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Reply #30 posted 08/27/18 3:33pm

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"The Sky Was All Purple" .....

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Reply #31 posted 08/27/18 3:35pm

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I never noticed much love for Prince in South America or Africa when I was there. He also never toured there except for Rock In Rio.

I think he should have Funked It Up a little in South America and Africa .... razz cool

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Reply #32 posted 08/27/18 3:38pm

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Guitarhero said:

The UK , Erotic City.

With that name I assume you play Guitar?

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Reply #33 posted 08/27/18 3:53pm

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Astasheiks said:

"The Sky Was All Purple" .....

[Edited 8/27/18 15:39pm]

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"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #34 posted 08/27/18 4:00pm

Empress

Toronto, Ontario, Canada in the house!! razz
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Reply #35 posted 08/27/18 4:01pm

Empress

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πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦, eh!

Awesome!
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Reply #36 posted 08/27/18 4:16pm

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purplethunder3121 said:

Astasheiks said:

"The Sky Was All Purple" .....

[Edited 8/27/18 15:39pm]

Rainy Cloud animated emoticon

lol razz cool

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Reply #37 posted 08/27/18 4:36pm

Purplegarden

Kia Ora! - From New Zealand here!

I got plenty good loving for ya baby
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Reply #38 posted 08/27/18 10:28pm

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databank said:

^Also, Wham! was the first Western band ever allowed to play (ans sell records) in China in 1985, but when I asked my university students if they knew who that George Michael dude who had just died was, they all shrugged. MJ is now widely known here (at least by urban young people, I wouldn't bet on the old or the countryside), but I remember coming to China the week after he died in 2009, and all the young Chinese were discovering his music videos online and tripping because they'd just learned that an icon had died, and before that they had no idea who he was: suddenly there was a MJ craze in China

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I actually remember thinking when Prince was alive and I lived in Cambodia or India and Prince was sometimes complaining that he couldn't just go walk in the streets and shop without an escort, like any regular guy, but if he'd come to those countries he could spend days roaming around in the streets and shops and there wouldn't be a soul to recognize him. I'm actually pretty stunned it didn't occur to him (and other stars) to do that.

I don't know how old your students were, but there is a difference between knowing about someone and being crazy about them. In 00s, people usually thought that MJ was an irrelevant freak, but when he died, everyone was suddenly into him and new, younger fans emerged.

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By the way, my sister didn't know who Prince was when I asked her biggrin

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Reply #39 posted 08/28/18 12:24am

JorisE73

From Amersfoort, Netherlands to Rotterdam, Netherlands biggrin

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Reply #40 posted 08/28/18 12:28am

derico13

French too;)))
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Reply #41 posted 08/28/18 12:31am

logger

Ireland

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Reply #42 posted 08/28/18 1:12am

Cindy

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Toronto, Ontario, Canada in the house!! razz

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Reply #43 posted 08/28/18 1:54am

deanm

I'm from Australia, been a Fam since 1982.

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Reply #44 posted 08/28/18 1:54am

deanm

I'm from Australia, been a Fam since 1982.

I'll say that again! biggrin

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Reply #45 posted 08/28/18 1:54am

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FullLipsDotNose said:

databank said:

My understanding is that exposure to Western music was subject to a certain amount of censorship in the Eastern block (though it probably differed from country to country), and Prince's "hits" days were over by 1994, so Eastern Europe would have had only a few years to get into Prince.

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It's indeed interesting to note that Prince never toured Eastern Europe even after the Wall fell. Obviously one reason why Western artists don't tour certain countries is lack of an audience and/or record sales, but also the economic factor (you won't easily find thousands of people to pay 100 dollars for a ticket in countries with lower incomes).

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Has it become common for American (or even British) superstars to play in Prague, or does it remain quite exceptionnal?

As NorthC has pointed out, there have been The Rolling Stones (100,000k people in 1990), Michael Jackson (he also met VΓ‘clav Havel), Avril Lavigne, Christina Aguilera, BeyoncΓ©, Black Eyed Peas, Lenny Kravitz (including Brno), Paul mac Cartney, Rihanna, Macy Gray (in Brno), Redman and Method Man play every five years in Hradec KrΓ‘lovΓ© at Hi Hop Kemp... That's what I've been able to tell on the top of my head.

James Brown was there twice not long before his passing, with some excellent shows. Bob Dylan two years ago. Tina Turner was there on Letna around MJ's time. Radiohead in Stromovka. Metallica about every year. George Michael did cancel at the very end though. I did miss the Stones there but was at Jackson. Madonna had a superb show in Prague. Chili Peppers ok. And loads of others... But some of the very biggest names skip us and play in Hungary (or Vienna in P's case, lately)

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Reply #46 posted 08/28/18 3:34am

Rimshottbob

South coast of England, here... been a massive fan since 1992.

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Reply #47 posted 08/28/18 3:51am

BlueShakooo

Not hardcore, but enthusiast.

From Germany.

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Reply #48 posted 08/28/18 4:27am

leecaldon

databank said:

^Also, Wham! was the first Western band ever allowed to play (ans sell records) in China in 1985, but when I asked my university students if they knew who that George Michael dude who had just died was, they all shrugged. MJ is now widely known here (at least by urban young people, I wouldn't bet on the old or the countryside), but I remember coming to China the week after he died in 2009, and all the young Chinese were discovering his music videos online and tripping because they'd just learned that an icon had died, and before that they had no idea who he was: suddenly there was a MJ craze in China

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I actually remember thinking when Prince was alive and I lived in Cambodia or India and Prince was sometimes complaining that he couldn't just go walk in the streets and shop without an escort, like any regular guy, but if he'd come to those countries he could spend days roaming around in the streets and shops and there wouldn't be a soul to recognize him. I'm actually pretty stunned it didn't occur to him (and other stars) to do that.

You often hear chat show stories from various stars how they are in the middle of nowhere, where they expect no one will recognise them, and suddenly some guy in a rainforest is pointing at Will Smith and shouting, "Fresh Prince!!"

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Reply #49 posted 08/28/18 4:28am

leecaldon

London, England

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Reply #50 posted 08/28/18 6:39am

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You need to ask? rolleyes

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #51 posted 08/28/18 7:04am

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POLAND here smile

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Reply #52 posted 08/28/18 7:42am

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leecaldon said:

databank said:

^Also, Wham! was the first Western band ever allowed to play (ans sell records) in China in 1985, but when I asked my university students if they knew who that George Michael dude who had just died was, they all shrugged. MJ is now widely known here (at least by urban young people, I wouldn't bet on the old or the countryside), but I remember coming to China the week after he died in 2009, and all the young Chinese were discovering his music videos online and tripping because they'd just learned that an icon had died, and before that they had no idea who he was: suddenly there was a MJ craze in China

.

I actually remember thinking when Prince was alive and I lived in Cambodia or India and Prince was sometimes complaining that he couldn't just go walk in the streets and shop without an escort, like any regular guy, but if he'd come to those countries he could spend days roaming around in the streets and shops and there wouldn't be a soul to recognize him. I'm actually pretty stunned it didn't occur to him (and other stars) to do that.

You often hear chat show stories from various stars how they are in the middle of nowhere, where they expect no one will recognise them, and suddenly some guy in a rainforest is pointing at Will Smith and shouting, "Fresh Prince!!"

lol

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Fair enough, but even if Prince was walking in the streets of Phnom Penh, Beijing or Mumbai and someone would scream "Prince", everyone else in the street would be like "Who?" and shrug. You may be recognized and annoyed by a person here and there, but you won't end-up with a crowd chasing you as you would in NY or Paris.

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Also, it depends who you are: movie stars are more well known in Asia because Amercian movies have become common, and pop stars from the last 10-15 years are also more easily recognized than older ones. The planet is shrinking fast. Typically Star Wars has a very small fanbase in Asia, at least did until the recent revival, because Western films were very much absent at the time of the OT, and still relatively rare at the time of the Prequels, but the Marvel Cinematic Universe is super popular because it's a recent franchise and every urban young grew-up with those characters (again, don't count too much on people knowing those characters in small towns or villages).

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When Prince died I was living in Chennai and the following day I heard Purple Rain played loud in a house, so yes there was some awareness (or maybe it was someone's TV and they'd play it on an English-language channel), but 99% of the people I met had no clue who Prince or David Bowie was, and the remaining 1% was English-speaking elite who'd been overexposed to Western culture. Madonna or MJ they would know, or Lady Gaga and any other recent star, but not Prince or Bowie. When Bowie died, a friend asked me "David who? Do you mean David Guetta?" lol

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Reply #53 posted 08/28/18 7:48am

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FullLipsDotNose said:

databank said:

^Also, Wham! was the first Western band ever allowed to play (ans sell records) in China in 1985, but when I asked my university students if they knew who that George Michael dude who had just died was, they all shrugged. MJ is now widely known here (at least by urban young people, I wouldn't bet on the old or the countryside), but I remember coming to China the week after he died in 2009, and all the young Chinese were discovering his music videos online and tripping because they'd just learned that an icon had died, and before that they had no idea who he was: suddenly there was a MJ craze in China

.

I actually remember thinking when Prince was alive and I lived in Cambodia or India and Prince was sometimes complaining that he couldn't just go walk in the streets and shop without an escort, like any regular guy, but if he'd come to those countries he could spend days roaming around in the streets and shops and there wouldn't be a soul to recognize him. I'm actually pretty stunned it didn't occur to him (and other stars) to do that.

I don't know how old your students were, but there is a difference between knowing about someone and being crazy about them. In 00s, people usually thought that MJ was an irrelevant freak, but when he died, everyone was suddenly into him and new, younger fans emerged.

-

By the way, my sister didn't know who Prince was when I asked her biggrin

My students are about 20. Exposure to Western pop culture is quite recent in China. Only about 30 Western films are allowed in theaters every year, but of course the internet changed a lot of things. It's hard to evaluate: like I once told my students they (urban upper-middle class, English speaking, educated) may have more cultural references in common with a Western kid than with a kid from a remote Chinese village, but I'm not sure to which extent this is true.

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This being said I knew a French girl who was 20 ten years ago and she had never heard of Prince. She was born in 1987 so by the time she got into music, Prince was quite out of the picture (and she wasn't into R&B at all anyway).

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Reply #54 posted 08/28/18 7:53am

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UK - live in Swansea

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Reply #55 posted 08/28/18 8:23am

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Are any you all Musicians or Singers? If not do you know any Hardcore Prince Fan Musician?

I'm thinking about doing a International Prince Tribute. Check out this make shift Prince International Tribute, haha Of course they could all be from somewhere else. lol

  1. Bass - London
  2. Guitar – Paris
  3. Keys – Rome
  4. Drums – Munich
  5. Keys – Cali
  6. Trombone – Stockholm
  7. Trumpet – Cairo
  8. Tenor Sax – Tel Aviv
  9. Alto Sax – Athens
  10. Other Horn/Multi Instrumentalist – Monte Carlo
  11. Percussionist – Rio de Janiero
  1. Bass - Sydney
  2. Guitar – Caracas
  3. Keys – Barcelona
  4. Drums – Milan
  5. Keys – Tripoli
  6. Trombone – Vienna
  7. Trumpet – Mexico City
  8. Tenor Sax – Beirut
  9. Alto Sax – Berlin
  10. Other Horn/Multi Instrumentalist – Bogota
  11. Percussionist – Sao Paulo
  1. Bass - Casablanca
  2. Guitar – Brussels
  3. Keys – Panama City
  4. Drums – Port Alegre
  5. Keys – Madrid
  6. Trombone – Jerusalem
  7. Trumpet – San Juan
  8. Tenor Sax – Istanbul
  9. Alto Sax – Lima
  10. Other Horn/Multi Instrumentalist – Frankfurt
  11. Percussionist - Amsterdam

biggrin razz lol cool

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Reply #56 posted 08/28/18 8:39am

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TheFman said:

FullLipsDotNose said:

As NorthC has pointed out, there have been The Rolling Stones (100,000k people in 1990), Michael Jackson (he also met VΓ‘clav Havel), Avril Lavigne, Christina Aguilera, BeyoncΓ©, Black Eyed Peas, Lenny Kravitz (including Brno), Paul mac Cartney, Rihanna, Macy Gray (in Brno), Redman and Method Man play every five years in Hradec KrΓ‘lovΓ© at Hi Hop Kemp... That's what I've been able to tell on the top of my head.

James Brown was there twice not long before his passing, with some excellent shows. Bob Dylan two years ago. Tina Turner was there on Letna around MJ's time. Radiohead in Stromovka. Metallica about every year. George Michael did cancel at the very end though. I did miss the Stones there but was at Jackson. Madonna had a superb show in Prague. Chili Peppers ok. And loads of others... But some of the very biggest names skip us and play in Hungary (or Vienna in P's case, lately)

Wait, are you Czech then? eek

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Reply #57 posted 08/28/18 8:40am

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Astasheiks said:

Are any you all Musicians or Singers? If not do you know any Hardcore Prince Fan Musician?

I'm thinking about doing a International Prince Tribute. Check out this make shift Prince International Tribute, haha Of course they could all be from somewhere else. lol

  1. Bass - London
  2. Guitar – Paris
  3. Keys – Rome
  4. Drums – Munich
  5. Keys – Cali
  6. Trombone – Stockholm
  7. Trumpet – Cairo
  8. Tenor Sax – Tel Aviv
  9. Alto Sax – Athens
  10. Other Horn/Multi Instrumentalist – Monte Carlo
  11. Percussionist – Rio de Janiero
  1. Bass - Sydney
  2. Guitar – Caracas
  3. Keys – Barcelona
  4. Drums – Milan
  5. Keys – Tripoli
  6. Trombone – Vienna
  7. Trumpet – Mexico City
  8. Tenor Sax – Beirut
  9. Alto Sax – Berlin
  10. Other Horn/Multi Instrumentalist – Bogota
  11. Percussionist – Sao Paulo
  1. Bass - Casablanca
  2. Guitar – Brussels
  3. Keys – Panama City
  4. Drums – Port Alegre
  5. Keys – Madrid
  6. Trombone – Jerusalem
  7. Trumpet – San Juan
  8. Tenor Sax – Istanbul
  9. Alto Sax – Lima
  10. Other Horn/Multi Instrumentalist – Frankfurt
  11. Percussionist - Amsterdam

biggrin razz lol cool

I can play alto and soprano recorders, drum, and sing falsely, but you didn't include my country no no no!

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Reply #58 posted 08/28/18 9:19am

Astasheiks

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FullLipsDotNose said:

Astasheiks said:

Are any you all Musicians or Singers? If not do you know any Hardcore Prince Fan Musician?

I'm thinking about doing a International Prince Tribute. Check out this make shift Prince International Tribute, haha Of course they could all be from somewhere else. lol

  1. Bass - London
  2. Guitar – Paris
  3. Keys – Rome
  4. Drums – Munich
  5. Keys – Cali
  6. Trombone – Stockholm
  7. Trumpet – Cairo
  8. Tenor Sax – Tel Aviv
  9. Alto Sax – Athens
  10. Other Horn/Multi Instrumentalist – Monte Carlo
  11. Percussionist – Rio de Janiero
  1. Bass - Sydney
  2. Guitar – Caracas
  3. Keys – Barcelona
  4. Drums – Milan
  5. Keys – Tripoli
  6. Trombone – Vienna
  7. Trumpet – Mexico City
  8. Tenor Sax – Beirut
  9. Alto Sax – Berlin
  10. Other Horn/Multi Instrumentalist – Bogota
  11. Percussionist – Sao Paulo
  1. Bass - Casablanca
  2. Guitar – Brussels
  3. Keys – Panama City
  4. Drums – Port Alegre
  5. Keys – Madrid
  6. Trombone – Jerusalem
  7. Trumpet – San Juan
  8. Tenor Sax – Istanbul
  9. Alto Sax – Lima
  10. Other Horn/Multi Instrumentalist – Frankfurt
  11. Percussionist - Amsterdam

biggrin razz lol cool

I can play alto and soprano recorders, drum, and sing falsely, but you didn't include my country no no no!

lol Look at the Top Bolded "Make Shift" meaning just Example Cities. These Musicians could be from Anywhere. razz lol cool prince eye yes wildsign crysball beret

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Reply #59 posted 08/28/18 10:30am

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FullLipsDotNose said:




databank said:


^Also, Wham! was the first Western band ever allowed to play (ans sell records) in China in 1985, but when I asked my university students if they knew who that George Michael dude who had just died was, they all shrugged. MJ is now widely known here (at least by urban young people, I wouldn't bet on the old or the countryside), but I remember coming to China the week after he died in 2009, and all the young Chinese were discovering his music videos online and tripping because they'd just learned that an icon had died, and before that they had no idea who he was: suddenly there was a MJ craze in China


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I actually remember thinking when Prince was alive and I lived in Cambodia or India and Prince was sometimes complaining that he couldn't just go walk in the streets and shop without an escort, like any regular guy, but if he'd come to those countries he could spend days roaming around in the streets and shops and there wouldn't be a soul to recognize him. I'm actually pretty stunned it didn't occur to him (and other stars) to do that.



I don't know how old your students were, but there is a difference between knowing about someone and being crazy about them. In 00s, people usually thought that MJ was an irrelevant freak, but when he died, everyone was suddenly into him and new, younger fans emerged.


-


By the way, my sister didn't know who Prince was when I asked her biggrin



My students are about 20. Exposure to Western pop culture is quite recent in China. Only about 30 Western films are allowed in theaters every year, but of course the internet changed a lot of things. It's hard to evaluate: like I once told my students they (urban upper-middle class, English speaking, educated) may have more cultural references in common with a Western kid than with a kid from a remote Chinese village, but I'm not sure to which extent this is true.


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This being said I knew a French girl who was 20 ten years ago and she had never heard of Prince. She was born in 1987 so by the time she got into music, Prince was quite out of the picture (and she wasn't into R&B at all anyway).


I dunno... My guess is that traditional Chinese culture is still part of them. Maybe even more than they realize. I mean, that civilization is something like 5000 years old. Even with communism and capitalism taking over in recent years, that's still only 100 years in a civilization that goes back so far. The only other civilization that I can think of that goes back that far is India. Ancient Egypt was taken over by christianity and islam and doesn't exist anymore. Ancient America was taken over by christianity. So your students have 5000 years of traditionalism and Taoism and Confusianism behind them (once again: even if they don't always realize it themselves.) That's one hell of a cultural heritage and I'm not sure if Lady Gaga is enough to break through that.
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