I'll be interested to see what the sales for this will be by the general buyers... Prince 4EVER sold modest, it went Gold in U.K. with over 100,000 sales... PR DELUXE also sold modest, didn't sell great but didn't sell bad either...
With this release I have a feeling it really will not do great at all in the charts... | |
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feeluupp said: I'll be interested to see what the sales for this will be by the general buyers... Prince 4EVER sold modest, it went Gold in U.K. with over 100,000 sales... PR DELUXE also sold modest, didn't sell great but didn't sell bad either...
With this release I have a feeling it really will not do great at all in the charts... I'm not sure who the Estate thinks the target audience is for this release, but the fragmentary and incomplete nature of the material likely prohibits many commercial sales. Just how interested is the average casual listener going to be in Prince reciting the same verse over and over in different tones and registers as he works out a song? | |
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That's why I'm really baffled by this obscure release... Do they not expect it to make a profit? | |
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Well... maybe the goal isn't to sell albums at all. Everything is about streams now, so releasing this might be just to get a ton of streams. Curious people will listen.
And sure, they'll sell a few albums, but the numbers don't matter because it barely cost them anything to make anyway. It's just a big ole free commercial, no? A peek inside a notoriously private star. A release intended to be marketing for future music, rather than music itself. [Edited 9/17/18 18:51pm] And the MUSIC continues...forever... | |
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. I really don't get why this is a surprise to people. The promo has been clear from the beginning that only the deluxe would get the extended booklet. © Bart Van Hemelen
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That's why I'm really baffled by this obscure release... Do they not expect it to make a profit? It cost nothing to master, nothing to make, nothing to promote. | |
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. I really don't get why this is a surprise to people. The promo has been clear from the beginning that only the deluxe would get the extended booklet. The promo? What promo? This is a surprise because, considering the Price it is sold, compares to the cheap Price it cost them to produce, à 12 page booklet with 50 lines on it was already à thievery. . So à 3 page booklet lol is beyond anything. You would tell me, it Can t be worst than AOA which has the worst packaging ever. Thèse are just incitations to download. | |
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. I dunno, the kazilliona rticles when this was announced? https://www.rollingstone....83-629886/ .
. Oh look, as announced on 7 June. © Bart Van Hemelen
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The Star Tribune reports on the upcoming listening party at Paisley Park: http://www.startribune.co...493515811/ .
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A fairly long review from Kleine Zeitung, the largest regional newspaper in Austria):: https://www.kleinezeitung...e-von-1983 .
. Rough translation, courtesy of Google Translate: .
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The fact they left out the booklet from the standard edition is a disgrace. I have no need for the CD, the vinyl is already fairly highly priced for one disc. As an archival release a detailed booklet should be standard. | |
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The fact the estate is releasing this is a disgrace... Why could'nt they have made a huge box set and include this as a bonus like the Bowie estate has been doing... But no release a poor quality boot that's been around for over 20 years and don't even include a proper booklet in the cd version.
When this release really bombs on the charts what next... I bet they will release Box O' Chocolates for the next one | |
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AP (The Associated Press) article by Jeff Baenen, available through numerous sources, including https://www.reviewjournal...-basement/ . Here are some excerpts: .
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Review in Nettavisen, a Norwegian publication: https://www.nettavisen.no...37923.html . Google Translate says (I'm only including the actual review part: .
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Review (in German) by SüdTirol News: https://www.suedtirolnews...-als-album Well, more of an article than a review. It also might be sourced from a press agency, since at the bottom there is a credit to APA / DPA. .
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I have an update on ordering the 7 inch from Rolling Stone Germany from anotehr country.
So a few weeeks ago I tried to order the 7 inch online. The entire website is in German so I kinda didn't know what I was doing but tried my best with Google Translate. It turns out I couldn't give a credit card over the internet but I would have to make a wire transfer once they sent me an invoice. They sent me an invoice via email but it's hella confusing so I didn't bother. Somewhere in the process I may have tried a second time to order but I also added the Bruce Springsteen 7 inch, David Bowie 7 inch and the SOTT dvd. Then I recieved another email saying that RS Germany could not fulfill the order because it's illigal to send the magazine to any country other than Germany, Austria and Switzerland. So then I really abandoned it. Needless to say, I still haven't paid for anything at this point.
Cut to this week and I get a notice to come to the post office and collect some stuff from Germany and lo and behold, I have three German Rolling Stone magazines with the two cover mount 7 inchs and SOTT dvd but no 17 Days 7 inch. Had to pay customs duty on the cover mounts however. I suspect (and HOPE) I will get a duplicate order soon with the 17 Days 7 inch included.
Just thought I'd update you guys on that.
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The fact the estate is releasing this is a disgrace... Why could'nt they have made a huge box set and include this as a bonus like the Bowie estate has been doing... But no release a poor quality boot that's been around for over 20 years and don't even include a proper booklet in the cd version.
When this release really bombs on the charts what next... I bet they will release Box O' Chocolates for the next one Can t you talk about anything but the charts? | |
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Billboard review: https://www.billboard.com...1983-album -- ah, scrap that, it's jus a reprint of the AP article/review listed above [Edited 9/18/18 23:27pm] © Bart Van Hemelen
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Review in Télérama (in French) by Laurent Rigoulet: https://www.telerama.fr/m...811934.php . Google Translate gives this: .
. I think there's a rating at the top: the four "f"-like characters, followed by "On aime passionnément" ("We love passionately"). © Bart Van Hemelen
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Review in Belgian weekly magazine Humo (in Dutch) by Serge Simonart (who's always been a massive Prince fan and has interviewed him): https://www.humo.be/cd-re...microphone . 4/5 .
. Google translate: .
. As per usual, it cannot be a Serge Simonart article about Prince without some major BS (example: he complained in the review for D&P or that Prince had never released "Still Would Stand All Time", which is on Graffiti Bridge, which he had actually reviewed): .
. Yeah sure, buddy, this recording has been available on numerous bootlegs for decades. © Bart Van Hemelen
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Thx Bart for posting all the reviews, keep up the good work! . As I anticipated, we're getting positive to rave reviews. Let's see what happens as they'll keep coming but I doubt there will be many, if any, negative reviews. Those reviews comfort me in thinking that the Estate made the right decision by releasing this: while some fans dream of a release that could rival the popular success of the likes of Bruno Mars or Kendrick Lamar, there's no such thing in the vault and it was a smarter move to target critics as well as an older, more sophisticated audience in order to establish Prince as a serious musician as opposed to a mere entertainer. . I have no doubt that this record will meet its audience. A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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I Always complained about the fact that reviews for CD or dvd, etc. Never reviewed the actual production, manufacturing, etc, in addition of the artistic content. The ridiculous packaging of the Simple édition, the lack of a booklet and printed lyrics, and the redondance of the deluxe édition (the same album divided on 3 or 4 discs) need to be adressed. Thèse things are not to neglect, or else there is no point in buying the physical format. | |
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I've actually come around to the idea that this is a decent enough choice for casuals to get a glimps of what've had for decades & likewsie for us to have it in better sound & with decent packaging.
Overall since P's passing the output is building steadily with: P.Rain deluxe Nothing Compares 2 U single & Video Anthology [even though it was sequenced by a 5 yr old!] Piano & Microphone 1983 + New Tidal album due Jan 2019
Not bad BUT obviously a mountain yet to be unleashed. [Edited 9/19/18 6:45am] | |
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Surprised its not leaked yet. The official release i mean. Maybe the demand just aint there. | |
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Leaks are not really related to demand. Those leaking sites put everything they can put their hands on without thinking much about what it is (I guess they make dough out of ads, I'm not sure why else they'd go thru the hassle of uploading 15 albums a day and risking severe legal backlash). Then as soon as something's out regular folks share the stuff on P2P networks. P&AM83 will be available illegally within days now. [Edited 9/19/18 7:12am] A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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UK music monthly Classic Rock, issue 254, October 2018: .
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. Oh look, more made up nonsense. Amazing how you guys take the announcement "will be released in 2019" and immediately morph this into "that's obviously going to be 1 January 2019 at one minute past midnight". . Go on, try to find one source that pinpoints that release down to a month. Hell, if you read https://variety.com/2018/...202807371/ even 2019 is tentative. . STICK. TO. THE. FACTS. © Bart Van Hemelen
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Article/review in Twin Cities / Pioneer Press: https://www.twincities.co...superstar/ . © Bart Van Hemelen
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"A guide to every track" on The Boombox: http://theboombox.com/pri...983-songs/ . © Bart Van Hemelen
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