FullLipsDotNose said:

That sounds so cool

Although I have to admit I know little about Duvernay's work. I've only seen the Family Feud video by her, but it was awesome.

I went to a ultra private screening of Ava's documentary movie 13th that she attended and spoke at. When she gets involved in something. She gives it her ALL. I have no doubt that this documentary will be the BEST ever done on Prince or anyone else. I'm not worried in the least about it. She is the PERFECT candidate to have done it.

UptownGirl319 said:

BartVanHemelen said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

I just saw "Bohemian Rhapsody" the Freddy Mecury biopic last night. It was BRILLIANTLY done.

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It really isn't. It is a whitewash of Mercury's life, for instance focusing at length on his straight marriage while ignoring his gay life etc. Not showing his debauched parties (including for instance dwarves carrying coke-filled trays on their head) is ridiculous. Etc. It's yet another episode of May & Taylor desperately trying to keep the Queen brand alive despite Freddie being dead longer than he was part of the band(!).

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And again... I agree.

I went to see the movie yesterday.

It's OK. But if not for this post, I would've forgotten it already.

Props to the actor who had to do Freddy though - stong acting.

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But indeed, this movie doens't go (that) deep (at all).

Not that we need to see parties with dwarves carrying coke-filed trays on their heads.

Or a fist party or any sleazy detail for that matter. Use your imagination, that's already sick enough.

But the secrecy of the early AIDS problems, how it was dealth with, the former background known as very conservative, and a hostile attitude towards this issue.

Not to mention how record firms reacted to all this, the cover-ups etc.

Or how basically the whole world was under the spell of this at the time.

Some 'Sign 'O The Times' really...

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Maybe it's too early to have this movie.

Queen fans porbably, possibly aren't in for all these sensative side paths of their beloved rockstar.

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(Look at most of us Prince fans... Some of us (most of us?) can't even deal with the death of our own dear purple star, a strange but normal person w've never met personaly in our lives.)

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And like Bart states, the Queen brand is far more important.

Probably the studios have their money mindsand hands in this as well.

Aids issues from the eighties still suffer from taboo and also some sort of ignorance in 2018...

Most people think it's more or less cureable now.

Nope it isn't.

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violetcrush said:

milesb said:

The Omnibus documentary is the best Prince documentary so far. It came out around the time Diamonds and Pearls was being released. It went into the man behind the music and included tantalising snips from the Camden 88 aftershow, The Ladder soundcheck, Prince in the studio with Mavis, Diamonds and Pearls tour rehearsals.

The best music documentary series I've ever seen was The Beatles Anthology.

6 part series. If you haven't seen it, it's worth checking out.

If Ava can do something even half as good as that, I'll be happy

The BBC docu Prince - A Purple Reign, which was released in 2011, uses footage from that Omnibus film. I like the way it's narrated, and it captures key points in his life from the beginning. It's only about an hour long though, so it just scratches the surface of each time period up to 2011.

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How long was the Ominibus film? What is the actual title of the film?

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Here is the YT video for the BBC Prince - A Purple Reign video:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlTwe9LxZ8w&t=566s

This is the one I'm talking about. Top notch.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5821ed

Check it out. They had access to Vault stuff back then

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Vannormal said:

Vannormal said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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It really isn't. It is a whitewash of Mercury's life, for instance focusing at length on his straight marriage while ignoring his gay life etc. Not showing his debauched parties (including for instance dwarves carrying coke-filled trays on their head) is ridiculous. Etc. It's yet another episode of May & Taylor desperately trying to keep the Queen brand alive despite Freddie being dead longer than he was part of the band(!).

-

And again... I agree.

I went to see the movie yesterday.

It's OK. But if not for this post, I would've forgotten it already.

Props to the actor who had to do Freddy though - stong acting.

-

But indeed, this movie doens't go (that) deep (at all).

Not that we need to see parties with dwarves carrying coke-filed trays on their heads.

Or a fist party or any sleazy detail for that matter. Use your imagination, that's already sick enough.

But the secrecy of the early AIDS problems, how it was dealth with, the former background known as very conservative, and a hostile attitude towards this issue.

Not to mention how record firms reacted to all this, the cover-ups etc.

Or how basically the whole world was under the spell of this at the time.

Some 'Sign 'O The Times' really...

-

Maybe it's too early to have this movie.

Queen fans porbably, possibly aren't in for all these sensative side paths of their beloved rockstar.

-

(Look at most of us Prince fans... Some of us (most of us?) can't even deal with the death of our own dear purple star, a strange but normal person w've never met personaly in our lives.)

-

And like Bart states, the Queen brand is far more important.

Probably the studios have their money mindsand hands in this as well.

Aids issues from the eighties still suffer from taboo and also some sort of ignorance in 2018...

Most people think it's more or less cureable now.

Nope it isn't.

-

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Speak 4 urself.....

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

Vannormal said:

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And again... I agree.

I went to see the movie yesterday.

It's OK. But if not for this post, I would've forgotten it already.

Props to the actor who had to do Freddy though - stong acting.

-

But indeed, this movie doens't go (that) deep (at all).

Not that we need to see parties with dwarves carrying coke-filed trays on their heads.

Or a fist party or any sleazy detail for that matter. Use your imagination, that's already sick enough.

But the secrecy of the early AIDS problems, how it was dealth with, the former background known as very conservative, and a hostile attitude towards this issue.

Not to mention how record firms reacted to all this, the cover-ups etc.

Or how basically the whole world was under the spell of this at the time.

Some 'Sign 'O The Times' really...

-

Maybe it's too early to have this movie.

Queen fans porbably, possibly aren't in for all these sensative side paths of their beloved rockstar.

-

(Look at most of us Prince fans... Some of us (most of us?) can't even deal with the death of our own dear purple star, a strange but normal person w've never met personaly in our lives.)

-

And like Bart states, the Queen brand is far more important.

Probably the studios have their money mindsand hands in this as well.

Aids issues from the eighties still suffer from taboo and also some sort of ignorance in 2018...

Most people think it's more or less cureable now.

Nope it isn't.

-

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This movie also made changes to the events for “dramatic purposes” Some major events never happened or at least not how they are portrayed on film. If they did this to a Prince film people will be LIVID!

I saw it too. Its basically a VH-1 movie of the week. Still was kind of fun. The moral of the story is dont mind a certain persons opinion lol

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rdhull said:

rogifan said:

I hope it’s good. That new Queen movie is getting horrible reviews.

She also destroyed A Wrinkle in Time. I am not hopeful.

ChocolateBox3121 said:

FullLipsDotNose said:

That sounds so cool

Although I have to admit I know little about Duvernay's work. I've only seen the Family Feud video by her, but it was awesome.

I went to a ultra private screening of Ava's documentary movie 13th that she attended and spoke at. When she gets involved in something. She gives it her ALL. I have no doubt that this documentary will be the BEST ever done on Prince or anyone else. I'm not worried in the least about it. She is the PERFECT candidate to have done it.

Which means exactly nothing.

I'm doing a play right now in which I have to simulate graying hair by spraying parts of it silver with a special spray paint that's supposed to wash out easily. I gave it my all in the shower Saturday night (lathered my hair twice - and conditioned it). And yet, I still had silver paint in my hair when all was said and done.

This woman "gave her all" to A Wrinkle In Time - and totally ruined it.

See where I'm going with this?

Welp, be nice to focus on one documentary and not try smushing info about 2 separate docs not even related to each other into one convo. Back tracking Ava's, IF IT HAPPENS, isn't a film, so the odds are good there. More archival than re-creation. Again, IF IT HAPPENS.


The 2nd one dealing with 1983 and the Revolution, I have no idea who's doing that one but it got smushed in with Ava's which it shouldn't have since there'll probably be a ton of projects over the next few years. Why smush them all together in one story.

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rdhull said: They could/should be erased from his repetoire and they wouldnt be missed.

Stop the car!

onlyforaminute said:

Welp, be nice to focus on one documentary and not try smushing info about 2 separate docs not even related to each other into one convo. Back tracking Ava's, IF IT HAPPENS, isn't a film, so the odds are good there. More archival than re-creation. Again, IF IT HAPPENS.


The 2nd one dealing with 1983 and the Revolution, I have no idea who's doing that one but it got smushed in with Ava's which it shouldn't have since there'll probably be a ton of projects over the next few years. Why smush them all together in one story.

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But if Ava is doing a complete history of Prince and his music then the historic 1983 1st Avenue show would most certainly be covered in her film.

Genesia said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

I went to a ultra private screening of Ava's documentary movie 13th that she attended and spoke at. When she gets involved in something. She gives it her ALL. I have no doubt that this documentary will be the BEST ever done on Prince or anyone else. I'm not worried in the least about it. She is the PERFECT candidate to have done it.

Which means exactly nothing.

I'm doing a play right now in which I have to simulate graying hair by spraying parts of it silver with a special spray paint that's supposed to wash out easily. I gave it my all in the shower Saturday night (lathered my hair twice - and conditioned it). And yet, I still had silver paint in my hair when all was said and done.

This woman "gave her all" to A Wrinkle In Time - and totally ruined it.

See where I'm going with this?

Everything can't be a number one hit boo boo. Every movie Prince did wasn't a hit either. But they're appreciated & both are STILL highly respected artist for their craft.

Who asked U anyway?!

since she's a "fan" how bad could it be??

Vannormal said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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It really isn't. It is a whitewash of Mercury's life, for instance focusing at length on his straight marriage while ignoring his gay life etc. Not showing his debauched parties (including for instance dwarves carrying coke-filled trays on their head) is ridiculous. Etc. It's yet another episode of May & Taylor desperately trying to keep the Queen brand alive despite Freddie being dead longer than he was part of the band(!).

-

And again... I agree.

I went to see the movie yesterday.

It's OK. But if not for this post, I would've forgotten it already.

Props to the actor who had to do Freddy though - stong acting.

-

But indeed, this movie doens't go (that) deep (at all).

Not that we need to see parties with dwarves carrying coke-filed trays on their heads.

Or a fist party or any sleazy detail for that matter. Use your imagination, that's already sick enough.

But the secrecy of the early AIDS problems, how it was dealth with, the former background known as very conservative, and a hostile attitude towards this issue.

Not to mention how record firms reacted to all this, the cover-ups etc.

Or how basically the whole world was under the spell of this at the time.

Some 'Sign 'O The Times' really...

-

Maybe it's too early to have this movie.

Queen fans porbably, possibly aren't in for all these sensative side paths of their beloved rockstar.

-

(Look at most of us Prince fans... Some of us (most of us?) can't even deal with the death of our own dear purple star, a strange but normal person w've never met personaly in our lives.)

-

And like Bart states, the Queen brand is far more important.

Probably the studios have their money mindsand hands in this as well.

Aids issues from the eighties still suffer from taboo and also some sort of ignorance in 2018...

Most people think it's more or less cureable now.

Nope it isn't.

-

[Edited 11/5/18 1:11am]

I thought it was good Remay should get an Oscar for it. Yes, it skimmed over a lot in Freddies life, and some things are a miss, but I'd go see it again!

violetcrush said:

onlyforaminute said:

Welp, be nice to focus on one documentary and not try smushing info about 2 separate docs not even related to each other into one convo. Back tracking Ava's, IF IT HAPPENS, isn't a film, so the odds are good there. More archival than re-creation. Again, IF IT HAPPENS.


The 2nd one dealing with 1983 and the Revolution, I have no idea who's doing that one but it got smushed in with Ava's which it shouldn't have since there'll probably be a ton of projects over the next few years. Why smush them all together in one story.

[Edited 11/5/18 12:57pm]

But if Ava is doing a complete history of Prince and his music then the historic 1983 1st Avenue show would most certainly be covered in her film.

Maybe, but the article goes into another documentary which is focused on that event so that is something separate than what Ava is doing, a separate conversation.

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Genesia said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Everything can't be a number one hit boo boo. Every movie Prince did wasn't a hit either. But they're appreciated & both are STILL highly respected artist for their craft.

Who asked U anyway?!

This a message board, honey. If you can’t handle contrary opinions, go find yourself an echo chamber somewhere.

He went to an ultra private screening

rdhull said:

Can't say I'm thrilled with Ava, she's kinda brand new still. If she can approach this without hashtag movement additions or agendas, then we'll see.

OldFriends4Sale said:

Can't say I'm thrilled with Ava, she's kinda brand new still. If she can approach this without hashtag movement additions or agendas, then we'll see.

My position is that I'll take a look and listen to any Bio film that has been professionally done. If it gives me insight or information on Prince that I did not have prior to watching then it's a good thing. If not, well....on to the next.

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

I think any Prince bio would have to be about a specefic time or event. You cannot cover the entire Prince life, work, and impact in one film. And most bios do just that, focus on one spect while sprinkling in a back story. A lot of rock artist died early and had one or two defining songs or achievements. (The exemptions would be The Stones, The Beatles and Elton) And the music with those guys were collaborative. Band efforts. Even Elton is a collaboration. Prince produced so much work. He was known to be a workaholic and produced work and performances up the wazooo. Too much to cover in any single movie.

I don't think it's going to be a single film. My guess is that it will be, or it should be, shown as a long series - similar to the PBS New York Docu, which was an eight-part 17 hr series. Still, it would be tough to detail a life and career that spanned 57 years with 40 years of music.

Genesia said:

milesb said:

This has the BBC Omnibus doco to live up to. Which has set the bar.

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Omnibus was a gold standard documentary show. And to think that their Prince doc only featured so much archive material because they'd traveled to Minneapolis because they were to interview Prince (their usual MO when portraying an artist) and of course he'd changed his mind when they arrived, so in exchange they got access to a bunch of vault footage (e.g. from Magnoli's unfinished(?) and unreleased documentary that he was making during the Lovesexy era).

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

jdcxc said: