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Reply #60 posted 01/04/19 7:57am

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Romeoblu said:

I really hope the 3rd disc is a set of Outtakes.

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SONY DOES NOT HAVE ACCESS TO OUTTAKES. Gheez, go read the press release from when they announced that Sony/Legacy had acquired the rights to most of the catalog.

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Reply #61 posted 01/04/19 8:32am

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BartVanHemelen said:



Romeoblu said:


I really hope the 3rd disc is a set of Outtakes.

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SONY DOES NOT HAVE ACCESS TO OUTTAKES. Gheez, go read the press release from when they announced that Sony/Legacy had acquired the rights to most of the catalog.



No I won't do that. I will just keep on hoping disc 3 is out takes.
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Reply #62 posted 01/04/19 8:37am

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Romeoblu said:


I really hope the 3rd disc is a set of Outtakes.

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SONY DOES NOT HAVE ACCESS TO OUTTAKES. Gheez, go read the press release from when they announced that Sony/Legacy had acquired the rights to most of the catalog.



Exactly. They just want to release exactly what they paid for, that s a fair bargain,so leave them alone lol
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But, again, they could have filled the empty spaces of the disc with b sides and remixes of the era. At least they could have given access at a barcode sold in each album to download virtually these B sides.
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But does somebody knows at Sony that this material exists?
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Reply #63 posted 01/04/19 11:13am

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One of Prince's crappiest albums.

Woohoo.

I also found this album to be not up to his standard.....although, there are some great songs by themselves. I sort of feel he tried hard to fit in to sell some records. This is the only Prince album that i've strongly felt this way. This leads to my next point....

Who in the hell is making these choices? While I loved 1983 Piano and Mic, it did not deserve to be the 1st vault release. I do NOT feel there is a real Princeologist working with the estate.

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Reply #64 posted 01/04/19 11:19am

jaypotton

I get it that Sony don't have access to out takes or vault material but it is a shame if this release didn't include the b-sides and remixes.

The quandary it puts me in is whether to buy it. As a completist I feel I should but I already own Rave Un2, Race In2 and Rave2000 so nothing new but perhaps nice to have in a single package...hmmmm!
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Reply #65 posted 01/04/19 12:28pm

luvsexy4all

i think i get it...now SONY is making money ...as WB already did....no concern for fans or his legacy

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Reply #66 posted 01/04/19 2:25pm

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They are just releasing out of print albums. This is a great initiative. If you already own these albums, you would be stupid to buy it again. So what are you complaining about? You wanna Sue WB because they are still printing FOR YOU ? razz
Oh please...
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Reply #67 posted 01/05/19 1:41am

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RODSERLING said:

They are just releasing out of print albums. This is a great initiative. If you already own these albums, you would be stupid to buy it again. So what are you complaining about? You wanna Sue WB because they are still printing FOR YOU ? razz
Oh please...


Agreed - it has been criminal that so much of the Prince catalogue has been out of print. I obviously don't know the specifics of any contract but even though many of his post WB releases still went out on majors (Universal, Sony, EMI) they were on P&D deals and were likely time bound so no requirement for keeping them in print.

Buying them again would be silly though I think SONY are missing a trick by not including b-sides and remixes in same package as THAT would probably pursuade some hardcore fans who already own the CDs to go buy again. I won't be buying Musicology, 3121 or Planet Earth (I have 9 copies of that due to the O2 concerts and Mail on Sunday) but might buy Rave again to have the three items in a single package (even though I obviously have these)...not sure!
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Reply #68 posted 01/05/19 2:26am

RODSERLING

jaypotton said:

RODSERLING said:

They are just releasing out of print albums. This is a great initiative. If you already own these albums, you would be stupid to buy it again. So what are you complaining about? You wanna Sue WB because they are still printing FOR YOU ? razz
Oh please...


Agreed - it has been criminal that so much of the Prince catalogue has been out of print. I obviously don't know the specifics of any contract but even though many of his post WB releases still went out on majors (Universal, Sony, EMI) they were on P&D deals and were likely time bound so no requirement for keeping them in print.

Buying them again would be silly though I think SONY are missing a trick by not including b-sides and remixes in same package as THAT would probably pursuade some hardcore fans who already own the CDs to go buy again. I won't be buying Musicology, 3121 or Planet Earth (I have 9 copies of that due to the O2 concerts and Mail on Sunday) but might buy Rave again to have the three items in a single package (even though I obviously have these)...not sure!


Personally, I hesitate in buying a platin vinyle. If I bought it one, I will buy every vinyl from FOR YOU to AOA.
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If I stick to CD, I will buy again :
Musicology, 3121, 2010 with a booklet, Emancipation, Rainbow Children. That makes 5.
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I will buy for the first time :
Gold, Chaos, RAVEIN2, Crystal Ball, Kamasutra, the truth, NEWS, Chocolate, Slaughterhouse, C note, One nite alone, One nite alone live!, Planet earth, the live of 2008...that makes 14 albums.
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So in total, I will buy 19 albums out of 23 (!).
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Reply #69 posted 01/05/19 4:07am

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Could CD 3 simply be the TGRES remixes instead of the live dvd?
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Reply #70 posted 01/05/19 4:15am

jaypotton

databank said:

Could CD 3 simply be the TGRES remixes instead of the live dvd?


Could be! Still leaves me in same quandary as have them already on CD.
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Reply #71 posted 01/05/19 5:01am

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databank said:

Could CD 3 simply be the TGRES remixes instead of the live dvd?

No. It has been confirmed already CD 1 RAVE UN2, CD 2 RAVE IN2, CD 3 RAVE UN2 THE YEAR 2000 DVD.

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Reply #72 posted 01/05/19 5:51am

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feeluupp said:



databank said:


Could CD 3 simply be the TGRES remixes instead of the live dvd?


No. It has been confirmed already CD 1 RAVE UN2, CD 2 RAVE IN2, CD 3 RAVE UN2 THE YEAR 2000 DVD.



Is it at least on Blu Ray or is it just regular DVD. I know expecting a 4k release is a step too far but surely they can manage a Blu Ray release for the concert.
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Reply #73 posted 01/05/19 6:50am

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feeluupp said:

databank said:

Could CD 3 simply be the TGRES remixes instead of the live dvd?

No. It has been confirmed already CD 1 RAVE UN2, CD 2 RAVE IN2, CD 3 RAVE UN2 THE YEAR 2000 DVD.

Ah OK then.

They could have added a CD4 : the TGRES Mixes, then lol

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Reply #74 posted 01/05/19 8:16am

kookooman73

I have to say I find it odd that this isn’t being released on vinyl. I will buy it regardless but I would’ve also bought the vinyl as a collectors piece. I know many people who would’ve loved Rave on vinyl. Why release some but not others on vinyl?
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Reply #75 posted 01/05/19 8:31am

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kookooman73 said:

I have to say I find it odd that this isn’t being released on vinyl. I will buy it regardless but I would’ve also bought the vinyl as a collectors piece. I know many people who would’ve loved Rave on vinyl. Why release some but not others on vinyl?


In case you, or whoever, didn't know, Rave Un2 was released on vinyl originally. I have it.

I guess Rave In2 would be cool on vinyl, sold separately, or with Un2 as a 4-LP set (priced to all fuckery I'm sure).

If people are looking for something extra that they could have thrown into CD set this besides those TGRES remixes (even The Neptunes had trouble working on it because it was such a bad song, btw), it would be The Hot X-perience EP that never came out (which included "Underneath The Cream" and possibly a remix of "So Far, So Pleased"). "UTC" developed from a line from "Hot Wit U" apparently. According to Princevault, also, this was the tracklist:



"Brand new club remixes on vinyl".

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Reply #76 posted 01/05/19 11:52am

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Reply #77 posted 01/05/19 3:48pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

kookooman73 said:

I have to say I find it odd that this isn’t being released on vinyl. I will buy it regardless but I would’ve also bought the vinyl as a collectors piece. I know many people who would’ve loved Rave on vinyl. Why release some but not others on vinyl?


In case you, or whoever, didn't know, Rave Un2 was released on vinyl originally. I have it.

I guess Rave In2 would be cool on vinyl, sold separately, or with Un2 as a 4-LP set (priced to all fuckery I'm sure).

If people are looking for something extra that they could have thrown into CD set this besides those TGRES remixes (even The Neptunes had trouble working on it because it was such a bad song, btw), it would be The Hot X-perience EP that never came out (which included "Underneath The Cream" and possibly a remix of "So Far, So Pleased"). "UTC" developed from a line from "Hot Wit U" apparently. According to Princevault, also, this was the tracklist:



"Brand new club remixes on vinyl".



those "hot wit u" remixes are a guilty pleasure of mine. the club mix is so much fun.
and i also really enjoyed the hip hop mix that was leaked a year or so back (?).


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Reply #78 posted 01/06/19 3:56am

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IstenSzek said:



TrivialPursuit said:




kookooman73 said:


I have to say I find it odd that this isn’t being released on vinyl. I will buy it regardless but I would’ve also bought the vinyl as a collectors piece. I know many people who would’ve loved Rave on vinyl. Why release some but not others on vinyl?


In case you, or whoever, didn't know, Rave Un2 was released on vinyl originally. I have it.

I guess Rave In2 would be cool on vinyl, sold separately, or with Un2 as a 4-LP set (priced to all fuckery I'm sure).

If people are looking for something extra that they could have thrown into CD set this besides those TGRES remixes (even The Neptunes had trouble working on it because it was such a bad song, btw), it would be The Hot X-perience EP that never came out (which included "Underneath The Cream" and possibly a remix of "So Far, So Pleased"). "UTC" developed from a line from "Hot Wit U" apparently. According to Princevault, also, this was the tracklist:





"Brand new club remixes on vinyl".





those "hot wit u" remixes are a guilty pleasure of mine. the club mix is so much fun.
and i also really enjoyed the hip hop mix that was leaked a year or so back (?).




Is the hip hop mix the one that was on BFTP3 labelled as 'redefined remix'?
Kip Blackshire's on it and the Nasty Girl parts. That's my favourite version.
That and Undisputed (The Moneyapolis Mix) are the pick of that era for me

I don't think I've got the Club/Dance Mix..
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Reply #79 posted 01/06/19 5:07pm

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dodger said:

IstenSzek said:



those "hot wit u" remixes are a guilty pleasure of mine. the club mix is so much fun.
and i also really enjoyed the hip hop mix that was leaked a year or so back (?).


Is the hip hop mix the one that was on BFTP3 labelled as 'redefined remix'? Kip Blackshire's on it and the Nasty Girl parts. That's my favourite version. That and Undisputed (The Moneyapolis Mix) are the pick of that era for me I don't think I've got the Club/Dance Mix..


i think so, i can't check right now but i'm 98% sure. it's the one with the lyric

"everytime i whistle in the key of c
girl u gotta come over n satisfy me"

smile


the club/dance mix was in one of the ahdio shows on npgmc (iirc # 11).
it's the one with the lyric:

"i wanna get my camcorder, take u by my pool
put some oil on u, film ur shiny body, underneath the water"


cool



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Reply #80 posted 01/06/19 5:39pm

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dodger said:

IstenSzek said:



TrivialPursuit said:




kookooman73 said:


I have to say I find it odd that this isn’t being released on vinyl. I will buy it regardless but I would’ve also bought the vinyl as a collectors piece. I know many people who would’ve loved Rave on vinyl. Why release some but not others on vinyl?


In case you, or whoever, didn't know, Rave Un2 was released on vinyl originally. I have it.

I guess Rave In2 would be cool on vinyl, sold separately, or with Un2 as a 4-LP set (priced to all fuckery I'm sure).

If people are looking for something extra that they could have thrown into CD set this besides those TGRES remixes (even The Neptunes had trouble working on it because it was such a bad song, btw), it would be The Hot X-perience EP that never came out (which included "Underneath The Cream" and possibly a remix of "So Far, So Pleased"). "UTC" developed from a line from "Hot Wit U" apparently. According to Princevault, also, this was the tracklist:





"Brand new club remixes on vinyl".





those "hot wit u" remixes are a guilty pleasure of mine. the club mix is so much fun.
and i also really enjoyed the hip hop mix that was leaked a year or so back (?).




Is the hip hop mix the one that was on BFTP3 labelled as 'redefined remix'?
Kip Blackshire's on it and the Nasty Girl parts. That's my favourite version.
That and Undisputed (The Moneyapolis Mix) are the pick of that era for me

I don't think I've got the Club/Dance Mix..

The redefined remix is the best version smile I also like the long version of the Nasty Girl remix
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Reply #81 posted 01/06/19 7:50pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

those TGRES remixes (even The Neptunes had trouble working on it because it was such a bad song, btw)

Did Chad and/or Pharrell ever say anything about this experience? I'm quite curious to know your source?

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Reply #82 posted 01/06/19 9:36pm

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databank said:

TrivialPursuit said:

those TGRES remixes (even The Neptunes had trouble working on it because it was such a bad song, btw)

Did Chad and/or Pharrell ever say anything about this experience? I'm quite curious to know your source?


It was probably way back in the alt.music.prince days.

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Reply #83 posted 01/06/19 10:28pm

onlyforaminute

Seems to be a lot of "likes" connected to it.
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Reply #84 posted 01/07/19 12:27am

databank

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TrivialPursuit said:

databank said:

Did Chad and/or Pharrell ever say anything about this experience? I'm quite curious to know your source?


It was probably way back in the alt.music.prince days.

But do you remember them (or any reliable source) saying it there, or was it just hearsay?

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I'm asking because many things online are just "said" by someone (anyone) once, believed, repeated, and become "true" when in fact they were made-up. That's why when I hear something for the first time, I like to try and trace the original source.

+ I'd find it interesting to be able to find the exact quote if the Neptunes themselves talked about their issues with the song.

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Reply #85 posted 01/07/19 1:25am

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EmmaMcG said:

feeluupp said:

No. It has been confirmed already CD 1 RAVE UN2, CD 2 RAVE IN2, CD 3 RAVE UN2 THE YEAR 2000 DVD.

Is it at least on Blu Ray or is it just regular DVD. I know expecting a 4k release is a step too far but surely they can manage a Blu Ray release for the concert.

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You lot are hilarious. That POS was filmed with SD cameras because a) it was 1999 and b) Prince was cheap.

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Reply #86 posted 01/07/19 1:29am

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databank said:

TrivialPursuit said:

those TGRES remixes (even The Neptunes had trouble working on it because it was such a bad song, btw)

Did Chad and/or Pharrell ever say anything about this experience? I'm quite curious to know your source?

.

The only people I've ever heard talking about a TGRES remix were Basement Jaxx, who refused it because they had no interest on working their magic on such a craptastic song; they were interested though in doing remixes of some of his classic era tracks.

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(Fun thing was that back then someone was hyping his Prince party by claiming he'd be playing his promo copy of the Basement Jaxx remix of TGRES.)

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Reply #87 posted 01/07/19 1:34am

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BartVanHemelen said:

databank said:

Did Chad and/or Pharrell ever say anything about this experience? I'm quite curious to know your source?

.

The only people I've ever heard talking about a TGRES remix were Basement Jaxx, who refused it because they had no interest on working their magic on such a craptastic song; they were interested though in doing remixes of some of his classic era tracks.

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(Fun thing was that back then someone was hyping his Prince party by claiming he'd be playing his promo copy of the Basement Jaxx remix of TGRES.)

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The problem is that so much of that era (late 1990s/early 2000s) has been lost in the digital haze. I'm sure there are scattered archives of the likes of The Prince Family's website and Uptown's website etc., but there's no central repository. This is when Prince was in full-on "attack the fans" mode, and those who would have set up archives/mirrors were not interested in investing their time and money in something that would inevitably have gotten them a letter from a Paisley Park lawyer.

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Reply #88 posted 01/07/19 1:35am

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BartVanHemelen said:



EmmaMcG said:


feeluupp said:



No. It has been confirmed already CD 1 RAVE UN2, CD 2 RAVE IN2, CD 3 RAVE UN2 THE YEAR 2000 DVD.



Is it at least on Blu Ray or is it just regular DVD. I know expecting a 4k release is a step too far but surely they can manage a Blu Ray release for the concert.

.


You lot are hilarious. That POS was filmed with SD cameras because a) it was 1999 and b) Prince was cheap.



Are you really that stupid or do you just say things for a laugh? Ghostbusters, filmed in 1984 was shot on SD. I have the movie on Blu Ray. The Good The Bad and The Ugly, filmed in 1966 and shot in SD. I have the movie on Blu Ray. Top Gun, shot in SD in 1986. I have that movie in 3D Blu Ray. I could go on but I'd be here for a while. I own thousands of movies on Blu Ray (and even some on 4k blu ray) that were made well before Rave and were originally shot in SD.

So go on, explain how you find it so hilarious to expect a DVD release in 2019 to receive a high definition transfer. The only thing that's hilarious is how full of shit you are.
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Reply #89 posted 01/07/19 2:17am

databank

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EmmaMcG said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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You lot are hilarious. That POS was filmed with SD cameras because a) it was 1999 and b) Prince was cheap.

Are you really that stupid or do you just say things for a laugh? Ghostbusters, filmed in 1984 was shot on SD. I have the movie on Blu Ray. The Good The Bad and The Ugly, filmed in 1966 and shot in SD. I have the movie on Blu Ray. Top Gun, shot in SD in 1986. I have that movie in 3D Blu Ray. I could go on but I'd be here for a while. I own thousands of movies on Blu Ray (and even some on 4k blu ray) that were made well before Rave and were originally shot in SD. So go on, explain how you find it so hilarious to expect a DVD release in 2019 to receive a high definition transfer. The only thing that's hilarious is how full of shit you are.

Mmmh. I'm no expert so somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but all the motion pictures you mention have been filmed on 35mm film, which is, before being digitalized, real hardcore HD, possibly more HD than what digital HD can translate in 2018.

On the other hand IDK what Rave2000 was filmed on but my guess is video, not 35 mm film. If I understand what Bart means with SD, it is that is was shot with SD digital cameras as opposed to good ol' video tape, and honestly IDK how good or bad that can look on a Blu-ray if restored, but in any case I doubt it can be compared to 35mm film.

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