Lovejunky said:

Fascinating ..Just came onto my facebook feed...

WOW...

I am conflicted with this video.

Jews have to be buried before sundown.

Figure it out. Explain the same logistics.

Most of the responses onYouTube turned it into a murdered thread. P was not murdered.

Also, if you believe this video, do you believe the one in which she claims Capriccio is P's son?

[Edited 1/20/19 8:27am]

The woman in the video says "you don't have an accidental homicide," but doesn't comment further on how the law works.

Just checking that people understand that regardless of the counterintuitive sound to the language, and especially in overdose cases like this, a homicide charge doesn't require anybody to have attempted to kill the victim. So in this case, a homicide investigation can happen absent any reason to suspect that anyone may have tried to kill Prince.

[Edited 1/19/19 23:05pm]

2hr window to organise everything....Really!!!!! - well I suppose Prince was known to organise a whole tour at the last minute.

What's a pain in the neck with this whole situation is that a certain few know what went down and have all moved on from it, the rest of us can all keep reading into it and try to make some sort of sense of it, finding this more of a head fkkk now but glued to the net in case something comes out, unbelievable.....

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

AnnaStesia10 said: Glad you posted this. Agree with you. His death was no accident and IMO was not his doing. I have been listening to all the Piano and microphone Australia shows....he performed great not like someone in trouble with an out of control drug habit needing rehab. The media lies hurt so much, he deserved better...

You must have not looked at the photos, which clearly showed P was having serious problems.

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Exactly, how can people see these photos and not see that this man had problems? I remember the first three days after he died, when the OD wasn't comfirmed yet. I visited my mother and we were on the couch, watching the news and saw a photo of him and my mother just said: "He looks really sick there." Wich he did, he didn't look healthy, he was very thin.

ThatWhiteDude said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

You must have not looked at the photos, which clearly showed P was having serious problems.

[Edited 1/19/19 21:56pm]

Exactly, how can people see these photos and not see that this man had problems? I remember the first three days after he died, when the OD wasn't comfirmed yet. I visited my mother and we were on the couch, watching the news and saw a photo of him and my mother just said: "He looks really sick there." Wich he did, he didn't look healthy, he was very thin.

I don't agree with this assesment on the reason for how thin Prince was before he died. Many addicts lose weight and become very thin.

I am providing the link below to US Library of Medicine article on the side effects of opiods.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18443635

In addition to the above, there are various aspects of his health mentioned within the investigation but none that mention life threatening illness.

I've seen that video before but I did re-watch it.

She had questions on the time of death. I think the time of death was 10:07am (I'm not sure on the minute). The medical people that were there estimated by the rigor that he had probably died 6 hours before that. She was questioning why the time difference.

Prince's death was unattended, so there had to be medical personnel that could call the time of death when it was confirmed. It's quite normal for this to happen. I'm surprised she didn't know that.

darlingnikkkki said:

Reading these theads is like beating a dead horse, or in this case, a dead Prince. Let him rest in peace already...

leec1 said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

Exactly, how can people see these photos and not see that this man had problems? I remember the first three days after he died, when the OD wasn't comfirmed yet. I visited my mother and we were on the couch, watching the news and saw a photo of him and my mother just said: "He looks really sick there." Wich he did, he didn't look healthy, he was very thin.

I don't agree with this assesment on the reason for how thin Prince was before he died. Many addicts lose weight and become very thin.

I am providing the link below to US Library of Medicine article on the side effects of opiods.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18443635

In addition to the above, there are various aspects of his health mentioned within the investigation but none that mention life threatening illness.

Uhm I didn't say he had some underlying illness or something. I just wrote down what my mother said when she saw the pictures after he died. We didn't even know anything about the OD or that he was addicted. The news channels over here still talked about the flu.

funksterr said:

luvsexy4all said:

if there are parties responsible then God will do a number on them...i just want the truth

No you don't. The truth is bizarre AF. It's illogical. You won't accept it even when you hear it.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Lovejunky said:

Fascinating ..Just came onto my facebook feed...

WOW...

I am conflicted with this video.

Jews have to be buried before sundown.

Figure it out. Explain the same logistics.

Most of the responses onYouTube turned it into a murdered thread. P was not murdered.

Also, if you believe this video, do you believe the one in which she claims Capriccio is P's son?

[Edited 1/20/19 8:27am]

I dont know what to believe...

I was captured by her claims that Princes Official Death Certificate is no where to be found..

I then googled...sure enough we can find WHitneys, Michaels Tom Petty,s ..anyone you can name..

you will find their Official DEATH Certificate..

but Prince ?

We can only find a non certified certificate of Death

WHY ????

Lovejunky said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I am conflicted with this video.

Jews have to be buried before sundown.

Figure it out. Explain the same logistics.

Most of the responses onYouTube turned it into a murdered thread. P was not murdered.

Also, if you believe this video, do you believe the one in which she claims Capriccio is P's son?

[Edited 1/20/19 8:27am]

I dont know what to believe...

I was captured by her claims that Princes Official Death Certificate is no where to be found..

I then googled...sure enough we can find WHitneys, Michaels Tom Petty,s ..anyone you can name..

you will find their Official DEATH Certificate..

but Prince ?

We can only find a non certified certificate of Death

WHY ????

Within the Prince death investigation files released by Carver County: Electronic Document 5 files in Miscellaneous documents is a copy of the medical examiner's death certificate.

ThatWhiteDude said:

leec1 said:

I don't agree with this assesment on the reason for how thin Prince was before he died. Many addicts lose weight and become very thin.

I am providing the link below to US Library of Medicine article on the side effects of opiods.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18443635

In addition to the above, there are various aspects of his health mentioned within the investigation but none that mention life threatening illness.

Uhm I didn't say he had some underlying illness or something. I just wrote down what my mother said when she saw the pictures after he died. We didn't even know anything about the OD or that he was addicted. The news channels over here still talked about the flu.

No you didn't say he had an illness but it seemed to be implied by the statement you indicated your mother made.

Lovejunky said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I am conflicted with this video.

Jews have to be buried before sundown.

Figure it out. Explain the same logistics.

Most of the responses onYouTube turned it into a murdered thread. P was not murdered.

Also, if you believe this video, do you believe the one in which she claims Capriccio is P's son?

[Edited 1/20/19 8:27am]

I dont know what to believe...

I was captured by her claims that Princes Official Death Certificate is no where to be found..

I then googled...sure enough we can find WHitneys, Michaels Tom Petty,s ..anyone you can name..

you will find their Official DEATH Certificate..

but Prince ?

We can only find a non certified certificate of Death

WHY ????

I believe the family has the official death certificate. I think ISLIJAG had stated before due to MN law it won't be made public for 30 years. (?)

Unless there is a leak of the official DC, I probably won't see it in my lifetime.

leec1 said:

Lovejunky said:

I dont know what to believe...

I was captured by her claims that Princes Official Death Certificate is no where to be found..

I then googled...sure enough we can find WHitneys, Michaels Tom Petty,s ..anyone you can name..

you will find their Official DEATH Certificate..

but Prince ?

We can only find a non certified certificate of Death

WHY ????

Within the Prince death investigation files released by Carver County: Electronic Document 5 files in Miscellaneous documents is a copy of the medical examiner's death certificate.

NO...that is the NON Certified Record of Death...

Official death certificate should look like this..

Lovejunky said:

leec1 said:

Within the Prince death investigation files released by Carver County: Electronic Document 5 files in Miscellaneous documents is a copy of the medical examiner's death certificate.

NO...that is the NON Certified Record of Death...

Official death certificate should look like this..

No, the copy in the death investigation file released does not state at the top Non-Certified Record of Death.

It states: Midwest Medical Examiner's office

Release of Public Data

Mn Statue 13.83 Subd 2

On Page 3 of this thread, it shows you where you can download Document 5 from the cloud.

The Certificate of Death you are showing in this message was given to the family.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

stpaisios said:

darlingnikkkki said:

Reading these theads is like beating a dead horse, or in this case, a dead Prince. Let him rest in peace already...

Conspiracy theories are very favorite bait for majority of ppl... it was there as long as we know about this thing called civilization. Unfortunately, are beloved Prince was addict who gone too far. I read about drug/oploids addiction patients experience, doctors explainations, and i couldnt believe how much symptoms you could trace in Prince life from 2009 onwards. There is a video of Prince during his shows in France, when he answered questions to journalists. In one question, journalist was aksing Prince what keeps him going as a musican, what pleasure he has in doing music after all this years or something like that, and he answered in criptic manner about not being able to sleep, reality is always better than the dream. Well, someones sleep should not be anyone problem, but its not just about sleep. In later interviews in 2012/13/14 he talks about no need for sleep, eat or even drink water. His monk like life was seen as mysticism (and i really believe Prince was a real mystic in our secular-society, rarest form of real genius), but guess what. All experiences i read on topic about oploids/drug addicts are totally similar. They all have phases not needing to eat, drink and getting sleep. In that state, if you are not getting help, you are going trough vey severe forms of hybrid personality disorders. I dont like psychological turn on Prince, its very dangerous zone, but i think he was always in mild schizoid place. So, we need to accept as fans that side of story. Even Prince acknowledged that he needed help, we are sad it was too late. But who knows why is that over in that way? We dont have answers for everything, especcialy when in comes to humans.

yes true, it all caught up with him in the end

BTW I forgot to mention this...the video on the other page where she discusses how could they possibly get the purple boxes together so quickly for the memorial on Saturday...well, Prince gave out those boxes at PP for his Piano and Mic Gala so the boxes had already been prepared.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

BTW I forgot to mention this...the video on the other page where she discusses how could they possibly get the purple boxes together so quickly for the memorial on Saturday...well, Prince gave out those boxes at PP for his Piano and Mic Gala so the boxes had already been prepared.

[Edited 1/22/19 0:21am]

June7 said:

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rednblue said:

SpamelaAnusorn said:

ok I don't know what this means

When it comes to word play, maybe urine over your head?

Maybe u mom just like pineapple taste

XxAxX said:

rednblue said:

When it comes to word play, maybe urine over your head?

maybe ole Spamula simply hasn't ma-turd enough to understand yet

maybe u can learn to read and spell somebody name and now Prince is crying

again I bring back my original point - think about the quality of life he would ahve had if he had lived? - it would have been a nightmare.

Also, as we know he lived through his lyrics & spoke to us through his songs....the biggest clues lie in AOA of course. Truly belive he was ready.

sick of conspiracy theories too. The man was in incredible pain, he grew dependent on meds [did he enjoy the highs? - we can only speculate) , he got others/forced others to get him pills of various kinds, it all got out of hand & he sadly passed. Yes there were 3 or 4 very shady people in his life at the end AND during the investigation [Phaedra, Meron & Kirky] but I maintain they were only covering their asses.

At Moline P had the chance to get help but he chose not to..sad but true. Yes Judith Hill should NEVER have left him, likewise Kirky J..BUT again you can't force yourself on to someone who is in denial or just wont accept help.

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

again I bring back my original point - think about the quality of life he would ahve had if he had lived? - it would have been a nightmare.

Also, as we know he lived through his lyrics & spoke to us through his songs....the biggest clues lie in AOA of course. Truly belive he was ready.

Sometimes I think the same. I am stuck on the dr visit on the 20th, when Prince and Dr. S had a lengthy talk about withdrawals. I am curious if reality sat in quick and hard with that conversation. Plus the remark Prince made to Kirk in the Escalade about not being about to beat it (paraphrasing) and needing a drink.

If there is truth to that, that Prince was ready to go, then there can be speculation that Prince knew what was in the pills or just took enough vicodin (Watson) to do the job.

Unfortunately, there is a lot of missing information and CC did not really do a thorough investigation on many leads.

nelcp777 said:

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

again I bring back my original point - think about the quality of life he would ahve had if he had lived? - it would have been a nightmare.

Also, as we know he lived through his lyrics & spoke to us through his songs....the biggest clues lie in AOA of course. Truly belive he was ready.

Sometimes I think the same. I am stuck on the dr visit on the 20th, when Prince and Dr. S had a lengthy talk about withdrawals. I am curious if reality sat in quick and hard with that conversation. Plus the remark Prince made to Kirk in the Escalade about not being about to beat it (paraphrasing) and needing a drink.

If there is truth to that, that Prince was ready to go, then there can be speculation that Prince knew what was in the pills or just took enough vicodin (Watson) to do the job.

Unfortunately, there is a lot of missing information and CC did not really do a thorough investigation on many leads.

didnt prince freely go to walgreens to fill his own prescriptions? why would he need kirk to use his name then?

42Kristen said:

much needed.

Never in a million years did I thnk it would end this way. Saw him c40 times in concert/aftershows etc. The pain he must have been in in the last 5 years or so beggars belief...but he kept giving.

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

42Kristen said:

much needed.

Never in a million years did I thnk it would end this way. Saw him c40 times in concert/aftershows etc. The pain he must have been in in the last 5 years or so beggars belief...but he kept giving.

THAT is what hurts the most...

Just a truly incredible human...

what else to say...?