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Reply #840 posted 08/02/18 6:59pm

Camileyun

paulludvig said:

Camileyun said:



There are very few things in this world we truly know for a "fact", you cannot even trust what you see with your own eyes sometimes! But I think we can say, at this point, that P. was not adverse to doing drugs. He may have dropped acid, snorted coke or crystal, or whatever else was readily available back in the day for all we know. Of course I could never state this as fact, and 2 years ago I would have thought that was crazy talk. But knowing about the cocktail of drugs in his system when he died, and reading his associates interviews, Dr. D (if you believe him), I think it is safe to say that P., like many in his generation, grew up around drugs and was familiar with them. He may not have been addicted back then, but it would be naive to think he just decided to go for the gusto one day and try fentanyl. No one can tell anyone else what to believe. It's quite obvious to Penny, and many others...lighten up...life is short.


The police concluded that he didn't know he was taking Fentanyl, so thst wasn't something "he just decided to do."

Dr.D would disagree with you.
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Reply #841 posted 08/02/18 7:02pm

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Camileyun said:

OperatingThetan said:
Agreed. There is little to no substantiated, credible evidence for that statement at all. It's merely further hyperbole, speculation and conjecture.
There are very few things in this world we truly know for a "fact", you cannot even trust what you see with your own eyes sometimes! But I think we can say, at this point, that P. was not adverse to doing drugs. He may have dropped acid, snorted coke or crystal, or whatever else was readily available back in the day for all we know. Of course I could never state this as fact, and 2 years ago I would have thought that was crazy talk. But knowing about the cocktail of drugs in his system when he died, and reading his associates interviews, Dr. D (if you believe him), I think it is safe to say that P., like many in his generation, grew up around drugs and was familiar with them. He may not have been addicted back then, but it would be naive to think he just decided to go for the gusto one day and try fentanyl. No one can tell anyone else what to believe. It's quite obvious to Penny, and many others...lighten up...life is short.

So you're calling Prince a hypocrite & a LIAR?

[Edited 8/2/18 12:05pm]

"That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when eye was doing the Purple Rain tour eye had a lot of people who eye knew eye'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream."prince
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Reply #842 posted 08/02/18 7:03pm

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Camileyun said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

How is cocaine relevant to the police investigation?? According to the medical records prince was healthy


It's not.

It's pointless..prince didn't die from cocaine nor was coke found at paisley. If he did coke in the past..so what?
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Reply #843 posted 08/02/18 7:04pm

Camileyun

ChocolateBox3121 said:



Camileyun said:


OperatingThetan said:
Agreed. There is little to no substantiated, credible evidence for that statement at all. It's merely further hyperbole, speculation and conjecture.

There are very few things in this world we truly know for a "fact", you cannot even trust what you see with your own eyes sometimes! But I think we can say, at this point, that P. was not adverse to doing drugs. He may have dropped acid, snorted coke or crystal, or whatever else was readily available back in the day for all we know. Of course I could never state this as fact, and 2 years ago I would have thought that was crazy talk. But knowing about the cocktail of drugs in his system when he died, and reading his associates interviews, Dr. D (if you believe him), I think it is safe to say that P., like many in his generation, grew up around drugs and was familiar with them. He may not have been addicted back then, but it would be naive to think he just decided to go for the gusto one day and try fentanyl. No one can tell anyone else what to believe. It's quite obvious to Penny, and many others...lighten up...life is short.

So your calling Prince a hypocrite & a LIAR?


What the heck are you talking about?
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Reply #844 posted 08/02/18 7:06pm

Camileyun

Strawberrylova123 said:

Camileyun said:



It's not.

It's pointless..prince didn't die from cocaine nor was coke found at paisley. If he did coke in the past..so what?

Exactly.
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Reply #845 posted 08/02/18 7:13pm

NotACleverName

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peggyon said:



SkipperLove said:

Use the arrow down button. Don't read them. Start your own posts. Whatever. I am done.


peggyon said:


Skipper-I wonder if you can allow for other voices? I am feeling overwhelmed by the frequency and intensity of your posts. Can you sit back a bit? You seem rather new to the forum but I feel you have taken over and it is making me want to avoid this thread.





thank you


I was thinking the same thing, peggy. Skipper reminds me so much of another poster who has been absent from the forum lately. Purplerabbithole has such a similar posting style to Skipper that it is absolutely uncanny. Some I noticed are....responding at the top of prev post, two cap ltrs on select words (such as "PRince"...electronic devices notice and copy styles of user's writing) and finally, long, frequent posts.

Eh....what do I know? I just lurk every day and post infrequently.

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Reply #846 posted 08/02/18 7:14pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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precioux said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

No can do.

It's still an open investigation with the DEA.

blunt


...then what just happened? wink



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Reply #847 posted 08/02/18 7:24pm

paulludvig

Camileyun said:

paulludvig said:



The police concluded that he didn't know he was taking Fentanyl, so thst wasn't something "he just decided to do."

Dr.D would disagree with you.


"Dr.D" is a tabloid news "source"
The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #848 posted 08/02/18 7:30pm

Camileyun

paulludvig said:

Camileyun said:


Dr.D would disagree with you.


"Dr.D" is a tabloid news "source"


Do you know that for a "fact"? wink
[Edited 8/2/18 12:30pm]
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Reply #849 posted 08/02/18 7:35pm

Camileyun

Camileyun said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:



Camileyun said:


OperatingThetan said:
Agreed. There is little to no substantiated, credible evidence for that statement at all. It's merely further hyperbole, speculation and conjecture.

There are very few things in this world we truly know for a "fact", you cannot even trust what you see with your own eyes sometimes! But I think we can say, at this point, that P. was not adverse to doing drugs. He may have dropped acid, snorted coke or crystal, or whatever else was readily available back in the day for all we know. Of course I could never state this as fact, and 2 years ago I would have thought that was crazy talk. But knowing about the cocktail of drugs in his system when he died, and reading his associates interviews, Dr. D (if you believe him), I think it is safe to say that P., like many in his generation, grew up around drugs and was familiar with them. He may not have been addicted back then, but it would be naive to think he just decided to go for the gusto one day and try fentanyl. No one can tell anyone else what to believe. It's quite obvious to Penny, and many others...lighten up...life is short.

So your calling Prince a hypocrite & a LIAR?


What the heck are you talking about?


No response, again? Since P never told me, nor have I ever seen him say, he never did any drugs back in the day, then I could never call him a hypocrite or a liar. Maybe you should reread my post...you missed the point.
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Reply #850 posted 08/02/18 7:38pm

paulludvig
The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #851 posted 08/02/18 7:39pm

Bodhitheblackd
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Camileyun said:

OperatingThetan said:
Agreed. There is little to no substantiated, credible evidence for that statement at all. It's merely further hyperbole, speculation and conjecture.
There are very few things in this world we truly know for a "fact", you cannot even trust what you see with your own eyes sometimes! But I think we can say, at this point, that P. was not adverse to doing drugs. He may have dropped acid, snorted coke or crystal, or whatever else was readily available back in the day for all we know. Of course I could never state this as fact, and 2 years ago I would have thought that was crazy talk. But knowing about the cocktail of drugs in his system when he died, and reading his associates interviews, Dr. D (if you believe him), I think it is safe to say that P., like many in his generation, grew up around drugs and was familiar with them. He may not have been addicted back then, but it would be naive to think he just decided to go for the gusto one day and try fentanyl. No one can tell anyone else what to believe. It's quite obvious to Penny, and many others...lighten up...life is short.

co-sign

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Reply #852 posted 08/02/18 7:41pm

Bodhitheblackd
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muchtoofast said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

But you don't know that only, why are you being so aggressive? neutral

If you pretend to be someone you’re not, someone who has had sex with Prince, and say things like Prince needed to be loved like a baby, like wtf? No one wants their chain yanked so you can while away the hours on a legit fan site. It pisses people off. Jmho of course.

agree 1000%

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Reply #853 posted 08/02/18 7:42pm

NotACleverName

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Camileyun said:

paulludvig said:



"Dr.D" is a tabloid news "source"


Do you know that for a "fact"? wink
[Edited 8/2/18 12:30pm]

Dr. D must be a psychic drug dealer....his info was so close to the narrative and his revelations were made before the public knew of certain details. He mentioned drugs found in Prince's system, stated Prince would spend $40,000 every six months ($60,000 in petty cash draws seems like a whole lot of coffee and running around money). I don't think Dr. D can be completely discounted.
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Reply #854 posted 08/02/18 7:43pm

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Camileyun said:

paulludvig said:
The police concluded that he didn't know he was taking Fentanyl, so thst wasn't something "he just decided to do."
Dr.D would disagree with you.

co-sign...you're on fire Camileyun!

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Reply #855 posted 08/02/18 7:45pm

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NotACleverName said:

peggyon said:

thank you

I was thinking the same thing, peggy. Skipper reminds me so much of another poster who has been absent from the forum lately. Purplerabbithole has such a similar posting style to Skipper that it is absolutely uncanny. Some I noticed are....responding at the top of prev post, two cap ltrs on select words (such as "PRince"...electronic devices notice and copy styles of user's writing) and finally, long, frequent posts. Eh....what do I know? I just lurk every day and post infrequently.

Yep...you're on to it...

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Reply #856 posted 08/02/18 7:46pm

Camileyun

paulludvig said:

https://kstp.com/news/dea-search-warrant-looked-into-packages-sent-to-chanhassen-hotel-for-prince-paisley-park-entities-associates-death-investigation/5013468/?cat=1
[Edited 8/2/18 12:39pm]

Good luck to the family and their wrongful death suit. The hospital has a signed Refusal of Treatment form and paperwork showing they not only counseled P, but told him several times that they needed to draw blood to find out what was going on with him and he repeatedly refused. More lawyer's fees out the window! Thanks for the link!
[Edited 8/2/18 12:46pm]
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Reply #857 posted 08/02/18 7:47pm

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Camileyun said:

paulludvig said:
https://kstp.com/news/dea-search-warrant-looked-into-packages-sent-to-chanhassen-hotel-for-prince-paisley-park-entities-associates-death-investigation/5013468/?cat=1 [Edited 8/2/18 12:39pm]
Good luck to the family and their wrongful death suit. The hospital has a signed Refusal of Treatment form and paperwork showing they not only counseled P, but told him several times that they needed to draw blood to find out what was going on with him and he repeatedly refused. More lawyer's fees out the window! Thanks for the link! [Edited 8/2/18 12:46pm]

Exactly, it doesn't make sense.

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Reply #858 posted 08/02/18 7:48pm

paulludvig

Bodhitheblackdog said:



Camileyun said:


paulludvig said:
The police concluded that he didn't know he was taking Fentanyl, so thst wasn't something "he just decided to do."

Dr.D would disagree with you.

co-sign...you're on fire Camileyun!

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #859 posted 08/02/18 7:49pm

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Camileyun said:

paulludvig said:
"Dr.D" is a tabloid news "source"
Do you know that for a "fact"? wink [Edited 8/2/18 12:30pm]

Dr. D also painted a picture of Prince's drug use about 48 hours after he died that has proven true point after point....even though when his interview was first published fans (and others) were shocked, horrified, laughed at his "BS", stated positively that none of it could be true and he didn't know what he was talking about...well, well, well...Dr. D now knows that 'revenge is a dish best eaten cold.'

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Reply #860 posted 08/02/18 7:49pm

paulludvig

Bodhitheblackdog said:



Camileyun said:


paulludvig said:
The police concluded that he didn't know he was taking Fentanyl, so thst wasn't something "he just decided to do."

Dr.D would disagree with you.

co-sign...you're on fire Camileyun!



Dr.D would disagree with me on what the LE concluded? lol
[Edited 8/2/18 12:54pm]
The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #861 posted 08/02/18 7:50pm

NotACleverName

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Bodhitheblackdog said:



NotACleverName said:


peggyon said:

thank you


I was thinking the same thing, peggy. Skipper reminds me so much of another poster who has been absent from the forum lately. Purplerabbithole has such a similar posting style to Skipper that it is absolutely uncanny. Some I noticed are....responding at the top of prev post, two cap ltrs on select words (such as "PRince"...electronic devices notice and copy styles of user's writing) and finally, long, frequent posts. Eh....what do I know? I just lurk every day and post infrequently.

Yep...you're on to it...


wink

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Reply #862 posted 08/02/18 7:52pm

paulludvig

Bodhitheblackdog said:



Camileyun said:


paulludvig said:
"Dr.D" is a tabloid news "source"

Do you know that for a "fact"? wink [Edited 8/2/18 12:30pm]

Dr. D also painted a picture of Prince's drug use about 48 hours after he died that has proven true point after point....even though when his interview was first published fans (and others) were shocked, horrified, laughed at his "BS", stated positively that none of it could be true and he didn't know what he was talking about...well, well, well...Dr. D now knows that 'revenge is a dish best eaten cold.'



What exactly has proven true point after point? And please try to keep separate what has actually been proven and what you personally believe to be true.
The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #863 posted 08/02/18 7:53pm

paulludvig

Camileyun said:

paulludvig said:



"Dr.D" is a tabloid news "source"


Do you know that for a "fact"? wink
[Edited 8/2/18 12:30pm]


Eh.. yes? Where did you read about Dr.D? In a tabloid, right?
The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #864 posted 08/02/18 7:54pm

Camileyun

paulludvig said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:



Camileyun said:


paulludvig said:
The police concluded that he didn't know he was taking Fentanyl, so thst wasn't something "he just decided to do."

Dr.D would disagree with you.

co-sign...you're on fire Camileyun!



Dr.D would disagree with me on whst the LE concluded? lol


I'm gonna' go with "yes" on this one.
cool
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Reply #865 posted 08/02/18 7:57pm

Camileyun

paulludvig said:

Camileyun said:



Do you know that for a "fact"? wink
[Edited 8/2/18 12:30pm]


Eh.. yes? Where did you read about Dr.D? In a tabloid, right?


Ha, they're probably the only ones who would pay him for his story...He's a drug dealer!
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Reply #866 posted 08/02/18 7:59pm

paulludvig

Camileyun said:

paulludvig said:



Dr.D would disagree with me on whst the LE concluded? lol


I'm gonna' go with "yes" on this one.
cool


We might be talking about different things. Would Dr.D disagree that the LE has concluded that Prince didn't know he was given Fentanyl? I am not saying that D necessarily agrees with that conclusion, but is he thinking that the LE concluded something else?
[Edited 8/2/18 13:00pm]
The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #867 posted 08/02/18 8:01pm

paulludvig

Camileyun said:

paulludvig said:



Eh.. yes? Where did you read about Dr.D? In a tabloid, right?


Ha, they're probably the only ones who would pay him for his story...He's a drug dealer!


That doesn't exactly strenghten his credibility.
The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #868 posted 08/02/18 8:08pm

Bodhitheblackd
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paulludvig said:

Camileyun said:
I'm gonna' go with "yes" on this one. cool
We might be talking about different things. Would Dr.D disagree that the LE has concluded that Prince didn't know he was given Fentanyl? I am not saying that D necessarily agrees with that conclusion, but is he thinking that the LE concluded something else? [Edited 8/2/18 13:00pm]

WHERE is it written that LE "concluded" that Prince didn't know he was ''given"Fentanyl???..or to put it another way: was taking Fentanyl that he had been accustomed to taking/ordering/buying illegally for years.

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Reply #869 posted 08/02/18 8:09pm

Camileyun

paulludvig said:

Camileyun said:



I'm gonna' go with "yes" on this one.
cool


We might be talking about different things. Would Dr.D disagree that the LE has concluded that Prince didn't know he was given Fentanyl? I am not saying that D necessarily agrees with that conclusion, but is he thinking that the LE concluded something else?
[Edited 8/2/18 13:00pm]


confuse I'm not following, but his article came out prior to the LE's conclusion, so I don't know what he thinks now. Not sure I'm answering your question.
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