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Reply #30 posted 02/24/19 10:51am

luvsexy4all

why doesnt wB at least release a 12" extended versions COMPLETE set??? every MF would buy that

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Reply #31 posted 02/24/19 11:22am

Ugot2shakesumt
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luvsexy4all said:

why doesnt wB at least release a 12" extended versions COMPLETE set??? every MF would buy that



They would replace all current Prince tracks on streaming services for me that’s for sure! It would give the biggest hits a new bounce. But “buy” no one buys music music anymore.
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Reply #32 posted 02/24/19 11:27am

OperatingTheta
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luvsexy4all said:

why doesnt wB at least release a 12" extended versions COMPLETE set??? every MF would buy that



Neither WB or The Estate consult fans and are generally ignorant.

We're likely perceived as too small in numbers to monetise, and as they seem unable contractually to establish a premium subscriber service for the hardcore they are instead trying to cater to casual fans and the masses.

The remastered '1999' deluxe album with unreleased tracks was shelved for a short rehearsal tape. That's the general mentality at work here.
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Reply #33 posted 02/25/19 1:01pm

banishedones66
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TwiliteKid said:

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

Do your own research & follow his twitter feeds. It really is THAT simple! End of discussion. Stay on topic & contribute something of substance please.

Jesus, you’re thick. I’ve done the research — that’s how I can state that his posts have been nothing more than speculation and regurgitating published news for years now — and it’s because of that research that I wonder why anyone would believe what he has to say on this subject, which in turn makes this thread pointless. Get it??

From October:

http://www.startribune.com/members-of-prince-s-estate-ask-president-trump-to-not-use-his-music-at-rallies/497193471/

The statement, sent out via Twitter, read, “The Prince Estate has never given permission to President Trump or the White House to use Prince’s songs and have requested that they cease all use immediately.”

The message was reportedly sent on behalf of the estate by longtime Prince associate Jeremiah Freed, aka Dr. Funkenberry, and it was retweeted by Prince’s brother, Omarr Baker. It was sent in reaction to the Trump rally in Mississippi last week, not this week’s event in Pennsylvania.

He also had the Rave in2 & Un2 news of both being released on vinyl and a special cd set in December & again in January & hours before the offical announcement last Friday by the estate, he put out the info. https://www.instagram.com/p/BtB64GLFU95/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

So it seems he has connections to the family and estate and perhaps more. He was also there at Paisley Park the weekend before he passed as Prince flew him there to be there and tweeted to him before the place incident so that is quite a while after 3rdeyegirl debuted.

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Reply #34 posted 03/09/19 12:37am

drfunkenberry

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

..as per his twitter exchanges last night.

Sounds bloody complicated. Official releases & vault tracks split between Sony Legacy & WB with a whole bunch of ownership & legal issues in the middle. For now expect releases on coloured vinyl!

Best hope sounds like the Tidal compilation if that ever gets released?

Meanwhile....hardcore gets older & interest starts to wane.

Just want to clarify...no new unreleased vault material like say...2014/15 output.....now...older vault material that some may have on bootleg already will see the light of day on a couple comps & also deluxe editions via WB. Sometimes stuff gets lost in translation is all. wink

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Reply #35 posted 03/09/19 1:59am

Romeoblu

drfunkenberry said:



PURPLEIZED3121 said:


..as per his twitter exchanges last night.


Sounds bloody complicated. Official releases & vault tracks split between Sony Legacy & WB with a whole bunch of ownership & legal issues in the middle. For now expect releases on coloured vinyl!


Best hope sounds like the Tidal compilation if that ever gets released?



Meanwhile....hardcore gets older & interest starts to wane.



Just want to clarify...no new unreleased vault material like say...2014/15 output.....now...older vault material that some may have on bootleg already will see the light of day on a couple comps & also deluxe editions via WB. Sometimes stuff gets lost in translation is all. wink



Thanks for the clarification. I did assume that's what you meant in light of the rumored 1999 release.
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Reply #36 posted 03/09/19 3:14am

love2thenines2
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Romeoblu said:

drfunkenberry said:

Just want to clarify...no new unreleased vault material like say...2014/15 output.....now...older vault material that some may have on bootleg already will see the light of day on a couple comps & also deluxe editions via WB. Sometimes stuff gets lost in translation is all. wink

Thanks for the clarification. I did assume that's what you meant in light of the rumored 1999 release.

1 or two real deluxe editions are coming thru WBR this year = 1999 deluxe & before end of 2021.....but after ??? big DOUBTS !!

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Reply #37 posted 03/09/19 3:33am

rafael

love2thenines2003 said:

Romeoblu said:

drfunkenberry said: Thanks for the clarification. I did assume that's what you meant in light of the rumored 1999 release.

1 or two real deluxe editions are coming thru WBR this year = 1999 deluxe & before end of 2021.....but after ??? big DOUBTS !!

cant wait for that release....

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Reply #38 posted 03/09/19 5:41am

PURPLEIZED3121

drfunkenberry said:

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

..as per his twitter exchanges last night.

Sounds bloody complicated. Official releases & vault tracks split between Sony Legacy & WB with a whole bunch of ownership & legal issues in the middle. For now expect releases on coloured vinyl!

Best hope sounds like the Tidal compilation if that ever gets released?

Meanwhile....hardcore gets older & interest starts to wane.

Just want to clarify...no new unreleased vault material like say...2014/15 output.....now...older vault material that some may have on bootleg already will see the light of day on a couple comps & also deluxe editions via WB. Sometimes stuff gets lost in translation is all. wink

Quick question to clarify...what do we think will be released this year? [apprecaite it won't be 100% accurate but as a best guess?]

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Reply #39 posted 03/09/19 11:59am

IstenSzek

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drfunkenberry said:

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

..as per his twitter exchanges last night.

Sounds bloody complicated. Official releases & vault tracks split between Sony Legacy & WB with a whole bunch of ownership & legal issues in the middle. For now expect releases on coloured vinyl!

Best hope sounds like the Tidal compilation if that ever gets released?

Meanwhile....hardcore gets older & interest starts to wane.

Just want to clarify...no new unreleased vault material like say...2014/15 output.....now...older vault material that some may have on bootleg already will see the light of day on a couple comps & also deluxe editions via WB. Sometimes stuff gets lost in translation is all. wink


thumbs up!


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Reply #40 posted 03/10/19 7:56pm

Moonbeam

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drfunkenberry said:

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

..as per his twitter exchanges last night.

Sounds bloody complicated. Official releases & vault tracks split between Sony Legacy & WB with a whole bunch of ownership & legal issues in the middle. For now expect releases on coloured vinyl!

Best hope sounds like the Tidal compilation if that ever gets released?

Meanwhile....hardcore gets older & interest starts to wane.

Just want to clarify...no new unreleased vault material like say...2014/15 output.....now...older vault material that some may have on bootleg already will see the light of day on a couple comps & also deluxe editions via WB. Sometimes stuff gets lost in translation is all. wink


Hmmm, I didn't think about any more compliations being issued any time soon. I guess the implication is that they'd be WB-era comps? If so, I wonder if they'd release something like "themed" compilations given that there are already several standard "greatest hits" packages.

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Reply #41 posted 03/11/19 2:17am

JorisE73

love2thenines2003 said:

Romeoblu said:

drfunkenberry said: Thanks for the clarification. I did assume that's what you meant in light of the rumored 1999 release.

1 or two real deluxe editions are coming thru WBR this year = 1999 deluxe & before end of 2021.....but after ??? big DOUBTS !!


With 1999 Deluxe I realy hope they learned from teh Purple Rain Deluxe mess, but I doubt it.
Just another cash grab release.

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Reply #42 posted 03/11/19 5:17am

sulls

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Militant had the scoop on what tracks would be on PR Deluxe. Hopefully, he knows or can get the scoop on 1999 Deluxe.

"I like to watch."
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Reply #43 posted 03/11/19 6:13am

love2thenines2
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sulls said:

Militant had the scoop on what tracks would be on PR Deluxe. Hopefully, he knows or can get the scoop on 1999 Deluxe.



At this stage...I'm sure he has not the Scoop!
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Reply #44 posted 03/11/19 6:30am

TheTruth123

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

TwiliteKid said:

Why do people still think Dr Funk has any insider info? I see no evidence of that.

oh come on, he is really well connected & was on close personal terms with P. Likewise he has clear communication lines with the family.

Move along.....

I never thought he was on close person terms with P. I think he is someone Prince used in busienss to get out stuff, and Prince cared about him of course, but I don't think they were "close".

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Reply #45 posted 03/11/19 7:29am

Se7en

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I'm really looking forward to the Tidal album. Even if it's HnR3, I'm good with that.

Even with the already-released songs on HnR1 & HnR2, there were quite a few great new songs spread throughout.

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Reply #46 posted 03/11/19 1:40pm

billymeade

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Se7en said:

I'm really looking forward to the Tidal album. Even if it's HnR3, I'm good with that.

Even with the already-released songs on HnR1 & HnR2, there were quite a few great new songs spread throughout.

I would wager that the Tidal album is just gonna be a collection of the songs he released on Tidal already.

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Reply #47 posted 03/11/19 2:30pm

IstenSzek

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billymeade said:

Se7en said:

I'm really looking forward to the Tidal album. Even if it's HnR3, I'm good with that.

Even with the already-released songs on HnR1 & HnR2, there were quite a few great new songs spread throughout.

I would wager that the Tidal album is just gonna be a collection of the songs he released on Tidal already.


i'm starting to think the whole tidal deal is dead. especially since HNR1 hasn't been on spotify
anymore since a few months.


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Reply #48 posted 03/18/19 4:15am

sms130

drfunkenberry said:

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

..as per his twitter exchanges last night.

Sounds bloody complicated. Official releases & vault tracks split between Sony Legacy & WB with a whole bunch of ownership & legal issues in the middle. For now expect releases on coloured vinyl!

Best hope sounds like the Tidal compilation if that ever gets released?

Meanwhile....hardcore gets older & interest starts to wane.

Just want to clarify...no new unreleased vault material like say...2014/15 output.....now...older vault material that some may have on bootleg already will see the light of day on a couple comps & also deluxe editions via WB. Sometimes stuff gets lost in translation is all. wink

Some of those distribution rights that Warner have (of Prince's Warner released back catalog) will begin to expire and will go to Sony in 2021. I think that's part of the reason behind those re-issues thru Warner. Let's hope that the project that's gonna be released on Tidal will get a physical release via Sony/Legacy at some point.

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Reply #49 posted 03/18/19 8:06am

PURPLEIZED3121

sms130 said:

drfunkenberry said:

Just want to clarify...no new unreleased vault material like say...2014/15 output.....now...older vault material that some may have on bootleg already will see the light of day on a couple comps & also deluxe editions via WB. Sometimes stuff gets lost in translation is all. wink

Some of those distribution rights that Warner have (of Prince's Warner released back catalog) will begin to expire and will go to Sony in 2021. I think that's part of the reason behind those re-issues thru Warner. Let's hope that the project that's gonna be released on Tidal will get a physical release via Sony/Legacy at some point.

i've just given up , if something drops great if not I have enough to get by. Each passing the market will continue to shrink unless they sort some great product out asap.

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Reply #50 posted 03/18/19 10:21am

PurpleBlackmon

I think the Prince estate is doing pretty good despite that piano album. i think The Michael Jackson estate could do more, as far as putting out singles and albums. The question is- Is the Rick James estate even trying to do anything?

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Reply #51 posted 03/18/19 11:17am

pricetag

TheTruth123 said:

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

oh come on, he is really well connected & was on close personal terms with P. Likewise he has clear communication lines with the family.

Move along.....

I never thought he was on close person terms with P. I think he is someone Prince used in busienss to get out stuff, and Prince cared about him of course, but I don't think they were "close".

Prince, or his team, could have stepped up as far as Funkenberry was concerned. Funkenberry worked hard to promote Prince..maybe they thought he wanted it too bad...and kept a respectful distance.

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Reply #52 posted 03/18/19 1:05pm

onlyforaminute

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Sounds like the only reason for anything to take that long would be because "they're" trying to figure out how to cut it up and rework it.

Time keeps on slipping into the future...


This moment is all there is...
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Reply #53 posted 03/29/19 3:24am

PURPLEIZED3121

honestly have given up. The simple fact is that they have taken 3 years & there is no sign of anything major happening. Grateful for what we have been given so far & I guess the Bowie model is being followed. I think we have been more than well served by bootleggers for live video & soundboard recordings...the 1 true gap that needs to be filled is the song content from the vault across the years.

Seriously how hard can it be to do another Crystal Ball type project on line ?

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Reply #54 posted 04/02/19 9:58am

Se7en

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billymeade said:

Se7en said:

I'm really looking forward to the Tidal album. Even if it's HnR3, I'm good with that.

Even with the already-released songs on HnR1 & HnR2, there were quite a few great new songs spread throughout.

I would wager that the Tidal album is just gonna be a collection of the songs he released on Tidal already.


I'd agree that Free Urself and If (Eye) Could Get Ur Attention will definitely be on the next Tidal release, but what else are you thinking would be included?

Wasn't Oui Can Love on Tidal for a hot second?

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Reply #55 posted 04/03/19 8:05am

embmmusic

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PURPLEIZED3121 said:

Grateful for what we have been given so far & I guess the Bowie model is being followed.

I wish we could get comprehensive box sets like we've had for Bowie the past 4 years. Whilst they don't contain any unreleased music, it's great to have a collection of remastered albums in a set like that.

Check out The Collector's Guide to Prince on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/p...4ldzxwlEuy
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Reply #56 posted 04/06/19 10:13am

eyewishuheaven

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embmmusic said:

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

Grateful for what we have been given so far & I guess the Bowie model is being followed.

I wish we could get comprehensive box sets like we've had for Bowie the past 4 years. Whilst they don't contain any unreleased music, it's great to have a collection of remastered albums in a set like that.


yes

Remastered albums, 12"s, and single edits with nice booklets to keep the money coming in while we wait for them to unsnarl the unreleased goodies.

I'm standing here cash in hand, ffs.

PRINCE: the only man who could wear high heels and makeup and STILL steal your woman!
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Reply #57 posted 04/11/19 10:06am

PURPLEIZED3121

eyewishuheaven said:

embmmusic said:

I wish we could get comprehensive box sets like we've had for Bowie the past 4 years. Whilst they don't contain any unreleased music, it's great to have a collection of remastered albums in a set like that.


yes

Remastered albums, 12"s, and single edits with nice booklets to keep the money coming in while we wait for them to unsnarl the unreleased goodies.

I'm standing here cash in hand, ffs.

my cash filled hand in getting numb!

Any updates...anyone?!

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Reply #58 posted 04/16/19 4:53am

PURPLEIZED3121

As per the Estate thread that has been stickyfied on here...expect nowt soon! Family members & Commerica seemigly at war....all seems to be in limbo. Have to say reading tyhe redacted report Commercia might well be charging huge fees BUT seem to have a plan & structure in place....the so called Heirs seem obsessed with $. I might be wrong on this BUT that's how it reads.

In short...expect NOTHING from the vault any time soon.

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Reply #59 posted 04/16/19 5:28pm

billymeade

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Se7en said:



billymeade said:




Se7en said:


I'm really looking forward to the Tidal album. Even if it's HnR3, I'm good with that.

Even with the already-released songs on HnR1 & HnR2, there were quite a few great new songs spread throughout.




I would wager that the Tidal album is just gonna be a collection of the songs he released on Tidal already.




I'd agree that Free Urself and If (Eye) Could Get Ur Attention will definitely be on the next Tidal release, but what else are you thinking would be included?

Wasn't Oui Can Love on Tidal for a hot second?


Maybe those reloaded versions, and "What If"
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