onlyforaminute said:

peggyon said:

Skipper-I wonder if you can allow for other voices? I am feeling overwhelmed by the frequency and intensity of your posts. Can you sit back a bit? You seem rather new to the forum but I feel you have taken over and it is making me want to avoid this thread.

PennyPurple said:

nelcp777 said:

CatB said: According to this log report, PP had some form of security monitoring in 2015, as references were made to an alarm company.

Great point Nelcp!

Good catch!

I think this means they know when KJ and Meron left PP that night, and then if anyone else came on to the premises.

If I recall correctly, the inside monitoring was turned off years before.

Yes, thank you for allowing me to speak here at all. I mean who am I to have my view of things, having been there and all, still trying to find answers myself. I will go back and sit in my silent corner and let the experts do the talk. Sorry.

SkipperLove said:

Maybe. But, there were some crazy fans who sent pubic hair to PRince (Jill JOnes's story) and have tried to scale his fence. Some will definitely jump through some hoops. Another possibility is that the person was legit, was telling the truth but got the drug of choice wrong. I just can't see PRicne being on the pain pills his assistant talked about at the same time as having a full scale cocaine problem. I just can't see how he could have functioned at all with those two concurrent problems. And his home didn't have cocaine in it as far as I remember.

I hope people were trying to make calls. But without evidence, cops can't do anything. But thank you for your point about it being hard to get stuff through PRince's head.

CatB said:

Sure but one could also ask why someone would go to such length and make such a call? To what purpose? You know many say now why has nobody done anything, why did they all look the other way? While that woman might have been one to try to do something? What if there was no other way for her? You couldn't tell P to his face if he had a problem or was doing something stupid. You just couldn't. He was always right. And you don't need to watch someone doing lines to tell. There are signs in behavior that can show you. Especially when you are using too or when you work in the industry. It is a common thing there, I've been offered it too, like it was nothing. It scared me.

facedown20160421 said:

(Apologies for the delay - had to go back to Carver documents to find information. I will try and cite the information sources from here on in.)

For more info see Prince's Death Investigation: Part 11" page 34

1. Agree - Prince was a tyrant. You did what he said or you were out.

2. Agree - Prince was secretive.

3. If Prince had allowed doctors to examine him and directly requested prescriptions for the prescription drugs he needed, perhaps he would still be alive. (Unless someone wanted him dead.)

4. Some people are hoping that the real Prince is not actually dead. Sorry, but if you look closely at photos all the way from the first album 'For Youî period through to the death scene you will see the same ears and hands, and in particular the same thumb joint. It is all the same man. For those who think the real Prince died after Parade/Under the Cherry Moon, examine the ears and hands all the way through and you will see it is the same man. (With plastic surgery to make one person look like another, they focus on the face. The hands and ears in particular are very unique and usually not part of any plastic surgery.)

5. Rooms in Paisley Park are messy in the investigation photos partly because they are performing searches and going through boxes to search for things. So when I see a box of things turned out in the investigation photos I think it is probably due to the investigation. I donít think things would usually have been lying scattered all over the floor (like in the room with the washing machine and P's clothes). I donít think this means the place was not being cleaned regularly.

6. In Investigative Reports #1 page 14 it says swabs for DNA were taken from P's hands and neck items #14,15,16 - I think this is to see if anyone left their DNA on P. I couldnít find the test results for these swabs in the files. (I don't believe the story of KJ dressing P so that he would not be found naked because I know one person can leave DNA on another person and it can be found, so to me it would not have been worth KJ risking leaving DNA on P's body just to dress him.) I wonder if it is standard practice to look for another personís DNA and whether they found anything.

7. Investigative Reports #2 page 59 pt 122 mentions the clothes discarded in the bathroom and they did not appear to have vomit on them (NOTE: THEY WERE ALSO LOOKING FOR VOMIT). The clothes were to be tested but I can't find any test results for these items. (The overlapping numbering of items in the various reports makes it difficult to track down all the items and associated findings.)

8. 20160426 swabs from elevator were taken. Description can be found in Investigative Reports #2 page 19. 'The pattern seen on the metal showed that the liquid substance ran down the metal and there was a small pool of the dried liquid on the floor of the elevator.î

9. Vomit in airways was noted by paramedics and is mentioned in Investigative Reports #1 page 78 pt 14-16. Elsewhere P isnít eating much but probably drinking the grape juice and water so for the vomit to be liquid fits with this (no chunky food present).

10. If a person takes a tablet and feels unwell then they may try to vomit and bring it up. But by this point the tablet needs to have dissolved and be in the stomach, and therefore the drug should show up in the vomit if it is true that the drug was ingested.

11. Investigative Reports #2 page 54 pt 103 - a high amount of Fentanyl in P's blood from the autopsy 67.8 mcg/l, (compared to a cancer patient using a fentanyl patch with 3-5 mcg/l). Urine tests from the autopsy also show Oxycodone and Hydrocodone.Investigative Reports #1 page 39 pt 66 Medical Examiner informs of the fentanyl in P's blood and asks about nasal sprays at the scene. The officers return to PP to retrieve nasal sprays and eye drops, but the reports indicate no fentanyl found on those items from PP.

It is interesting that the medical examiner Dr Strobl is looking for evidence of the drug being administered by a NASAL SPRAY. Perhaps this is due to the extremely high levels found in P's blood in the autopsy - that the high levels would reflect the use of a nasal spray and NOT a tablet. The reports do not make it clear how many of the fake Watson 853 tablets P would need to take in order to achieve the very high levels of fentanyl in his blood. Other people in this forum have pointed out that fentanyl can be delivered by a nasal spray for assassination purposes. I wonder, once it has been inhaled and is in the blood stream, if it will seep into the stomach and thus that fentanyl will also be detected in the stomach.On the other hand, once Dr Strobl find out the various nasal sprays at PP do not show signs of fentanyl, and the fake Vicodin (Watson 853) pills found all over the place are going to be blamed for the 'accidental overdose', then the narrative requires fentanyl to also be present in the stomach test. The autopsy reports take weeks allowing time to say the stomach also tested positive for fentanyl. (Also see point 18&19 below).

12. In the various bottles there are many half tablets, but often the half tablets are not tested for fentanyl. Since Princeís tests on 20160420 and 20160421 test positive for hydrocodone then perhaps this was because some of the half tablets were real Vicodin and this is what he had been taking on those days. However the test on 20160420 shows

-hydrocodone 253ng/ml.

-hydromorphone 87 ng/l.

And the hydromorphone might be Dilaudid, but there is no evidence of any tablets containing hydromorphone in any of the evidence.Now remember that KJ had 'cleaned outî PP when he left P on 20160420 and I think he would have removed not only alcohol, but any prescription type drug that he knew of in PP. And this is probably why we see no Dilaudid at PP.

13. Investigative Reports #2 page 56 pt 106 - 20160420 P appointment with Dr S. 'Pt is a 57 y.o. male who presents with a friend today for feeling antsy. Symptoms started today. He thinks it might be related to stopping Tylenol, the last of which he took this morning. When questioned if the Tylenol contains other ingredients he stated that he did not know. There has been no nausea or vomiting. He has not had any of the neurologic symptoms he had the last time I had seen him. Denies any pain except some mild discomfort in the hip. No diarrhea. Just feeling antsy, anxious and need of something calming. Feels some IVF may help to restore balance. He is open to having some labs done today and expressed concerns about his adrenal glands due to persistent fatigue. Some hoarseness and weakness to his voice. Mild shakiness but no overt tremors. No fevers. No URI symptoms. No cough. No chest pain. No shortness of breath. No palpitations.îInvestigative Reports #2 page 56 pt 107&108 - 20160420 test results - tested positive for opiates, both Hydrocodone (253ng/ml) and Hydromorphone (87ng/ml). No fentanyl.

14. 'Antsyî and symptoms of opiate withdrawal. Narcan/Naloxone is what P was given at Moline, and Buprenophine/Suboxone is what the recovery centre guy Andrew Kornfield had on him. Both work to interfere with opiates and bring on opiate withdrawal symptoms. Dr S says on 20160420 that P was experiencing opiate withdrawal symptoms and P was looking for something to calm him down. He asked for IV fluids. He also asked if the prescription drugs being prescribed could be given intravenously. Dilaudid may be given intravenously so maybe Dilaudid is what he really wanted. Maybe the person visiting him on the evening of 20160420-21 said they were going to bring him Dilaudid and instead put him down.

15. Given this, on 20160420 I donít think P would have reached for the medication that sent him to the emergency room a week earlier (based on the narrative they are trying to sell us).

16. Prince is experiencing MILD hip pain. Donít think he would have needed to use the elevator. In the video at the doctorís office he is walking pretty well. On 20160420 to Dr S there is no mention of the hand pain or pain in his lower right leg.

Note that his cane is in the yellow office (in the photos). If P was in the office and feeling unwell and needed to get to a phone, then the closest landline phone is in that room, and there is also one in his green bedroom. (The other landline phone mentioned is in the kitchen which is downstairs.) There are bathrooms upstairs. I donít see any reason for P to go downstairs. If he was in tremendous pain (doubled over in agony) wouldnít he use his cane to get around? So to be found dead in an elevator on a day from an overdose of pain medication when his hip wasnít causing much pain is strange, unlikely even.

17. His jacket and gloves that he wore on 20160420 were on the floor in the corridor outside the yellow room (office with the upright piano). If he took these off soon after he went to 'his side of townî (around 8pm on 20160420) then I guess we just have to believe that he left them there in the corridor. If a person is feeling really unwell (or perhaps just a bit absent minded) they may leave items randomly on the floor as they wander through their home.

18. Investigative Reports #2 page 97 pt 345 - BCA (Bureau for Criminal Apprehension) 'could not conduct a quantitative test which would determine how much (the quantity) of the pill contained fentanyl and lidocaine. For this reason, Item #40 was released to the DEA for additional testing to determine the quantity of fentanyl vs lidocaine. From this the DEA indicated NO OTHER CASES with the same tabletsî (Investigative Reports #2 page 100 pt 367) - in other words anyone else who might have taken this pill didnít end up in the emergency room or dead. And Prince is taking one or two pills only (also note how many half tablets are in his prescription medication bottles - lots). So as mentioned before I believe these tablets were manufactured either to trick P into taking them to bring about his death, or to leave all over PP to make it look like P was a hardcore drug addict. But now that Iíve been reminded of Dr Stroblís question (point 11 above) I'm leaning towards the tablets being planted to frame P. By not stating how many tablets would be needed to achieve the extremely high level of fentanyl in P's blood from the autopsy, I am doubtful that P took these pills and another way of administering fentanyl (like a nasal spray) was intentionally given to him by a person who intended to kill him on 20160420-21.

19. The DEA looked at phone numbers, credit card statements and packages delivered to PP and could not identify where the counterfeit pills were from. If the DEA had access to all that information, no wonder the Sherriffís office didnít push harder for access to similar information. But this also suggests that the pills didnít arrive at PP through Prince, any of his staff or any of their connections. In other words, the absence of evidence is more proof that the tablets were planted.

20. Meantime on P's computer he performed no searches to find out more about these drugs (they looked between the period 20150314 and 20160423). Instead from the Dr S information we know P was concerned about fatigue and his adrenals, and P also told his chef to not use canola oil due to concern about his adrenals.

21. Investigative Reports #2 page 55 pt 104 - 20160407 Dr S says P 'Feels like pins and needles but does not seem to be waking up like he would expect.' Everyone describes P as someone who doesnít sleep much.

22. Statement Transcripts page 149 -Judith Hill says P said "I enjoy sleeping more these days".

23. Did P know there was morphine in his blood? Is it possible someone had been giving him something to slow him down a bit?

24. In 1996 Oprah asks why Prince lives in Minneapolis, P answers "The cold keeps the bad people out."

25. In the song 'Annie Christian' Prince says heís going to keep moving "I'll live my life in taxi-cabs" and mentions Reagan and Lennon being shot. Some people may think his relentless pace was because he was chasing something. Perhaps he was also making it difficult for certain people to catch him.

26. Statement Transcripts page 193 - Judith Hill says P would wear a particular tank top inside out. Inside out is different to backwards.Investigative Reports #1 page 77 pt 36 & Investigative Reports #2 page 51 pt 84 says P's clothes were on backwards. Elsewhere:

-T-shirt - on backwards;

-Sweatshirt - on backwards (cut when the paramedics attempted CPR);

-Trackpants - on backwards;-Underwear - on normal (forwards - so they might have been prudish satanists, OR trying to associate the event with satanists and so didnít bother with the underwear);

-Socks - inside out;

-Hat - (doesnít say if it was turned inside out).

If you vomit you donít have to have vomit on your clothes. And his clothes were on BACKWARDS, so even if there was evidence of vomit down his front, then you wonít be able to see it because his clothes were taken off him and put back on him backwards once he was lying down dead.

27. Backwards has significant meaning. Prince was well aware of what things sounded like backward and used this in Purple Rain (movie & soundtrack) many times.

28. For those who think Prince was suicidal, back in 1982 in 'Lady Cab Driver' he says 'Trouble winds are blowing, I'm growin' cold, Get me outta here, I feel I'm gonna die'. He has been concerned about living and dying on many occasions.When asked, Judith Hill thought P might be 'fifty fifty' on the question of being suicidal Statement Transcripts page 172.

29. Investigative Reports #2 page 82 pt 265 - After the emergency landing in Moline, Dr Mancha asks if Prince is suicidal and 'he looked directly at her, made eye contact and said "absolutely not!" '. (Aside: a moment earlier he also said he had not been ill recently.)

30. Remember when Prince wrote 'Slave' on his cheek and everyone said it was to do with his contract, and he would say all kinds of random stuff like 'Iím a slave to the truth'. You could say he was being inconsistent. You could say one of these statements is a lie. But there are times when a thing can have multiple meanings. There is a basic level truth, and then a 'secret truth'. Satanists are also big on 'secret truths'.

31. Prince prided himself on hiding double-meanings in plain sight. People thought he was talking about one thing, but the 'secret truth' was really about something else:

-In 'Let's go crazy' there is a lyric 'Electric word life' - so this is about how we are alive due to electricity flowing through us (think of peopleís heart being restarted by a defibrillator, or just think of Frankensteinís monster 'it's alive'). Sure that sounds good. But there is a deeper meaning.

-There is a round building at Paisley Park. They say it was intended as a place to feed the homeless. If that was the case then that is what it would be used for, but that is misdirection. It had a different use.

-At the end of 'Darliní Nikki' and 'Let's go crazy' P says 'the lord is coming soon' and 'he is coming'. If you think he was talking about Jesus Christ, guess again. And this is the reason he no longer played these songs in full after 2003.

32. In The Guardian 23 Jun 2011 'Prince: I'm a musician. I am music.' Prince is quoted as saying "Time is a mind construct. It's not real." In an interview with Larry King Prince said this again and that he doesnít age because he doesnít celebrate birthdays or focus on age. However music transcends space and time. Many musicians talk about hearing music, as though they are tuned in to another world or place. What if early in his life Prince glimpsed an image of his own death scene? - that he would have an afro and be lying down alone in an elevator. It would certainly explain his dislike of elevators, and he hasnít had an afro since he was a teenager. Then later in life, his choosing to wear an afro, and proceed down a certain path would reflect an acceptance of what might be around the corner. This is not being suicidal. It is a form of acceptance that oneís time might be up.

-For Prince dying at age 57 is good because 5+7 is 12, a good number. 1+2=3 is also ok.

-And dying on 20160421 is also ok, sort of, because that works out as =2+1+6+4+2+1 =16 = 1+6 = 7.

And with the way the world is going perhaps it is a better thing to NOT be around for the next chapter.

To be clear I do NOT believe Prince was suicidal; I do not believe Prince was intentionally taking fentanyl; and I do not believe Prince took fentanyl on 20160420-21 in an attempt to take his own. Life. Instead I believe at least one person visited Prince that night and caused the overdose with the intention of taking Princeís life. And then his clothes were removed and put on backwards to claim this death as a ritual death for satanic purposes. However I also believe Prince had been a committed Christian in the last part of his life.

And let's not forget his last Instragram "Just when you thought you were safe" (deleted soon after his death). Prince did not feel safe. He knew certain people wanted him dead. Prince was not suicidal. Prince was intentionally poisoned.

And with the way the world is going perhaps it is a better thing to NOT be around for the next chapter.

33. I know this sounds like a downer, however Christianís do not fear death because they know where they are going. For certain.So when I think of Prince I think he is very busy preparing for 'let all the choirs and angels sing'.

For more info see Prince's Death Investigation: Part 11" page 34

[Edited 7/29/18 1:02am]

[Edited 7/29/18 1:03am]

Hi. Concerning the round building close to PP I have been there inside after he stopped to work on it. There is an aisle connecting PP to the round building, in the beginning it was intended as a concert arena but Prince changed his mind ad stopped to work on it. After that he put random staff in it and among other there was Prince father bed, the one his father died in ( somebody close to him told me ) and I saw it.

Cocerning Prince pain killer addiction I was told, right after his death, that at least, he was addicted since 1996 and he was trying to keep it under control withuot taking too many pills; I really trust the person who told me.

My personal beliving is he decided by himself to leave this world and his first attempt was on the plane, he was hoping there was no time to take him back to life but the prompt emergency landing saved his life.

Prince believed in God but he never respected all the Jeowa witness enforcement, particularly the one concerning his multiple relathionships with several women in the same time. He always had many sex encounters and long time relationship, but he was the one taking any decision.

CatB said:

SkipperLove said:

I am sorry I offended you.

CatB said:

Yes, thank you for allowing me to speak here at all. I mean who am I to have my view of things, having been there and all, still trying to find answers myself. I will go back and sit in my silent corner and let the experts do the talk. Sorry.

SkipperLove said:

Maybe. But, there were some crazy fans who sent pubic hair to PRince (Jill JOnes's story) and have tried to scale his fence. Some will definitely jump through some hoops. Another possibility is that the person was legit, was telling the truth but got the drug of choice wrong. I just can't see PRicne being on the pain pills his assistant talked about at the same time as having a full scale cocaine problem. I just can't see how he could have functioned at all with those two concurrent problems. And his home didn't have cocaine in it as far as I remember.

I hope people were trying to make calls. But without evidence, cops can't do anything. But thank you for your point about it being hard to get stuff through PRince's head.

CatB said:

Yes, thank you for allowing me to speak here at all. I mean who am I to have my view of things, having been there and all, still trying to find answers myself. I will go back and sit in my silent corner and let the experts do the talk. Sorry.

SkipperLove said:

Maybe. But, there were some crazy fans who sent pubic hair to PRince (Jill JOnes's story) and have tried to scale his fence. Some will definitely jump through some hoops. Another possibility is that the person was legit, was telling the truth but got the drug of choice wrong. I just can't see PRicne being on the pain pills his assistant talked about at the same time as having a full scale cocaine problem. I just can't see how he could have functioned at all with those two concurrent problems. And his home didn't have cocaine in it as far as I remember.

I hope people were trying to make calls. But without evidence, cops can't do anything. But thank you for your point about it being hard to get stuff through PRince's head.

CatB, I greatly appreciate your voice in this conversation. You, unlike the rest of us, have firsthand knowledge of this man and the subject at hand. Thank you for helping us understand.

1Sasha said:

CatB said:

Yes, thank you for allowing me to speak here at all. I mean who am I to have my view of things, having been there and all, still trying to find answers myself. I will go back and sit in my silent corner and let the experts do the talk. Sorry.

Oh no you don't get to run out of here. I enjoy your posts and insight.

Would anyone like to see all of those who helped fulfill Prince's requests to obtain substances illegally go to prison?

rednblue said:

muchtoofast said:

CatB said:

Yes, thank you for allowing me to speak here at all. I mean who am I to have my view of things, having been there and all, still trying to find answers myself. I will go back and sit in my silent corner and let the experts do the talk. Sorry.

When you went out on the town did he seem different than when you two stayed in? Did he seem to need a pick me up of some sort?

Like I've said, I am not an expert. I have never done any drugs myself and I wouldn't even know all the kinds of different substances out there. When we first met him and my friend said Mayte was on she said it because she had been experimenting herself and her circle of friends outside school was alternative musicians. They were all very experimental, not only with their music. So she knew the signs while I didn't. As I got older I did some modeling and there substances seemed to be such a normal thing as if it was candy. It wasn't only the photographers or other models/dancers using it (it helps you stay toned and suppresses appetite) but one photographer who was fed up with just shooting the regular commercial stuff wanted to shoot me in "a pile of cocaine". Not just something that looked like it but the real stuff. And when he was on he'd switch from the gentleman who always protected me from other men's "offers" and assaults to one of them. Coke and sex seems to always come in pairs in that scene and it scared me. I never worked with him again. So I learned to read the signs a bit too, it definitely boosts the ego and makes people arrogant and less empathic.

With Prince, he had always had several different masks and some weren't always nice, so it's hard to say. He was tender and in need of love like a baby but he also needed his space and could be a real bitch. There was a girl who had nightmares for months after he told her to go away in a very colorful language. One associate from his early years said to me he seemed to have changed a lot in the early 90's (which was the time I first met him) and that this was probably caused by drugs. He could be hot and cold and he had an ego (which he knew) and as I've said, although I never witnessed him taking anything I wouldn't dismiss it. I never saw the photographers/models/dancers do the stuff either but that doesn't mean they didn't do it. It was always present, they talked about it and acted the way they did. So not seeing someone do it doesn't mean they aren't doing it. Just as with meds - most people won't take theirs when others are around. Women taking the pill for instance - it's a regular thing and their friends usually know they take it but they won't see them take it.

OperatingThetan said:

SkipperLove said:

So you heard rumors, read Hahn's book and saw behaviors out of Mayte (and possibly Prince) that according to your friend were symptomatic of cocaine usage. I don't know. Maybe. But I still take that phone call with a large grain of salt.

The first Alex Hahn book was little more than a tabloid hatchet job. Much of it is biased and composed of unverifiable rumour and hearsay. It is the equivalent in Prince biographies of believing a story in the National Enquirer.

Yes, that's what I said myself earlier on in this thread:

CatB said:

And that he hasn't attempted suicide in the past.

I've tried to ask before but some people needed the mystery of their 21 April date, that's why I will try again:

Are there any documented records of the aspirin and wine incident? I am not talking of Ronin Ro's or Alex Hahn's book (which is based on hearsay, is not accurate in many points and I wonder what his sources really were - he also asked me about things), nor Mayte's book or the nannies' daytime talk stories?

I mean actual records like the DEA thing we have now?

Again, the people I spoke to had never heard of it, nor that he had heart palpitations.

In other words, did that incident (suicide attempt or not) actually happen?

It's an honest question as I still don't know where the story came from.

SkipperLove said:

I am sorry I offended you.

CatB said:

Yes, thank you for allowing me to speak here at all. I mean who am I to have my view of things, having been there and all, still trying to find answers myself. I will go back and sit in my silent corner and let the experts do the talk. Sorry.

Fair enough. I actually already cringed at your "extremely caucasian" remark in the other thread but I let that slip. You weren't talking about me, I know, but according to your definition I am "extremely caucasian" too and that just doesn't sound good to my ears.

I suggest you just try to keep your mind a little more open. In general. This is a forum, we are all allowed to voice our opinions and share observations. We all just try to understand things and get answers for ourselves. There is no point in you wanting to sort my experiences or my thoughts. That's narrow-minded and won't get us anywhere. It's okay to be critical but it feels like you have to say something to each and every post I make. And like you know things and I don't.

I've never said I had the answers but again, we're all here to understand things better. So maybe just give it a little more room to breathe.

Peace.

CatB said:

1Sasha said:

CatB said:

Yes, thank you for allowing me to speak here at all. I mean who am I to have my view of things, having been there and all, still trying to find answers myself. I will go back and sit in my silent corner and let the experts do the talk. Sorry.

CatB, I greatly appreciate your voice in this conversation. You, unlike the rest of us, have firsthand knowledge of this man and the subject at hand. Thank you for helping us understand.

Thank you. I don't really have firsthand knowledge of the subject at hand, though. Which is his death. I don't know what happened and I'm not sure of I'm the person to help you understand when I still have so many questions myself...

We're all in this together.

@Penny - ok

OperatingThetan said:

Agreed. It's bugging me also as I was sure there were other sources for the '96 incident and remember it being reported at the time, but can't find or recall what or where. I've been participanting on this site for 20 years and often recall stories and events from that period that are subsequently difficult to verify.

Whatever, I appreciate your contribution and unique perspective. Many here had either forgotten or weren't aware of who Alex Hahn was, his (biased) background and agenda and motive in writing his original book. After the publication of that book he vanished here only to resurface just after Prince died, self-publishing a new edition. * [Edited 8/2/18 6:21am] [Edited 8/2/18 6:23am]

That's cool you've been around for so long. You will sure remember things from back then that I've never even heard of, and that's what I mean when I say we're all in this together.

About Alex Hahn I am in two minds. For the sake of traveling back in my own memory and remembering Prince I enjoyed reading his book after his passing. And I'm also FB friends with Alex. However, I noticed soon that some things don't add up and after he also asked me and after his partner friended me before the latest edition came out and then unfriended me again I had a feeling that they get their info from lot of hearsay and some of the things I read in the book that were "shared by the associates" I heard differently from those very associates myself.

So as always - keep an open mind as there are also other perspectives.

CatB said:

CatB said:

onlyforaminute said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

precioux said:

Is there a way to get a hold of the DEA files wih/without an FOIA filing?

No can do.

It's still an open investigation with the DEA.

...then what just happened?

muchtoofast said:

You’ve said twice now that your friend thought Mayte was using cocaine back when you first met her and Prince in the early 90’s. You also seem to be implying that since there are no videos of or police or medical records that the wine and pill incident mentioned in Mayte’s book didn’t really happen. I’m going to call you on your hypocrisy as you have no proof either of them were doing cocaine but you have no hesitation going on and on about this on the biggest Prince fan site there is. For the benefit of the uninitiated I think it’s fair to state you had a brief affair with him while he was married to Mayte. You won’t deny that at this stage of the game. No amount of Mayte bashing by you will ever make that betrayal of another woman acceptable to lots of other women. This isn’t the Mayte death thread after all, and if you discuss her on this thread I might discuss how a happier wife and marriage might have kept him free from substance abuse. Happy as in free from side chicks.

I don't see where she's ever knocked Mayte. Mayte is being discussed because of the wine and 'aspirin' incident. We will discuss any associate and their role, if any into this thread. You are a little too new here to be asserting yourself in a forcible manner as above. It's not up to you to dictate who and who can not be mentioned.

Quite frankly, he had drug problems way before, during and after Mayte. Things are starting to come out and and the pieces are being put together.

onlyforaminute said:

Well seems weird to me that a coke addict wouldn't have a stash of coke to be found by the authorities but have a stash of just as illegal pills. What, the associates knew to toss the coke but couldn't figure out how to unzip a carry on case to toss the pills? With the earlier reports literally in newspaper form, that came out when all this hit the fan it was reported that Prince was up for what amounted to days, just like people said he did when he was young full of vigor and hungry, as he has said in interviews, so as an old guy he would definitely need artificial substances if he needed them when he was young. That is very odd he can do that naturally old but needed "help" when young, very very odd indeed.

Nobody is saying that he was doing coke recently before he passed.

OperatingThetan said:

Agreed. It's bugging me also as I was sure there were other sources for the '96 incident and remember it being reported at the time, but can't find or recall what or where. I've been participanting on this site for 20 years and often recall stories and events from that period that are subsequently difficult to verify. Whatever, I appreciate your contribution and unique perspective. Many here had either forgotten or weren't aware of who Alex Hahn was, his (biased) background and agenda and motive in writing his original book. After the publication of that book he vanished here only to resurface just after Prince died, self-publishing a new edition. * [Edited 8/2/18 6:21am] [Edited 8/2/18 6:23am]

Didn't his bodyguard take him to the hospital to get his stomach pumped, then called Mayte and told her where he was at? This was the 'aspirin' and wine incident.

PennyPurple said: