. She could put that in the mail at media rate for half that in the U.S. For $10, it better fucking well be Priority.

[Edited 4/5/19 10:49am]

Wow still too expensive.

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Reply #33 posted 04/15/19 6:16pm

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Kim has announced that there will be a delay in the shipment of her new book. sad

"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances."prince 1985
"eye don't think about gone just think about the future when eye don't want 2 speak n real time" prince 2004
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Reply #34 posted 04/16/19 5:28pm

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

Kim has announced that there will be a delay in the shipment of her new book. sad


Shocking.

Said no one. It feels like a 2nd rate hustle. I'm not being negative, it just seems... homemade. Ya know?

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Reply #35 posted 04/24/19 8:56am

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TrivialPursuit said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Kim has announced that there will be a delay in the shipment of her new book. sad


Shocking.

Said no one. It feels like a 2nd rate hustle. I'm not being negative, it just seems... homemade. Ya know?

I get that. Not to downplay her contribution, but I would think a co-write with her make-up and wardrobe peers from her time would present a more enticing package.

Listen2Prince !!

U can listen to a different Prince project every week for a year! Sometimes U might have to double (or triple) up on related albums to make it fit, tho.

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Reply #36 posted 04/26/19 1:57am

margi

purplefam99 said:

If you want an in-depth look at prince
And Minneapolis and the black community of the
Great migration that surrounded him and what he was
Nurtured in you should read this.
The Lyrics of Prince Rogers Nelson/[icon Symbol]: A Literary Look at a Creative Musical Poet, Philosopher, and Storyteller
Book by C. Liegh McInnis

You will come away from this read
More informed on not only Prince.

I highly recommend this book if you want to delve into the brilliant mind of, as C. Leigh McInnis writes, a Musical Poet, philosopher and Storyteller. It is a brilliant book and you come away knowing how the mind of this particular genius was thinking. He was so far ahead of the public that listened to his words and very few of the public ever touched on what he was really saying in his words. He was a teacher and we all missed the meaning of some of the lessons.
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Reply #37 posted 04/26/19 6:27am

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"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances."prince 1985
"eye don't think about gone just think about the future when eye don't want 2 speak n real time" prince 2004
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Reply #38 posted 04/26/19 6:31am

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bored of Prince books already.

Give me a shake when Duane's next studio book turns up.

Hamburger, Hot Dog, Root Beer, Pussy
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Reply #39 posted 04/26/19 8:42pm

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Any book thats not from the estate is a money grab attempt

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Reply #40 posted 04/26/19 11:39pm

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SanDiegoFunkDaddy said:

Any book thats not from the estate is a money grab attempt


That's untrue. Some are, yes, but people have a right to tell their stories of working with/for him. It takes discernment to know which storyteller we wanna hear from. Kim Berry is clearly not one of them, yet Mayte is the one person I would want to hear from on him. He married her, and how many women did he propose to before her? She made it thru, though. Band members, Susan Rogers - all have fun stories and are worth hearing. As long as it's respectful and comes from a place of love for Prince, it's fine.

But don't get it twisted: I ain't buying all of 'em. I've only read Mayte's, Toure's and Duane's.

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Reply #41 posted 04/27/19 1:09am

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TrivialPursuit said:

SanDiegoFunkDaddy said:

Any book thats not from the estate is a money grab attempt


That's untrue. Some are, yes, but people have a right to tell their stories of working with/for him. It takes discernment to know which storyteller we wanna hear from. Kim Berry is clearly not one of them, yet Mayte is the one person I would want to hear from on him. He married her, and how many women did he propose to before her? She made it thru, though. Band members, Susan Rogers - all have fun stories and are worth hearing. As long as it's respectful and comes from a place of love for Prince, it's fine.

But don't get it twisted: I ain't buying all of 'em. I've only read Mayte's, Toure's and Duane's.

I have zero interest in the hairdresser...but I did pre-order the Prince "autobiography" and the autobiography by Morris Day...

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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Reply #42 posted 04/27/19 7:07pm

mnfriend

Completely objective Prince fan since the 80’s (me) signs in to say:

Book
Diamonds and Curlz
(available Amazon kindle)
I’m on page 61 only and it’s one of the best Prince books I’ve ever read.
Edit last time: I finished the book, it was quicker than I thought. I enjoyed how Kim communicated and thought the book worth it. Thanks-




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Reply #43 posted 04/29/19 10:23am

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I've actually been adding to my Prince library the last couple of months. This weekend I ordered Got to Be Something Here: The Rise of the Minneapolis Sound by Andrea Swensson. It's nor directly a Prince book - but it begins in 1958 and talks about how the time and place really shaped what Prince became - I'll be interested to read it. It had good reviews on Amazon and was only $15 - would be interested to hear from anyone who read it.

If a man is considered guilty
For what goes on in his mind
Then give me the electric chair
For all my future crimes"
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Reply #44 posted 04/29/19 11:45am

violetcrush

TrivialPursuit said:

jaawwnn said:

For what it's worth, my two cents:


Touré's I would Die 4 U book isn't a biography and should not be approached as one, it's got its flaws (not least the fact that he doesn't seem to know the basic tracklists to albums) but it's interesting enough. He's making an argument about pop culture via Prince though so it's kind of niche.

I'd recommend Alan Light's Let's Go Crazy book, it gives you the central story of why Prince is famous and what Purple Rain achieved - in fact I'd probably go as far as saying it's the best starter book. Obviously, it's limited in scope but I still feel you leave it understanding the whole phenomenon better and have a context for understanding why he went the way he did after Purple Rain.


Yeah, Toure's book is more about Gen Xers. As one of those people, it was interesting. He breaks down how Prince is actually a baby boomer, but clicked with the Gen X population. He talks at great length about Gen X's outlook on war, social responsibility, work ethics, divorce; how so much of their parent's age of prosperity and growth was shattered by their own actions, thereby giving Gen Xers a reason to scoff at the world, and not see the brighter side. He then pushes that narrative into Prince's music, especially with songs like "When Doves Cry", where he theorizes that Prince is pleading with his father in "how could you just leave me standing, alone in a world so cold", correlating that to Prince being kicked out, and calling his father from a phone booth on a rainy night. He says Prince aligns himself with his father - a man he's always had a tumultuous relationship with - comparing their personalities and symbiotic; "maybe I'm just like my father, too bold", to say "Dad, we're more alike than not". Then relents by dissing his mother, "maybe I'm just like my mother, she's never satisfied", finding a foxhole bonding moment with his dad over his mother's shortcomings. "Why do we scream at each other?" is the ultimate pleading to get back home.

It's an interesting take on Prince's lyrics. (He does this with other songs, too, but not in great quantity.) As a person who turned 51 last Friday, and being a solid Gen X person, those parts of the read were fascinating. I was more wrapped up in how Gen Xers were raised and their ideologies - while shouting "YES!" at my Nook - than I was caring what Tourè had to say about Prince sometimes. The last 1/3 of the book just trails off into blathering about nothing.

I'm glad to hear that about Alan Light's book. He was always a good writer in the years he covered Prince for Vibe or other outlets. Light is a couple of years older than me, so he's right in that Gen X pocket as well. His familiarity with Prince as a Gen Xer and a journalist gave him a great perspective on Prince. I remember his articles back in the 90s during the prince name era. His book is still on my list to read.

Actually, I think Toure got a few things wrong about Prince's lyrics in his book. I read it a long time ago and got it from my public library, so I don't have it front of me, but if memory serves me right, these are some the things he got wrong:

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When Doves Cry - this song is Prince talking to his lover - When he asks, "how could you just leave me standing alone in a world so cold?", he's asking his woman this question. Then he compares himself to his Father ("maybe I'm just like my Father - too bold") and then compares his lover to his Mother (maybe you're just like my Mother - she's never satisfied"). He's explaining the possible reason why they (Prince and his woman) fight all the time - because they are like his parents. Also, it has been said that he felt more abandoned by his Mother than his Father - even though his Father kicked him out of the apartment, they were always close. Prince felt abandoned by his Mother, because she married Hayward, with whom Prince had a contentious relationship. He would not allow Prince to play music in the house, and he was very strict, which is said to be why Prince moved out. It seems his Mother did not make a huge effort to convince him to stay, however, she may have known he would not stay - but Prince may have felt she chose his stepfather over him.

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1999 - I believe Toure was discussing the "I got a Lion in my pocket and baby he's ready to roar!" lyric as if Prince was using some type of biblical analogy. If you watch Prince performing this song back during the PR days his facial expressions and hand gestures show that he was clearly referring to the "tootsie roll" he had in his pocket that was ready to "play". Doubtful that he had was making any type of biblical reference there. This was always a fun party song.

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Around The World In A Day - Toure quotes one of the lyrics as "no shouting" - wha????? Pretty sure the actual lyric is "no chivalry" biggrin I could be wrong, but I don't think so. Some lyric sites show "no shouting" and another shows "no traveling". To me, you can clearly hear him saying "chivalry".

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Extraloveable - I think Toure was talking about the lyric "baby u could turn my mama on and she's just as straight, as straight as straight can be" I can't remember exactly how he was explaining that lyric, but it wasn't in reference to the girl being so hot that his Mother would even be attracted to her - he was comparing it to something completely different.

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Now I have to go back and get the book to double check my memory lol So, not really a great one for learning about the history of Prince or his songs....

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Reply #45 posted 04/29/19 2:07pm

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Actually, I think Toure got a few things wrong about Prince's lyrics in his book. I read it a long time ago and got it from my public library, so I don't have it front of me, but if memory serves me right, these are some the things he got wrong:

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When Doves Cry - this song is Prince talking to his lover - When he asks, "how could you just leave me standing alone in a world so cold?", he's asking his woman this question. Then he compares himself to his Father ("maybe I'm just like my Father - too bold") and then compares his lover to his Mother (maybe you're just like my Mother - she's never satisfied"). He's explaining the possible reason why they (Prince and his woman) fight all the time - because they are like his parents. Also, it has been said that he felt more abandoned by his Mother than his Father - even though his Father kicked him out of the apartment, they were always close. Prince felt abandoned by his Mother, because she married Hayward, with whom Prince had a contentious relationship. He would not allow Prince to play music in the house, and he was very strict, which is said to be why Prince moved out. It seems his Mother did not make a huge effort to convince him to stay, however, she may have known he would not stay - but Prince may have felt she chose his stepfather over him.

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1999 - I believe Toure was discussing the "I got a Lion in my pocket and baby he's ready to roar!" lyric as if Prince was using some type of biblical analogy. If you watch Prince performing this song back during the PR days his facial expressions and hand gestures show that he was clearly referring to the "tootsie roll" he had in his pocket that was ready to "play". Doubtful that he had was making any type of biblical reference there. This was always a fun party song.

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Around The World In A Day - Toure quotes one of the lyrics as "no shouting" - wha????? Pretty sure the actual lyric is "no chivalry" biggrin I could be wrong, but I don't think so. Some lyric sites show "no shouting" and another shows "no traveling". To me, you can clearly hear him saying "chivalry".


I agree about the "1999" reference. Prince often talked about making "love until the world stops turning". It wasn't a reference to anything else but sex.

As far as "When Doves Cry", it's likely a direct reference to his lover (even in the movie it's during a montage of him pouting and working out his girl problems). But Toure's theories are interest to say the least; it could spawn interesting conversation about his childhood and his upbringing. Toure argued each line being directed at a different person (much like different verses in "Purple Rain" being toward different folks).

I'll give Toure credit for going deep on those things. Some of them certainly were more interesting than Prince allegedly timing his songs to mean something (like an ongoing thread right now).

I was (and am) part of the DTT Lyrics site. We always had "shouting".

This experience will cover courtship, sex, commitment, fetishes, loneliness, vindication, love, and hate.
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Reply #46 posted 04/29/19 3:24pm

violetcrush

TrivialPursuit said:

SanDiegoFunkDaddy said:

Any book thats not from the estate is a money grab attempt


That's untrue. Some are, yes, but people have a right to tell their stories of working with/for him. It takes discernment to know which storyteller we wanna hear from. Kim Berry is clearly not one of them, yet Mayte is the one person I would want to hear from on him. He married her, and how many women did he propose to before her? She made it thru, though. Band members, Susan Rogers - all have fun stories and are worth hearing. As long as it's respectful and comes from a place of love for Prince, it's fine.

But don't get it twisted: I ain't buying all of 'em. I've only read Mayte's, Toure's and Duane's.

He proposed to Susannah first in 1985 smile

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Yes, Mayte made it down the aisle, but look at what she put up with, and how she was treated. Never being able to contact him directly - even during the marriage?? All of the women he rotated in and out from 1990-1995 while he was shagging her (his typical m/o), and then more women not long after the death of their child when he did the Jam Of The Year tour - just before he started with Manuela. Sorry, but I don't see her as being that much different than any of the other more "serious" relationhips (Susan, Vanity, Susannah, etc) other than a marriage license, and I don't think she was privy to more information - if anything, less so because she didn't record with him. That's just my opinion of course smile

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Reply #47 posted 04/29/19 4:44pm

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violetcrush said:

Yes, Mayte made it down the aisle, but look at what she put up with, and how she was treated. Never being able to contact him directly - even during the marriage?? ...I don't see her as being that much different than any of the other more "serious" relationhips (Susan, Vanity, Susannah, etc) other than a marriage license, and I don't think she was privy to more information - if anything, less so because she didn't record with him. That's just my opinion of course smile


You obviously haven't read the book.

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Reply #48 posted 04/29/19 5:04pm

violetcrush

TrivialPursuit said:

violetcrush said:

Yes, Mayte made it down the aisle, but look at what she put up with, and how she was treated. Never being able to contact him directly - even during the marriage?? ...I don't see her as being that much different than any of the other more "serious" relationhips (Susan, Vanity, Susannah, etc) other than a marriage license, and I don't think she was privy to more information - if anything, less so because she didn't record with him. That's just my opinion of course smile


You obviously haven't read the book.

Nah......not a big fan of hers. I guess her behavior after Prince gave her the boot really turned me off. The attempt at selling his stuff prior to his death, the mocking comments on the ridiculous Hollywood Ex's show and social media, and the more recent video (secretly recorded) of her doing her belly dancing classes in Vegas to songs like Computer Blue (wha???) while selling merch with his symbol on it not long after Prince passed.

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Just don't hold a lot of stock in her stories disbelief

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My comment about her never being able to contact him directly came from an interview she did while she was promoting the sale of her book....

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Reply #49 posted 04/29/19 8:23pm

paddypurple

I preordered the beautiful ones
I can't think of a good signature.
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Reply #50 posted 05/03/19 4:11am

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WOW POOK NOT EVEN THINK OF SHOP AT PAISLEY PARK!

GOOD LOOKIN OUT TRIVIALPURSUIT

TrivialPursuit said:


I would recommend:


Guitar & Bass

Fashion

Paisley Park (all 3 from Paisley Park's site)


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Reply #51 posted 05/03/19 4:13am

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BART GO RIBBIT RIBBIT

TrivialPursuit said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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This is why sites like Goodreads exist. Princevault has a list of virtually all books, use that to look them up on GR and read the reviews.


It's also why prince.org exists, you toad.


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Reply #52 posted 05/03/19 5:35am

violetcrush

TrivialPursuit said:



violetcrush said:





Actually, I think Toure got a few things wrong about Prince's lyrics in his book. I read it a long time ago and got it from my public library, so I don't have it front of me, but if memory serves me right, these are some the things he got wrong:


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When Doves Cry - this song is Prince talking to his lover - When he asks, "how could you just leave me standing alone in a world so cold?", he's asking his woman this question. Then he compares himself to his Father ("maybe I'm just like my Father - too bold") and then compares his lover to his Mother (maybe you're just like my Mother - she's never satisfied"). He's explaining the possible reason why they (Prince and his woman) fight all the time - because they are like his parents. Also, it has been said that he felt more abandoned by his Mother than his Father - even though his Father kicked him out of the apartment, they were always close. Prince felt abandoned by his Mother, because she married Hayward, with whom Prince had a contentious relationship. He would not allow Prince to play music in the house, and he was very strict, which is said to be why Prince moved out. It seems his Mother did not make a huge effort to convince him to stay, however, she may have known he would not stay - but Prince may have felt she chose his stepfather over him.


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1999 - I believe Toure was discussing the "I got a Lion in my pocket and baby he's ready to roar!" lyric as if Prince was using some type of biblical analogy. If you watch Prince performing this song back during the PR days his facial expressions and hand gestures show that he was clearly referring to the "tootsie roll" he had in his pocket that was ready to "play". Doubtful that he had was making any type of biblical reference there. This was always a fun party song.


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Around The World In A Day - Toure quotes one of the lyrics as "no shouting" - wha????? Pretty sure the actual lyric is "no chivalry" biggrin I could be wrong, but I don't think so. Some lyric sites show "no shouting" and another shows "no traveling". To me, you can clearly hear him saying "chivalry".





I agree about the "1999" reference. Prince often talked about making "love until the world stops turning". It wasn't a reference to anything else but sex.

As far as "When Doves Cry", it's likely a direct reference to his lover (even in the movie it's during a montage of him pouting and working out his girl problems). But Toure's theories are interest to say the least; it could spawn interesting conversation about his childhood and his upbringing. Toure argued each line being directed at a different person (much like different verses in "Purple Rain" being toward different folks).

I'll give Toure credit for going deep on those things. Some of them certainly were more interesting than Prince allegedly timing his songs to mean something (like an ongoing thread right now).

I was (and am) part of the DTT Lyrics site. We always had "shouting".



Interestingly, everyone may be going “too deep” with When Doves Cry, because when Albert Magnoli discusses the song in an interview for the 20th anniversary release of PR, he stated that he had called Prince and told him he was going to do a montage scene in the film and he needed a song to fit those shots. He said Prince cane to him the next day with WDC. So, it’s also likely that the song was made strictly for that scene in the film. I’m sure it also connects with the dysfunctional relationship of his parents and comparing that to his own relationship with a woman, but it appears to have mainly been written for that montage in the film.
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The “no chivalry” lyric came from someone (I think an insider) who had posted a bunch of unreleased demos on YT with the lyrics shortly after Prince passed. If you really listen you can hear “chivalry” - Prince just pronounces it as “chevalry” - like it’s spelled with an e instead of an i.
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Reply #53 posted 05/05/19 5:32pm

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I have "Dance, Music, Sex, Romance" by Per Nilson" and I love it.

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Speaking of which, who is/was Per Nilson? Was he a fan? A journtalist? I haven't seen any other books by him.

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Reply #54 posted 05/05/19 5:40pm

violetcrush

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I have "Dance, Music, Sex, Romance" by Per Nilson" and I love it.


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Speaking of which, who is/was Per Nilson? Was he a fan? A journtalist? I haven't seen any other books by him.


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I believe he is a long-time super fan and “Prince historian”. He is well respected by all of the serious fans/collectors. I think he was also involved with Controversy magazine and Princevault.com, but I am not 100% sure on that. Duane Tudahl has mentioned him as a key resource, and Alan Leeds too.
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Did you recently buy the book? Really want to read it.
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Reply #55 posted 05/05/19 7:05pm

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violetcrush said:

lurker316 said:

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I have "Dance, Music, Sex, Romance" by Per Nilson" and I love it.

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Speaking of which, who is/was Per Nilson? Was he a fan? A journtalist? I haven't seen any other books by him.

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I believe he is a long-time super fan and “Prince historian”. He is well respected by all of the serious fans/collectors. I think he was also involved with Controversy magazine and Princevault.com, but I am not 100% sure on that. Duane Tudahl has mentioned him as a key resource, and Alan Leeds too. * Did you recently buy the book? Really want to read it.

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I bought it when it first came out. I have the first edition (2001).

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Reply #56 posted 05/06/19 4:34am

violetcrush

lurker316 said:



violetcrush said:


lurker316 said:

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I have "Dance, Music, Sex, Romance" by Per Nilson" and I love it.


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Speaking of which, who is/was Per Nilson? Was he a fan? A journtalist? I haven't seen any other books by him.


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I believe he is a long-time super fan and “Prince historian”. He is well respected by all of the serious fans/collectors. I think he was also involved with Controversy magazine and Princevault.com, but I am not 100% sure on that. Duane Tudahl has mentioned him as a key resource, and Alan Leeds too. * Did you recently buy the book? Really want to read it.

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I bought it when it first came out. I have the first edition (2001).


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Lucky!! smile
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Reply #57 posted 05/06/19 5:38am

violetcrush

TrivialPursuut said:
“I was (and am) part of the DTT Lyrics site. We always had "shouting".”
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TrivialP : I listened to ATWIAD closely again and the lyrics def appear to be:
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(Background singers) ooh la la, ooh la la la-la
(Prince) no “sha sha”
(Prince & Background) no chivalry, love is dead, no no chivalry
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He’s pronouncing “chivalry” like “chavilry” - sort of the opposite of the way it’s spelled and pronounced, which is why it sounds like “shouting” or “traveling”.
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When I first saw the “chivalry” lyric posted with the song on YT (by the guy who posted a bunch of the unreleased songs) I thought, no that can’t be right. When I listened closely a few more times then I could hear it.
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Reply #58 posted 05/06/19 12:15pm

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I have a couple good books about the Purple Rain era (e.g. Tudahl's and Light's books) and the '80s in general (e.g. Nilson's book). And it sounds like there are some books that give you snapshots of the '90s (e.g. Walsh's and Mayte's books).

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But is there anything that touchs on the 2000s? The last 15 years or so of his career? The only one I know of is Prince: The Man and His Music, but Matt Thorne.

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I was one of those fans who became disillusioned in the '90s and stopped closely following Prince. But after he passed away my interest was reignited, and now I'm back to being a hardcord fan. So while I'm pretty knowledgable about his music and all the behind-the-scenes stuff that happened up to about 2000, from there things get a bit murky for me.

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I've purchased all of his post-2000 music, so now I am familiar with all the songs, but I don't know the stories behind them the way I know the stories like the evolution of Dream Factor and Camille into Crystal Ball and then into Sign o the Times. I'd love to read a book like Nilson's DanceMusicSexRomance or Tudal's Sessions Book about the 2000 era, but nothing along those lines seems to exist. Again, Thorne's book is the only one I know of that has even some detail on that era.

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I have a couple good books about the Purple Rain era (e.g. Tudahl's and Light's books) and the '80s in general (e.g. Nilson's book). And it sounds like there are some books that give you snapshots of the '90s (e.g. Walsh's and Mayte's books).


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But is there anything that touchs on the 2000s? The last 15 years or so of his career? The only one I know of is Prince: The Man and His Music, but Matt Thorne.


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I was one of those fans who became disillusioned in the '90s and stopped closely following Prince. But after he passed away my interest was reignited, and now I'm back to being a hardcord fan. So while I'm pretty knowledgable about his music and all the behind-the-scenes stuff that happened up to about 2000, from there things get a bit murky for me.


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I've purchased all of his post-2000 music, so now I am familiar with all the songs, but I don't know the stories behind them the way I know the stories like the evolution of Dream Factor and Camille into Crystal Ball and then into Sign o the Times. I'd love to read a book like Nilson's DanceMusicSexRomance or Tudal's Sessions Book about the 2000 era, but nothing along those lines seems to exist. Again, Thorne's book is the only one I know of that has even some detail on that era.


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This is exactly my story. I was a huge fan through the 80’s and lost interest in the 90’s. I’ve since gone back to his 90’s work (some great stuff there) and through the 2000’s.
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I read Matt Thorne’s book. He covers Prince’s entire career up to 2013-14. Most of the earlier info he gets from other sources, but he has great info from Susannah Melvoin about Crystal Ball. Loved Alan Light’s and Duane’s books too. Touré had a great “round table” interview with Duane and Ruth Arzate his personal assistant/mgr from 2004 through 2010. She had done good stories about that period - 3121, Super Bowl, etc.
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