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An Effort to Guesstimate the Amount of Unreleased Material from 1977-1988... Purple Nation -
Just for the sake of giggles and snorts here is an estimate of the number of unreleased items that might be in The Vault, being as conservative as possible using sources that are well-known and generally held in high regard by the community (thevault.com, Tudahl, etc.):
1977-1978:
26 unrelased studio songs 2 Capri showcase concerts 2 Capri showcase soundchecks
Prince Era:
9 unreleased studio The Rebels Sessions songs 2 other unreleased studio songs 16 1979 Prince Tour concerts show 16 1979 Prince Tour soundchecks 42 Rick James supporting act shows 42 Rick James supporting act soundchecks
Dirty Mind Era:
8 unreleased studio songs 30 DM Tour shows 30 DM Tour soundchecks
Controversy Era:
27 unreleased songs 60 Controversy Tour Concerts 60 Controversy Tour soundchecks
1999 Era:
15 unreleased songs 93 1999 Tour shows 93 1999 Tour soundchecks
Purple Rain Era:
7 unreleased studio songs 5 unrelated special concert/performances 98 Purple Rain Tour concerts 98 Purple Rain Tour soundchecks
ATWIAD Era:
6 unreleased studio songs
Parade Era:
69 unreleased studio songs 30 Parade Tour shows 30 Prade Tour soundchecks
SOTT Era:
25 unreleased studio songs 10 unrelated special concert/aftershows, etc. 34 SOTT concert chows 34 SOTT soundchecks
Lovesexy Era:
31 unreleased studio songs 77 Lovesexy Tour shows 77 Lovesexy Tour soundchecks 10 unrelated special shows/aftershows, etc.
So for 1977 through 1988 that would be...carry the one...
~1214 separate peices of music, songs, sounchecks, concerts, aftershows, etc....
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. At the current rate none of those will be released anytime soon. Unless the money keeps running out as it does, and if they realize this, then this might change.
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people can say what they want, but they know this period is the holy grail
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Acts like the Stones, Macca and Dylan are all 70+ and still touring. So I don't think there will ever come a time when somebody is too old for rock & roll. But I agree that the Estate should not wait too long. Whoever thought of putting music out for the next 100 years must have thought Prince has the same reputation as Mozart or Beethoven. He hasn't. No orchestra is going to play The Dream Factory in the 22nd century- I don't even know if we humans will still exist then. So put that shit out! Now! | |
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Everyone, cut n paste the most updated post and add something that hasn't been added yet indicated by a color what you added
1977-1978:
Leaving 4 New York
26 unrelased studio songs 2 Capri showcase concerts 2 Capri showcase soundchecks
Prince Era:
9 unreleased studio The Rebels Sessions songs 2 other unreleased studio songs 16 1979 Prince Tour concerts show 16 1979 Prince Tour soundchecks 42 Rick James supporting act shows 42 Rick James supporting act soundchecks
Dirty Mind Era:
8 unreleased studio songs 30 DM Tour shows 30 DM Tour soundchecks
Controversy Era:
The Hookers, home studio, 1981 - Jamie Shoop & Susan Moonsie
Home studio, autumn-winter 1981
27 unreleased songs 60 Controversy Tour Concerts 60 Controversy Tour soundchecks
1999 Era:
The Hookers/Vanity 6, home studio, late 1981 – early 1982
Home studio, early 1982
Vanity 6, Sunset Sound, 25 March – 9 April 1982 – album completed in May
Home studio, 1982
15 unreleased songs 93 1999 Tour shows 93 1999 Tour soundchecks
Purple Rain Era:
7 unreleased studio songs 5 unrelated special concert/performances 98 Purple Rain Tour concerts 98 Purple Rain Tour soundchecks
ATWIAD Era:
6 unreleased studio songs
Parade Era:
69 unreleased studio songs 30 Parade Tour shows 30 Prade Tour soundchecks
SOTT Era:
25 unreleased studio songs 10 unrelated special concert/aftershows, etc. 34 SOTT concert chows 34 SOTT soundchecks
Lovesexy Era:
31 unreleased studio songs 77 Lovesexy Tour shows 77 Lovesexy Tour soundchecks 10 unrelated special shows/aftershows, etc.
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Great stuff!!!!! Wouldn't it be fin to learn that a totally unexpected cluster of tunes were recorded that no one knows about?? Like around 1980 during the Dirty Mind sessions he recorded a whole other album? (or two??) | |
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The real question is: who is going to listen to all of that? And remember, this is only the first ten years. | |
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NorthC said: The real question is: who is going to listen to all of that? And remember, this is only the first ten years. I would definitely buy a lot of this potential product for sure...at the right price. For example, id pay full per song iTunes prices for a lot of the studio recordings...and for the individual concerts and sound checks I’d pay $5-10 per show, especially for the legendary ones... | |
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ME !! LOL I would get LOST in it all, as I have with all the unreleased stuff I have already | |
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. Hah, you think support acts get (extended) soundchecks. . Also, this 1 concert = 1 soundcheck might be technically true, but that doesn't necessarily mean all of those are interesting, or even amount to much. And aren't some of these concerts matinee performances? © Bart Van Hemelen
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Home recordings, 1976
1977-1978: 14-track demo tape, Moonsound, Minneapolis, spring – December 1976 – no known order
Sound 80, Minneapolis, 29 December 1976 – summer 1977
94 East, Sound 80, Minneapolis, early 1977
Sue Ann Carwell, home studio & Sound 80, summer 1978
26 unrelased studio songs 2 Capri showcase concerts 2 Capri showcase soundchecks
Prince Era:
Prince, Alpha Studio, Los Angeles, late April – 13 June 1979
9 unreleased studio The Rebels Sessions songs
The Rebels, Mountain Ears Sound Studios, Boulder, Colorado, 10 – 21 July 1979
2 other unreleased studio songs
16 1979 Prince Tour concerts show 16 1979 Prince Tour soundchecks
11.28.1979 @ the Roxy Theater LA 12.1.1979 @ the Palace in Houston TX 2.9.1980 @ the Opheum Theater in Minneapolis MN 2.15.1980 NYC - the Bottom Line (1st show)
2.16.1980 NYC - the Bottom Line (2nd show) 2.17.1980 @ the Paradise Club in Boston Ma
1.11.1980 January 26. 1980
42 Rick James supporting act shows 42 Rick James supporting act soundchecks
MARCH 1980 opening 4 Rick James on the Fire It Up tour 22 FEB, 1980 ::::: Fort Worth, TX, USA – Tarrant County Convention Center
Dirty Mind Era:
North Arm Drive Home Studio North Arm Drive home studio recordings Big Brass Bed - May 1980 Bulgaria - May 1980 Lisa
8 unreleased studio songs 30 DM Tour shows 30 DM Tour soundchecks
Controversy Era:
The Hookers, home studio, 1981 - Jamie Shoop & Susan Moonsie
Home studio, autumn-winter 1981
27 unreleased songs 60 Controversy Tour Concerts 60 Controversy Tour soundchecks
1999 Era:
The TIME
The Hookers/Vanity 6, home studio, late 1981 – early 1982
Home studio, early 1982
Vanity 6, Sunset Sound, 25 March – 9 April 1982 – album completed in May
Home studio, 1982
Baby You're A Trip - July 8, 1982 @ Sunset Sound
15 unreleased songs 93 1999 Tour shows 93 1999 Tour soundchecks
Purple Rain Era:
7 unreleased studio songs 5 unrelated special concert/performances 98 Purple Rain Tour concerts 98 Purple Rain Tour soundchecks
ATWIAD Era:
6 unreleased studio songs
Old Friends 4 Sale Initial tracking took place on 20 April, 1985 at Sunset Sound
Come Elektra Tuesday is an unreleased song recorded on 26 May, 1985 at Sunset Sound, Hollywood, CA Stella And Charles is an unreleased song recorded on 26 May, 1985 at Sunset Sound Polka-Dot Tiger is an unreleased instrumental recorded on 28 May, 1985 at Sunset Sound Killin' At The Soda Shop is an unreleased song recorded on 29 May, 1985 Married Man is an unreleased song recorded on 29 May, 1985 at Sunset Sound, Hollywood Zebra With The Blonde Hair is an unreleased instrumental recorded on 29 May, 1985 at Sunset Sound, Go is an unreleased track recorded in early August, 1985, at the Crosstown Circle Warehouse She Pony ~ 1985 is an unreleased track recorded in December, 1985 Can I Play With U? - Decemeber 26, 1985
Parade Era: Heaven -unreleased song recorded on 26 May, 1985 at Sunset Sound God Is Everywhere -is an unreleased track recorded in mid-July, 1985
The Question of U -While specific recording dates are not known, initial tracking took place in mid-late July, 1985 at the Crosstown Circle Warehouse
The Flesh sessions 12.28.1985-1.22.1986 Groove in C Minor
A Couple of Miles
Voodoo Who
69 unreleased studio songs 30 Parade Tour shows 30 Prade Tour soundchecks
Dream Factory / Camille - Others Here With Us -20 April, 1985 at Sunset Sound All My Dreams - 28th April 1985 @ Sunset Sound An Honest Man -30 November, 1985 Eternity -December, 1985, at Sunset Sound Splash - Initial tracking took place on 1 August, 1985 Empty Room -4 August, 1985 at the Crosstown Circle Warehouse Sexual Suicide Initial -10 August, 1985, at the Crosstown Circle Warehouse It's A Wonderful Day is an unreleased song recorded on 30 January, 1986 at Sunset Sound And How - March 19th 1986 @ Galpin Blvd Home studio Love & Sex is an unreleased track recorded on 25th March 1986 @ Sunset Sound Movie Star -27 March, 1986 at Prince's Galpin Blvd Home Studio Teacher, Teacher -unreleased song first recorded in Summer, 1982 at Prince's Kiowa Trail Home Studio,early 1986, Wendy Melvoin and Lisa Coleman worked on the track further, at either Prince's Galpin Blvd Home Studio Big Tall Wall - April 1986 In A Large Room With No Light -4 May, 1986 at Sunset Sound Frustration - May 10th 1986 Boy U Bad - May 11, 1986 @ Sunset Sound Data Bank -17 June, 1986 at the Crosstown Circle Warehouse Adonis & Bathsheba -27 July, 1986 at Prince's Galpin Blvd Home Studio Make Your Momma Happy -8 August, 1986 Susannah's Blues- Le New Morning, Paris France Aug 24th 1986 Coco Boys - August 25th 1986 at Le Zénith, Paris, France When the Dawn of the Morning Comes - September 1986 @ Prince's Galpin Blvd studio Crucial - Galpin Blvd Home Studio Sept 13th 1986 Cosmic Day - Sunset Sound November 15 1986
Wally -December 1986
SOTT Era:
25 unreleased studio songs 10 unrelated special concert/aftershows, etc. 34 SOTT concert chows 34 SOTT soundchecks
Walkin' In Glory - Dec 7th 1986 @ Sunset Sound
Lovesexy Era:
Come Back 2 Me - @ Paisley Park studios Sept 29 1988(Sheena Easton)
Am I Without U? -late 1988 By Alien Means - Oct 12 1988 An American In Paris - 1989
31 unreleased studio songs 77 Lovesexy Tour shows 77 Lovesexy Tour soundchecks 10 unrelated special shows/aftershows, etc.
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like we ALL wouldnt stop life- as we know it- to listen to all this stuff | |
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Can't wait to finally hear "Cosmic Day" in 3214!!! |
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but the elitists have this stuff....what needs to happen for them to become a label? | |
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Attention: Rumors / WARNING: rumors | |
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I know it is for many, it isn't necessarily for me. Don't get me wrong, I love those years as much as y'all do, but my love for what came later is just as strong, and much more emotionally involved I think. Keep in mind that I discovered Prince in 1989 and became a hardcore fan circa late 90-early 91. The 78-88 Prince is the Prince I fell in love with but he's not my Prince. The back catalogue was one thing but the Prince I grew-up with was the 90's Prince. The Prince of my 20th b-day was Emancipation. The Prince of my 25th b-day was NPGMC and TRC. The OST of my year 2009 (a year I remember fondly for many reasons) is the Lotusflow3r trilogy. Our love for music is associated with how it resonates with our own lives (for example I also tripped a lot on the Electric Dreams OST when I discovered it in 2009, and to me this record will always be associated with 2009, not 1984 when it was released). The 78-88 albums were the albums I tripped on when I dived into the back catalogue in 90-91, and to me they are mostly associated to those years I listened to them very intensively, say 1990-1993. I was 13 to 15 years old, I was basically still a child and those years have become relatively unimportant in the narrative of my own life. Now all the memories associated with 1993-2016, this is my formative years, then my life as an adult... Add to that that Prince's post-1995 unreleased catalogue, whether we're talking outtakes, rehearsals or SBD shows, has been much less bootlegged and documented than earlier years, and you'll realize why it's of great interest to me, maybe greater than the 78-88 vault material. A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ |
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The first IDEA is THE BEST! and the book of notes, poetry (and the TIDAL release ...vault content... P&m `16...do that later...PLEASE...) |
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yello1 said:
The first IDEA is THE BEST! and the book of notes, poetry (and the TIDAL release ...vault content... P&m `16...do that later...PLEASE...) For the 1st idea...i prefer cohesive era compilation than a mixed periods compilation! | |
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Another Crystall Ball or The Vault is exactly what I want. I agree chronological ordering would be better, but at this point I'd take it all released in one go please, as is. Let us figure it all out ourselves [Edited 10/19/18 3:15am] [Edited 10/19/18 3:16am] My password is what |
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I like that Sony wants to release some of Prince's unreleased albums  It brings hope that we don't have to wait too long for some good material.Welcome 2 The Dawn | |
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Agree. Almost word for word same for me. | |
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it's interesting, because I'm always eager to look, but I never see all the threads discussing that latter work 90s etc in detail and such. I look for them though. I'm created someone myself, but they never get much traction.
One of you should do a An Effort to Guesstimate the Amount of Unreleased Material from 1991-2000 thread
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I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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