Bassette said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Bassette said:

Apparently he didn't tolerate anyone in his private rooms anymore, not even a housekeeper. I guess this is the way dying looks like. And, because he didn't drink enough, his urine was dark colored. Maybe he was dizzy, maybe he was sleepy, anyway; what I found disturbing was that one black jacket on the floor in the corridor.

Are you talking about the jacket found upstairs on the floor?? If so, that's the jacket he wore on 4/20. According to KJ it was not "normal" for his clothing to be onthe floor. I'm still trying to figure out the proximity in relation to the green bedroom. Is it outside the bedroom? or the upstairs office? It's weird because a pair of black shoes appeared to be on the floor (green bedroom) [will assume these were the shoes he wore 4/20] but the jacket was found on the floor??? He was also found shoeless. Can it be assumed on the eve of 4/20 he was agitated or upset after returning from Dr. S. Takes off his jacket. Throws it on floor. Goes into bedroom. Takes off shoes. Goes into distress. Gets onto elevator??? or Goes into bedroom. Takes off shoes. Goes into distress. Takes off jacket. Throws onto floor. Gets onto elevator??? ... and yet his clothes were on backwards???

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Lovejunky said:

PennyPurple said:

Huh? What about the urine on the bottom of the stool and on the floor around it? Caulking, that shit needed to be cleaned.

Just a wild guess...

but I think the cleaners probably came immediately before a PP Event....

Prince had probably never been into the Public Rest Rooms..

WHy would he...? he relied on his estate managers to keep things in ship shape...

I also doubt Prince even visited the Garage or other rooms in Paisley other then his recording and private facilities...

regrding his Personal Bathroom...

It was not dirty, perhaps a little untidy..

but you should see MY Bathroom when I dont have guests coming over...LOL

and regarding the Toilet Cistern..

Those toilets are over 20 years old...

Take to top off yours and have a look inside it...

Theo L alluded to this in his recorded statement. He stated that Prince expected those around him to take care of him. Per P it was their job. KJ's cell phone records on day of the ATL trips show he made several phone calls to a man who was the former groundskeeper for Paisley. Were the calls regarding "maintenance" of the grounds??? Maybe. Also, Theo mentioned that KJ at some point sent him a text asking "want to come back" and Theo took that to mean KJ was feeling overhwelmed with his duties.

Strawberrylova123 said:

206Michelle said:

purplerabbithole said:

206Michelle said:

Does anybody know what Meron is doing now? Does she live in MN, or did she move some where else?

purplerabbithole said:

100% to Mayte? I doubt it. Remember, she never saw him without makeup. She said he would call her but didn't allow her to call him. She wasn't sure what was going on with his pill usage while they were married. 75% at most...maybe lower.

I'm having a hard time with this conversation about Prince giving his all in a relationship without a clear definition of what giving his all/giving 100%, or 95%, or whatever % in a relationship means. I wasn't there, so I have to take Mayte's word when she writes in chapters 8 and 9 of her book that he was fully committed to her and his grand scheme for marriage and family life from the time he proposed to her (July 25, 1995) until they made the decision to remove life support from Amiir on or around October 21/22, 1996.

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From what Mayte wrote in her book, her being the mother of his only child plus their baby that was miscarried, reviewing interviews with from 1995-1997, the Emancipation album, the M (for Mayte) that he added to the , her appearing in more of his music videos than any other woman, and the various songs he wrote about her, it seems that Prince gave more to Mayte in a personal relationship than he did with any other woman. Prince was a musician and he had trust/abandonment/attachment issues as we all know, but he professed his love for Mayte more openly than for any other woman.

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Regardless of how much we argue that he gave to Mayte, she wrote in chapter 9 of her book that when it came to their son, exhibited a "solid core of unconditional love". Her writing about him as a father is glowing, quite possibly the most flattering, loving, magnificent descriptions that I have ever read about the man. He was there for every one of Amiir's surgeries. He stayed at the hospital continuously for close to 6 days, going home one time to take a shower. I cannot even imagine how much pain it caused him to lose his beloved, much-wanted child.

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Excerpt taken from USA Today article November 12, 1996:

He gazes at a huge photo of Mayte on his wall. She inhabits his music and conversation and inspired Paisley Park's conversion from corporate austerity to a kaleidoscopic fun house with cloud-mottled blue walls. No wonder he's ditched Prince, the rake whose salty tunes celebrated promiscuity. The Artist is plum bewitched and happily monogamous. "There's always been a dichotomy in my music: I'm searching for a higher plane, but I want the most out of being on earth," he says. "When I met Mayte, I looked at my situation and wondered what I was running from. Am I lonely? Is that why I surround myself with so many friends? "I don't think I knew the answer until I got married and made the commitment: 'I will take care of you forever.' When she walked down the aisle, and I looked into the eyes of this woman-child, I could see our future and the eyes of our child. At moments like that, you are floating. There is no ego."

Link: https://sites.google.com/...ember-1996

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Excerpt taken from UK Hello, December 1996:

Q - Do you have a favourite song?

A - Not really, but I like the second CD best. I could say "The Holy River" -- right in the middle after 5 romantic numbers -- is my favourite, but then I also like "Let's have a baby." Just before our wedding, Mayte spent a few days away from our home so I made a lot of changes to our house -- especially in our bedroom, where I placed a crib. It was beautiful. Then, on our wedding night, Mayte was still wearing her long white dress when I brought her into the room and played her "Let's have a baby" for the first time. She couldn't stop crying -- it was an unforgettable moment.

Prince says this about his wife from the same article:

Q - Do you think your wife has had a positive influence on your life?

A - Yes, certainly. She is the woman of my life, my best friend. We were made to be together and all the ingredients were there to unite us. Our fathers have the same name and our mother's names are similar. My family's name was Nelson and hers was Nells. We're definitely made for each other. With her, I've learnt what faith is and I no longer worry.

Link: https://sites.google.com/...ember-1996

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Rolling Stone interview, published November 28, 1996:

Of course, no such scenario would be complete without someone in the role of the indulgent girlfriend. Cast in that spot is ’s gorgeous and very pregnant wife, Mayte, 22. Wearing a short black dress with white trim, the word baby stitched across her chest in white above an arrow pointing to her stomach, Mayte sits quietly and smiles, shaking her head fondly at ’s uncontrolled enthusiasm.

’s marriage to Mayte and the impending birth of their child were two of the important inspirations for Emancipation. It’s no coincidence that what describes as his “divorce” from Warner Bros. Has occurred right around the time of his marriage and Mayte’s pregnancy. “I don’t believe in coincidence,” he says flatly.

Along with covers of such smoochy ballads as “Betcha by Golly, Wow” and the Delphonics’ “La-La- Means I Love You,” Emancipation is filled with what sheepishly calls “sentimental stuff.” Discussing how he has been affected by the prospect of fatherhood, he says, “You’ll definitely hear it in my music.” For the song “Sex in the Summer,” which was originally titled “Conception,” sampled his unborn baby’s heartbeat. “Of course, that ’s a tempo,” he says. “The nothing baby set the groove for this song. Mayte always smiles when she hears it.”

may have used his baby’s ultrasound as a rhythm sample, but he and Mayte did not ask to know which sex their child is. “It doesn’t matter, “ says. “We all have the male and female with us, anyway. We’ll be happy with whatever God chooses to give us.” And just as has no intention of once again taking the name Prince - the people around him refer to him simply as “the Artist” - he says, “The baby will name itself.”

As he prepares to preview a song called “Let’s Have a Baby,” turns to Mayte and says, “You’re gonna start crying - you better leave.” Then he explains to me, “I got my house fixed up and put a crib in it. Then I played this song for her, and she started crying. She had never seen my house with a crib in it before.” “Let’s have a baby,” the lyrics run. “What are we living for?/Let’s make love....”

He points to a portrait of Mayte that is framed in gold. “I can’t wait for my baby to look up and see Mayte’s eyes,” he says, his voice filled with wonder. “Look at those eyes. That’s the first thing the baby is going to see in this world.”

Full interview here: https://sites.google.com/...ember-1996
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Source: http://prince.org/msg/7/425105

Since Prince's passing SO MANY new, unseen photos!!!! Post them here!!!

p. 50, reply #1475 (http://prince.org/msg/7/425105?&pg=50)

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Source: http://prince.org/msg/5/4...&pg=18

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Source: http://prince.org/msg/5/452536?&pg=17

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Source: http://prince.org/msg/5/452536?&pg=10

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Unfortunately, what he did not have at the end of his life was his own family, his own wife and children, who could have helped to care for him. Since he did not leave behind a wife or children, his music is his most enduring legacy.

^^^^What's this?

Please dont turn this into a M1 fight amongst the children.

Change of direction ---------->>>>>

In looking through the photos again, I saw a CD that was "homemade" titled "Woodstock"

I love it that Princey was either listening or looking at Woodstock footage.

Mayte and Shelby were nowhere near P's stratophere or circle in the last year of his life. What bond is Shelby even talking about? I have a tough time belieiving associates these days. I hate to say it. This is not the place to go into my reservations so I will leave it at that.

206Michelle said:

purplerabbithole said:

100% to Mayte? I doubt it. Remember, she never saw him without makeup. She said he would call her but didn't allow her to call him. She wasn't sure what was going on with his pill usage while they were married. 75% at most...maybe lower.

I'm having a hard time with this conversation about Prince giving his all in a relationship without a clear definition of what giving his all/giving 100%, or 95%, or whatever % in a relationship means. I wasn't there, so I have to take Mayte's word when she writes in chapters 8 and 9 of her book that he was fully committed to her and his grand scheme for marriage and family life from the time he proposed to her (July 25, 1995) until they made the decision to remove life support from Amiir on or around October 21/22, 1996.

.

From what Mayte wrote in her book, her being the mother of his only child plus their baby that was miscarried, reviewing interviews with from 1995-1997, the Emancipation album, the M (for Mayte) that he added to the , her appearing in more of his music videos than any other woman, and the various songs he wrote about her, it seems that Prince gave more to Mayte in a personal relationship than he did with any other woman. Prince was a musician and he had trust/abandonment/attachment issues as we all know, but he professed his love for Mayte more openly than for any other woman.

.

Regardless of how much we argue that he gave to Mayte, she wrote in chapter 9 of her book that when it came to their son, exhibited a "solid core of unconditional love". Her writing about him as a father is glowing, quite possibly the most flattering, loving, magnificent descriptions that I have ever read about the man. He was there for every one of Amiir's surgeries. He stayed at the hospital continuously for close to 6 days, going home one time to take a shower. I cannot even imagine how much pain it caused him to lose his beloved, much-wanted child.

.

Excerpt taken from USA Today article November 12, 1996:

He gazes at a huge photo of Mayte on his wall. She inhabits his music and conversation and inspired Paisley Park's conversion from corporate austerity to a kaleidoscopic fun house with cloud-mottled blue walls. No wonder he's ditched Prince, the rake whose salty tunes celebrated promiscuity. The Artist is plum bewitched and happily monogamous. "There's always been a dichotomy in my music: I'm searching for a higher plane, but I want the most out of being on earth," he says. "When I met Mayte, I looked at my situation and wondered what I was running from. Am I lonely? Is that why I surround myself with so many friends? "I don't think I knew the answer until I got married and made the commitment: 'I will take care of you forever.' When she walked down the aisle, and I looked into the eyes of this woman-child, I could see our future and the eyes of our child. At moments like that, you are floating. There is no ego."

Link: https://sites.google.com/...ember-1996

.

Excerpt taken from UK Hello, December 1996:

Q - Do you have a favourite song?

A - Not really, but I like the second CD best. I could say "The Holy River" -- right in the middle after 5 romantic numbers -- is my favourite, but then I also like "Let's have a baby." Just before our wedding, Mayte spent a few days away from our home so I made a lot of changes to our house -- especially in our bedroom, where I placed a crib. It was beautiful. Then, on our wedding night, Mayte was still wearing her long white dress when I brought her into the room and played her "Let's have a baby" for the first time. She couldn't stop crying -- it was an unforgettable moment.

Prince says this about his wife from the same article:

Q - Do you think your wife has had a positive influence on your life?

A - Yes, certainly. She is the woman of my life, my best friend. We were made to be together and all the ingredients were there to unite us. Our fathers have the same name and our mother's names are similar. My family's name was Nelson and hers was Nells. We're definitely made for each other. With her, I've learnt what faith is and I no longer worry.

Link: https://sites.google.com/...ember-1996

.

Rolling Stone interview, published November 28, 1996:

Of course, no such scenario would be complete without someone in the role of the indulgent girlfriend. Cast in that spot is ’s gorgeous and very pregnant wife, Mayte, 22. Wearing a short black dress with white trim, the word baby stitched across her chest in white above an arrow pointing to her stomach, Mayte sits quietly and smiles, shaking her head fondly at ’s uncontrolled enthusiasm.

’s marriage to Mayte and the impending birth of their child were two of the important inspirations for Emancipation. It’s no coincidence that what describes as his “divorce” from Warner Bros. Has occurred right around the time of his marriage and Mayte’s pregnancy. “I don’t believe in coincidence,” he says flatly.

Along with covers of such smoochy ballads as “Betcha by Golly, Wow” and the Delphonics’ “La-La- Means I Love You,” Emancipation is filled with what sheepishly calls “sentimental stuff.” Discussing how he has been affected by the prospect of fatherhood, he says, “You’ll definitely hear it in my music.” For the song “Sex in the Summer,” which was originally titled “Conception,” sampled his unborn baby’s heartbeat. “Of course, that ’s a tempo,” he says. “The nothing baby set the groove for this song. Mayte always smiles when she hears it.”

may have used his baby’s ultrasound as a rhythm sample, but he and Mayte did not ask to know which sex their child is. “It doesn’t matter, “ says. “We all have the male and female with us, anyway. We’ll be happy with whatever God chooses to give us.” And just as has no intention of once again taking the name Prince - the people around him refer to him simply as “the Artist” - he says, “The baby will name itself.”

As he prepares to preview a song called “Let’s Have a Baby,” turns to Mayte and says, “You’re gonna start crying - you better leave.” Then he explains to me, “I got my house fixed up and put a crib in it. Then I played this song for her, and she started crying. She had never seen my house with a crib in it before.” “Let’s have a baby,” the lyrics run. “What are we living for?/Let’s make love....”

He points to a portrait of Mayte that is framed in gold. “I can’t wait for my baby to look up and see Mayte’s eyes,” he says, his voice filled with wonder. “Look at those eyes. That’s the first thing the baby is going to see in this world.”

Full interview here: https://sites.google.com/...ember-1996
.

Source: http://prince.org/msg/7/425105

Since Prince's passing SO MANY new, unseen photos!!!! Post them here!!!

p. 50, reply #1475 (http://prince.org/msg/7/425105?&pg=50)

.

Source: http://prince.org/msg/5/4...&pg=18

.

Source: http://prince.org/msg/5/452536?&pg=17

.

Source: http://prince.org/msg/5/452536?&pg=10

.

Unfortunately, what he did not have at the end of his life was his own family, his own wife and children, who could have helped to care for him. Since he did not leave behind a wife or children, his music is his most enduring legacy.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

^^^^What's this?

Please dont turn this into a M1 fight amongst the children.

It's not meant to be a fight. I just don't think it's necessary to dissect what percentage that Prince gave of himself to a significant other and I was trying to explain why I feel this way.

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As I wrote previously:

I'm having a hard time with this conversation about Prince giving his all in a relationship without a clear definition of what giving his all/giving 100%, or 95%, or whatever % in a relationship means. I wasn't there, so I have to take Mayte's word when she writes in chapters 8 and 9 of her book that he was fully committed to her and his grand scheme for marriage and family life from the time he proposed to her (July 25, 1995) until they made the decision to remove life support from Amiir on or around October 21/22, 1996.

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In her book, Mayte wrote very highly about the period of her life from July 25, 1995 to around October 21/22, 1996. This was a happy time for she and . We all know that the man wasn't able to sustain a marriage lasting longer than 5 years. However, can we at least give him some CREDIT for being able to make numerous women very happy either in a romantic relationship and/or a friendship?

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For all of the women that he loved and befriended and with whom he worked, NOT ONE WOMAN has accused him of any kind of sexual harrassment or misconduct, which is rampant in the entertainment industry. Seriously, go read some of the things Lala Escarzega has written on her Instagram and Facebook pages about him. Read what Hannah Welton wrote about him following his death. He was a very loving person, but he just couldn't make it work with one woman for the long-haul.

[Edited 6/3/18 21:29pm]

Strawberrylova123 said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

I guess some people should look up what it means to be an addict and that these people just don't care about such things anymore at one point. And the thing is, we got these pictures, it is a fact and still some people chose to be blind.

And then some say that the people who point it out aren't real fans. But I think a real fan could accept the sad truth. That Prince was and lived like an addict during his last years. That may sound hard to some, but there are pictures in life you just can't paint beautiful.

[Edited 6/3/18 14:07pm]

Not blind in fact i agree with most what penny, you, bodhittheblackdog and dsich says regarding his addiction. I just thought the description of his bathroom was really exaggerated on here.

i watched all the youtube vids with the thousands of pics, i didn't see that messy a place, but then i'm far from a neat freak myself and most of the people around me are pretty disorganized. I didn't see the stained toilet pictures, but i wasn't analyzing any of the hundreds of pics I saw that close.

Bassette said:

Apparently he didn't tolerate anyone in his private rooms anymore, not even a housekeeper. I guess this is the way dying looks like. And, because he didn't drink enough, his urine was dark colored. Maybe he was dizzy, maybe he was sleepy, anyway; what I found disturbing was that one black jacket on the floor in the corridor.

He was doing his own afro and applying his own makeup, which some people have commented on as pasty. So he was not letting anyone close, rather keeping a safe distance. The same with cleaning people. Most likely did not want people snooping around, especially having an addiction and risking it getting out into the public. Plus all the enemas and related issues. It's not really that hard to see.

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PennyPurple said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

PennyPurple said: I was shocked to see that prince blood pressure was very high in his vital shit from dr S

I didn't think it was very high, like it was out of control or something.

There are lots of things that affect your blood pressure. Anger, stress,worry, pain, fear to name just a few. I'm sure that he was probably stessed like a cat in a room full of rocking chairs. The Dr didn't note any concerns about it so it must have been of low importance.

zenarose said:

Something just occurred to me. the other bodyguard (whose name escapes me) stated that when he packed P's bag, all he had was Aleve and vitamin bottles so he couldn't be a drug addict. But didn't people in the reports state that only P packed his own bags. IF he only packed his own bags, how did the bodyguard know that there were Aleve and vitamin B bottles in there? Did P actually have people packing his bag at some point? Or is it possible that the other bodyguard was acting like he was naive about what was in those bottles when he supposedly saw them while packing because he knew exactly what was in those pills and gave them to PRince himself (upon request?)

purplerabbithole said:

Mayte and Shelby were nowhere near P's stratophere or circle in the last year of his life. What bond is Shelby even talking about? I have a tough time belieiving associates these days. I hate to say it. This is not the place to go into my reservations so I will leave it at that.

206Michelle said:

I'm having a hard time with this conversation about Prince giving his all in a relationship without a clear definition of what giving his all/giving 100%, or 95%, or whatever % in a relationship means. I wasn't there, so I have to take Mayte's word when she writes in chapters 8 and 9 of her book that he was fully committed to her and his grand scheme for marriage and family life from the time he proposed to her (July 25, 1995) until they made the decision to remove life support from Amiir on or around October 21/22, 1996.

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From what Mayte wrote in her book, her being the mother of his only child plus their baby that was miscarried, reviewing interviews with from 1995-1997, the Emancipation album, the M (for Mayte) that he added to the , her appearing in more of his music videos than any other woman, and the various songs he wrote about her, it seems that Prince gave more to Mayte in a personal relationship than he did with any other woman. Prince was a musician and he had trust/abandonment/attachment issues as we all know, but he professed his love for Mayte more openly than for any other woman.

.

Regardless of how much we argue that he gave to Mayte, she wrote in chapter 9 of her book that when it came to their son, exhibited a "solid core of unconditional love". Her writing about him as a father is glowing, quite possibly the most flattering, loving, magnificent descriptions that I have ever read about the man. He was there for every one of Amiir's surgeries. He stayed at the hospital continuously for close to 6 days, going home one time to take a shower. I cannot even imagine how much pain it caused him to lose his beloved, much-wanted child.

.

Excerpt taken from USA Today article November 12, 1996:

He gazes at a huge photo of Mayte on his wall. She inhabits his music and conversation and inspired Paisley Park's conversion from corporate austerity to a kaleidoscopic fun house with cloud-mottled blue walls. No wonder he's ditched Prince, the rake whose salty tunes celebrated promiscuity. The Artist is plum bewitched and happily monogamous. "There's always been a dichotomy in my music: I'm searching for a higher plane, but I want the most out of being on earth," he says. "When I met Mayte, I looked at my situation and wondered what I was running from. Am I lonely? Is that why I surround myself with so many friends? "I don't think I knew the answer until I got married and made the commitment: 'I will take care of you forever.' When she walked down the aisle, and I looked into the eyes of this woman-child, I could see our future and the eyes of our child. At moments like that, you are floating. There is no ego."

Link: https://sites.google.com/...ember-1996

.

Excerpt taken from UK Hello, December 1996:

Q - Do you have a favourite song?

A - Not really, but I like the second CD best. I could say "The Holy River" -- right in the middle after 5 romantic numbers -- is my favourite, but then I also like "Let's have a baby." Just before our wedding, Mayte spent a few days away from our home so I made a lot of changes to our house -- especially in our bedroom, where I placed a crib. It was beautiful. Then, on our wedding night, Mayte was still wearing her long white dress when I brought her into the room and played her "Let's have a baby" for the first time. She couldn't stop crying -- it was an unforgettable moment.

Prince says this about his wife from the same article:

Q - Do you think your wife has had a positive influence on your life?

A - Yes, certainly. She is the woman of my life, my best friend. We were made to be together and all the ingredients were there to unite us. Our fathers have the same name and our mother's names are similar. My family's name was Nelson and hers was Nells. We're definitely made for each other. With her, I've learnt what faith is and I no longer worry.

Link: https://sites.google.com/...ember-1996

.

Rolling Stone interview, published November 28, 1996:

Of course, no such scenario would be complete without someone in the role of the indulgent girlfriend. Cast in that spot is ’s gorgeous and very pregnant wife, Mayte, 22. Wearing a short black dress with white trim, the word baby stitched across her chest in white above an arrow pointing to her stomach, Mayte sits quietly and smiles, shaking her head fondly at ’s uncontrolled enthusiasm.

’s marriage to Mayte and the impending birth of their child were two of the important inspirations for Emancipation. It’s no coincidence that what describes as his “divorce” from Warner Bros. Has occurred right around the time of his marriage and Mayte’s pregnancy. “I don’t believe in coincidence,” he says flatly.

Along with covers of such smoochy ballads as “Betcha by Golly, Wow” and the Delphonics’ “La-La- Means I Love You,” Emancipation is filled with what sheepishly calls “sentimental stuff.” Discussing how he has been affected by the prospect of fatherhood, he says, “You’ll definitely hear it in my music.” For the song “Sex in the Summer,” which was originally titled “Conception,” sampled his unborn baby’s heartbeat. “Of course, that ’s a tempo,” he says. “The nothing baby set the groove for this song. Mayte always smiles when she hears it.”

may have used his baby’s ultrasound as a rhythm sample, but he and Mayte did not ask to know which sex their child is. “It doesn’t matter, “ says. “We all have the male and female with us, anyway. We’ll be happy with whatever God chooses to give us.” And just as has no intention of once again taking the name Prince - the people around him refer to him simply as “the Artist” - he says, “The baby will name itself.”

As he prepares to preview a song called “Let’s Have a Baby,” turns to Mayte and says, “You’re gonna start crying - you better leave.” Then he explains to me, “I got my house fixed up and put a crib in it. Then I played this song for her, and she started crying. She had never seen my house with a crib in it before.” “Let’s have a baby,” the lyrics run. “What are we living for?/Let’s make love....”

He points to a portrait of Mayte that is framed in gold. “I can’t wait for my baby to look up and see Mayte’s eyes,” he says, his voice filled with wonder. “Look at those eyes. That’s the first thing the baby is going to see in this world.”

Full interview here: https://sites.google.com/...ember-1996
.

Source: http://prince.org/msg/7/425105

Since Prince's passing SO MANY new, unseen photos!!!! Post them here!!!

p. 50, reply #1475 (http://prince.org/msg/7/425105?&pg=50)

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Source: http://prince.org/msg/5/4...&pg=18

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Source: http://prince.org/msg/5/452536?&pg=17

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Source: http://prince.org/msg/5/452536?&pg=10

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Unfortunately, what he did not have at the end of his life was his own family, his own wife and children, who could have helped to care for him. Since he did not leave behind a wife or children, his music is his most enduring legacy.

Not to get off topic. But whatever happened to Shelby's husband? I saw one pic of them together YEARS ago. Then he disappeared never to be seen with her again.

Strawberrylova123 said:

Really surprised that they didn't interview bria Valente, i truly believe one of the reasons she left was because of his addiction

having now listened to some of the carver county interviews I am ASTOUNDED at the weakness of their interview questions. To say they were soft would be an understatement! People have been let off very lightly & I am guessing no 2nd round of questions will happen as its case closed?

Strawberrylova123 said:

zenarose said:

There are lots of things that affect your blood pressure. Anger, stress,worry, pain, fear to name just a few. I'm sure that he was probably stessed like a cat in a room full of rocking chairs. The Dr didn't note any concerns about it so it must have been of low importance.

Dr S prescribed him clonidine which is for blood pressure

But it wasn't prescribed for his blood pressure, it was prescribed as a withdrawel med.

Strawberrylova123 said:

here are the images that the police took at paisley park.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0-Qsr6PgBE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROAms0GV4CI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WrYIyIK9X4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p8j0PnIjEI

My God, what a mess. Beyond heartbreaking to see P.Park in this state. If I worked there I would have sorted every damn room out. WTF were the staff there doing with their time?

PennyPurple said:

Does anybody know what Meron is doing now? Does she live in MN, or did she move some where else?

cant find her on social media, she seems to be THE most suspicious & I can't comprehend how little she was questioned by Carver County..she was the one who found his body ffs!

PennyPurple said:

Mumio said:

Penny, I find it interesting that you suddenly swoop out of nowhere on some of this stuff. Given that....I am gonna take a pass on responding to your comments.

But I will make one comment: photos DO lie if there's been staging done....and that is all I am gonna say about that.

How I swoop down out of nowhere? I'm the one who mentioned the dirty toilet several pages back.

The police photos aren't staged. Did they stage the urine all over the toilet and floor? Did they stage all the dirt on the cars? Did they stage the dirt on the kitchen floor where the grout was supposed to be white, but is black?

In Ray Roberts statement to LE he stated: "I stayed late (4/20) to do extra cleaning in "Ray's" kitchen".

There was "Ray's kitchen and there was a kitchen deemed "Prince's kitchen". Neither were CLEAN in my opinion.

I would also like to add:

When looking at the photos you have to keep in mind that there are photos taken on 4/21 by CCSO. That is the most accurate photos of PP at the time of P's demise. It didn't appear to be in really bad disarray, just not deep cleaned by a housekeeper which was MB's job to oversee and insure was completed.

The Photos taken 5/10 and 5/11 were taken by the FEDS. When those photos were taken 19 days had passed and there was fairly heavy traffic through PP by then. Packing up and discarding of personal items, ect. You see the photos when each room was entered prior to their search ,during and after the search of each room with evidence being placed in the gray bags.

Some of the issues in this case are due to the fact that PP should have been secured until a thorough and complete investigation was conducted and that the case should not have been based on assumations or incomplete stattements from witnesses. The fact is that PP was turned over to "the family" before an investigation was completed. There inlies the issue. I have said this before, you CANNOT go back. Things were moved, trashed, possibly taken, planted, ect. by the time the FEDS obtained a search warrant. PP was no longer pristeen due to contamination. Either way you look at it that is a true and fair evaluation of the case.

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

PennyPurple said:

Does anybody know what Meron is doing now? Does she live in MN, or did she move some where else?

cant find her on social media, she seems to be THE most suspicious & I can't comprehend how little she was questioned by Carver County..she was the one who found his body ffs!

She was on Twitter but has posted since July of 2017. I know she and Londell M were buddy buddy at one point. She also got into Twitter drama with some female "fans" of P about two months before he passed.

zenarose said:

PennyPurple said:

How I swoop down out of nowhere? I'm the one who mentioned the dirty toilet several pages back.

The police photos aren't staged. Did they stage the urine all over the toilet and floor? Did they stage all the dirt on the cars? Did they stage the dirt on the kitchen floor where the grout was supposed to be white, but is black?

In Ray Roberts statement to LE he stated: "I stayed late (4/20) to do extra cleaning in "Ray's" kitchen".

There was "Ray's kitchen and there was a kitchen deemed "Prince's kitchen". Neither were CLEAN in my opinion.

I would also like to add:

When looking at the photos you have to keep in mind that there are photos taken on 4/21 by CCSO. That is the most accurate photos of PP at the time of P's demise. It didn't appear to be in really bad disarray, just not deep cleaned by a housekeeper which was MB's job to oversee and insure was completed.

The Photos taken 5/10 and 5/11 were taken by the FEDS. When those photos were taken 19 days had passed and there was fairly heavy traffic through PP by then. Packing up and discarding of personal items, ect. You see the photos when each room was entered prior to their search ,during and after the search of each room with evidence being placed in the gray bags.

Some of the issues in this case are due to the fact that PP should have been secured until a thorough and complete investigation was conducted and that the case should not have been based on assumations or incomplete stattements from witnesses. The fact is that PP was turned over to "the family" before an investigation was completed. There inlies the issue. I have said this before, you CANNOT go back. Things were moved, trashed, possibly taken, planted, ect. by the time the FEDS obtained a search warrant. PP was no longer pristeen due to contamination. Either way you look at it that is a true and fair evaluation of the case.

I agree with you. The investigation was not handled properly. Evidence was compromised. This "final" report means nothing to me.

PennyPurple said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

zenarose said: Dr S prescribed him clonidine which is for blood pressure

But it wasn't prescribed for his blood pressure, it was prescribed as a withdrawel med.

Hey Penny, I didn't post the above statement, but you are right. I completely forgot about the script.

I didn't think much of the elevated blood pressure due to my thinking that stress would have been a part of the causation.