violetcrush said:

PennyPurple said:

You quoted Menes, yet mention me?

You're actually connected to that post - you know, that "double-teaming" action...616 of the 618 posts, blah, blah, blah.....

Then learn how to quote.

Rebeljuice said:

disch said:

I'm confused -- I'm not the one insisting it's important; you are. So why don't you share what you've found (and what you conclude about it) instead of falling back on cryptic language and demanding that others research for you?

Because he is a knob head who thinks he is cleverer than he is. The pseudo intellectual scribblings of a lonely nerd whose internet persona brings him feelings of overwhelming superiority. In real life? A waste of space.

Right Rebel and disch. More rambling from those who think they know more than the rest, and insist on creating their own account of the investigation that was done. Nothing more than a layman's opinion with little or no validity.

PennyPurple said:

violetcrush said:

You're actually connected to that post - you know, that "double-teaming" action...616 of the 618 posts, blah, blah, blah.....

Then learn how to quote.

Whatever you need to make you feel more important....

1Sasha said:

TrevorAyer said:

Isn’t suicide stricly forbidden in the christian jw religion? Are you suggesting that the prince religious persona was as fake as the anti drug persona?

Organized religions prohibit a lot of things. But Prince, being Prince, was going to do whatever the hell he wanted to do, when he wanted to do it. I don't know if he was under the JW spell toward the end of his life. Some people said he wasn't. Who knows?

You hit the nail on the head there Sasha.....who knows?? Nobody will ever know - we will never know what exactly Prince was thinking in the hours prior to his death. We will never know exactly what, or how many pills he injested prior to his death. Because he was alone. Prince would be the only one to give us those answers, and he is now resting peacefully.

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violetcrush said:

Rebeljuice said:

Because he is a knob head who thinks he is cleverer than he is. The pseudo intellectual scribblings of a lonely nerd whose internet persona brings him feelings of overwhelming superiority. In real life? A waste of space.

Right Rebel and disch. More rambling from those who think they know more than the rest, and insist on creating their own account of the investigation that was done. Nothing more than a layman's opinion with little or no validity.

Hell, at least they've read the investigation files and listened to the interviews, and have participated waaay before Part 1 of this discussion.....and I'm not speaking of disch.

Your late to the party violet, catch up.

violetcrush said:

Rebeljuice said:

Because he is a knob head who thinks he is cleverer than he is. The pseudo intellectual scribblings of a lonely nerd whose internet persona brings him feelings of overwhelming superiority. In real life? A waste of space.

Right Rebel and disch. More rambling from those who think they know more than the rest, and insist on creating their own account of the investigation that was done. Nothing more than a layman's opinion with little or no validity.

I'm not sure I understand? You are quite right when you say that the only person who could speak with validity about Prince, was Prince. And he is no longer here as we all know. So really, everyone here is a "layman", no? isn't a discussion group like this meant for people to exchange ideas, observations, questions, theories? For myself, I had many questions arise in my mind as I read through the investigative team's reports - I didn't form any opinion that I knew more than anyone else - but I certainly did have a few "huh??" moments. The case is closed, but I for one think it's great that folks have a place to exchange thoughts like this. I don't think it needs to be a competition in any way - I think we all understand that nothing said here is going to change the conclusions drawn by the investigation. It's just interesting to hear others' points of view IMO.

PennyPurple said:

violetcrush said:

Right Rebel and disch. More rambling from those who think they know more than the rest, and insist on creating their own account of the investigation that was done. Nothing more than a layman's opinion with little or no validity.

Hell, at least they've read the investigation files and listened to the interviews, and have participated waaay before Part 1 of this discussion.....and I'm not speaking of disch.

Your late to the party violet, catch up.

Catching up to what???? The "maybe he did this....maybe he did that..." information? I believe these bits of information would be called theories, opinions, thoughts, etc. and have been written by no one directly involved in the investigation, nor would they be considered viable in determining what actually occured. I believe facts and concrete evidence are requred there. But, by all means, continue to conjure up theories and tales of what might have occured that night. Prince would so appreciate that...

violetcrush said:

PennyPurple said:

Hell, at least they've read the investigation files and listened to the interviews, and have participated waaay before Part 1 of this discussion.....and I'm not speaking of disch.

Your late to the party violet, catch up.

Catching up to what???? The "maybe he did this....maybe he did that..." information? I believe these bits of information would be called theories, opinions, thoughts, etc. and have been written by no one directly involved in the investigation, nor would they be considered viable in determining what actually occured. I believe facts and concrete evidence are requred there. But, by all means, continue to conjure up theories and tales of what might have occured that night. Prince would so appreciate that...

And you have what?...facts? We were discussing the facts in the documentation, til everybody started going everywhich way with the women and elvis and bruce lee, songs, etc, etc, etc.

And if you are so worried what Prince might appreciate or not, why are you here?

Nola said:

I'm not sure I understand? You are quite right when you say that the only person who could speak with validity about Prince, was Prince. And he is no longer here as we all know. So really, everyone here is a "layman", no? isn't a discussion group like this meant for people to exchange ideas, observations, questions, theories? For myself, I had many questions arise in my mind as I read through the investigative team's reports - I didn't form any opinion that I knew more than anyone else - but I certainly did have a few "huh??" moments. The case is closed, but I for one think it's great that folks have a place to exchange thoughts like this. I don't think it needs to be a competition in any way - I think we all understand that nothing said here is going to change the conclusions drawn by the investigation. It's just interesting to hear others' points of view IMO.

Very true Nola.

Nola said:

violetcrush said:

Right Rebel and disch. More rambling from those who think they know more than the rest, and insist on creating their own account of the investigation that was done. Nothing more than a layman's opinion with little or no validity.

I'm not sure I understand? You are quite right when you say that the only person who could speak with validity about Prince, was Prince. And he is no longer here as we all know. So really, everyone here is a "layman", no? isn't a discussion group like this meant for people to exchange ideas, observations, questions, theories? For myself, I had many questions arise in my mind as I read through the investigative team's reports - I didn't form any opinion that I knew more than anyone else - but I certainly did have a few "huh??" moments. The case is closed, but I for one think it's great that folks have a place to exchange thoughts like this. I don't think it needs to be a competition in any way - I think we all understand that nothing said here is going to change the conclusions drawn by the investigation. It's just interesting to hear others' points of view IMO.

There are "huh?" moments, because Prince was alone when he died. He did not leave a written note of his thoughts prior to his death, and it was confirmed he had been dead for several hours prior to his camp arriving on the scene. There will always be questions with a death like this, and critical comments about the investigation as well. The point I was trying to make is that everyone will have their own theories on exactly how, when, where, and why he died the way he did. However, the facts that we have remain the same. As I mentioned in a prior post, had he not been given emergency treatment in Moline - if they had continued the plane ride - he would have died that night.

violetcrush said:

PennyPurple said:

Hell, at least they've read the investigation files and listened to the interviews, and have participated waaay before Part 1 of this discussion.....and I'm not speaking of disch.

Your late to the party violet, catch up.

Catching up to what???? The "maybe he did this....maybe he did that..." information? I believe these bits of information would be called theories, opinions, thoughts, etc. and have been written by no one directly involved in the investigation, nor would they be considered viable in determining what actually occured. I believe facts and concrete evidence are requred there. But, by all means, continue to conjure up theories and tales of what might have occured that night. Prince would so appreciate that...

But Violet, don't you see that even you are seeming to know what Prince would or would not 'appreciate', but you're not him either, therefore you are expressing your opinion! This is exactly what the group chat is about, isn't it? Opinions, thoughts, questions, observstions, exchanges. I think it's fine to disagree with the opinions of others in any kind of discussion, but no one in this particular discussion is an expert on the thoughts, motivations, or actions of Prince. The only true expert on Prince is gone. But clearly, people still have plenty to say and ponder over, so I think this is a great forum in which to do so.

violetcrush said:

Nola said:

I'm not sure I understand? You are quite right when you say that the only person who could speak with validity about Prince, was Prince. And he is no longer here as we all know. So really, everyone here is a "layman", no? isn't a discussion group like this meant for people to exchange ideas, observations, questions, theories? For myself, I had many questions arise in my mind as I read through the investigative team's reports - I didn't form any opinion that I knew more than anyone else - but I certainly did have a few "huh??" moments. The case is closed, but I for one think it's great that folks have a place to exchange thoughts like this. I don't think it needs to be a competition in any way - I think we all understand that nothing said here is going to change the conclusions drawn by the investigation. It's just interesting to hear others' points of view IMO.

There are "huh?" moments, because Prince was alone when he died. He did not leave a written note of his thoughts prior to his death, and it was confirmed he had been dead for several hours prior to his camp arriving on the scene. There will always be questions with a death like this, and critical comments about the investigation as well. The point I was trying to make is that everyone will have their own theories on exactly how, when, where, and why he died the way he did. However, the facts that we have remain the same. As I mentioned in a prior post, had he not been given emergency treatment in Moline - if they had continued the plane ride - he would have died that night.

Yes, exactly right. (Well...I'm not 100% convinced about the 'no note' part - if someone on his staff (or a family member) thought they had the right to erase potentially critical information from his computer, they may well have thought it was in Prince's best interest (legacy-wise) to help themselves to any written note found on that day and destroy it). Theory.

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PennyPurple said:

violetcrush said:

Catching up to what???? The "maybe he did this....maybe he did that..." information? I believe these bits of information would be called theories, opinions, thoughts, etc. and have been written by no one directly involved in the investigation, nor would they be considered viable in determining what actually occured. I believe facts and concrete evidence are requred there. But, by all means, continue to conjure up theories and tales of what might have occured that night. Prince would so appreciate that...

And you have what?...facts? We were discussing the facts in the documentation, til everybody started going everywhich way with the women and elvis and bruce lee, songs, etc, etc, etc.

And if you are so worried what Prince might appreciate or not, why are you here?

Right, and the reason the discussion turns to other aspects of his life, reasons for taking drugs, emotional trauma, physical pain, comparisons to other musicians, etc...is because we already have the facts in the case. WE KNOW HOW HE DIED. So, any other information becomes theory, opinion, conjecture - ie: forming an opinion on the basis of incomplete information.

Nola said:

violetcrush said:

Catching up to what???? The "maybe he did this....maybe he did that..." information? I believe these bits of information would be called theories, opinions, thoughts, etc. and have been written by no one directly involved in the investigation, nor would they be considered viable in determining what actually occured. I believe facts and concrete evidence are requred there. But, by all means, continue to conjure up theories and tales of what might have occured that night. Prince would so appreciate that...

But Violet, don't you see that even you are seeming to know what Prince would or would not 'appreciate', but you're not him either, therefore you are expressing your opinion! This is exactly what the group chat is about, isn't it? Opinions, thoughts, questions, observstions, exchanges. I think it's fine to disagree with the opinions of others in any kind of discussion, but no one in this particular discussion is an expert on the thoughts, motivations, or actions of Prince. The only true expert on Prince is gone. But clearly, people still have plenty to say and ponder over, so I think this is a great forum in which to do so.

I get it. But then the thread should be "Theories On Why Prince Took Opioids" or "Prince's Death: Suicide Or Accident?" Because this has nothing to do with the facts or the investigation.

violetcrush said:

Nola said:

But Violet, don't you see that even you are seeming to know what Prince would or would not 'appreciate', but you're not him either, therefore you are expressing your opinion! This is exactly what the group chat is about, isn't it? Opinions, thoughts, questions, observstions, exchanges. I think it's fine to disagree with the opinions of others in any kind of discussion, but no one in this particular discussion is an expert on the thoughts, motivations, or actions of Prince. The only true expert on Prince is gone. But clearly, people still have plenty to say and ponder over, so I think this is a great forum in which to do so.

I get it. But then the thread should be "Theories On Why Prince Took Opioids" or "Prince's Death: Suicide Or Accident?" Because this has nothing to do with the facts or the investigation.

?? I'm still not following you entirely. The thread is 'Prince's Death Investigation Discussion'. If the discussion was only limited to the facts reported by the investigation itself and the conclusion drawn by the investigators that this was an accidental fentanyl overdose, period, then what would there be to discuss? People could really only then agree with the conclusions of the investigators, agree that the case is closed, and that there is nothing more to see here. Yet, it seems that there are 9 previous parts to this conversation (I haven't figured out how to access them yet), so people clearly have a lot of thoughts on these matters. Re-naming the threads would not change that. You have a nice day Violet...something tells me you and I aren't going to connect very well and that's ok...each to their own.

I posted this but it got lost a couple of posts back.

I think the paramedics decided to resuscitate Prince because of the warmth of his skin.(Heating system) Once resuscitation began they noted his rigor.

Often emergency crews begin resuscitation and need to call in their findings to an MD who will provide more guidance/decisions. They may have acted more conservatively as this was a high profile case.

Regarding the "vomit" on the control panels in the elevator: I should be more accurate; it looked like some kind of fluid that dripped down the wall and pooled...saliva before actual vomit??

As Penny mentioned, he did have vomit in his mouth and he could have more on his clothing.

I think K&M likely turned the clothes inside out to make him more presentable as the media would be photographing (This was Purplerabbithole's hypothesis and it feels best to me)

Paramedics were called afterwards

Nola said:

violetcrush said:

I get it. But then the thread should be "Theories On Why Prince Took Opioids" or "Prince's Death: Suicide Or Accident?" Because this has nothing to do with the facts or the investigation.

?? I'm still not following you entirely. The thread is 'Prince's Death Investigation Discussion'. If the discussion was only limited to the facts reported by the investigation itself and the conclusion drawn by the investigators that this was an accidental fentanyl overdose, period, then what would there be to discuss? People could really only then agree with the conclusions of the investigators, agree that the case is closed, and that there is nothing more to see here. Yet, it seems that there are 9 previous parts to this conversation (I haven't figured out how to access them yet), so people clearly have a lot of thoughts on these matters. Re-naming the threads would not change that. You have a nice day Violet...something tells me you and I aren't going to connect very well and that's ok...each to their own.

My issue is that there have been critiques regarding the nature of other posts here. Criticisms about comparing his drug use or death to those of other musicians, reasons why he took the drugs, his emotional frame of mind throughout his ife, etc. If this is truly an open discussion then no one should be faulted for their posts. Furthermore, when discussing his history and emotional/psychological health it is inevitable that the discussion may at times veer toward relationships with his family, friends, women, etc. It is inevitable that comments will morph closer or further away from the actual time of his death, depending on the nature of what is being discussed as it relates to his life in general in connection to the drugs.

peggyon said:

I posted this but it got lost a couple of posts back.

I think the paramedics decided to resuscitate Prince because of the warmth of his skin.(Heating system) Once resuscitation began they noted his rigor.

Often emergency crews begin resuscitation and need to call in their findings to an MD who will provide more guidance/decisions. They may have acted more conservatively as this was a high profile case.

Regarding the "vomit" on the control panels in the elevator: I should be more accurate; it looked like some kind of fluid that dripped down the wall and pooled...saliva before actual vomit??

As Penny mentioned, he did have vomit in his mouth and he could have more on his clothing.

I think K&M likely turned the clothes inside out to make him more presentable as the media would be photographing (This was Purplerabbithole's hypothesis and it feels best to me)

Paramedics were called afterwards

I respectfully disagree. I can't picture K&M finding Prince DEAD, internalizing that fact that PRINCE IS DEAD...and then being able to (OR EVEN INTERESTED IN )wrangle his stiff body out of and back into clothes?!?while screaming, being hysterical, hyper-ventilating, crying, praying, cursing...whatever. I think any normal person would pull out a phone and call 911.....at that point, it was obvious that his 'vanity' needed to take a back seat to reality.

Also, if there was biological fluid inside his clothes, it would have been located, analyized and identified.....Penny: were his clothes analyized for chemistry/drugs/vomit/blood, etc? Were any results published?

So glad the thread is back on track!

TrevorAyer said:

Why would the two be mutually exclusive?
Religious people become depressed and/in enough pain to commit suicide too.
Don’t people GET this type of thing?!
SIGH

1Sasha said:

He was not UNDER any spell.
Being one of Jehova’s Witnesses was his RELIGION of choice.
It was PART of his SPIRITUAL life, which GREW and GREW and GREW.
It was NOT one or the other.

1Sasha said:

I’m just sayin ... for a guy that spelled out doctrine on albums include page and verse numbers as lyrics ... for a guy who appeared to have a pretty devote take on his religion even on his worst behavior .. it seams odd to throw away his belief in the after life by defying a rule that in doing so, apparently keeps you out of heaven

Nola said:

So do you think Prince discussed what he was going to do prior with his people and told them to make it look like something else or they took it upon themselves to cover it up?

Bodhitheblackdog said:

peggyon said:

I posted this but it got lost a couple of posts back.

I think the paramedics decided to resuscitate Prince because of the warmth of his skin.(Heating system) Once resuscitation began they noted his rigor.

Often emergency crews begin resuscitation and need to call in their findings to an MD who will provide more guidance/decisions. They may have acted more conservatively as this was a high profile case.

Regarding the "vomit" on the control panels in the elevator: I should be more accurate; it looked like some kind of fluid that dripped down the wall and pooled...saliva before actual vomit??

As Penny mentioned, he did have vomit in his mouth and he could have more on his clothing.

I think K&M likely turned the clothes inside out to make him more presentable as the media would be photographing (This was Purplerabbithole's hypothesis and it feels best to me)

Paramedics were called afterwards

I respectfully disagree. I can't picture K&M finding Prince DEAD, internalizing that fact that PRINCE IS DEAD...and then being able to (OR EVEN INTERESTED IN )wrangle his stiff body out of and back into clothes?!?while screaming, being hysterical, hyper-ventilating, crying, praying, cursing...whatever. I think any normal person would pull out a phone and call 911.....at that point, it was obvious that his 'vanity' needed to take a back seat to reality.

Also, if there was biological fluid inside his clothes, it would have been located, analyized and identified.....Penny: were his clothes analyized for chemistry/drugs/vomit/blood, etc? Were any results published?

So glad the thread is back on track!

I totally agree. The doc's son (Kornfeld?) went running as soon as Meron began screaming. There wouldn't have been time for Kirk and Meron to wrangle clothing on and off him, even if they were so inclined. I don't remember reading anything in the reports about bodily fluids being detected on the clothing.

Check the timelines where Prince's public statements were concerned. When was the last time he said anything anti-drugs in an interview etc. In fact, when MJ's death was discussed once in an interview, he said that his death was a little close to home. Spiritual people committ suicide all the time after justifying it in their heads. JW's believe in a second resurrection for nearly all humans past and present. I imagine P thought God would forgive him.

TrevorAyer said:

Isn’t suicide stricly forbidden in the christian jw religion? Are you suggesting that the prince religious persona was as fake as the anti drug persona?

Krystalkisses said:

Nola said:

Yes, exactly right. (Well...I'm not 100% convinced about the 'no note' part - if someone on his staff (or a family member) thought they had the right to erase potentially critical information from his computer, they may well have thought it was in Prince's best interest (legacy-wise) to help themselves to any written note found on that day and destroy it). Theory.

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So do you think Prince discussed what he was going to do prior with his people and told them to make it look like something else or they took it upon themselves to cover it up?

No, if by some chance it was a suicide, I doubt he would have had this sort of discussion with his people at all. But at various times throughout the investigator's documentation, I found myself thinking that Kirk in particular, was taking a lot of liberties on Prince's behalf. Speaking "for" Prince ("Prince is fine") when the ER doctor in Moline was addressing Prince directly and asking questions, throwing medications away, etc. For sure, someone tampered with his computer - the only reason they would have done so is if there was some very sensitive or incriminating info on it. It was a bad mistake on the part of the investigators to leave it behind. Like I said earlier, just a lot of little bits and pieces that don't fit very well.

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the clothes could have been reversed anytime after he was found. Maybe the doctor's son determined death and they cleaned him before the paramedics came and officially 'called' his death. Wasn't there about 45 minutes???

Nola said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

I respectfully disagree. I can't picture K&M finding Prince DEAD, internalizing that fact that PRINCE IS DEAD...and then being able to (OR EVEN INTERESTED IN )wrangle his stiff body out of and back into clothes?!?while screaming, being hysterical, hyper-ventilating, crying, praying, cursing...whatever. I think any normal person would pull out a phone and call 911.....at that point, it was obvious that his 'vanity' needed to take a back seat to reality.

Also, if there was biological fluid inside his clothes, it would have been located, analyized and identified.....Penny: were his clothes analyized for chemistry/drugs/vomit/blood, etc? Were any results published?

So glad the thread is back on track!

I totally agree. The doc's son (Kornfeld?) went running as soon as Meron began screaming. There wouldn't have been time for Kirk and Meron to wrangle clothing on and off him, even if they were so inclined. I don't remember reading anything in the reports about bodily fluids being detected on the clothing.

YOu got some facts wrong. The interview with the ER doctor indicated that P himself was answering questions but giving her the runaround. It was Kirk in the hallway who informed her of the Aleve bottle (after P had supposedly told him about it when the doctor was gone) and then she addressed P about it. The EMT folks thought Kirk was taking over too much, but they came late to the scene after the fire department guys had already struggled to get P in a gurney on the plane and were wasting a lot of time--thus the reason Kirk carried Prince out of the plane. When he spoke for P , it was after P and him shared a glance. I think he knew P wanted him to keep his mouth shut. Also, when he said to the EMT folks that P had taken one percocet, he had indeed taken one percocet as far as Kirk knew. THere were 15 percocet prescribed to P and 14 were left in the bottle. OF course, there were also the pills in the Aleve bottle (which Kirk may not have known about at that moment.). I think Kirk knew more than he was saying, but I also think Kirk knew less than most conspiracy theorists believe. I think P's addiction confused and overwhelmed the crap out of him and he was ill-equipped to deal, and he was attempting to protect P's privacy after his death and more cynically protect the P.R.N brand. As for the computer, I have discussed his before. I recall reading that P's lawyers told the cops they could look through the files of his computer in front of the lawyer or get a search warrant. They chose a search warrant rather than have a lawyer standing over them telling them what was relevant and not relevant to the investigation.. In the meanwhile, the lawyer probably told everyone in P's camp that the cops would eventually release all investigative files to the public so in attempt to protect P's privacy, the PRN brand etc, they just quickly deleted all personal emails etc before the week of his death. That's my boring and non-salicious theory. Maybe to them, protecting P's legacy was more important than finding out who sold him those bottles that he paid for with that petty cash. Sadly, I think a lot of suspicious behavior on P's part was ignored by his assistants etc because of his fame and power and their wanting to keep their jobs, but I don't think anyone thought the dude would die (at least not right away) . He was Prince and had the resources to get help and had been through a scare earlier that week. . I just don't think they understood how truely low he was feeling until it was too late..maybe the last week, they were starting to realize it. If it was suicide, then P made a choice no one may have anticipated.

Nola said:

Krystalkisses said:

Nola said: So do you think Prince discussed what he was going to do prior with his people and told them to make it look like something else or they took it upon themselves to cover it up?

No, if by some chance it was a suicide, I doubt he would have had this sort of discussion with his people at all. But at various times throughout the investigator's documentation, I found myself thinking that Kirk in particular, was taking a lot of liberties on Prince's behalf. Speaking "for" Prince ("Prince is fine") when the ER doctor in Moline was addressing Prince directly and asking questions, throwing medications away, etc. For sure, someone tampered with his computer - the only reason they would have done so is if there was some very sensitive or incriminating info on it. It was a bad mistake on the part of the investigators to leave it behind. Like I said earlier, just a lot of little bits and pieces that don't fit very well.

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Nola said:

Yes I agree. I was also wondering how do investigators rule out a suicide in this kind of case. My brother in law even asked me about a month ago, why would he take stuff that he knew almost killed him on the plane?

Happy sleuthing y'all. I have given up all of my ideas. Hopefully you guys solve this case. Good to have fresh eyes as well.

Taking a break from this ever-fascinating Prince mystery. Gotta get back to the remodel.

violetcrush said:

Nola said:

But Violet, don't you see that even you are seeming to know what Prince would or would not 'appreciate', but you're not him either, therefore you are expressing your opinion! This is exactly what the group chat is about, isn't it? Opinions, thoughts, questions, observstions, exchanges. I think it's fine to disagree with the opinions of others in any kind of discussion, but no one in this particular discussion is an expert on the thoughts, motivations, or actions of Prince. The only true expert on Prince is gone. But clearly, people still have plenty to say and ponder over, so I think this is a great forum in which to do so.

I get it. But then the thread should be "Theories On Why Prince Took Opioids" or "Prince's Death: Suicide Or Accident?" Because this has nothing to do with the facts or the investigation.

It has everything to do with the investigation, investigation documents have even been posted. If you are unhappy about this thread, stop spamming it.