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Reply #180 posted 02/14/19 9:56am

jaypotton

herb4 said:

If they're gonna do vinyl the Rave one needs to be blue, TGE gold, Parade white on one side and black on the other, SoTT peach/black, Lovesexy pink..

Making everything purple shows a stunning lack of imagination.

I dunno what you do with GB, D&P or ATWIAD



Actually picture discs would be pretty sweet and if so Lovesexy needs to be polka dot and ATWIAD Paisley pattern!
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Reply #181 posted 02/16/19 6:45pm

lastdecember

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lastdecember said:


Not crazy about the RAVE album and time has not changed my feel for it. But the thing is that it was a attempt at being "Commercial" using Eve and Crow and Stefani and as far as selling units it did about the same number that Emancipation did granted that is 3 discs higher price, but for the amount of PR he did on Emancipation it had to be a huge let down it was not a mega seller, Prince was on that same type of number from Gold to Emacnipation and Rave all doing 500,000 units.



Emancipation was not a "BIG" MEGA seller because the record label EMI folded before the promotion of it was complete. But it still went DOUBLE PLATINUM! I actually attended the double platinum "Emancipation" party. I'd say that's a HUGE success for a brand new independent artist like Prince(r.i.p) had become.





No one is saying it was not a hit for an indie record, though EMI technically a major they were just handling the distribution and minor promo, everything was on him. BUT let’s also remember that the certifications are tripled and based on shipped , returns to the label of units not sold are not factored in. Also Prince dropped the ball here and again this was a flaw he always had, FOCUS, a lot was obviously happening in his world, but his choice of singles was not good at all, his touring with this 36 song epic album he never did more than 4-5 songs from this album and some gigs 2-3. So that is why I am saying Prince was selling what he sold on majors at that time consistently , from GOLD to Emancipation to Rave he was shipping 500,000 steady each time.

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Reply #182 posted 02/18/19 12:17pm

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First visual of "Ultimate Rave" (2CD / 1 DVD) Release date : April 5th

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Reply #183 posted 02/18/19 1:09pm

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LRC69 said:

First visual of "Ultimate Rave" (2CD / 1 DVD) Release date : April 5th

1507-1
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I love it
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Reply #184 posted 02/18/19 2:40pm

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LRC69 said:

First visual of "Ultimate Rave" (2CD / 1 DVD) Release date : April 5th

1507-1
[Edited 2/18/19 12:19pm]

Looks cool cool
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Reply #185 posted 02/18/19 4:40pm

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ah damnit, if there's new artwork i might have to actually buy it mad

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #186 posted 02/18/19 6:18pm

TheBoneRanger

LRC69 said:

First visual of "Ultimate Rave" (2CD / 1 DVD) Release date : April 5th 1507-1.jpg [Edited 2/18/19 12:19pm]

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We gonna shake and shake and shake
Until we're both deranged
With endorphins
This is the ultimate rave

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I'm glad to see these later period albums aren't being overlooked by the estate.

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Reply #187 posted 02/18/19 8:19pm

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Is this domestic or just overseas? Is the estate even in on it or is it 3 discs slapped together in a case, I have seen this done a lot with packaging cd and dvds and calling it a new issue

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Reply #188 posted 02/19/19 5:04am

LRC69

In France, preorders are now open :

For "Ultimate Rave" (CD Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic + CD Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic + DVD Rave Un2 The Year 2000) : https://musique.fnac.com/...Y5BFpL5Ta0

For "Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic" Vinyl : https://musique.fnac.com/...OgPNlYDN7c

For "Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic" Vinyl : https://musique.fnac.com/...yzwKMD0xjk

The release date has been postponed to April 26th, coinciding with the first day of the 2019 Celebration in Minneapolis.

[Edited 2/19/19 5:05am]

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Reply #189 posted 02/19/19 9:54am

PURPLEIZED3121

IstenSzek said:

ah damnit, if there's new artwork i might have to actually buy it mad

totally agree.

See, literally a bit of new artwork can entice us hard core...when will the estate learn!!

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Reply #190 posted 02/19/19 10:47am

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LRC69 said:

First visual of "Ultimate Rave" (2CD / 1 DVD) Release date : April 5th 1507-1 [Edited 2/18/19 12:19pm]


that is one of the worst picture of prince i have ever seen.

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Reply #191 posted 02/19/19 3:32pm

herb4

peedub said:

LRC69 said:

First visual of "Ultimate Rave" (2CD / 1 DVD) Release date : April 5th 1507-1 [Edited 2/18/19 12:19pm]


that is one of the worst picture of prince i have ever seen.


Look harder. I thik we have a "worst pictures" thread somewhere.

Agree this is a werid one to re-release though. Fans (and the public) weren't clamoring for it and no one thinks it's among his best stuff. I'd much prefer a Gold Experience re-issue since that one seems to be the real buried, overlooked and underrealized gem in his catalog.

Even the DVD, which I enjoy more than most seem to, is undercut by rapid fire editing and a bit too much filler.

Hopefully, someone in charge will get on this because the real deal stuff that could be a difference maker is his live material, the best of the vault and the especially aftershows. None of the official live stuff we ever got was top of the line, to say the least and that's a shame. SoTT is the best we got and even that one's not truly live.

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Reply #192 posted 02/19/19 4:11pm

42Kristen

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Reply #193 posted 02/19/19 11:43pm

TrivialPursuit

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herb4 said:

Even the DVD, which I enjoy more than most seem to, is undercut by rapid fire editing and a bit too much filler.


And PS the actual PPV airing is slightly different in parts, as it is with most concert specials when they air vs the hiccups they fix for the home video release. I bought the PPV on VHS at a local record store. It's all I knew until the DVD finally came out, five months later. (I also have the Philadelphia Jam of the Year show from the same place.)

I agree with the filler. The Time's set seems to stunt the whole momentum, and the show's inertia is also grinding to a halt during stuff like "Purple Rain", "The Cross", "Purple House", then the weird video segue with "TGRES".

There are horror stories about how he made the audience wait, many left, then they got bored in between segments because Prince was doing WTFever he wanted to do backstage. A lot of energy is lost throughout. Definitely not a typical Prince concert. He lacked focus. The Emancipation Freedom Concert on MTV was 50x better than the whole Rave Un2 The Year 2000 DVD.

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Reply #194 posted 02/20/19 3:20am

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peedub said:

LRC69 said:

First visual of "Ultimate Rave" (2CD / 1 DVD) Release date : April 5th 1507-1 [Edited 2/18/19 12:19pm]


that is one of the worst picture of prince i have ever seen.

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If this is the "Elvis return special" picture (Prince seen from the back, with a wide stance, holding his symbol guitar): this was apparently the proposed cover for the album until Arista rejected it. (I cannot see the pic at this moment.)

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Reply #195 posted 02/20/19 3:23am

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TrivialPursuit said:

There are horror stories about how he made the audience wait, many left, then they got bored in between segments because Prince was doing WTFever he wanted to do backstage. A lot of energy is lost throughout.

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Fans had to wait outside for hours in the freezing cold while celebs were rushed inside. Only a small selection of fans was allowed inside. The audience mostly consisted of bored celebs who didn't give a fuck about what was happening onstage and didn't know most of the songs.

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Definitely not a typical Prince concert.

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Plenty of stories of Prince gushing over celeb "friends" while ignoring fans.

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Reply #196 posted 02/20/19 5:53am

jaawwnn

BartVanHemelen said:

peedub said:


that is one of the worst picture of prince i have ever seen.

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If this is the "Elvis return special" picture (Prince seen from the back, with a wide stance, holding his symbol guitar): this was apparently the proposed cover for the album until Arista rejected it. (I cannot see the pic at this moment.)

Huh, I did not know that. Interesting.

At least they're trying to do something with this release, even if it's very minor.

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Reply #197 posted 02/20/19 9:16am

scratchtasia

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Agree this is a werid one to re-release though. Fans (and the public) weren't clamoring for it and no one thinks it's among his best stuff. I'd much prefer a Gold Experience re-issue since that one seems to be the real buried, overlooked and underrealized gem in his catalog.



I think it's just low-hanging fruit. Vinyl copies of the main album are rare, the remix album has never been easy to get in physical form, and they can still trumpet some of the guest stars if they want to. It can be released with minimal effort. I'll buy it just to have a physical copy of the remix album. (If the albums get a decent remaster, even better.) I look forward to better releases with vault material, but I'm glad they're getting some of this stuff back out there. I hope they get the digital-only releases out in physical formats, too.


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Reply #198 posted 02/20/19 11:29am

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I hope it is a digipak because I care for the environment and I don’t like plastic.
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Reply #199 posted 02/20/19 11:54am

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jaawwnn said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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If this is the "Elvis return special" picture (Prince seen from the back, with a wide stance, holding his symbol guitar): this was apparently the proposed cover for the album until Arista rejected it. (I cannot see the pic at this moment.)

Huh, I did not know that. Interesting.

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https://twitter.com/Baron...9618007043

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Reply #200 posted 02/20/19 1:24pm

LRC69

LRC69 said:

In France, preorders are now open :



For "Ultimate Rave" (CD Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic + CD Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic + DVD Rave Un2 The Year 2000) : https://musique.fnac.com/...Y5BFpL5Ta0



For "Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic" Vinyl : https://musique.fnac.com/...OgPNlYDN7c



For "Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic" Vinyl : https://musique.fnac.com/...yzwKMD0xjk



The release date has been postponed to April 26th, coinciding with the first day of the 2019 Celebration in Minneapolis.


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All the links above are dead since today !

Strange but true ! And why ?!?!
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Reply #201 posted 02/20/19 3:01pm

TrivialPursuit

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LRC69 said:


All the links above are dead since today ! Strange but true ! And why ?!?!


Yeah, I'm getting 404'd, too.

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Reply #202 posted 02/21/19 1:54am

BartVanHemelen

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LRC69 said:


All the links above are dead since today ! Strange but true ! And why ?!?! [Edited 2/20/19 13:27pm]

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Because companies do not appreciate shops jumping the gun.

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Reply #203 posted 02/21/19 2:34am

LRC69

BartVanHemelen said:

LRC69 said:


All the links above are dead since today ! Strange but true ! And why ?!?! [Edited 2/20/19 13:27pm]

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Because companies do not appreciate shops jumping the gun.


Bart, I think rather that it is Sony who does not know how to manage its branches in the world because in Switzerland:

https://www.cede.ch/fr/music/?view=detail&branch_sub=0&branch=1&aid=16653286&fbclid=IwAR1DlVUoCTFXa4XtSW7YZ72Xi_MGvCLXOvwNUsUbzOgwAd6OjxmQNsFVMv0

https://www.cede.ch/fr/music/?view=detail&branch_sub=0&branch=1&aid=16653289&formatgroup=29&fbclid=IwAR0pqSfU3EtLjrTPfboKMYcysBvlo7r3LPkCoCMeVZe9zuzVrnBLUM7Tkxo

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Reply #204 posted 02/21/19 4:02am

PURPLEIZED3121

BartVanHemelen said:

jaawwnn said:

Huh, I did not know that. Interesting.

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https://twitter.com/Baron...9618007043

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Reply #205 posted 02/21/19 7:54am

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Another link:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/...e+rave>;


wink

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Reply #206 posted 02/21/19 10:29am

AnnastesiaP

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What is their plan? Why this album. Seems so random and disjointed.


What does that they’re doing lol I just can’t buy anything from the estate man. Can’t do it.
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Reply #207 posted 02/21/19 12:10pm

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darkroman said:

Another link:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/...e+rave>;


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And another
[url]https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rave-Un2-Joy-Fantastic-VINYL/dp/B07NBCKSVH/ref=tmm_vnl_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1550779758&sr=8-1
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Reply #208 posted 02/21/19 3:53pm

radicalrojo

Vinyl releases of Rave Un2 and Rave In2 are available for preorder on Amazon US, too. They’re set to be released on April 26, apparently. Couldn’t find any mention of Ultimate Rave, though.

Rave un2: https://www.amazon.com/gp...amp;sr=8-3

Rave in2: https://www.amazon.com/Fa...amp;sr=8-4
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Reply #209 posted 02/22/19 2:25am

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another link "Ultimate Rave"

https://amzn.to/2BHzq8D

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