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Reply #210 posted 02/22/19 10:36am

darkroman

Finally an OFFICIAL press release.

This has to be the worse kept secret.... EVER:


https://www.legacyrecordi...pril-26-2/


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Reply #211 posted 02/22/19 10:44am

darkroman

..and a link to the OFFICIAL merchandise for pre-order.

I wish the estate would stop producing PURPLE vinyl!!! Prince did one track with the bloomin' word 'purple' in the title and it has plagued us fans for decades... stop it now!!!

https://store.princeestat.../dept/rave


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Reply #212 posted 02/22/19 11:16am

goosepumble

My least favourite Prince record and probably one of the worst records I've heard in general.

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Reply #213 posted 02/22/19 1:02pm

Lianachan

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Pointless release, really.
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Reply #214 posted 02/22/19 3:30pm

Rimshottbob

Lianachan said:

Pointless release, really.

Actually, it's not a pointless release. Why is it pointless? Because you don't like the album?

It makes perfect sense to get all of Prince's albums back in print... it has to happen at some point or other... so when should it happen?

This release makes sense, especially since Rave In2 only ever had a very narrow release.

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Reply #215 posted 02/22/19 4:00pm

Lianachan

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Rimshottbob said:



Lianachan said:


Pointless release, really.


Actually, it's not a pointless release. Why is it pointless? Because you don't like the album?



It makes perfect sense to get all of Prince's albums back in print... it has to happen at some point or other... so when should it happen?



This release makes sense, especially since Rave In2 only ever had a very narrow release.




There’s nothing new here. It’s nothing to do with how good or bad these albums might be. I’d prefer vault releases, personally. Deluxe versions of released albums, similar to the Purple Rain release, as well as proper releases of other abandoned projects.
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Reply #216 posted 02/22/19 4:29pm

sulls

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Ordered mine...

"I like to watch."
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Reply #217 posted 02/22/19 9:31pm

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an

I suppose I'm going to grab these on vinyl at some point - but if these are in fact legacy releases it would have been the right opportunity to include additional material or at the very least new liner notes considering the legacy of each of the releases.

Compile some of the interviews or media that was done around each of the recordings - would've been great to get Septimo on an official release.
Talk to Ani diFranco, Chuck D, Eve, Gwen Stefani, Sheryl Crow etc
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Reply #218 posted 02/23/19 7:52am

MIRvmn

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I'm not interested in the vinyl but I might get the Ultimate Rave
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Reply #219 posted 02/23/19 9:54am

sexton

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I have the CDs/DVD already so not interested in rebuying those. I'll wait for the records if they get reissued on black vinyl.

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Reply #220 posted 02/23/19 10:56am

feeluupp

Just baffled that these legacy releases are just re releases for out of print albums... Why not go the extra mile and include unreleased, and real ULTIMATE sets, with concert footage, unreleased songs, etc...

It's just a quick cash grab, anything re released needs to include stuff from the vault, simple.

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Reply #221 posted 02/23/19 2:58pm

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Guessing the conversation at PP went like this:

"Shit, there's like 40 boxes of unsold Rave discs back here."

"Hold my beer."
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Reply #222 posted 02/23/19 3:01pm

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feeluupp said:

Why not go the extra mile and include unreleased, and real ULTIMATE sets, with concert footage, unreleased songs, etc...

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As has been said a kazillion times: Sony does not have the rights to those. Only to released stuff. And they couldn't even bother to include the remixes etc. on this "ultimate" set.

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Reply #223 posted 02/23/19 3:29pm

herb4

BartVanHemelen said:

feeluupp said:

Why not go the extra mile and include unreleased, and real ULTIMATE sets, with concert footage, unreleased songs, etc...

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As has been said a kazillion times: Sony does not have the rights to those. Only to released stuff. And they couldn't even bother to include the remixes etc. on this "ultimate" set.


Maybe cut people some slack for not memorizing who exactly owns the rights to what as a matter or course? Or just continue being an obnoxious jerk to everyone.

Your call.

I'm a little confused myself about who is in control of what material and how it's being handled but, obviously, I am not as learned as you are.

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Reply #224 posted 02/23/19 4:05pm

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sexton said:

I have the CDs/DVD already so not interested in rebuying those. I'll wait for the records if they get reissued on black vinyl.

Would you buy it if it was metallic blue instead of purple or viniyl? I understand that you probably find the purple vinyl not very creative and prefer black but metallic blue would be in tune with the color of that era (that suit, the lettering etc.).

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Reply #225 posted 02/23/19 10:21pm

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KoolEaze said:

sexton said:

I have the CDs/DVD already so not interested in rebuying those. I'll wait for the records if they get reissued on black vinyl.

Would you buy it if it was metallic blue instead of purple or viniyl? I understand that you probably find the purple vinyl not very creative and prefer black but metallic blue would be in tune with the color of that era (that suit, the lettering etc.).


I would buy a blue vinyl edition. A black vinyl release seemed more likely to me though if it were to be reissued again.

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Reply #226 posted 02/24/19 12:17am

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Reply #227 posted 02/24/19 12:36am

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herb4 said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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As has been said a kazillion times: Sony does not have the rights to those. Only to released stuff. And they couldn't even bother to include the remixes etc. on this "ultimate" set.


Maybe cut people some slack for not memorizing who exactly owns the rights to what as a matter or course? Or just continue being an obnoxious jerk to everyone.

Your call.

I'm a little confused myself about who is in control of what material and how it's being handled but, obviously, I am not as learned as you are.

.

There has been ONE press release about that deal. Is it too hard to read that?

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Reply #228 posted 02/24/19 1:32am

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feeluupp said:


yeah, you see, i'm gonna have to buy that.

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Reply #229 posted 02/24/19 2:03am

feeluupp

IstenSzek said:

feeluupp said:


yeah, you see, i'm gonna have to buy that.

It looks like nothing new... 2 new pictures, just the booklet from the DVD and cd of rave un2 and in2...

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Reply #230 posted 02/24/19 2:04am

feeluupp

BartVanHemelen said:

feeluupp said:

Why not go the extra mile and include unreleased, and real ULTIMATE sets, with concert footage, unreleased songs, etc...

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As has been said a kazillion times: Sony does not have the rights to those. Only to released stuff. And they couldn't even bother to include the remixes etc. on this "ultimate" set.

So at the end of the day what's the point for these reissues... So other fans that never had the chance to buy these physically...

It is a waste of opportunity to be honest.

So basically we got a re release of 3 of his most mediocre albums from the 2000's... Without the original booklet, and now we get rave un2 and in2 with the dvd, with 2 new pictures we never saw before and they label it ULTIMATE. neutral

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Reply #231 posted 02/24/19 5:57am

leecaldon

feeluupp said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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As has been said a kazillion times: Sony does not have the rights to those. Only to released stuff. And they couldn't even bother to include the remixes etc. on this "ultimate" set.

So at the end of the day what's the point for these reissues... So other fans that never had the chance to buy these physically...

It is a waste of opportunity to be honest.

So basically we got a re release of 3 of his most mediocre albums from the 2000's... Without the original booklet, and now we get rave un2 and in2 with the dvd, with 2 new pictures we never saw before and they label it ULTIMATE. neutral

Would have loved to get some of those Hot Wit U remixes ub CD quality (and it's a travesty that the Adam & Eve remix of TGRES isn't included - it's one of the best tracks of the era imo).

I wonder if there are any Rave 2000 outtakes sitting in the vault. That would have been interesting.

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Reply #232 posted 02/24/19 2:40pm

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What the hell are these folks doing? Seems they are actively trying 2 drive Princes fan away. This pure B.S. In my book.
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Reply #233 posted 02/24/19 3:22pm

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This is the first time that I haven't yet pre-ordered anything, which is really sad... Because man, I'm a compulsive buyer when it comes to Prince.

It just seems so... Boring. And clearly put together by people who don't give even the slightest fuck about the music. As has been said already, if you can't even cough up some new liner notes or include the BRILLIANT Adam and Eve remix of TGRES (not to fucking mention that if you're insistent on only doing colored vinyl without a black vinyl option, make the color appropriate to the album... This one should be the blue of the tight-ass body suit he's wearing, and anybody with a pulse knows that)...

If the estate can't even pretend that they care about his musical legacy as much as his ability to bring in quick cash, then I'm finding it increasingly easy to get my Prince merch fix through Etsy-like vendors, who put some heart in it at least...damn!
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Reply #234 posted 02/24/19 3:34pm

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theblueangel said:

This is the first time that I haven't yet pre-ordered anything, which is really sad... Because man, I'm a compulsive buyer when it comes to Prince. It just seems so... Boring. And clearly put together by people who don't give even the slightest fuck about the music. As has been said already, if you can't even cough up some new liner notes or include the BRILLIANT Adam and Eve remix of TGRES (not to fucking mention that if you're insistent on only doing colored vinyl without a black vinyl option, make the color appropriate to the album... This one should be the blue of the tight-ass body suit he's wearing, and anybody with a pulse knows that)... If the estate can't even pretend that they care about his musical legacy as much as his ability to bring in quick cash, then I'm finding it increasingly easy to get my Prince merch fix through Etsy-like vendors, who put some heart in it at least...damn!

Good points! But in order for Legacy & The estate too keep putting out Prince's(r.i.p.) vast catalog of allbums the fans have to continue to purchase them.

"That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when eye was doing the Purple Rain tour eye had a lot of people who eye knew eye'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream."prince
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Reply #235 posted 02/24/19 9:14pm

feeluupp

ChocolateBox3121 said:

theblueangel said:

This is the first time that I haven't yet pre-ordered anything, which is really sad... Because man, I'm a compulsive buyer when it comes to Prince. It just seems so... Boring. And clearly put together by people who don't give even the slightest fuck about the music. As has been said already, if you can't even cough up some new liner notes or include the BRILLIANT Adam and Eve remix of TGRES (not to fucking mention that if you're insistent on only doing colored vinyl without a black vinyl option, make the color appropriate to the album... This one should be the blue of the tight-ass body suit he's wearing, and anybody with a pulse knows that)... If the estate can't even pretend that they care about his musical legacy as much as his ability to bring in quick cash, then I'm finding it increasingly easy to get my Prince merch fix through Etsy-like vendors, who put some heart in it at least...damn!

Good points! But in order for Legacy & The estate too keep putting out Prince's(r.i.p.) vast catalog of allbums the fans have to continue to purchase them.

Purchase what we already have again and again and again??

I mean come on, at least add something new, a remix at least. I know the estate is in tangles and these guys own that, they can't use this, blah blah... But come one, 4 releases nothing new to bring? It's a joke really.

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Reply #236 posted 02/25/19 6:50am

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It's #45 on Amazon's Best selling Albums, ORG told me nobody cares lol

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Reply #237 posted 02/25/19 7:54am

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Who the hell buys DVDs anymore ... if you're gonna bother with a re-released at least stick the concert on blu-ray, ya cheapskates!!

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Reply #238 posted 02/25/19 9:01am

jaawwnn

feeluupp said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Good points! But in order for Legacy & The estate too keep putting out Prince's(r.i.p.) vast catalog of allbums the fans have to continue to purchase them.

Purchase what we already have again and again and again??

I mean come on, at least add something new, a remix at least. I know the estate is in tangles and these guys own that, they can't use this, blah blah... But come one, 4 releases nothing new to bring? It's a joke really.

These are just re-pressings with a purple vinyl gimmick on top, they're not new "releases" really and they're mostly not for you or I. I'll be buying Rave because I don't have Rave In2, I'd also get One Nite Alone and Goldnigga if they come out. I might get a few on black vinyl if they get released at a decent price but they probably won't. I say chill on this one. The RSD releases are more interesting.

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Reply #239 posted 02/25/19 3:27pm

herb4

DaveT said:

Who the hell buys DVDs anymore ... if you're gonna bother with a re-released at least stick the concert on blu-ray, ya cheapskates!!


Not me. I recently have taken to checking them out for free from the library. Not sure why I never thought of it before but fuck red box and PPV streams. Your local library has stuff for days.

When I DO buy DVD or blu rays, they're usually music since I know I'll watch them more than a few times. Lot of times though you can get really good deals on those 4 packs in discount bins or a buck a throw at flea markets.

I barely pay for any entertainment anymore beside occasionally live music. There's just SO MUCH STUFF out there so between YouTube and the library I'm set. I do have Netflix because I like stand up comedy and documentaries.

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