violetcrush said:

Genesia said:

The marketing package (AKA press kit) that every artist who was trying to get in at a major record label would have. Do you really think Prince just walked into CBS and Warner with a cassette and a handwritten note that said,

Dear Sirs:

My name is Prince, I'm from Minneapolis, and I'm 18 years old. Here is a cassette tape of some songs I've been working on. Would you like to listen to them? I'd really, really appreciate it.

Your friend,

Prince Rogers Nelson

and signed his name with a heart over the "i" in "Prince"? And then got a meeting out of it?

Get real.

Right. Husney knew they would not even give HIM the time of day - he was also a "nothing" from MN as well. He had no credibility in the music business at all. He had never even managed a musician prior to Prince. Husney has stated that he created a lie in order to get Prince in the door. He played the labels against each other, by telling each that the other had scheduled a meeting with them and/or made an offer to them. He knew enough of how to play the game to get them in the door. He also supported and fought for Prince to produce his first record. This had NEVER been done before.

Here is one of the best documentaries on Prince and his history that I have seen. It was produced by the BBC, and chronicles his life and music from the beginning, with interviews from Husney, Dez, Alan Leeds, Jon Bream, Alan Light, Pepe Willie and more. I watched this not long after Prince passed. I think it was done in the late 90's or early 2000's. Lots of detailed information on how Prince got his start.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlTwe9LxZ8w

violetcrush said:

violetcrush said:

Right. Husney knew they would not even give HIM the time of day - he was also a "nothing" from MN as well. He had no credibility in the music business at all. He had never even managed a musician prior to Prince. Husney has stated that he created a lie in order to get Prince in the door. He played the labels against each other, by telling each that the other had scheduled a meeting with them and/or made an offer to them. He knew enough of how to play the game to get them in the door. He also supported and fought for Prince to produce his first record. This had NEVER been done before.

Here is one of the best documentaries on Prince and his history that I have seen. It was produced by the BBC, and chronicles his life and music from the beginning, with interviews from Husney, Dez, Alan Leeds, Jon Bream, Alan Light, Pepe Willie and more. I watched this not long after Prince passed. I think it was done in the late 90's or early 2000's. Lots of detailed information on how Prince got his start.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlTwe9LxZ8w

Even better - here is Owen Husney talking to the Prince Podcast about first meeting Prince and helping him to get started and to get a record deal - sorry about no hyperlink...not sure why I can't get it.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r98e1sdI20

violetcrush said:

violetcrush said:

Here is one of the best documentaries on Prince and his history that I have seen. It was produced by the BBC, and chronicles his life and music from the beginning, with interviews from Husney, Dez, Alan Leeds, Jon Bream, Alan Light, Pepe Willie and more. I watched this not long after Prince passed. I think it was done in the late 90's or early 2000's. Lots of detailed information on how Prince got his start.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlTwe9LxZ8w

Even better - here is Owen Husney talking to the Prince Podcast about first meeting Prince and helping him to get started and to get a record deal - sorry about no hyperlink...not sure why I can't get it.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r98e1sdI20

Starting at 38:00 Husney talks about making the press kits for the record companies, and re-doing the demo tapes that Chris Moon had done with Prince.

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violetcrush said:

violetcrush said:

Even better - here is Owen Husney talking to the Prince Podcast about first meeting Prince and helping him to get started and to get a record deal - sorry about no hyperlink...not sure why I can't get it.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r98e1sdI20

Starting at 38:00 Husney talks about making the press kits for the record companies, and re-doing the demo tapes that Chris Moon had done with Prince.

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Wow, fantastic interview iwth Husney. I did not know he got Jesse Johnson and Andre their deals too. I liked his candidness and wiillingness to share the history.

Strong dark color. This is why Prince chose purple.

OldFriends4Sale said:

violetcrush said:

Right, in fact he just hovered above in the clouds and floated from one place to the next. Remember, he did say, "I live in the world, but I am not of it"

I'm not a woman
I'm not a man
I am something that you'll never understand

I am something that you'll never comprehend

I'm not a human
I am a dove
I'm your conscious
I am love

Did Prince ever have a bad hair day?

BTW-He received alot of help, IMO

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42Kristen said:

Strong dark color. This is why Prince chose purple.

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Purple
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Hex triplet	#800080
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Purple is a color intermediate between blue and red.^[1][2] It is similar to violet, but unlike violet, which is a spectral color with its own wavelength on the visible spectrum of light, purple is a composite color made by combining red and blue.^[3] According to surveys in Europe and the U.S., purple is the color most often associated with royalty, magic, mystery, and piety.^[4]When combined with pink, it is associated with eroticism, femininity, and seduction.^[5]

Purple was the color worn by Roman magistrates; it became the imperial color worn by the rulers of the Byzantine Empire and the Holy Roman Empire, and later by Roman Catholicbishops. Similarly in Japan, the color is traditionally associated with the Emperor and aristocracy.^[6] The complementary color of purple is yellow.^[7]

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I think this is why he chose the color purple....along with some advice from his first mentor.

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Interesting that the complimentary color to purple is yellow - From Crystal Ball - "Only the sound of love and prayer echo from the yellow floor, Yellow floor"

Somebody needs to add Prince in his purple coat or his purple symbol to this group of pictures

the point that everyone seems to magnify their place in Prince lore is true, it happens with every icon that passes, Ike Turner once said Elvis stole his moves from watching him play piano in the early days. who knows? brown mark said he came up with a lot of the choreography, who knows? I love what morris hayes said about a lot of people making claims that he knows wasn't true. Prince was a winner, winners have a lot of people claiming them, losers are orphans.

PeteSilas said:

violetcrush said:

Somebody needs to add Prince in his purple coat or his purple symbol to this group of pictures

violetcrush said:

PeteSilas said:

the point that everyone seems to magnify their place in Prince lore is true, it happens with every icon that passes, Ike Turner once said Elvis stole his moves from watching him play piano in the early days. who knows? brown mark said he came up with a lot of the choreography, who knows? I love what morris hayes said about a lot of people making claims that he knows wasn't true. Prince was a winner, winners have a lot of people claiming them, losers are orphans.

I like Morris Hayes, but in fairness, Morris was not around in the 70's, nor was he there during the time with The Revolution. Prince had a lot to learn about the business when he started, so it is very realistic to think that Husney and Moon gave him advice or suggestions in many areas. He obviously had his own ideas and vision too. I think it was a collaborative effort on the business side. It's also possible that Mark contributed ideas for the dance moves on the PR tour. Why not?

you're totally missing my point, and morris'. he was around for just about longer than anyone and he said that some people were saying things that weren't true, he did not mention the early folks, I did, because it would no doubt be true for them too. I don't doubt that Prince got ideas from a lot of people, i also don't doubt that people are making shit up to promote themselves, like i said, it happens with all of them. Moon deserves full credit for a lot of things, one, more important than the color purple is the use of sexuality and crassness, he did , after all, put prince up to the song soft and wet when prince probably had very little experience with pussy at that point. It worked brilliantly even though prince took it ridiculously far by dirty mind.

PeteSilas said:

PeteSilas said:

violetcrush said:

PeteSilas said: I like Morris Hayes, but in fairness, Morris was not around in the 70's, nor was he there during the time with The Revolution. Prince had a lot to learn about the business when he started, so it is very realistic to think that Husney and Moon gave him advice or suggestions in many areas. He obviously had his own ideas and vision too. I think it was a collaborative effort on the business side. It's also possible that Mark contributed ideas for the dance moves on the PR tour. Why not?

you're totally missing my point, and morris'. he was around for just about longer than anyone and he said that some people were saying things that weren't true, he did not mention the early folks, I did, because it would no doubt be true for them too. I don't doubt that Prince got ideas from a lot of people, i also don't doubt that people are making shit up to promote themselves, like i said, it happens with all of them. Moon deserves full credit for a lot of things, one, more important than the color purple is the use of sexuality and crassness, he did , after all, put prince up to the song soft and wet when prince probably had very little experience with pussy at that point. It worked brilliantly even though prince took it ridiculously far by dirty mind.

But he wasn't around till after 1990 as a result of BrownMark on top of that.

Morris Hayes who also had a falling out with Prince, can only go by what Prince told him.
And like when Prince said in 1990 that 'remember the Time was his'Morris Day's' band that Morris fired Jimmy and Terry... Prince told things for his own narrative too..

violetcrush said:

Somebody needs to add Prince in his purple coat or his purple symbol to this group of pictures

This symbol will always be my Prince connection over the latter one used.

This one represents Prince's musical noituloveR, the New breed, Paisley Park, Erotic City!!!

OldFriends4Sale said:

PeteSilas said:

you're totally missing my point, and morris'. he was around for just about longer than anyone and he said that some people were saying things that weren't true, he did not mention the early folks, I did, because it would no doubt be true for them too. I don't doubt that Prince got ideas from a lot of people, i also don't doubt that people are making shit up to promote themselves, like i said, it happens with all of them. Moon deserves full credit for a lot of things, one, more important than the color purple is the use of sexuality and crassness, he did , after all, put prince up to the song soft and wet when prince probably had very little experience with pussy at that point. It worked brilliantly even though prince took it ridiculously far by dirty mind.

But he wasn't around till after 1990 as a result of BrownMark on top of that.

Morris Hayes who also had a falling out with Prince, can only go by what Prince told him.
And like when Prince said in 1990 that 'remember the Time was his'Morris Day's' band that Morris fired Jimmy and Terry... Prince told things for his own narrative too..

you didn't read the post, I'll repeat it for you. I'm not referring to any of the early people, at all. I'm referring to Morris' very good point that now that P is dead people can claim anything and he knows some have. The people morris was speaking of were most likely the people that were around in the 20 years he was with him so that he would know.

violetcrush said:

PeteSilas said:

you're totally missing my point, and morris'. he was around for just about longer than anyone and he said that some people were saying things that weren't true, he did not mention the early folks, I did, because it would no doubt be true for them too. I don't doubt that Prince got ideas from a lot of people, i also don't doubt that people are making shit up to promote themselves, like i said, it happens with all of them. Moon deserves full credit for a lot of things, one, more important than the color purple is the use of sexuality and crassness, he did , after all, put prince up to the song soft and wet when prince probably had very little experience with pussy at that point. It worked brilliantly even though prince took it ridiculously far by dirty mind.

Yes, I think Moon and Husney did a lot for Prince - they had to, because he was just a kid with no money or connections starting from ground zero. I really enjoyed the interview with Husney. Would be interesting to know the people that Morris is referring to when he talks about people lying about their contributions.

i've personally been suspicious about many people who came out post death. Applonia's stories sounded suspect, as any other people who claimed to have some kind of inside info about the man's demise.

For what it's worth purple is not the color Prince references most in his lyrics (from officially released songs). It's actually fifth or sixth. Black is the color mentioned the most. Other than Leaving for New York and Purple Music (both unreleased), I'm fairly certain the color purple is not mentioned until the 1999 album. And then from about 1996 - 2004 "purple" is not mentioned in his lyrics at all...

Even if Moon was the one who suggested it, it's not like it was a strikingly original suggestion. His name was Prince and purple has long been associated with royalty in western European cultures.

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OldFriends4Sale said:

violetcrush said:

Somebody needs to add Prince in his purple coat or his purple symbol to this group of pictures

This symbol will always be my Prince connection over the latter one used.

This one represents Prince's musical noituloveR, the New breed, Paisley Park, Erotic City!!!

That mythical back sleeve.
This was my favorite wrecka sleeve for years.
I miss the "one font per song" days. Like, every song has to have its own logo.
Maybe the experience of Moon in advertising and its possible influence on Prince isn't such a daydream.
The whole Purple Rain concept was impeccably branded. So much attention to details.

PeteSilas said:

violetcrush said:

PeteSilas said: Yes, I think Moon and Husney did a lot for Prince - they had to, because he was just a kid with no money or connections starting from ground zero. I really enjoyed the interview with Husney. Would be interesting to know the people that Morris is referring to when he talks about people lying about their contributions.

i've personally been suspicious about many people who came out post death. Applonia's stories sounded suspect, as any other people who claimed to have some kind of inside info about the man's demise.

You can also assume Prince's friends respected his privacy, and didn't go round telling stories about him while he was alive, according to his wishes.

violetcrush said:

LaurenceNoonan said:

I've read that stroy 2

That could very well be true. Susan Rogers stated that Prince picked the colors (peach and black) and polka dot outfits for the SOTT album/tour, because these were Suannah Melvoins favortie colors and style. He also played the peach guitar.

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There is no doubt that girlfriends, associates, friends and others brought ideas and inspiration to him throughout his life - espeicially with his music, but also with general life/business choices. All humans do this, and he was no exception. After all, he was human too. A genius musician, but also human. If anything, he would take inspiration from others more than the average person, because he was an artist. This is what they do.

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Never knew that about Suannah and what you said is 100% true and lets be honest here, Prince looked good in any colour

violetcrush said:

I like Morris Hayes, but in fairness, Morris was not around in the 70's, nor was he there during the time with The Revolution. Prince had a lot to learn about the business when he started, so it is very realistic to think that Husney and Moon gave him advice or suggestions in many areas. He obviously had his own ideas and vision too. I think it was a collaborative effort on the business side. It's also possible that Mark contributed ideas for the dance moves on the PR tour. Why not?

Because BrownMark can't dance worth a crap. BM said he choreographed PR.

PeteSilas said:

i've personally been suspicious about many people who came out post death. Applonia's stories sounded suspect, as any other people who claimed to have some kind of inside info about the man's demise.

I agree Pete. Anymore I'm not interested in much they have to say, because we can't believe 75% of it.

PennyPurple said:

violetcrush said:

I like Morris Hayes, but in fairness, Morris was not around in the 70's, nor was he there during the time with The Revolution. Prince had a lot to learn about the business when he started, so it is very realistic to think that Husney and Moon gave him advice or suggestions in many areas. He obviously had his own ideas and vision too. I think it was a collaborative effort on the business side. It's also possible that Mark contributed ideas for the dance moves on the PR tour. Why not?

Because BrownMark can't dance worth a crap. BM said he choreographed PR.

please come on, Prince couldn't dance either prior to the 84 period, he started focusing more on it.

Why is it hard to believe they worked on steps for certain songs. They weren't doing Janet Jackson dances. Have you ever even watched videos and concerts with during the 1981-1986 period?

DevotedPuppy said:

For what it's worth purple is not the color Prince references most in his lyrics (from officially released songs). It's actually fifth or sixth. Black is the color mentioned the most. Other than Leaving for New York and Purple Music (both unreleased), I'm fairly certain the color purple is not mentioned until the 1999 album. And then from about 1996 - 2004 "purple" is not mentioned in his lyrics at all...

Even if Moon was the one who suggested it, it's not like it was a strikingly original suggestion. His name was Prince and purple has long been associated with royalty in western European cultures.

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Because mentioning the color in song all the time would be overkill. And cheesy

The use of Black in all instances is not in reference to a 'color'.

And remember for a period he tried to run from himself and not even use his name Prince from 1993/94-2001/02

the band Queen did not use the color purple, so it does mean Prince would automatically use the color purple. Royal colors are beyond just purple. But certain darker rich tones: red, blue, green and purple

...not to mention gold

OldFriends4Sale said:

I always loved that artwork and felt that it could have led to an 'era' look in its own right. Something like the Dance Electric/Roadhouse Garden.

It's rare offical artwork bleeds whats to come, but the paisley shadow, with smaller hair was either a stroke of artistist genius or pure luck.

OldFriends4Sale said:

DevotedPuppy said:

For what it's worth purple is not the color Prince references most in his lyrics (from officially released songs). It's actually fifth or sixth. Black is the color mentioned the most. Other than Leaving for New York and Purple Music (both unreleased), I'm fairly certain the color purple is not mentioned until the 1999 album. And then from about 1996 - 2004 "purple" is not mentioned in his lyrics at all...

Even if Moon was the one who suggested it, it's not like it was a strikingly original suggestion. His name was Prince and purple has long been associated with royalty in western European cultures.

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Because mentioning the color in song all the time would be overkill. And cheesy

The use of Black in all instances is not in reference to a 'color'.

And remember for a period he tried to run from himself and not even use his name Prince from 1993/94-2001/02

the band Queen did not use the color purple, so it does mean Prince would automatically use the color purple. Royal colors are beyond just purple. But certain darker rich tones: red, blue, green and purple

...not to mention gold

1. you missed my point

2. black is first and foremost defined as a color. not even sure what your point is but by your train of thought purple in all instances is also not in reference to a 'color' then...

3. thanks for reminding me why I rarely visit or post here anymore

DevotedPuppy said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Because mentioning the color in song all the time would be overkill. And cheesy

The use of Black in all instances is not in reference to a 'color'.

And remember for a period he tried to run from himself and not even use his name Prince from 1993/94-2001/02

the band Queen did not use the color purple, so it does mean Prince would automatically use the color purple. Royal colors are beyond just purple. But certain darker rich tones: red, blue, green and purple

...not to mention gold

1. you missed my point

2. black is first and foremost defined as a color. not even sure what your point is but by your train of thought purple in all instances is also not in reference to a 'color' then...

3. thanks for reminding me why I rarely visit or post here anymore

I got your point

but we know that Prince associate Purple with who he is. He even had the band membes and protege bands wearing purple eye shadow. We know purple was his color, and as far as I know, black was not focused on in any way from 1978-1984

The idea that you are now offended, because I/we didn't saw 'oh you are right we are wrong' is not even realistic. Where in the world are you going to go and not expect discussion and discourse? Why are you taking this so personally? No one attacked you. Nothing I posted should have been taken to such extreme, but if you choose not to visit, because you will feel rejection, that is one you.

DevotedPuppy said: