precioux said:

PennyPurple said:

You know I would, but here's the deal. People ask questions or where such and such is located at, what zipfile, etc. and I answer them and try to provide the file and such so they can read them. But then I get attacked, and people say things like I like to post to stroke my ego, etc. etc. So I think I'll pass on saying much more. Sorry if the link doesn't work, I don't know how to fix it.

link works fine for me....as always, thanks for posting

Ahhh, I see it must've just been somebody who wanted me to do their homework for them again, then get pissy when I answer and say I'm stroking my ego.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

PennyPurple said:

You know I would, but here's the deal. People ask questions or where such and such is located at, what zipfile, etc. and I answer them and try to provide the file and such so they can read them. But then I get attacked, and people say things like I like to post to stroke my ego, etc. etc. So I think I'll pass on saying much more. Sorry if the link doesn't work, I don't know how to fix it.

Oh Penny, I am proud to be the first to say your dedication, smarts and energy have been BEYOND VALUABLE on Prince.Org because you are SO OBVIOUSLY motivated by TRUE LOVE for Prince, his grieving fans and the quest for the truth as to why we lost him too soon and why a universally loved human being/genius/angel felt so alone and confused at the end. I am deeply grateful for all your generosity of time and effort. Much Love, don't despair...

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Oh stop.

PennyPurple said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Oh Penny, I am proud to be the first to say your dedication, smarts and energy have been BEYOND VALUABLE on Prince.Org because you are SO OBVIOUSLY motivated by TRUE LOVE for Prince, his grieving fans and the quest for the truth as to why we lost him too soon and why a universally loved human being/genius/angel felt so alone and confused at the end. I am deeply grateful for all your generosity of time and effort. Much Love, don't despair...

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Oh stop.

OMG, NOW what did I do???

PennyPurple said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

PennyPurple said:

You know I would, but here's the deal. People ask questions or where such and such is located at, what zipfile, etc. and I answer them and try to provide the file and such so they can read them. But then I get attacked, and people say things like I like to post to stroke my ego, etc. etc. So I think I'll pass on saying much more. Sorry if the link doesn't work, I don't know how to fix it.

Oh Penny, I am proud to be the first to say your dedication, smarts and energy have been BEYOND VALUABLE on Prince.Org because you are SO OBVIOUSLY motivated by TRUE LOVE for Prince, his grieving fans and the quest for the truth as to why we lost him too soon and why a universally loved human being/genius/angel felt so alone and confused at the end. I am deeply grateful for all your generosity of time and effort. Much Love, don't despair...

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PennyPurple said:

peggyon said:

precioux said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Camileyun said:

Kiran S. mentioned that P was essentially a bit of a penny pincher, but that he could also be very generous. She said he would donate a large amount of money, but would want to hold a press conference to let everyone know. I don't recall him doing that, rather I thought he liked to remain anonymous.

Yep..I also though that was very strange..She is the only person in my recollection who ever referred to him as penny pincher...

neither do I recall him holding any press conferences to bring attention to his generosity.

Everyone else in his circle says the exact opposite even to the extent of him OVERPAYING.

Two people come to Mind...Elisa Fiorello and Sharon Jones have both said he paid more than they asked or were expecting..

Hmmmm..

Lovejunky said:

Camileyun said:

Kiran S. mentioned that P was essentially a bit of a penny pincher, but that he could also be very generous. She said he would donate a large amount of money, but would want to hold a press conference to let everyone know. I don't recall him doing that, rather I thought he liked to remain anonymous.

Yep..I also though that was very strange..She is the only person in my recollection who ever referred to him as penny pincher...

neither do I recall him holding any press conferences to bring attention to his generosity.

Everyone else in his circle says the exact opposite even to the extent of him OVERPAYING.

Two people come to Mind...Elisa Fiorello and Sharon Jones have both said he paid more than they asked or were expecting..

Hmmmm..

I think he paid folks more generously as he got older. Remember, though,how little he paid Vanity, Morris and others in his earlier years? He was also notorious for not paying his property taxes and there were issues with vendors, (some mom & pop) not being paid. There were quite a few folks who had trouble with Prince paying them. I would say he was selectively generous.

I think Kiran said, he wanted to have his generosity brought up if it was a donation of 1 million plus. It could be brought up subtly. It wasn't a press conference.

I am not sure I trust Kiran's sincerity entirely. . Anyone working for P in the years she worked for him couldn't say with a straight face that they didn't know and then claim to know what others later were up to. I am not saying she hated Prince. Her facebook page has some nice stories but I think she probably knew he was taking more than Vitamin B12 at those doctors' appointments she set up. Maybe there is some guilt on her part or some self-interest in making herself look clean compared to the people who worked for Prince when he died. Its funny how she thinks folks should be arrested but now promotes NPG (which has a drummer named Kirk Johnson--Omar is similarly inconsistent where Kirk is concerned. He badmouthed him in the reports but resently gave a shout out to him on his facebook or twitter page when KAJ (as he called him) performed at Paisley recently). I don't know maybe Kirk patched things up with both of them by explaining the circumstances..and that's why they are nicer publically.

Kiran worked mostly out of Turks and Caicos and Europe when she worked for P. But if she set up appointments on the road, she either ignored why he was going to them or she is just lying..(B12 injections, please.) Plus, her crack about 1 million dollars contributions being something he would want attention for sounds like her way of discrediting his contributions to Phaedra, Van and their charities (by way of cherry picking) . Maybe she is right and he was taken advantage of. But Prince was upfront in the public about his support of Van's charities. He was supportive of his endeavors. He did an interview in 2011 on the View with Van talking about the very issues Van Supported. Plus he did give quietly. Kim Berry said he gave millions away to families whose family members died at that bridge collapse. The reality seems to be that Prince was inconsistent with his money..sometimes generous, sometimes cheap (especially where taxes and promoters were concerned) , sometimes paid well (too well in some cases), sometimes underpaid (relatively speaking.), sometimes quiet with his contributions to folks (like old musicians in hospitals with medical bills), sometimes wanting people to know what he did. He did get some attention for that school he gave a million to..(when he did a press conference for Welcome to America, he had the dean of that school do a speech at the conference. Kiran might have been involved in setting that up.. ) So, sometimes of course he wanted attention..a million dollars is not chump change. But numerous smaller contributions were not given attention. She is cherry picking the tidbits of info about P that discredit the employees that came after her. Also, she was one of the folks who said that Prince never carried his own stuff, but in 2011 there is a picture of him carrying his own little carry-on/toiletry bag walking next to Andy. Either Kiran's knowledge was limited or she is chosing to ignore the fact that there was a certain (now suspicious) bag he did indeed carry on his own during her time with him. He had to have taken out petty cash when she worked for him. Maybe she just didn't bother to ask (because its his money) but in the reports she has Phaedra telling her about petty cash requests from P. She also said the only time he did anything suspicious drugs wise when she was around was that naked incident in 2007. But the incident happened in 2010..three years after she had been working for him. I can't chuck that up to just having bad memory because she stated that she had just started working for him. Right. I think people are in denial about the subtle ways they may have been complicit or at least blind to the red flags. I do think she wanted to help find out what happened to P at the end of his life (thus the reason for her providing numerous contacts for the police to talk to) , but she wanted to do so while coming off squeaky clean and casting blame on others. Seeing as he was alive when she left his employment, she had that advantage.

peggyon said:

Lovejunky said:

Yep..I also though that was very strange..She is the only person in my recollection who ever referred to him as penny pincher...

neither do I recall him holding any press conferences to bring attention to his generosity.

Everyone else in his circle says the exact opposite even to the extent of him OVERPAYING.

Two people come to Mind...Elisa Fiorello and Sharon Jones have both said he paid more than they asked or were expecting..

Hmmmm..

I think he paid folks more generously as he got older. Remember, though,how little he paid Vanity, Morris and others in his earlier years? He was also notorious for not paying his property taxes and there were issues with vendors, (some mom & pop) not being paid. There were quite a few folks who had trouble with Prince paying them. I would say he was selectively generous.

I think Kiran said, he wanted to have his generosity brought up if it was a donation of 1 million plus. It could be brought up subtly. It wasn't a press conference.

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Those of us of a certain age remember the comments about the injections "Dr. Feelgood" used to give President Kennedy - and others around him. They weren't B12 injections - they were amphetamines. So, I agree that Kiran looked the other way when Prince was getting whatever was in his injections. But I never remember him asking for any type of plaque or accolade for his philanthropy. And he spent money like water in the early days. Understanding that there were limited resources in the last 10 years of his life, and not knowing how much he had saved over the years, it is undestandable that he might have scrimped on some things (maintaining PP) and put the money elsewhere (into social programs). But if we think he was going downhill starting about 2011, then Andy Allo is the one who might have answers; she was with him until 2013, right? That's before the time he allegedly told Tyka he was done, IIRC?

1Sasha said:

Those of us of a certain age remember the comments about the injections "Dr. Feelgood" used to give President Kennedy - and others around him. They weren't B12 injections - they were amphetamines. So, I agree that Kiran looked the other way when Prince was getting whatever was in his injections. But I never remember him asking for any type of plaque or accolade for his philanthropy. And he spent money like water in the early days. Understanding that there were limited resources in the last 10 years of his life, and not knowing how much he had saved over the years, it is undestandable that he might have scrimped on some things (maintaining PP) and put the money elsewhere (into social programs). But if we think he was going downhill starting about 2011, then Andy Allo is the one who might have answers; she was with him until 2013, right? That's before the time he allegedly told Tyka he was done, IIRC?

I read that JFK received a "B-12" injection before his first meeting with Kruschev. Also, he and Jackie both got the injections before the Inaugural Ball.

Yes, unfortunately, I also believe P's "B-12" injections were likely amphetamines. His poor band, how did they keep up with the soundchecks, shows and after-shows? I don't recall them getting B-12 injections.

Andy Allo was so young and she has kept alot of information to herself. I admire her poise and respect for their private experience.

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peggyon said:

1Sasha said:

Those of us of a certain age remember the comments about the injections "Dr. Feelgood" used to give President Kennedy - and others around him. They weren't B12 injections - they were amphetamines. So, I agree that Kiran looked the other way when Prince was getting whatever was in his injections. But I never remember him asking for any type of plaque or accolade for his philanthropy. And he spent money like water in the early days. Understanding that there were limited resources in the last 10 years of his life, and not knowing how much he had saved over the years, it is undestandable that he might have scrimped on some things (maintaining PP) and put the money elsewhere (into social programs). But if we think he was going downhill starting about 2011, then Andy Allo is the one who might have answers; she was with him until 2013, right? That's before the time he allegedly told Tyka he was done, IIRC?

I read that JFK received a "B-12" injection before his first meeting with Kruschev. Also, he and Jackie both got the injections before the Inaugural Ball.

Yes, unfortunately, I also believe P's "B-12" injections were likely amphetamines. His poor band, how did they keep up with the soundchecks, shows and after-shows? I don't recall them getting B-12 injections.

Andy Allo was so young and she has kept alot of information to herself. I admire her poise and respect for their private experience.

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He and Mayte got B-12 shots on tour.

CatB said:

muchtoofast said:

CatB said:

He and Mayte got B-12 shots on tour.

Ladies and gents we are now IN the swamp of hearsay resentment and jealousy.

No. This is what Mayte herself told in her book

ThatWhiteDude said:

muchtoofast said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

No. This is what Mayte herself told in her book

But it was brought up in the context of the B12 shots reeeealy being an amphetamine shot, the comment was not made in a vacuum.

excellent observaton...

onlyforaminute said:

muchtoofast said:

No one here would put up with this kind of comment from Phaedra or Tyka or Kirk or Lonnie or Meron or anyone else. Some are putting up with these comments solely because this person claims to have had sex with him, there’s no other reason she’s getting this kind of pass. She sits back and slams the Big Bad Wife every chance she gets.

excellent observation

muchtoofast said:

How about I just tell you how he was in bed?? He had a penis and he somehow figured out where to put it!

Trust. I. am. not. the. one. for. all that. foolishness. But as my screenname said, I'm only here for a minute. I said what I've had to say. Graze on. Graze on.

ThatWhiteDude said:

No. This is what Mayte herself told in her book

Yes it was in her book.

PennyPurple said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

No. This is what Mayte herself told in her book

Yes it was in her book.

Exactly and Cat only stated it here. Some people here read too much into her comment when all she did was stating a thing that's even mentioned in Mayte's book, Cat didn't even say that it was something else...... I don't get all the hate here.

ThatWhiteDude said:

PennyPurple said:

Yes it was in her book.

Exactly and Cat only stated it here. Some people here read too much into her comment when all she did was stating a thing that's even mentioned in Mayte's book, Cat didn't even say that it was something else...... I don't get all the hate here.

They are just trolls. Trolls tryin to get a thread shut down. They have provided nothing to the discussion that has any merit.