Reply #1410 posted 08/05/18 7:07pm
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Lovejunky said:
onlyforaminute said:
Lovejunky said:
There is STILL the possibilty that Kirk found him in his bed and moved him to the elevator
and placed him in the same position he found him...
he was only 112 Pounds..and Kirky is a big boi...
But didn't the investigators "dust" Prince, his clothing, checking for DNA and stuff? It's really difficult to carry someone and not leave traces of yourself behind. Your own clothing fibers and such.
I really dont know... I havent seen any mentionin the reports of his clothing being dusted specifically... Plus..since the clothing was the same as he was wearing to the doctors office on the 20th.. If they did dust there is likelihood that both Shculenbergs and Kirkys Dna being present Im just throwing things out there...speculating.. like everyone else Yeah we all are speculating. Not everything they did and said has not been released by to the public. I'm sure they have seen things we can't even imagine, like they aren't even surprised about not being able to match up those pills, we might be but they weren't. But seem that actually carrying someone would "look" different than standing next to someone a lot of physical contact. Time keeps on slipping into the future...
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Reply #1411 posted 08/05/18 7:12pm
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It doesn't sound as stupid as you think it does. Remember due to the space heaters Prince was warm to the touch. In stressful situations and considering how KJ had to rescue Prince before, maybe he was attempting to do the same. Not sure why they would hide that fact though (to spare embarassment?)
Camileyun said:
SquirrelMeat said:
And remind me, why would he do that???????
Only if he wasn't sure he was dead, dressed him really quick ( backwards clothes), and was going to take him downstairs and call an ambulance, and realized he was dead in the elevator? Judith swore he looked dead on the plane. This sounds stupid as I'm writing it!
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Reply #1412 posted 08/05/18 7:14pm
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SkipperLove said: It doesn't sound as stupid as you think it does. Remember due to the space heaters Prince was warm to the touch. In stressful situations and considering how KJ had to rescue Prince before, maybe he was attempting to do the same. Not sure why they would hide that fact though (to spare embarassment?)
Camileyun said:
SquirrelMeat said:
And remind me, why would he do that?????
Only if he wasn't sure he was dead, dressed him really quick ( backwards clothes), and was going to take him downstairs and call an ambulance, and realized he was dead in the elevator? Judith swore he looked dead on the plane. This sounds stupid as I'm writing it!
It’s not stupid, it’s idiotic. |
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Reply #1413 posted 08/05/18 7:17pm
Camileyun |
Or, Shaun Powell really did find him...freaked out and dressed him (backwards clothes because he's young and scared). Takes him to the elevator and realizes he's dead, calls KJ, who tells him to get out of there, quick. The picture of the stairs mistakenly sent to Dr.S's phone was meant for Shaun ( don't know why).  |
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Reply #1414 posted 08/05/18 7:32pm
SkipperLove |
Why would they hide that Shaun found him? Why would they want everyone to think that P died all alone with no one nearby? Is Shaun related to Kirk? Is Shaun a drug hookup? Did Shaun witness a suicide? Why the hell weren't the cops able to talk to Shaun? They can't require a possible witness to answer questions? At the very least, why didn't they follow through a bit more on this guy?
Camileyun said:
Or, Shaun Powell really did find him...freaked out and dressed him (backwards clothes because he's young and scared). Takes him to the elevator and realizes he's dead, calls KJ, who tells him to get out of there, quick. The picture of the stairs mistakenly sent to Dr.S's phone was meant for Shaun ( don't know why).
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Reply #1415 posted 08/05/18 7:33pm
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I've been debating posting this. It's so old and they did get the number stamped on the pills wrong. One pill with the "Watson 385" stamp that was analyzed by the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension tested positive for fentanyl, lidocaine and another drug. Officials found nearly two dozen pills similar to the one that was tested, the official said. Another aspirin bottle had 64 counterfeit tablets in it. Some pills that were analyzed contained fentanyl, lidocaine and U-4770 -- a synthetic drug that is eight times more powerful than morphine. https://www.billboard.com...watson-385Time keeps on slipping into the future...
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Reply #1416 posted 08/05/18 7:33pm
SkipperLove |
the behavior may not make complete sense. But people do idiotic things sometimes in stressful situations.
muchtoofast said:
SkipperLove said:
It doesn't sound as stupid as you think it does. Remember due to the space heaters Prince was warm to the touch. In stressful situations and considering how KJ had to rescue Prince before, maybe he was attempting to do the same. Not sure why they would hide that fact though (to spare embarassment?)
It’s not stupid, it’s idiotic.
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Reply #1417 posted 08/05/18 7:37pm
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Camileyun said:
Or, Shaun Powell really did find him...freaked out and dressed him (backwards clothes because he's young and scared). Takes him to the elevator and realizes he's dead, calls KJ, who tells him to get out of there, quick. The picture of the stairs mistakenly sent to Dr.S's phone was meant for Shaun ( don't know why).
That picture has always bothered me...
its very easy to mistakenly send a pciure to the WRONG person
but not so easy to mistakenly send a picture....
In other words Kirk did that picture to someone and may not have reaslied that he sent it to Schulenberg by mistake until AFTER he sent it..
WHO was he sending that picture to ?
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Reply #1418 posted 08/05/18 7:59pm
Camileyun |
SkipperLove said: Why would they hide that Shaun found him? Why would they want everyone to think that P died all alone with no one nearby? Is Shaun related to Kirk? Is Shaun a drug hookup? Did Shaun witness a suicide? Why the hell weren't the cops able to talk to Shaun? They can't require a possible witness to answer questions? At the very least, why didn't they follow through a bit more on this guy?
Camileyun said:
Or, Shaun Powell really did find him...freaked out and dressed him (backwards clothes because he's young and scared). Takes him to the elevator and realizes he's dead, calls KJ, who tells him to get out of there, quick. The picture of the stairs mistakenly sent to Dr.S's phone was meant for Shaun ( don't know why).
They tried to contact Shaun, but he never responded. As far as we know, they never checked his phone records. They subpoenaed KJ s phone records for from 3/21 through 4/21. But I don't see where they talk about the day before P died...they only say who KJ called after he found P in the elevator...where are the phone records (I may have missed them) for KJ for the night of 4/20? [Edited 8/5/18 20:01pm] |
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Reply #1419 posted 08/05/18 8:52pm
benni |
Camileyun said:
benni said:
And the simplest solution is that he bought different batches, each had different substances in them, and after trying them, he put them in different bottles based on their effectiveness.
The fact that one of the bottles, #114, were all marked the same but had different ingredients (two were only lidocaine, one contained hydrocodone only) shows that it would have been easy to mix the pills up since they all looked the same, essentially, were marked the same, and would have been a risk that Prince would not have taken if he had designed them himself.
Good point about the mixed pills in #114, the vitamin C bottle. The Aleve bottle had 21 1/2 pills in it (pure lidocaine) so, in all likelihood, he tried it. If it didn't do what he thought it should do, why not throw it away? Why keep it with the bottle of fentanyl pills on your nightstand? [Edited 8/5/18 18:49pm]
Thanks, Cami. But I'm still not convinced that he knew the other pills contained Fentanyl. I think he knew they were stronger for some reason, but not necessarily why.
If you look at the above picture, imagine trying to get only 1 or 2 grains into each pill. What is in the picture is enough to kill you.
Another image.
Now imagine trying to make fentanyl pills in bulk. You'd almost have to make them one at a time to ensure that you were not getting too much fentanyl in any one pill. Some of the pills might not have any fentanyl in them. Others might have way too much. There'd be no way to mix the small amount needed (in bulk production) and ensure that each pill is getting less than this. There'd be no way to evenly distribute it in production, especially since it has to be cut into some other agent (such as lidocaine).
Prince was controlling, but this would just be too much of a risk for him. He'd never know from one pill to the next whether it was the right dose or whether it was too much, or whether it had any in it at all.
Now, let's say they made the mixture and decided to wait to add the fentanyl to the pills in the pill presses. They'd have to put two grains into each pill. How would you make sure you only added two grains? The grains are so small, you'd still end up adding more grains than intended.
There is just too much uncertainty with making these pills. And if Prince was smart enough to research lidocaine and know how it would react in the body with fentanyl, as has been suggested, then surely he was smart enough to research how much fentanyl would be dangerous, how difficult it would be to get the right amount in each pill, and the risks associated if they got more than the safe limit in each pill.
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Reply #1420 posted 08/05/18 9:01pm
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onlyforaminute said: PennyPurple said:
onlyforaminute said:
PennyPurple said:
Who has said he was doing it for 30 years straight?
Smart move but if he's taking it because of stage fright given his work schedule being on stage so much, and a drug dealer claiming he knows he died of fentanyl overdose because he had been supplying him for years starting back in the 80s. Reading the literature knowing one becomes addicted in just a couple of weeks on opioids. Knowing he was having issues with just taking anything with a far lesser strength in later years. Knowing that the pills found in his possession were marked as Vicodin, Knowing addicts don't increase their addiction going towards weaker drugs. Knowing that fentanyl is the very top of the opioid chain. Then the idea that Prince got addicted to fentanyl in his 20s yet switched to illegal Hydro later, taking everything into consideration, is just plan dumb.
See I don't think he was addicted for 30 years. I think he used on and off for years. I think he has used since his hip surgery. One does become tolerant to the drugs, no matter what your size or weight is. After 6 years of being on the codone I feel he moved up to the morphone and onto the fentanyl.
Where are you getting that he switched to a weaker drug? The results show if anything he switched to a stronger drug. I didn't see anything in the paperwork if they found any of the pills had the morphone in them, but his UA from Dr. S office the day before had codene and morphone in it.
It's still ass backwards to get addicted to the most powerful opioid there is, yet able to find the necessary relief as an addict from one of the weakest opioids there is. Where's the literature for that? Personally I think that's why he took his counterfeits and died. If he had been taking mildly laced fentanyl pills for a few weeks, a few months then he was getting amazing pain relief while getting hooked unknowingly to this stronger opioid. The withdrawals would have been the worse he'd ever experienced in his life because NOW he's addicted to the most powerful opioid there is. Of course the stuff KJ got him wouldn't do the trick in taking the edge off. His body wanted fentanyl, he's craving the stuff he's been taking. I think that's a pretty valid speculation when everything is considered. Which is why I think the family wants to sue the hospital because if they'd have actually tested the pill the mystery of why he was going through this kind of withdrawal would have been answered. He'd of been in a shitload of legal trouble but he might be alive. Agree about testing those pills he said he had taken in the Bayer bottle The hospital should have tested it. |
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Reply #1421 posted 08/05/18 9:09pm
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purplefam99 said:
onlyforaminute said:
It's still ass backwards to get addicted to the most powerful opioid there is, yet able to find the necessary relief as an addict from one of the weakest opioids there is. Where's the literature for that? Personally I think that's why he took his counterfeits and died. If he had been taking mildly laced fentanyl pills for a few weeks, a few months then he was getting amazing pain relief while getting hooked unknowingly to this stronger opioid. The withdrawals would have been the worse he'd ever experienced in his life because NOW he's addicted to the most powerful opioid there is. Of course the stuff KJ got him wouldn't do the trick in taking the edge off. His body wanted fentanyl, he's craving the stuff he's been taking. I think that's a pretty valid speculation when everything is considered. Which is why I think the family wants to sue the hospital because if they'd have actually tested the pill the mystery of why he was going through this kind of withdrawal would have been answered. He'd of been in a shitload of legal trouble but he might be alive.
Agree about testing those pills he said he had taken in the Bayer bottle The hospital should have tested it.
Yeah, but, why would they not believe Prince and why would they even think he'd have fentantyl laced pills? By all reports, Prince was very clean living. There'd not been any other major stories of him ever going out in public intoxicated with anything, or using any illicit drugs. I think this is one instance in which the persona of Prince won out.
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Reply #1422 posted 08/05/18 9:21pm
peggyon |
I have to say I have been away for awhile and when I read the last 4-5 pages, I laughed my head off. It was like a really witty screenplay...there are some really funny posters here. I especially like the back and forth between Paul and Menes...and LR. Little Richard...hysterical. I think we needed this levity.
I think the Lidocaine is a cutting agent and is used topically. I think we came to this conclusion awhile back. I think Benni's reasoning re: why different drugs were found in different bottles could have merit. Prince may have separated them according to their srength.
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Reply #1423 posted 08/05/18 9:24pm
Camileyun |
benni said:
Camileyun said:
benni said:
And the simplest solution is that he bought different batches, each had different substances in them, and after trying them, he put them in different bottles based on their effectiveness.
The fact that one of the bottles, #114, were all marked the same but had different ingredients (two were only lidocaine, one contained hydrocodone only) shows that it would have been easy to mix the pills up since they all looked the same, essentially, were marked the same, and would have been a risk that Prince would not have taken if he had designed them himself.
Good point about the mixed pills in #114, the vitamin C bottle. The Aleve bottle had 21 1/2 pills in it (pure lidocaine) so, in all likelihood, he tried it. If it didn't do what he thought it should do, why not throw it away? Why keep it with the bottle of fentanyl pills on your nightstand? [Edited 8/5/18 18:49pm]
Thanks, Cami. But I'm still not convinced that he knew the other pills contained Fentanyl. I think he knew they were stronger for some reason, but not necessarily why.
If you look at the above picture, imagine trying to get only 1 or 2 grains into each pill. What is in the picture is enough to kill you.
Another image.
Now imagine trying to make fentanyl pills in bulk. You'd almost have to make them one at a time to ensure that you were not getting too much fentanyl in any one pill. Some of the pills might not have any fentanyl in them. Others might have way too much. There'd be no way to mix the small amount needed (in bulk production) and ensure that each pill is getting less than this. There'd be no way to evenly distribute it in production, especially since it has to be cut into some other agent (such as lidocaine).
Prince was controlling, but this would just be too much of a risk for him. He'd never know from one pill to the next whether it was the right dose or whether it was too much, or whether it had any in it at all.
Now, let's say they made the mixture and decided to wait to add the fentanyl to the pills in the pill presses. They'd have to put two grains into each pill. How would you make sure you only added two grains? The grains are so small, you'd still end up adding more grains than intended.
There is just too much uncertainty with making these pills. And if Prince was smart enough to research lidocaine and know how it would react in the body with fentanyl, as has been suggested, then surely he was smart enough to research how much fentanyl would be dangerous, how difficult it would be to get the right amount in each pill, and the risks associated if they got more than the safe limit in each pill.
[Edited 8/5/18 20:56pm] It sure is easy to see how so many people are dying from this stuff. At least with patches, it's regulated...No guessing. |
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Reply #1424 posted 08/05/18 9:24pm
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paulludvig said:
I'm sure some of you are exhausted spending so much time posting from multiple accounts, practically having a conversation with yourself in order to validate your theory that Prince was a long time drug addict who had no legitimate reasons for medicating.
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Reply #1425 posted 08/05/18 9:27pm
peggyon |
benni said:
purplefam99 said:
onlyforaminute said: Agree about testing those pills he said he had taken in the Bayer bottle The hospital should have tested it.
Yeah, but, why would they not believe Prince and why would they even think he'd have fentantyl laced pills? By all reports, Prince was very clean living. There'd not been any other major stories of him ever going out in public intoxicated with anything, or using any illicit drugs. I think this is one instance in which the persona of Prince won out.
I think he titrated his meds just enough to give him whatever effect he was looking for. It is amazing.
Perhaps he should have considered a career in pharmacology.
In the investigative reports, several previous employees mentioned drug use. One of his previous assistants quit stating she did not want to be a "drug dealer". Sheila mentioned that she severed ties with him secondary to his drug-taking. Mani mentioned drugs... So, there are numerous reports though he did look put-together, stylish and prolific??? |
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Reply #1426 posted 08/05/18 9:32pm
Camileyun |
benni said:
purplefam99 said:
onlyforaminute said:
It's still ass backwards to get addicted to the most powerful opioid there is, yet able to find the necessary relief as an addict from one of the weakest opioids there is. Where's the literature for that? Personally I think that's why he took his counterfeits and died. If he had been taking mildly laced fentanyl pills for a few weeks, a few months then he was getting amazing pain relief while getting hooked unknowingly to this stronger opioid. The withdrawals would have been the worse he'd ever experienced in his life because NOW he's addicted to the most powerful opioid there is. Of course the stuff KJ got him wouldn't do the trick in taking the edge off. His body wanted fentanyl, he's craving the stuff he's been taking. I think that's a pretty valid speculation when everything is considered. Which is why I think the family wants to sue the hospital because if they'd have actually tested the pill the mystery of why he was going through this kind of withdrawal would have been answered. He'd of been in a shitload of legal trouble but he might be alive.
Agree about testing those pills he said he had taken in the Bayer bottle The hospital should have tested it.
Yeah, but, why would they not believe Prince and why would they even think he'd have fentantyl laced pills? By all reports, Prince was very clean living. There'd not been any other major stories of him ever going out in public intoxicated with anything, or using any illicit drugs. I think this is one instance in which the persona of Prince won out.
They didn't believe him because it took 2 Narcan shots to revive him, so they knew he hadn't only taken Percocet, but he refused a blood test, which in the end, may have saved his life.  |
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Reply #1427 posted 08/05/18 9:32pm
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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
paulludvig said:
I'm sure some of you are exhausted spending so much time posting from multiple accounts, practically having a conversation with yourself in order to validate your theory that Prince was a long time drug addict who had no legitimate reasons for medicating.
Paul-read the files. You're a bright person, it won't take long. You will hear from a number of folks who stated Prince had issues with opiates.
I just finished complimenting you on your wit.
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Reply #1428 posted 08/05/18 9:34pm
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benni said:
Camileyun said:
benni said:
And the simplest solution is that he bought different batches, each had different substances in them, and after trying them, he put them in different bottles based on their effectiveness.
The fact that one of the bottles, #114, were all marked the same but had different ingredients (two were only lidocaine, one contained hydrocodone only) shows that it would have been easy to mix the pills up since they all looked the same, essentially, were marked the same, and would have been a risk that Prince would not have taken if he had designed them himself.
Good point about the mixed pills in #114, the vitamin C bottle. The Aleve bottle had 21 1/2 pills in it (pure lidocaine) so, in all likelihood, he tried it. If it didn't do what he thought it should do, why not throw it away? Why keep it with the bottle of fentanyl pills on your nightstand? [Edited 8/5/18 18:49pm]
Thanks, Cami. But I'm still not convinced that he knew the other pills contained Fentanyl. I think he knew they were stronger for some reason, but not necessarily why.
If you look at the above picture, imagine trying to get only 1 or 2 grains into each pill. What is in the picture is enough to kill you.
Another image.
Now imagine trying to make fentanyl pills in bulk. You'd almost have to make them one at a time to ensure that you were not getting too much fentanyl in any one pill. Some of the pills might not have any fentanyl in them. Others might have way too much. There'd be no way to mix the small amount needed (in bulk production) and ensure that each pill is getting less than this. There'd be no way to evenly distribute it in production, especially since it has to be cut into some other agent (such as lidocaine).
Prince was controlling, but this would just be too much of a risk for him. He'd never know from one pill to the next whether it was the right dose or whether it was too much, or whether it had any in it at all.
Now, let's say they made the mixture and decided to wait to add the fentanyl to the pills in the pill presses. They'd have to put two grains into each pill. How would you make sure you only added two grains? The grains are so small, you'd still end up adding more grains than intended.
There is just too much uncertainty with making these pills. And if Prince was smart enough to research lidocaine and know how it would react in the body with fentanyl, as has been suggested, then surely he was smart enough to research how much fentanyl would be dangerous, how difficult it would be to get the right amount in each pill, and the risks associated if they got more than the safe limit in each pill.
[Edited 8/5/18 20:56pm] That's what the authorities have been saying this whole time. These counterfeit are mixed haphazardly. And since there's no clue what his source was no one knows if different pills in different bottles just means different suppliers. Time keeps on slipping into the future...
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Reply #1429 posted 08/05/18 9:36pm
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peggyon said:
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
Paul-read the files. You're a bright person, it won't take long. You will hear from a number of folks who stated Prince had issues with opiates.
I just finished complimenting you on your wit.
We are not making this up. Truth is stanger than fiction here. And, I bet we don't know the half of it.
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Reply #1430 posted 08/05/18 9:56pm
benni |
peggyon said:
benni said:
Yeah, but, why would they not believe Prince and why would they even think he'd have fentantyl laced pills? By all reports, Prince was very clean living. There'd not been any other major stories of him ever going out in public intoxicated with anything, or using any illicit drugs. I think this is one instance in which the persona of Prince won out.
I think he titrated his meds just enough to give him whatever effect he was looking for. It is amazing.
Perhaps he should have considered a career in pharmacology.
In the investigative reports, several previous employees mentioned drug use. One of his previous assistants quit stating she did not want to be a "drug dealer". Sheila mentioned that she severed ties with him secondary to his drug-taking. Mani mentioned drugs... So, there are numerous reports though he did look put-together, stylish and prolific???
Right, but the hospital would not have access to those previous employees. Those stories didn't come out until after Prince passed. And while there might have been rumors previously, they were so under-wraps that many Prince fans didn't even know about them. In other words, they weren't reported in the news, etc. So for the hospital personnel, all they had was what they knew from the news (mainstream media) which was that Prince was very clean living, fined his employees for using drugs, or got rid of them, was a vegetarian and watched what he put in his body. Prince wasn't ever recorded (that we know of) being high, trashing hotel rooms, no outrageous behavior except for maybe his stage personnas. Bikini briefs, trench coat, and thigh highs come to mind  but that would not be anything that would make them think "he's using illicit drugs".
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Reply #1431 posted 08/05/18 9:58pm
ISaidLifeIsJus
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There are so many alt names talking to themselves it is making my HAID spin.
What the eff happened to cause all this name calling and arguing?
I think Prince would find this amusing.
 
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Reply #1432 posted 08/05/18 10:01pm
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Well I'm a single name or however that goes. Time keeps on slipping into the future...
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Reply #1433 posted 08/05/18 10:13pm
benni |
Camileyun said:
benni said:
Yeah, but, why would they not believe Prince and why would they even think he'd have fentantyl laced pills? By all reports, Prince was very clean living. There'd not been any other major stories of him ever going out in public intoxicated with anything, or using any illicit drugs. I think this is one instance in which the persona of Prince won out.
They didn't believe him because it took 2 Narcan shots to revive him, so they knew he hadn't only taken Percocet, but he refused a blood test, which in the end, may have saved his life.
Not necessarily, Cami. The two Narcan shots are considered normal. They now sell 4mg Narcan nasal spray for lay people to administer to someone that is overdosing.
The two Narcan shots totaled 4 mg of Narcan. In emergency situations they often titrate the Narcan, because Narcan wears off quickly, faster than most opioids, and the individual can go into respiratory distress again. Percocet's half life is approximately 3.5 hours to 5.0 hours. Narcan's half life is half that. Typically about one and a half hours to 3 hours. The Narcan will wear off before the Percocet does.
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Reply #1434 posted 08/05/18 10:14pm
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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
There are so many alt names talking to themselves it is making my HAID spin.
What the eff happened to cause all this name calling and arguing?
I think Prince would find this amusing.
And I'm just me! Thank goodness for that because I don't think others could handle more of me!
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Reply #1435 posted 08/05/18 10:25pm
Camileyun |
benni said:
Camileyun said:
benni said:
Yeah, but, why would they not believe Prince and why would they even think he'd have fentantyl laced pills? By all reports, Prince was very clean living. There'd not been any other major stories of him ever going out in public intoxicated with anything, or using any illicit drugs. I think this is one instance in which the persona of Prince won out.
They didn't believe him because it took 2 Narcan shots to revive him, so they knew he hadn't only taken Percocet, but he refused a blood test, which in the end, may have saved his life.
Not necessarily, Cami. The two Narcan shots are considered normal. They now sell 4mg Narcan nasal spray for lay people to administer to someone that is overdosing.
The two Narcan shots totaled 4 mg of Narcan. In emergency situations they often titrate the Narcan, because Narcan wears off quickly, faster than most opioids, and the individual can go into respiratory distress again. Percocet's half life is approximately 3.5 hours to 5.0 hours. Narcan's half life is half that. Typically about one and a half hours to 3 hours. The Narcan will wear off before the Percocet does.
I'm just going by what the doctor told P, that there was no way he had only taken what he said he took. |
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Reply #1436 posted 08/05/18 10:32pm
Lovejunky |
benni said:
Bodhitheblackdog said:
where's that throwing up emoji?...I need it RIGHT THIS INSTANT!...and speaking of "deceptive"...are you talking trash about our beloved idol Prince? I mean deceptive is the most benign word one could use to describe all his games over the years re drugs/pain/OD's/preaching against drugs/ fining/firing people for using drugs around him (Wendy's beer?!)...
Yo, benni, I guess Prince proved to you BIGLY that he was 'deceptive' by offing himself by taking too many DRUGS...
BTW: that high horse you're on is so unattractive (I wanted to say 'makes you look fat' but I didn't want to go too far) but you get the idea...
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Well, I decided to do this instead....(you know, me looking fat)
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Yepp Bodhi must be psychic...
you are totally unattractive and terribly fat..
that makes you inelligible to comment
on the org...
can hardly bear to look at you...
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Reply #1437 posted 08/05/18 10:44pm
benni |
Camileyun said:
benni said:
Not necessarily, Cami. The two Narcan shots are considered normal. They now sell 4mg Narcan nasal spray for lay people to administer to someone that is overdosing.
The two Narcan shots totaled 4 mg of Narcan. In emergency situations they often titrate the Narcan, because Narcan wears off quickly, faster than most opioids, and the individual can go into respiratory distress again. Percocet's half life is approximately 3.5 hours to 5.0 hours. Narcan's half life is half that. Typically about one and a half hours to 3 hours. The Narcan will wear off before the Percocet does.
I'm just going by what the doctor told P, that there was no way he had only taken what he said he took.
I'm wondering if the doctor meant dose wise when he said that? If Prince had only taken what he said he took, he wouldn't have been overdosing?
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Reply #1438 posted 08/05/18 10:45pm
benni |
Lovejunky said:
benni said:
Well, I decided to do this instead....(you know, me looking fat)
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Yepp Bodhi must be psychic...
you are totally unattractive and terribly fat..
that makes you inelligible to comment
on the org...
can hardly bear to look at you...
Oh gee, my ego just took a nose dive!
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Reply #1439 posted 08/05/18 11:31pm
paulludvig |
peggyon said:
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
paulludvig said:
I'm sure some of you are exhausted spending so much time posting from multiple accounts, practically having a conversation with yourself in order to validate your theory that Prince was a long time drug addict who had no legitimate reasons for medicating.
Paul-read the files. You're a bright person, it won't take long. You will hear from a number of folks who stated Prince had issues with opiates. I just finished complimenting you on your wit. We are not making this up. Truth is stanger than fiction here. And, I bet we don't know the half of it. He obviously had issues with opiates. The question is why and for how long. The wooh is on the one! |
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