PennyPurple said:

In the reports, chief Johnson pulled Prince from the elevator. He said he normally didn’t move bodies, but Prince was warm to the touch and thought he could be revived.

Lovejunky said:

benni said:

So, as a professional, do you often resort to name calling and condescension when trying to make the point of what your research shows?

Hes taking the Piss benni,

LR is reference to Laura Richardson former org member

LOL - Thanks Lovejunky. I tend to take people at their word. I guess I never like to think that people can be so deceptive. I mean, I know they can, but I'd rather take them at their word, until they prove otherwise. He just proved otherwise.

Menes said:

PennyPurple said:

Well hello, stranger!

From the reports I believe that he projectile vomited on the front of the elevator, and fell backwards head in the back and feet in front where the opening is, but when he fell it was on his left side.

Still can't figure out why the vomit didn't test positive for narcs.

Sorry hun< apologize for not saying hello .

Weird that he fell that way. What I'm trying to figure out is if he was found inside the elevator (door closed) or just outside of it. Combed reports, nothing. Pictures of him are outside of the elevator, so how did he get there?

I believe the EMT's and later the Fire Chief dragged him out to see if they should/ could provide any medical intervention and were preparing to do just that when they observed the rigor mortis. Penny, did I get that right? (she knows it all stone cold...just sayin')

benni said:

OMG, that is so funny, I love it!!

benni said:

Lovejunky said:

Hes taking the Piss benni,

LR is reference to Laura Richardson former org member

LOL - Thanks Lovejunky. I tend to take people at their word. I guess I never like to think that people can be so deceptive. I mean, I know they can, but I'd rather take them at their word, until they prove otherwise. He just proved otherwise.

where's that throwing up emoji?...I need it RIGHT THIS INSTANT!...and speaking of "deceptive"...are you talking trash about our beloved idol Prince? I mean deceptive is the most benign word one could use to describe all his games over the years re drugs/pain/OD's/preaching against drugs/ fining/firing people for using drugs around him (Wendy's beer?!)...

Yo, benni, I guess Prince proved to you BIGLY that he was 'deceptive' by offing himself by taking too many DRUGS...

BTW: that high horse you're on is so unattractive (I wanted to say 'makes you look fat' but I didn't want to go too far) but you get the idea...

[Edited 8/5/18 18:06pm]

Bodhitheblackdog said:

benni said:

LOL - Thanks Lovejunky. I tend to take people at their word. I guess I never like to think that people can be so deceptive. I mean, I know they can, but I'd rather take them at their word, until they prove otherwise. He just proved otherwise.

where's that throwing up emoji?...I need it RIGHT THIS INSTANT!

You know, Bodhi, I used to think you fairly nice. Such a shame...

Krystalkisses said:

Can we make it interesting and see who gets to take who out for a steak dinner if they're erong?

onlyforaminute said:

I don't think Krystal can afford it though.
[Edited 8/5/18 18:06pm]

PennyPurple said:

Menes said:

Sorry hun< apologize for not saying hello .

Weird that he fell that way. What I'm trying to figure out is if he was found inside the elevator (door closed) or just outside of it. Combed reports, nothing. Pictures of him are outside of the elevator, so how did he get there?

Awe yes, I still haven't figured out that riddle..yet.

I think he crawled out of the elevator at the last minute. The positioning is interesting. Don't remember KJ stating that he moved the body. Some lividity can be seen too.

benni said:

Lovejunky said:

Hes taking the Piss benni,

LR is reference to Laura Richardson former org member

LOL - Thanks Lovejunky. I tend to take people at their word. I guess I never like to think that people can be so deceptive. I mean, I know they can, but I'd rather take them at their word, until they prove otherwise. He just proved otherwise.

I'm so sorry this has happened to you.

Menes said:

PennyPurple said:

Awe yes, I still haven't figured out that riddle..yet.

I think he crawled out of the elevator at the last minute. The positioning is interesting. Don't remember KJ stating that he moved the body. Some lividity can be seen too.

He was found INSIDE the elevator and dragged out by the First on the scene in order to begin ressucitation attempts

Its mentioned a few times in the documents...

I will try and find it....

nelcp777 said:

PennyPurple said:

Awe yes, I still haven't figured out that riddle..yet.

In the reports, chief Johnson pulled Prince from the elevator. He said he normally didn’t move bodies, but Prince was warm to the touch and thought he could be revived.

Where can that be found in the reports? Interesting.

Menes said:

benni said:

LOL - Thanks Lovejunky. I tend to take people at their word. I guess I never like to think that people can be so deceptive. I mean, I know they can, but I'd rather take them at their word, until they prove otherwise. He just proved otherwise.

I'm so sorry this has happened to you.

benni said:

Lovejunky said:

Hes taking the Piss benni,

LR is reference to Laura Richardson former org member

LOL - Thanks Lovejunky. I tend to take people at their word. I guess I never like to think that people can be so deceptive. I mean, I know they can, but I'd rather take them at their word, until they prove otherwise. He just proved otherwise.

Yea, totally busted me on that one. I was working on a book with a fellow orger but things went sideways so I decided to just put the information out in the forum here.

In just the overall scanning this there have been 4 different ways Prince got out of the elevator all by people have ganged up on people about reading the report while claiming how thoroughly they've read the reports. Simple logic dictates that 4 different ways cannot possibly be correct so something is wrong here. Anybody care to clarify any of that?

Lovejunky said:

Menes said:

I think he crawled out of the elevator at the last minute. The positioning is interesting. Don't remember KJ stating that he moved the body. Some lividity can be seen too.

He was found INSIDE the elevator and dragged out by the First on the scene in order to begin ressucitation attempts

Its mentioned a few times in the documents...

I will try and find it....

Investigative Reports #1 from Carver County file download _5

The First 15 Pages mention numerous times that he was found INSIDE the elevator and was pulled out By Chanhassen Fire Chief Johnson

sorry cant insert link..

but its easy to find..

Lovejunky said:

Lovejunky said:

He was found INSIDE the elevator and dragged out by the First on the scene in order to begin ressucitation attempts

Its mentioned a few times in the documents...

I will try and find it....

Investigative Reports #1 from Carver County file download _5

The First 15 Pages mention numerous times that he was found INSIDE the elevator and was pulled out By Chanhassen Fire Chief Johnson

sorry cant insert link..

but its easy to find..

Surprsing KJ didn't try to move Prince or something since he was the first one to find Prince (if I'm not mistaken). What a weird reaction. Must have been the shock.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

This comment makes you look fat, Bodhi.

benni said:

Good point about the mixed pills in #114, the vitamin C bottle. The Aleve bottle had 21 1/2 pills in it (pure lidocaine) so, in all likelihood, he tried it. If it didn't do what he thought it should do, why not throw it away?
Why keep it with the bottle of fentanyl pills on your nightstand?
[Edited 8/5/18 18:49pm]

Bodhitheblackdog said:

benni said:

LOL - Thanks Lovejunky. I tend to take people at their word. I guess I never like to think that people can be so deceptive. I mean, I know they can, but I'd rather take them at their word, until they prove otherwise. He just proved otherwise.

where's that throwing up emoji?...I need it RIGHT THIS INSTANT!...and speaking of "deceptive"...are you talking trash about our beloved idol Prince? I mean deceptive is the most benign word one could use to describe all his games over the years re drugs/pain/OD's/preaching against drugs/ fining/firing people for using drugs around him (Wendy's beer?!)...

Yo, benni, I guess Prince proved to you BIGLY that he was 'deceptive' by offing himself by taking too many DRUGS...

BTW: that high horse you're on is so unattractive (I wanted to say 'makes you look fat' but I didn't want to go too far) but you get the idea...

[Edited 8/5/18 18:06pm]

Well, I decided to do this instead....(you know, me looking fat)

[Edited 8/5/18 21:02pm]

Menes said:

Lovejunky said:

Investigative Reports #1 from Carver County file download _5

The First 15 Pages mention numerous times that he was found INSIDE the elevator and was pulled out By Chanhassen Fire Chief Johnson

sorry cant insert link..

but its easy to find..

Surprsing KJ didn't try to move Prince or something since he was the first one to find Prince (if I'm not mistaken). What a weird reaction. Must have been the shock.

There is STILL the possibilty that Kirk found him in his bed and moved him to the elevator

and placed him in the same position he found him...

he was only 112 Pounds..and Kirky is a big boi...

Menes said:

Menes said:

Lovejunky said:

Menes said:

Surprsing KJ didn't try to move Prince or something since he was the first one to find Prince (if I'm not mistaken). What a weird reaction. Must have been the shock.

There is STILL the possibilty that Kirk found him in his bed and moved him to the elevator

and placed him in the same position he found him...

he was only 112 Pounds..and Kirky is a big boi...

And remind me, why would he do that???????

Lovejunky said:

Menes said:

Surprsing KJ didn't try to move Prince or something since he was the first one to find Prince (if I'm not mistaken). What a weird reaction. Must have been the shock.

There is STILL the possibilty that Kirk found him in his bed and moved him to the elevator

and placed him in the same position he found him...

he was only 112 Pounds..and Kirky is a big boi...

Moved him from the bed to the elevator? What would be the purpose of that?

Menes said:

Lovejunky said:

There is STILL the possibilty that Kirk found him in his bed and moved him to the elevator

and placed him in the same position he found him...

he was only 112 Pounds..and Kirky is a big boi...

Moved him from the bed to the elevator? What would be the purpose of that?

WHo knows...

Maybe he freaked out , maybe he didnt realise he was already deceased...

he was warm to the touch..His first reaction was to lift Prince...

remember he had done this only a week earlier....

Maybe he thought hed take him downstairs to Andrew for help?

Andrew reports that Kirky was gone for approx 10 or 15 minutes and returned Nervous...

Lovejunky said:

But didn't the investigators "dust" Prince, his clothing, checking for DNA and stuff? It's really difficult to carry someone and not leave traces of yourself behind. Your own clothing fibers and such.

onlyforaminute said:

Lovejunky said:

There is STILL the possibilty that Kirk found him in his bed and moved him to the elevator

and placed him in the same position he found him...

he was only 112 Pounds..and Kirky is a big boi...

But didn't the investigators "dust" Prince, his clothing, checking for DNA and stuff? It's really difficult to carry someone and not leave traces of yourself behind. Your own clothing fibers and such.

I really dont know...

I havent seen any mentionin the reports of his clothing being dusted specifically...

Plus..since the clothing was the same as he was wearing to the doctors office on the 20th..

If they did dust there is likelihood that both Shculenbergs and Kirkys Dna being present

Im just throwing things out there...speculating..

like everyone else

benni said:

Menes said:

You've been cooked to a crisp is what it is. Hopefully, your eyelashes remained in tact . Something awful about a wowan without her lashes.

1. You stated lidocaine can't be made in pill form. Debunked

2. Babbliing about the (3) substances the pills cotained when we have the exact contents in the reports. You're fired.

3. You didn't even know what the needle puncture in his arm was from? You had to guess that when Penny has provided the info ions ago?

4. Lastly , you didnt know that L/R was Little Richard? Cheez. You're out of touch.

[Edited 8/5/18 16:01pm]

1. I said that lidocaine made into pill form would have to have an added ingredient.
2. The three substances the pills contained were what was in the news report.
3. I never mentioned a needle puncture in his arm.
4. And no, I didn't know LR was Little Richard, as I hadn't read her say anything about LR, which she was claiming resulted in the posting. Cheez.

5. Still waiting on you to provide the information that Paul has asked for, not just in this thread, but in previous threads when you made your claims.

Right....

Here is the only thing I can find on ORAL LIDOCAINE...

Mexiletine

It is an orally taken form of lidocaine,

was originally approved to treat irregular heartbeats,

but sometimes is effective in the relief of chronic nerve pain.

SquirrelMeat said:

Only if he wasn't sure he was dead, dressed him really quick ( backwards clothes), and was going to take him downstairs and call an ambulance, and realized he was dead in the elevator? Judith swore he looked dead on the plane. This sounds stupid as I'm writing it!