IstenSzek said:

djThunderfunk said:

That happens with streaming... FREQUENTLY.

Buy physical copies or downloads you can back up if you don't like it.

Or, bitch every time this happens. Whatevs...

i've been on spotify premium for about 3 years now and that's literally never happened to me.

and i play 90% of my music at home from spotify now, eventho i have almost my entire music
collection on my harddrive and on back ups. it's just easy and most things are on spotify, that
i have in my library. except for prince bootlegs and the odd really weird release.

the only time an album or a song has gone missing or hasn't been available for a while is with
the prince catalogue. but that's more to do with prince and now the estate than the services,
at least that's my guess since i never have that problem with any other artist.

It's true, it rarely happens and when it does it's interesting because it's usually a sign that something is going on with the rights of a catalogue.

Also, it's fucked up some of my playlists AND I WON'T HAVE IT.

jaawwnn said:

IstenSzek said:

i've been on spotify premium for about 3 years now and that's literally never happened to me.

and i play 90% of my music at home from spotify now, eventho i have almost my entire music
collection on my harddrive and on back ups. it's just easy and most things are on spotify, that
i have in my library. except for prince bootlegs and the odd really weird release.

the only time an album or a song has gone missing or hasn't been available for a while is with
the prince catalogue. but that's more to do with prince and now the estate than the services,
at least that's my guess since i never have that problem with any other artist.

It's true, it rarely happens and when it does it's interesting because it's usually a sign that something is going on with the rights of a catalogue.

Also, it's fucked up some of my playlists AND I WON'T HAVE IT.

I've never used a streaming service but I've seen people come here complaining about music being removed from this or that service MANY times. That's why we have comments like "not this conversation again".

And if you use Netflix, it happens several times a year. Licenses come and go.

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djThunderfunk said:

jaawwnn said:

It's true, it rarely happens and when it does it's interesting because it's usually a sign that something is going on with the rights of a catalogue.

Also, it's fucked up some of my playlists AND I WON'T HAVE IT.

I've never used a streaming service but I've seen people come here complaining about music being removed from this or that service MANY times. That's why we have comments like "not this conversation again".

And if you use Netflix, it happens several times a year. Licenses come and go.

[Edited 12/17/18 6:04am]

It rarely happens to anyone who is not Prince, and since Prince died it has rarely happened to his stuff, just a bit of hiccupping around royalties at first, thought they had it sorted. Guess not/

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jaawwnn said:

djThunderfunk said:

I've never used a streaming service but I've seen people come here complaining about music being removed from this or that service MANY times. That's why we have comments like "not this conversation again".

And if you use Netflix, it happens several times a year. Licenses come and go.

[Edited 12/17/18 6:04am]

It rarely happens to anyone who is not Prince, and since Prince died it has rarely happened to his stuff, just a bit of hiccupping around royalties at first, thought they had it sorted. Guess not.

Judging by the frequency of threads just like this one, this is not rare at all.

djThunderfunk said:

jaawwnn said:

It rarely happens to anyone who is not Prince, and since Prince died it has rarely happened to his stuff, just a bit of hiccupping around royalties at first, thought they had it sorted. Guess not.

Judging by the frequency of threads just like this one, this is not rare at all.

It is rare for anyone who is not Prince and increasingly rare for Prince since he passed.

Please note that Spotify is not Tidal, Tidal is an outlier in the streaming world, there's basically all other streaming services and then there's Tidal.

When stuff does get removed from non-Tidal streaming it's usually a sign of something else going on like a remaster or a re-release or change in record labels so it's worth commenting on.

jaawwnn said:

djThunderfunk said:

Judging by the frequency of threads just like this one, this is not rare at all.

It is rare for anyone who is not Prince and increasingly rare for Prince since he passed.

Please note that Spotify is not Tidal, Tidal is an outlier in the streaming world, there's basically all other streaming services and then there's Tidal.

When stuff does get removed from non-Tidal streaming it's usually a sign of something else going on like a remaster or a re-release or change in record labels so it's worth commenting on.

Since I've never used a streaming service, I can't argue my own anecdotes against yours. However I can say with certainty that threads like this, where people bitch about music missing or removed from streaming services, are absolutely NOT rare at all. If it RARELY happens it's strange that people REGULARLY complain about it.

djThunderfunk said:

jaawwnn said:

It is rare for anyone who is not Prince and increasingly rare for Prince since he passed.

Please note that Spotify is not Tidal, Tidal is an outlier in the streaming world, there's basically all other streaming services and then there's Tidal.

When stuff does get removed from non-Tidal streaming it's usually a sign of something else going on like a remaster or a re-release or change in record labels so it's worth commenting on.

Since I've never used a streaming service, I can't argue my own anecdotes against yours. However I can say with certainty that threads like this, where people bitch about music missing or removed from streaming services, are absolutely NOT rare at all. If it RARELY happens it's strange that people REGULARLY complain about it.

9/10 of those threads are about Madhouse and the Family and the like albums that should not have been there in the first place. They go up and down depending on how quickly they're caught. But yeah, you're correct, lots of threads.

Moving on, for everyone else:

So around October the two HitnRun albums, Judith Hill and Andy Allo album were all put on streaming services at the same time IIRC. Now one of the HitnRun albums has been removed, which suggests something is going on. It might be nothing, it might be something, anyone know what gives?

jaawwnn said:

djThunderfunk said:

Since I've never used a streaming service, I can't argue my own anecdotes against yours. However I can say with certainty that threads like this, where people bitch about music missing or removed from streaming services, are absolutely NOT rare at all. If it RARELY happens it's strange that people REGULARLY complain about it.

9/10 of those threads are about Madhouse and the Family and the like albums that should not have been there in the first place. They go up and down depending on how quickly they're caught. But yeah, you're correct, lots of threads.

Moving on, for everyone else:

So around October the two HitnRun albums, Judith Hill and Andy Allo album were all put on streaming services at the same time IIRC. Now one of the HitnRun albums has been removed, which suggests something is going on. It might be nothing, it might be something, anyone know what gives?

No, 90% of those threads are not about the bootlegs. Way more than 10% have been about the main catalogue. But whatevs, if you want to "move on", feel free.

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feeluupp said:

PHASE 3 coming in January... TIDAL

not possible...it woudlve been promoted by now

maybe it was removed so there wasnt an album to discourage the average listener

djThunderfunk said:

jaawwnn said:

9/10 of those threads are about Madhouse and the Family and the like albums that should not have been there in the first place. They go up and down depending on how quickly they're caught. But yeah, you're correct, lots of threads.

Moving on, for everyone else:

So around October the two HitnRun albums, Judith Hill and Andy Allo album were all put on streaming services at the same time IIRC. Now one of the HitnRun albums has been removed, which suggests something is going on. It might be nothing, it might be something, anyone know what gives?

No, 90% of those threads are not about the bootlegs. Way more than 10% have been about the main catalogue. But whatevs, if you want to "move on", feel free.

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Find me these Prince has been removed from Spotify threads post April 2016.

jaawwnn said:

djThunderfunk said:

No, 90% of those threads are not about the bootlegs. Way more than 10% have been about the main catalogue. But whatevs, if you want to "move on", feel free.

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Find me these Prince has been removed from Spotify threads post April 2016.

Read better.

I've been talking consistently about "streaming services" now you want to lock me down to just "Spotify"?

Find them yourself, or, stick to your guns and "move on".

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this is why you should actually buy and own product, not stream. streaming rights come and go all the time for sometimes good reasons, weird reasons, or no reason at all. no where does any streaming service guarantee that the content available today will be there tomnorrow.

djThunderfunk said:

jaawwnn said:

Find me these Prince has been removed from Spotify threads post April 2016.

Read better.

I've been talking consistently about "streaming services" now you want to lock me down to just "Spotify"?

Find them yourself, or, stick to your guns and "move on".

Very true, I was using Spotify as shorthand, I meant all the major streaming services with modern deals with the catalog, i.e. not Tidal.

Is it still on apple music/google music/amazon? Anyone know?

jaawwnn said:

djThunderfunk said:

Read better.

I've been talking consistently about "streaming services" now you want to lock me down to just "Spotify"?

Find them yourself, or, stick to your guns and "move on".

Very true, I was using Spotify as shorthand, I meant all the major streaming services with modern deals with the catalog, i.e. not Tidal.

Is it still on apple music/google music/amazon? Anyone know?

is not currently and never was on amazon, far as i know.

peedub said:

jaawwnn said:

Very true, I was using Spotify as shorthand, I meant all the major streaming services with modern deals with the catalog, i.e. not Tidal.

Is it still on apple music/google music/amazon? Anyone know?

is not currently and never was on amazon, far as i know.

Same for Apple Music - I don't think it was ever available.

TwiliteKid said:

peedub said:

is not currently and never was on amazon, far as i know.

Same for Apple Music - I don't think it was ever available.

Ooh, I did not know this. Is HnR2 or the Judith Hill/Andy Allo album there?

jaawwnn said:

TwiliteKid said:

Same for Apple Music - I don't think it was ever available.

Ooh, I did not know this. Is HnR2 or the Judith Hill/Andy Allo album there?

'back in time' and 'superconductor' are both available on amazon.

peedub said:

jaawwnn said:

Ooh, I did not know this. Is HnR2 or the Judith Hill/Andy Allo album there?

'back in time' and 'superconductor' are both available on amazon.

I thought that 'Superconductor' had been available for download and streaming on Amazon since it's release in November 2012. I believe that Andy announced back in the summer that the album was finally available on Spotify. I don't think the Estate has sole control over the album so not sure if that was her doing or theirs or what it may mean for future releases of Prince albums.

jaawwnn said:

oh no

TwiliteKid said:

jaawwnn said:

Ooh, I did not know this. Is HnR2 or the Judith Hill/Andy Allo album there?

Yes, all three of those are available.

no...hnr2 is not available for streaming on amazon.

peedub said:

TwiliteKid said:

jaawwnn said: Yes, all three of those are available.

no...hnr2 is not available for streaming on amazon.

I was referring to Apple Music. If you're going to comment, pay attention.

TwiliteKid said:

peedub said:

no...hnr2 is not available for streaming on amazon.

I was referring to Apple Music. If you're going to comment, pay attention.

and i was referring to amazon. the question, as quoted, was posed to both of us (and everybody with access to the internet). i'm just dropping information. relax.

previously, the album still showed up on spotify, but you couldn't play the songs anymore.

now the whole thing is gone from the discography