ThatWhiteDude said:

Krystalkisses said:

Why would you call it an addiction? Every man loves beautiful, young , fertile women it is evolutionarily psychology.

Uhm no

Bodhitheblackdog said:

CooperC62057 said:

Bodhitheblackdog said: And so, statements like “why don’t you tell them the whole story” (Damaris?) and “heard he wasn’t doing well” (Mayte), etc. could all have been in relation to substance abuse issues though many were searching for some terminal disease. Not one single doubt in my mind that any and all who spent any substantial amount of time with him did not know. So many reasons that people hold back and don’t intervene but in the end, whether they accept the burden or not, they failed him and anyone of them could have changed the outcome if they had just TRIED.

Just burned through zip file 4 and am far more disturbed than when I saw the death shots.The chaos, disorder and dirt were overwhelmingly cray to me...IMO, if anyone in their right mind walked through PP, they would have known he was done.
He had pleanty of money and resources to have everything cleaned, repaired. curated, organized...no wonder people stole from him...he had no idea what he owned and obviously never threw anything away...The guitars in a storeroom with drum set and electronic parts? The hats on a cheap shelf?His shoes on a $29.99 rack from Target? I'm sick to my stomach.

The disintegration was there in plain view. I respectfully disagree with what someone wrote here about musicians or artists being messy or untidy bc they had better things to do...this HAD been a man meticulous about his persona...WTF?And the disorganization seeped deep into his personal luggage and space

So totally freaking SAD...Prince, at the end, was living in a cold, messy warehouse with no family or friends to help him when he obviously needed help.

Why some of U are painting Prince's life at the end like he was some sort of a slob and didn't care anymore?

Paisley Park was in the middle of a renovation. He was in the process of preparing the place to become a musuem. He was actually throwing a lot of things out. That's the real reason he ordered his bandmates to get their belongings out of there. Some of those investigative pictures were taken after they ramsacked his belongings looking for evidence. Also the most important places in PP were clean and in order.

Do U honestly think if he was turning it into a musuem he wouldn't have it in tip top shape by then? Use common sense.

[Edited 6/2/18 14:00pm]

Krystalkisses said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

Yep!

Why would you call it an addiction? Every man loves beautiful, young , fertile women it is evolutionarily psychology.

I was referring to:

Reply #12 posted 06/02/18 6:12am

Just as long a girl is around, everything is alright. It appeared not to be that way.

Bassette said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

Krystalkisses said: Uhm no

Bodhitheblackdog said:

CooperC62057 said:

Bodhitheblackdog said: And so, statements like “why don’t you tell them the whole story” (Damaris?) and “heard he wasn’t doing well” (Mayte), etc. could all have been in relation to substance abuse issues though many were searching for some terminal disease. Not one single doubt in my mind that any and all who spent any substantial amount of time with him did not know. So many reasons that people hold back and don’t intervene but in the end, whether they accept the burden or not, they failed him and anyone of them could have changed the outcome if they had just TRIED.

Just burned through zip file 4 and am far more disturbed than when I saw the death shots.The chaos, disorder and dirt were overwhelmingly cray to me...IMO, if anyone in their right mind walked through PP, they would have known he was done.
He had pleanty of money and resources to have everything cleaned, repaired. curated, organized...no wonder people stole from him...he had no idea what he owned and obviously never threw anything away...The guitars in a storeroom with drum set and electronic parts? The hats on a cheap shelf?His shoes on a $29.99 rack from Target? I'm sick to my stomach.

The disintegration was there in plain view. I respectfully disagree with what someone wrote here about musicians or artists being messy or untidy bc they had better things to do...this HAD been a man meticulous about his persona...WTF?And the disorganization seeped deep into his personal luggage and space

So totally freaking SAD...Prince, at the end, was living in a cold, messy warehouse with no family or friends to help him when he obviously needed help.

Did you see his toilet?

It's sad isn't it?

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Just burned through zip file 4 and am far more disturbed than when I saw the death shots.The chaos, disorder and dirt were overwhelmingly cray to me...IMO, if anyone in their right mind walked through PP, they would have known he was done.
He had pleanty of money and resources to have everything cleaned, repaired. curated, organized...no wonder people stole from him...he had no idea what he owned and obviously never threw anything away...The guitars in a storeroom with drum set and electronic parts? The hats on a cheap shelf?His shoes on a $29.99 rack from Target? I'm sick to my stomach.

The disintegration was there in plain view. I respectfully disagree with what someone wrote here about musicians or artists being messy or untidy bc they had better things to do...this HAD been a man meticulous about his persona...WTF?And the disorganization seeped deep into his personal luggage and space

So totally freaking SAD...Prince, at the end, was living in a cold, messy warehouse with no family or friends to help him when he obviously needed help.

Why some of U are painting Prince's life at the end like he was some sort of a slob and didn't care anymore?

Paisley Park was in the middle of a renovation. He was in the process of preparing the place to become a musuem. He was actually throwing a lot of things out. That's the real reason he ordered his bandmates to get their belongings out of there. Some of those investigative pictures were taken after they ramsacked his belongings looking for evidence. Also the most important places in PP were clean and in order.

Do U honestly think if he was turning it into a musuem he wouldn't have it in tip top shape by then? Use common sense.

[Edited 6/2/18 14:00pm]

And what's the excuse for his living quarters being a dirty mess? To me that would be the most important place, is where the man lived.

Uh no, the entire place is very unkempt, and we know they ransacked the belongings.

I can't get the pictures to load on my pain-in-the-butt computer. But I do think he was a busier man than many realize. Like someone else just said, he was going to turn Paisley into a museum. He seemed to have much less on-site staff and was hiring out for things he needed. The last month of his life was consumed with touring and coping with drug issues. The rest of Paisley (parts normal people could see) were pretty clean from what I saw.

Here is itinerary for the last year or so of his life...In January, there may have been some concern from outsiders about his thinness and some eratic behavior, but looking at clips in the documentary (Prince's Last YEar) from the P and M tour, Baltimore concert, and even the Ray Charles Concert, he seemed to be pushing through and not home much.....until that last month of his life and things get really really rough.

--early months of 2015—recorded much of hitnrun phases 2.

April 2015

--writes Baltimore

May 2nd

--Records Baltimore

--video created for Baltimore in the days following. He wasn't in the video but Prince probably had some say.

May10th—

--Rally for Peace concert in Baltimore (presumably some rehearsal and arrangements done in the days before)

June 13th

--Plays White house gig..( presumably some rehearsal and arrangements done in the days before)

Later June..--performed with Kendrick Lamar at hourse

October 8th

--performance for Madonna (presumably some rehearsal and preparation in the day[s] before hand

November

--recording and performing with Mono Neon (not sure how many days Mono, Adrian and Kirk were working with him on this). (BLack is the New Black album)

December

--St. Bart’s performance (preparation and travel needed)

January 21st

--Piano and Microphone tour starts in Paisley Park (presumably in the preceeding days there was preparation, piano practice, learning to play like Ray --people reported him obsessing over Ray footage)...

Month of February--Australia P and M dates… (much of February seems to have been there. I would guess at least two and half to three weeks..if not the whole month)

March 3—back in America in California..(goes to Warrior’s game)

--Oakland concert March 4, (last time seeing Van Jones after talking to some activists in Oakland)

--March 12—Ray Charles show…plays in chanhaussen.

--March 17th (back in New York at nighclub)…Prince tells people about his memoir. There are also reports of him meeting with Publishers in New York. Presumably he was writing it.

--March 21st—Canada (P and M tour) 2 shows..

--April 7th (First cancelled show after tickets already sold)

--April 14th..does two shows

--April 16th—makes appearance , --April 17th---riding bike

Either the fatal drug overdose was accident or P got upset that week that his overdose would be known and called it quits. But much of the year, he was functioning surprisingly well on those pills. although he seemed nostalgic and often sad that year.

[Edited 6/2/18 15:09pm]

purplerabbithole said:

I can't get the pictures to load on my pain-in-the-butt computer. But I do think he was a busier man than many realize. Like someone else just said, he was going to turn Paisley into a museum. He seemed to have much less on-site staff and was hiring out for things he needed. The last month of his life was consumed with touring and coping with drug issues. The rest of Paisley (parts normal people could see) were pretty clean from what I saw.

Here is itinerary for the last year or so of his life...In January, there may have been some concern from outsiders about his thinness and some eratic behavior, but looking at clips in the documentary (Prince's Last YEar) from the P and M tour, Baltimore concert, and even the Ray Charles Concert, he seemed to be pushing through..until that last month of his life and things get really really rough.

--early months of 2015—recorded much of hitnrun phases 2.

April 2015

--writes Baltimore

May 2^nd

--Records Baltimore

--video created for Baltimore

May10th—

--Rally for Peace concert (presumably some rehearsal and arrangements done in the days before)

June 13^th

--Plays White house gig..( presumably some rehearsal and arrangements done in the days before)

--performed with Kendrick Lamar at hourse

October 8^th

--performance for Madonna

November

--recording and performing with Mono Neon

December

--St. Bart’s performance

January 21^st

--Piano and Microphone tour starts in Paisley Park

Month of February--Australia P and M dates…

March 3—back in America in California..(goes to Warrior’s game)

--Oakland concert March 4, (last time seeing Van Jones after talking to some activists in Oakland)

--March 12—Ray Charles show…plays.

--March 17^th (back in New York at nighclub)…Prince tells people about his memoir.

--March 21^st—Canada (P and M tour) 2 shows..

--April 7^th (First cancelled show after tickets already sold)

--April 14^th..does two shows

--April 16^th—makes appearance , --April 17^th---riding bike

so he was too busy to direct a staff member to get a housekeeping service to clean up the dried urine around his toilet, get an electrician in to make sure the tangle of wires in every room was safe,get the flammable things removed from his garage-pronto, protect The Vault from water incursion and mildew...nope, I'm not buying it. He was checked out of his life. He was just going through the paces.

What's not to buy....all those travel dates are proven, all those recordings are out there. I didn't even include the time it would take for P to write 50 pages of memoir and prepare for the P and M tour. Prince's instagram page has clips of him working with Mono Neon...Prince was not going through the paces. The P and M footage contain some of his best singing and piano playing. He was invested in his work. His work was personal and moving. He was recording with new people, trying new performance styles (solo on the piano), dealing with his limited mobility as best he could... He was not sitting at home pining over lost loves from 20 years ago. It was a tough year for him emotionally, physically, and psychologically and maybe that last month or so, he was starting to think it was all for naught due to the scary prospect of future without pain pills. His last year was a year of ups and downs. Not a year of just descent or drugged out indifference. As for the state of Paisley, he hired a small group of ineffectual, under qualified people for on-site staff and then kept busy writing memoirs, doing a solo tour, writing and performing music with Mono Neon, traveling to Oakland, Baltimore, Atlanta, Australia, Washington D.C, St. Bart's, New York and who knows where else (all while dealing with a drug problem he is trying to conceal) . Wires and clean toilets were something he could worry about later. He had bigger problems and presumably so did everyone else. Prince was a paranoid man in many ways. I doubt he would have let anyone in there to see his enemas and drugs. He would have gotten all that shit out of there before a cleaning staff could come in to clean. He might have been running away from his problems into music and nostalgia and probably had moments of depression (as reported by Judith) but he wasn't just wasting away. If anything, he was working too much. This might be partly why people might not have totally seen his death coming. Despite his problems with pills and other things, he was always the little engine that could.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

purplerabbithole said:

I can't get the pictures to load on my pain-in-the-butt computer. But I do think he was a busier man than many realize. Like someone else just said, he was going to turn Paisley into a museum. He seemed to have much less on-site staff and was hiring out for things he needed. The last month of his life was consumed with touring and coping with drug issues. The rest of Paisley (parts normal people could see) were pretty clean from what I saw.

Here is itinerary for the last year or so of his life...In January, there may have been some concern from outsiders about his thinness and some eratic behavior, but looking at clips in the documentary (Prince's Last YEar) from the P and M tour, Baltimore concert, and even the Ray Charles Concert, he seemed to be pushing through..until that last month of his life and things get really really rough.

--early months of 2015—recorded much of hitnrun phases 2.

April 2015

--writes Baltimore

May 2nd

--Records Baltimore

--video created for Baltimore

May10th—

--Rally for Peace concert (presumably some rehearsal and arrangements done in the days before)

June 13th

--Plays White house gig..( presumably some rehearsal and arrangements done in the days before)

--performed with Kendrick Lamar at hourse

October 8th

--performance for Madonna

November

--recording and performing with Mono Neon

December

--St. Bart’s performance

January 21st

--Piano and Microphone tour starts in Paisley Park

Month of February--Australia P and M dates…

March 3—back in America in California..(goes to Warrior’s game)

--Oakland concert March 4, (last time seeing Van Jones after talking to some activists in Oakland)

--March 12—Ray Charles show…plays.

--March 17th (back in New York at nighclub)…Prince tells people about his memoir.

--March 21st—Canada (P and M tour) 2 shows..

--April 7th (First cancelled show after tickets already sold)

--April 14th..does two shows

--April 16th—makes appearance , --April 17th---riding bike

so he was too busy to direct a staff member to get a housekeeping service to clean up the dried urine around his toilet, get an electrician in to make sure the tangle of wires in every room was safe,get the flammable things removed from his garage-pronto, protect The Vault from water incursion and mildew...nope, I'm not buying it. He was checked out of his life. He was just going through the paces.

[Edited 6/2/18 15:42pm]

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Why some of U are painting Prince's life at the end like he was some sort of a slob and didn't care anymore?

Paisley Park was in the middle of a renovation. He was in the process of preparing the place to become a musuem. He was actually throwing a lot of things out. That's the real reason he ordered his bandmates to get their belongings out of there. Some of those investigative pictures were taken after they ramsacked his belongings looking for evidence. Also the most important places in PP were clean and in order.

Do U honestly think if he was turning it into a musuem he wouldn't have it in tip top shape by then? Use common sense.

[Edited 6/2/18 14:00pm]

Because that is what some of these "fans" do. And have been doing right from the start. Any opportunity to speak badly about him. Go through people's posting history, you'll see it clearly.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

purplerabbithole said:

I can't get the pictures to load on my pain-in-the-butt computer. But I do think he was a busier man than many realize. Like someone else just said, he was going to turn Paisley into a museum. He seemed to have much less on-site staff and was hiring out for things he needed. The last month of his life was consumed with touring and coping with drug issues. The rest of Paisley (parts normal people could see) were pretty clean from what I saw.

Here is itinerary for the last year or so of his life...In January, there may have been some concern from outsiders about his thinness and some eratic behavior, but looking at clips in the documentary (Prince's Last YEar) from the P and M tour, Baltimore concert, and even the Ray Charles Concert, he seemed to be pushing through..until that last month of his life and things get really really rough.

--early months of 2015—recorded much of hitnrun phases 2.

April 2015

--writes Baltimore

May 2^nd

--Records Baltimore

--video created for Baltimore

May10th—

--Rally for Peace concert (presumably some rehearsal and arrangements done in the days before)

June 13^th

--Plays White house gig..( presumably some rehearsal and arrangements done in the days before)

--performed with Kendrick Lamar at hourse

October 8^th

--performance for Madonna

November

--recording and performing with Mono Neon

December

--St. Bart’s performance

January 21^st

--Piano and Microphone tour starts in Paisley Park

Month of February--Australia P and M dates…

March 3—back in America in California..(goes to Warrior’s game)

--Oakland concert March 4, (last time seeing Van Jones after talking to some activists in Oakland)

--March 12—Ray Charles show…plays.

--March 17^th (back in New York at nighclub)…Prince tells people about his memoir.

--March 21^st—Canada (P and M tour) 2 shows..

--April 7^th (First cancelled show after tickets already sold)

--April 14^th..does two shows

--April 16^th—makes appearance , --April 17^th---riding bike

so he was too busy to direct a staff member to get a housekeeping service to clean up the dried urine around his toilet, get an electrician in to make sure the tangle of wires in every room was safe,get the flammable things removed from his garage-pronto, protect The Vault from water incursion and mildew...nope, I'm not buying it. He was checked out of his life. He was just going through the paces.

Wow! Thats a mounting of evidence.

I wouldn't want ANYONE snooping around in my private bedroom/headquarters if I was a superstar like him. The man was in the middle of a tour, writing his memoirs, dealing with debilitating pain issues, & at the same time renovating his massive Paisley Park estate and your worried about his toilet?

Mumio said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

Mumio said:

Because that is what some of these "fans" do. And have been doing right from the start. Any opportunity to speak badly about him. Go through people's posting history, you'll see it clearly.

Didn't know that you decide who's a real fan or Not. Just because some of us think Prince didn't care anymore about his place doesn't mean we're no real fans.

Lol, I don't decide, those people I am speaking of do all of it by themselves.

[Edited 6/2/18 15:50pm]

The thing is that Prince's P and M tour performances...the clip I heard ---are quite moving. They are sad, funny, nostalgic, a throwback, but also inventive and above all musically impressive. He is renovating some of his older songs, breathing new life into some of his newer songs. He was working hard and doing it whilst dealing with (I assume) pain both physically and mentally. He might have given up on some older friends and depressed about a degree of isolation/pain/limitations in his life but it wasn't all bleak. The man, his work, and his life were too complicated for that description. And dealing with his drug problem was too complicated as well (especially since he was considerably high functioning albeit moody and mysterious) . I have two uncles who died from their alcohol addiction. No one knew how to help them either and they werent isolated, surrounded by yes men, rich, compartmentalized, hated, or secretive. Prince might have had moments when he was going through the paces. But overall, he did not seem at all to be doing that. Music was still his therapy. It never stopped being that...and that was maybe part of the problem.

[Edited 6/2/18 15:54pm]

Mumio said:

Because that is what some of these "fans" do. And have been doing right from the start. Any opportunity to speak badly about him. Go through people's posting history, you'll see it clearly.

?What are you talking about? You've got eyes, take a look at the photos and tell us what you see. Photo's don't lie.

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

so he was too busy to direct a staff member to get a housekeeping service to clean up the dried urine around his toilet, get an electrician in to make sure the tangle of wires in every room was safe,get the flammable things removed from his garage-pronto, protect The Vault from water incursion and mildew...nope, I'm not buying it. He was checked out of his life. He was just going through the paces.

Wow! Thats a mounting of evidence.

I wouldn't want ANYONE snooping around in my private bedroom/headquarters if I was a superstar like him. The man was in the middle of a tour, writing his memoirs, dealing with debilitating pain issues, & at the same time renovating his massive Paisley Park estate and your worried about his toilet?

Well you would think that at least his home would be clean. Lot's of Superstars out there who's homes don't look like that....

Prince might not have cared that much about that home of his and I say GOOD. Paisley Park was a double edged sword. I prefer to think the real Paisley Park was in his heart like the song says. Not in that outdated bubble he sometimes used as a crutch. The only parts of Paisley I have any love for are the recording studio and the stages (maybe that little dinner where he hung with musicians and the backetball court.), but the doves, and the atrium ...ugh.. the more out in the world he was the better. If it was sterilized, prestine and museum like while he was still living, I am not sure that would have indicated a healthy existance either.. The vault depresses me a bit, but it looked more outdated and undermanaged than gross or dirty. Prince probably didn't like to think of himself as old--so maybe he didn't want to look back too much and start categorizing etc.

ThatWhiteDude said:

Mumio said:

Because that is what some of these "fans" do. And have been doing right from the start. Any opportunity to speak badly about him. Go through people's posting history, you'll see it clearly.

Didn't know that you decide who's a real fan or Not. Just because some of us think Prince didn't care anymore about his place doesn't mean we're no real fans.

PennyPurple said:

Mumio said:

Because that is what some of these "fans" do. And have been doing right from the start. Any opportunity to speak badly about him. Go through people's posting history, you'll see it clearly.

?What are you talking about? You've got eyes, take a look at the photos and tell us what you see. Photo's don't lie.

Penny, I find it interesting that you suddenly swoop out of nowhere on some of this stuff. Given that....I am gonna take a pass on responding to your comments.

But I will make one comment: photos DO lie if there's been staging done....and that is all I am gonna say about that.

He is not any superstar. Anyhow, any superstar that lets you takes pictures of his/her house has cleaned it or had his staff clean it up before. You can't predict a drug crisis and death investigation. When that happens a clean house is low on priorities. Do you remember Prince's 3121 room..that was resplendent and he was supposedly already popping pills.

PennyPurple said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Wow! Thats a mounting of evidence.

I wouldn't want ANYONE snooping around in my private bedroom/headquarters if I was a superstar like him. The man was in the middle of a tour, writing his memoirs, dealing with debilitating pain issues, & at the same time renovating his massive Paisley Park estate and your worried about his toilet?

Well you would think that at least his home would be clean. Lot's of Superstars out there who's homes don't look like that....

PennyPurple said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Wow! Thats a mounting of evidence.

I wouldn't want ANYONE snooping around in my private bedroom/headquarters if I was a superstar like him. The man was in the middle of a tour, writing his memoirs, dealing with debilitating pain issues, & at the same time renovating his massive Paisley Park estate and your worried about his toilet?

Well you would think that at least his home would be clean. Lot's of Superstars out there who's homes don't look like that....

It must of not been that bad like U claim if Judith snuggled up next to him in it.

You think Prince was murdered too? Good Grief. NO, I think the dude did this to himself by being too compartmentalized, secretive, control-freaky, fearful, and insistent on dealing with his problems alone. It is no less tragic that he rendered those who might have wanted to help him (if they knew the full picture) helpless (yes, everyone knew but how MUCH did they know is more the question and how much would their help had been accepted??). The mass of men live lives of quiet desperation as Thoreau once wrote.

Mumio said:

PennyPurple said:

?What are you talking about? You've got eyes, take a look at the photos and tell us what you see. Photo's don't lie.

Penny, I find it interesting that you suddenly swoop out of nowhere on some of this stuff. Given that....I am gonna take a pass on responding to your comments.

But I will make one comment: photos DO lie if there's been staging done....and that is all I am gonna say about that.

[Edited 6/2/18 16:19pm]

Mumio said:

PennyPurple said:

?What are you talking about? You've got eyes, take a look at the photos and tell us what you see. Photo's don't lie.

Penny, I find it interesting that you suddenly swoop out of nowhere on some of this stuff. Given that....I am gonna take a pass on responding to your comments.

But I will make one comment: photos DO lie if there's been staging done....and that is all I am gonna say about that.

How I swoop down out of nowhere? I'm the one who mentioned the dirty toilet several pages back.

The police photos aren't staged. Did they stage the urine all over the toilet and floor? Did they stage all the dirt on the cars? Did they stage the dirt on the kitchen floor where the grout was supposed to be white, but is black?

PennyPurple said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

PennyPurple said:

Well you would think that at least his home would be clean. Lot's of Superstars out there who's homes don't look like that....

It must of not been that bad like U claim if Judith snuggled up next to him in it.

She may have snuggled up with him there, but she didn't stay, she had a room at the motel that she went back to.

How bad was it when you were there?

You've got eyes too...take a look at the pics. They don't lie.

[Edited 6/2/18 16:23pm]

PennyPurple said:

Mumio said:

Penny, I find it interesting that you suddenly swoop out of nowhere on some of this stuff. Given that....I am gonna take a pass on responding to your comments.

But I will make one comment: photos DO lie if there's been staging done....and that is all I am gonna say about that.

How I swoop down out of nowhere? I'm the one who mentioned the dirty toilet several pages back.

The police photos aren't staged. Did they stage the urine all over the toilet and floor? Did they stage all the dirt on the cars? Did they stage the dirt on the kitchen floor where the grout was supposed to be white, but is black?

You are very welcome to think whatever it is that you want to think about these things, I am not trying to change your mind. I am also not trying to convince you to think differently about it. I said what I had to say...that is all.

purplerabbithole said:

He is not any superstar. Anyhow, any superstar that lets you takes pictures of his/her house has cleaned it or had his staff clean it up before. You can't predict a drug crisis and death investigation. When that happens a clean house is low on priorities. Do you remember Prince's 3121 room..that was resplendent and he was supposedly already popping pills.

PennyPurple said:

Well you would think that at least his home would be clean. Lot's of Superstars out there who's homes don't look like that....

C'mon, he was gone so much that he could've had a cleaning crew come in. The drugs were always with him, in his black bag, that he carried everywhere.

I am going to assume the pee was recent..since there was a drug crisis that occurred right after he returned from a tour. Grout turns black especially in older houses and if too much water and detergent is used. . He needed renovations obviously. Dirt on the floor...was there a lot or just from foot traffic. It rains in April. The house needed cleaning but since he was touring and then dealing with a health crisis, I am sure that went to the waist side. I don't remember the cars looking too dirty..but I don't know maybe you are right. HIs little bedroom was disconcerting but maybe he was just secretly kind of Dare-I-Say HUMBLE>

ThatWhiteDude said:

PennyPurple said:

How I swoop down out of nowhere? I'm the one who mentioned the dirty toilet several pages back.

The police photos aren't staged. Did they stage the urine all over the toilet and floor? Did they stage all the dirt on the cars? Did they stage the dirt on the kitchen floor where the grout was supposed to be white, but is black?

[Edited 6/2/18 16:38pm]

If I recall, the drugs weren't just in his bag. The enemas were in his bathroom. But regardless, a dirty house may not indicate more than a chaotic life. HIs last year was definitely chaotic.

PennyPurple said:

purplerabbithole said:

He is not any superstar. Anyhow, any superstar that lets you takes pictures of his/her house has cleaned it or had his staff clean it up before. You can't predict a drug crisis and death investigation. When that happens a clean house is low on priorities. Do you remember Prince's 3121 room..that was resplendent and he was supposedly already popping pills.

C'mon, he was gone so much that he could've had a cleaning crew come in. The drugs were always with him, in his black bag, that he carried everywhere.

purplerabbithole said:

I am going to assume the pee was recent..since there was a drug crisis that occurred right after he returned from a tour. Grout turns black especially in older houses. He needed renovations obviously. Dirt on the floor...was there a lot or just from foot traffic. It rains in April. The house needed cleaning but since he was touring and then dealing with a health crisis, I am sure that went to the waist side. I don't remember the cars looking too dirty..but I don't know maybe you are right. HIs little bedroom was disconcerting but maybe he was just secretly kind of Dare-I-Say HUMBLE>

The grout on the kitchen floor was black, you look at the same kitchen floor under the carts, fridge and other things, the grout is white or cream. It needed a deep clean which evidently hadn't been done in years.

The urine in the corner and behind the stool, on the floor didn't look recent, it looked built up.

I don't expect Prince to clean his place, what I expected was Prince having somebody clean the place.

It almost is if he lost hisself respect or he stopped caring at all.