Reply #1620 posted 08/07/18 9:32am
PennyPurple |
OperatingThetan said:
Nothing to do with inflation at all. He still earned way more even if you view the figures relatively. Prince spoke at length about this at the time. He made the Forbes list for highest grossers the same year. However facetious you wish to be the facts still remain. And you are yet another account with a join date after Prince's death who posts exclusively on death investigation threads and defends the central narrative being promoted here. It is transparent enough to fool all but a village idiot.
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Reply #1621 posted 08/07/18 10:18am
Camileyun |
PennyPurple said:
Camileyun said:
It is interesting to note that body temp. at death can be influenced by several factors such as clothing and the surrounding room temperature. The LE noted it was uncomfortably warm in PP, with several space heaters on. Warmer temps. slow the rigor process. Did someone crank up the heat to purposely skew the time of death...to make it appear it happened later than it did? Could KJ and Meron have been there when P died (they talked about watching him in shifts, then both left?)? Again, I don't believe we have KJs phone records from that night...you know he'd be calling Phaedra. Did anyone actually see Meron's instagram where she is crying? [Edited 8/7/18 8:54am]
I do not believe that anybody turned up the heat to skew the time of death. There were space heaters in several different rooms, and as skinny as Prince was, and April in Minnie it was probably chilly out and PP is a huge place and probably chilly in there.
We do have the phone records.
Do you know where I can find them? I know they discuss the subpoena for the records on pg. 77, cell tower dump on pg.112, and calls made in the morning of 4/21 on pg.170. What I cannot find are records of phone calls made 4/20.(the subpoena time frame was 3/23 through 4/21). [Edited 8/7/18 10:32am] |
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Reply #1622 posted 08/07/18 10:21am
Camileyun |
OperatingThetan said: paulludvig said:
Let's not turn this into a math problem. There is no denying that the Muicology Tour was hugely successful. His recidencies too. The Super Bowl, anyone? He made it back to the top as an independent artist. At the time of his passing he was a bonafide legend, universally respected.
Agreed. Prince made it very clear he earned more for the Musicology tour than the Purple Rain tour 20 years earlier and was obviously accounting for inflation. He was earning more as an independent artist and the tour was one of the most successful of his career. These are basic facts and Prince's return to prominence is popularly acknowledged. If it's being denied here it's either because the posters lack awareness of Prince's life and career or that it's being ignored because it doesn't fit the narrative. |
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Reply #1623 posted 08/07/18 10:40am
Camileyun |
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
Camileyun said: 1Sasha said:
I am not a medical professional, but if a team of doctors tried to bring him back, would there not be evidence of such action? NARCAN injection site, bruises perhaps. Also, can't how long a person has been deceased be approximately determined by body temperature if the person is found within hours of death? Just asking.
It is interesting to note that body temp. at death can be influenced by several factors such as clothing and the surrounding room temperature. The LE noted it was uncomfortably warm in PP, with several space heaters on. Warmer temps. slow the rigor process. Did someone crank up the heat to purposely skew the time of death...to make it appear it happened later than it did. Could KJ and Meron have been there when P died (they talked about watching him in shifts, then both left?)? Again, I don't believe we have KJs phone records from that night...you know he'd be calling Phaedra. Did anyone actually see Meron's instagram where she is crying?
If you read the investigative file you would know we have both Kirk and Meron's phone records.
I saw Meron's IG and I dont believe it was the night before he died, and I didnt hear her crying I only heard her singing in her native tongue.
Do you know where to find the phone records for 4/20? |
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Reply #1624 posted 08/07/18 11:02am
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mattj said:
Nola said:
I can still see it at www.crazydaysandnights.net under the link I posted earlier. I can't seem to paste a screenshot. You just have to scroll down and you'll see the links to the various blind items on the left - this one is called Blind Item #7 - Birdie Blind Item (I have no idea what that means). It was posted on Sunday, August 5th - not today as I previously thought.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45083167
The number of deaths in England and Wales due to the synthetic opioid fentanyl rose by 29% in 2017, Office for National Statistics data shows.
brought it all home reading this
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Reply #1625 posted 08/07/18 11:05am
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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
Camileyun said:
1Sasha said: It is interesting to note that body temp. at death can be influenced by several factors such as clothing and the surrounding room temperature. The LE noted it was uncomfortably warm in PP, with several space heaters on. Warmer temps. slow the rigor process. Did someone crank up the heat to purposely skew the time of death...to make it appear it happened later than it did. Could KJ and Meron have been there when P died (they talked about watching him in shifts, then both left?)? Again, I don't believe we have KJs phone records from that night...you know he'd be calling Phaedra. Did anyone actually see Meron's instagram where she is crying?
If you read the investigative file you would know we have both Kirk and Meron's phone records.
I saw Meron's IG and I dont believe it was the night before he died, and I didnt hear her crying I only heard her singing in her native tongue.
Well, you know Laura. She's pissed, everybody gets the mallet. I doubt she meant literal crying. But you know that will be the only focus point, so enjoy.
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Reply #1626 posted 08/07/18 11:43am
precioux |
onlyforaminute said:
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
If you read the investigative file you would know we have both Kirk and Meron's phone records.
I saw Meron's IG and I dont believe it was the night before he died, and I didnt hear her crying I only heard her singing in her native tongue.
Well, you know Laura. She's pissed, everybody gets the mallet. I doubt she meant literal crying. But you know that will be the only focus point, so enjoy.
No, she meant crying as in wailing crying. That's what took her aback because it was the day BEFORE he died, and it didn't make sense. I will look for her postings |
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Reply #1627 posted 08/07/18 11:46am
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precioux said:
onlyforaminute said:
Well, you know Laura. She's pissed, everybody gets the mallet. I doubt she meant literal crying. But you know that will be the only focus point, so enjoy.
No, she meant crying as in wailing crying. That's what took her aback because it was the day BEFORE he died, and it didn't make sense. I will look for her postings
Well she's not here to say what she meant so, I don't know whatcha gonna do, debate it for a page or 2?
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Reply #1628 posted 08/07/18 11:50am
precioux |
onlyforaminute said:
precioux said:
No, she meant crying as in wailing crying. That's what took her aback because it was the day BEFORE he died, and it didn't make sense. I will look for her postings
Well she's not here to say what she meant so, I don't know whatcha gonna do, debate it for a page or 2?
you can do as I just did, smartass and look it up for yourself...you know, the search button in the top right corner? The very 1st hit was verbatim what I said (Prince death investigation discussion-part 10, reply #186). Go read, then research some more, I cited what I said- do your own homework.
ETA: LR's actual post was on 9/29/17 reply#285 on the 'bad chronic pain since when' thread, in which she stated she saw a video of Meron crying on social media dated the night before (4/20)and it appeared that Meron was in her car. [Edited 8/7/18 12:03pm] |
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Reply #1629 posted 08/07/18 12:12pm
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precioux said:
onlyforaminute said:
Well she's not here to say what she meant so, I don't know whatcha gonna do, debate it for a page or 2?
you can do as I just did, smartass and look it up for yourself...you know, the search button in the top right corner? The very 1st hit was verbatim what I said (Prince death investigation discussion-part 10, reply #186). Go read, then research some more, I cited what I said- do your own homework.
ETA: LR's actual post was on 9/29/17 reply#285 on the 'bad chronic pain since when' thread, in which she stated she saw a video of Meron crying on social media dated the night before (4/20)and it appeared that Meron was in her car.
[Edited 8/7/18 12:03pm]
I am not going to research if Laura was wrong about Meron crying. Like how important is that in my day? I already know Laura's motivation for her isms, what's yours?
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Reply #1630 posted 08/07/18 12:13pm
muchtoofast |
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
The elements for wrongful death are:
1) Duty
2) Breach of Duty 3) Causation 4) Damages
The Family will need to show the hospital had a duty to Prince to send out the pills for a chemical analysis; the hospital breached that duty to Prince by failing to do so; and as a result the breach of duty the hospital caused Prince's death.
The most difficult element to prove is causation. This is a civil case so the Family wont need to get an unamimous jury verdict.
Also, because it is a civil case the burden of proof is "preponderance of evidence." The proof only needs to be 51%
Both sides have something to talk about so I think the case will eventually be settled. She did state the pharmacy did what they usually do, identify it by markings and not a chemical analysis. I bet she didn’t believe him when he said he took only one and I bet no one else would have either. |
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Reply #1631 posted 08/07/18 12:17pm
Camileyun |
Camileyun said: PennyPurple said:
Camileyun said:
It is interesting to note that body temp. at death can be influenced by several factors such as clothing and the surrounding room temperature. The LE noted it was uncomfortably warm in PP, with several space heaters on. Warmer temps. slow the rigor process. Did someone crank up the heat to purposely skew the time of death...to make it appear it happened later than it did? Could KJ and Meron have been there when P died (they talked about watching him in shifts, then both left?)? Again, I don't believe we have KJs phone records from that night...you know he'd be calling Phaedra. Did anyone actually see Meron's instagram where she is crying? [Edited 8/7/18 8:54am]
I do not believe that anybody turned up the heat to skew the time of death. There were space heaters in several different rooms, and as skinny as Prince was, and April in Minnie it was probably chilly out and PP is a huge place and probably chilly in there. We do have the phone records.
Do you know where I can find them? I know they discuss the subpoena for the records on pg. 77, cell tower dump on pg.112, and calls made in the morning of 4/21 on pg.170. What I cannot find are records of phone calls made 4/20.(the subpoena time frame was 3/23 through 4/21). [Edited 8/7/18 10:32am]I forgot to mention pg. 155, only info.about 4/21. |
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Reply #1632 posted 08/07/18 12:19pm
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muchtoofast said:
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
The elements for wrongful death are:
1) Duty
2) Breach of Duty
3) Causation
4) Damages
The Family will need to show the hospital had a duty to Prince to send out the pills for a chemical analysis; the hospital breached that duty to Prince by failing to do so; and as a result the breach of duty the hospital caused Prince's death.
The most difficult element to prove is causation.
This is a civil case so the Family wont need to get an unamimous jury verdict.
Also, because it is a civil case the burden of proof is "preponderance of evidence."
The proof only needs to be 51%
Both sides have something to talk about so I think the case will eventually be settled.
She did state the pharmacy did what they usually do, identify it by markings and not a chemical analysis. I bet she didn’t believe him when he said he took only one and I bet no one else would have either.
Seems I read in the reports he admitted to more than one or 2, seems like 3 of one med, and 1 pill of another, so that's 4 pills. Having absolutely no medical expertise it meant nothing to me so it isn't going to stick well. Personally, I can see why they wouldn't want to fully analyze the pill of a major popstar, then they'd be obligated to report it if they found something hinky. Why open that can of worms.
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Reply #1633 posted 08/07/18 12:20pm
Camileyun |
Camileyun said: ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
Camileyun said: 1Sasha said:
I am not a medical professional, but if a team of doctors tried to bring him back, would there not be evidence of such action? NARCAN injection site, bruises perhaps. Also, can't how long a person has been deceased be approximately determined by body temperature if the person is found within hours of death? Just asking.
It is interesting to note that body temp. at death can be influenced by several factors such as clothing and the surrounding room temperature. The LE noted it was uncomfortably warm in PP, with several space heaters on. Warmer temps. slow the rigor process. Did someone crank up the heat to purposely skew the time of death...to make it appear it happened later than it did. Could KJ and Meron have been there when P died (they talked about watching him in shifts, then both left?)? Again, I don't believe we have KJs phone records from that night...you know he'd be calling Phaedra. Did anyone actually see Meron's instagram where she is crying?
If you read the investigative file you would know we have both Kirk and Meron's phone records.
I saw Meron's IG and I dont believe it was the night before he died, and I didnt hear her crying I only heard her singing in her native tongue.
Do you know where to find the phone records for 4/20? Pretty sure the answer is "no". And I have read the investigative file. |
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Reply #1634 posted 08/07/18 12:22pm
precioux |
onlyforaminute said:
precioux said:
you can do as I just did, smartass and look it up for yourself...you know, the search button in the top right corner? The very 1st hit was verbatim what I said (Prince death investigation discussion-part 10, reply #186). Go read, then research some more, I cited what I said- do your own homework.
ETA: LR's actual post was on 9/29/17 reply#285 on the 'bad chronic pain since when' thread, in which she stated she saw a video of Meron crying on social media dated the night before (4/20)and it appeared that Meron was in her car.
[Edited 8/7/18 12:03pm]
I am not going to research if Laura was wrong about Meron crying. Like how important is that in my day? I already know Laura's motivation for her isms, what's yours?
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Reply #1635 posted 08/07/18 12:23pm
onlyforaminute
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precioux said:
onlyforaminute said:
I am not going to research if Laura was wrong about Meron crying. Like how important is that in my day? I already know Laura's motivation for her isms, what's yours?
Thank you.
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Reply #1636 posted 08/07/18 12:31pm
muchtoofast |
onlyforaminute said:
muchtoofast said: ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
The elements for wrongful death are:
1) Duty
2) Breach of Duty
3) Causation
4) Damages
The Family will need to show the hospital had a duty to Prince to send out the pills for a chemical analysis; the hospital breached that duty to Prince by failing to do so; and as a result the breach of duty the hospital caused Prince's death.
The most difficult element to prove is causation.
This is a civil case so the Family wont need to get an unamimous jury verdict.
Also, because it is a civil case the burden of proof is "preponderance of evidence."
The proof only needs to be 51%
Both sides have something to talk about so I think the case will eventually be settled.
She did state the pharmacy did what they usually do, identify it by markings and not a chemical analysis. I bet she didn’t believe him when he said he took only one and I bet no one else would have either.
Seems I read in the reports he admitted to more than one or 2, seems like 3 of one med, and 1 pill of another, so that's 4 pills. Having absolutely no medical expertise it meant nothing to me so it isn't going to stick well. Personally, I can see why they wouldn't want to fully analyze the pill of a major popstar, then they'd be obligated to report it if they found something hinky. Why open that can of worms.
And it was around 1 in the morning so they didn’t have a full staff, and does the pharmacist test pills or do they get sent somewhere else for analysis? And back then did they have fentanyl test strips in every pharmacy like they probably do now? We will definitely learn some general things from this lawsuit. |
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Reply #1637 posted 08/07/18 12:33pm
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muchtoofast said:
onlyforaminute said:
Seems I read in the reports he admitted to more than one or 2, seems like 3 of one med, and 1 pill of another, so that's 4 pills. Having absolutely no medical expertise it meant nothing to me so it isn't going to stick well. Personally, I can see why they wouldn't want to fully analyze the pill of a major popstar, then they'd be obligated to report it if they found something hinky. Why open that can of worms.
And it was around 1 in the morning so they didn’t have a full staff, and does the pharmacist test pills or do they get sent somewhere else for analysis? And back then did they have fentanyl test strips in every pharmacy like they probably do now? We will definitely learn some general things from this lawsuit.
Maybe, I'm just laying my view on the table. It could have been any number of things. I'm interested in what going to come out. But I'm scared for the hospital if they lose.
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Reply #1638 posted 08/07/18 12:41pm
precioux |
onlyforaminute said:
precioux said:
Thank you.
my pleasure |
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Reply #1639 posted 08/07/18 12:47pm
muchtoofast |
onlyforaminute said:
muchtoofast said: onlyforaminute said:
Seems I read in the reports he admitted to more than one or 2, seems like 3 of one med, and 1 pill of another, so that's 4 pills. Having absolutely no medical expertise it meant nothing to me so it isn't going to stick well. Personally, I can see why they wouldn't want to fully analyze the pill of a major popstar, then they'd be obligated to report it if they found something hinky. Why open that can of worms.
And it was around 1 in the morning so they didn’t have a full staff, and does the pharmacist test pills or do they get sent somewhere else for analysis? And back then did they have fentanyl test strips in every pharmacy like they probably do now? We will definitely learn some general things from this lawsuit.
Maybe, I'm just laying my view on the table. It could have been any number of things. I'm interested in what going to come out. But I'm scared for the hospital if they lose.
Me too, I don’t think it would be fair if they lose. |
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Reply #1640 posted 08/07/18 12:48pm
Camileyun |
precioux said:
onlyforaminute said:
precioux said:
you can do as I just did, smartass and look it up for yourself...you know, the search button in the top right corner? The very 1st hit was verbatim what I said (Prince death investigation discussion-part 10, reply #186). Go read, then research some more, I cited what I said- do your own homework.
ETA: LR's actual post was on 9/29/17 reply#285 on the 'bad chronic pain since when' thread, in which she stated she saw a video of Meron crying on social media dated the night before (4/20)and it appeared that Meron was in her car.
[Edited 8/7/18 12:03pm]
I am not going to research if Laura was wrong about Meron crying. Like how important is that in my day? I already know Laura's motivation for her isms, what's yours?
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Reply #1641 posted 08/07/18 12:52pm
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muchtoofast said:
onlyforaminute said:
Maybe, I'm just laying my view on the table. It could have been any number of things. I'm interested in what going to come out. But I'm scared for the hospital if they lose.
Me too, I don’t think it would be fair if they lose.
I don't either, but then again, if they were supposed to follow through and they didn't because of giving him special privledge. The idea of saving someone's life because one follows the rules vs. not following them to save someone's convenience.
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Reply #1642 posted 08/07/18 12:56pm
Reply #1643 posted 08/07/18 12:58pm
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To above someone a while back was asking if Prince really was biking around Chanhassen the weekend before his death. I found this today so I wanted to share 4 that person. |
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Reply #1644 posted 08/07/18 1:03pm
Camileyun |
Krystalkisses said: Wow, sure wasn't hiding, was he? Lots of cars in that lot! (kinda' dangerous, really!) Thank you for that...haven't seen it. |
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Reply #1646 posted 08/07/18 1:16pm
Camileyun |
Krystalkisses said: You're welcome Cami.
And she said he looked really good! [Edited 8/7/18 13:18pm] |
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Reply #1647 posted 08/07/18 1:31pm
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Bodhitheblackdog said:
When the incontrovertable truth of Prince's decline and death comes out, (via publication...not the internet) it will say he was a long-time 'pill man' who (in the sage words of Dr. D) was "majorly addicted" since Purple Rain. Yes, he had periods where he clawed himself up and out of the abyss...but he lived most of his life as an addict and died of an overdose. Period. The music, his gift to us from God, is another thing entirely.
LIES! "That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when was doing the Purple Rain tour had a lot of people who knew 'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream." |
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Reply #1648 posted 08/07/18 1:54pm
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ChocolateBox3121 said:
Bodhitheblackdog said:
When the incontrovertable truth of Prince's decline and death comes out, (via publication...not the internet) it will say he was a long-time 'pill man' who (in the sage words of Dr. D) was "majorly addicted" since Purple Rain. Yes, he had periods where he clawed himself up and out of the abyss...but he lived most of his life as an addict and died of an overdose. Period. The music, his gift to us from God, is another thing entirely.
LIES!
I cosign what Bodhitheblackdog has stated because it is the truth. |
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Reply #1649 posted 08/07/18 3:16pm
PennyPurple |
Camileyun said:
Camileyun said:
Do you know where to find the phone records for 4/20?
Pretty sure the answer is "no". And I have read the investigative file.
Zipfile 5 under telephone records, it has it's own folder. |
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