ya, that was really heartbreaking to read.
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TrcikyChristopher said:
I want to apologize first to anyone who thinks I'm being manipulative or going through a song and dance about something that is serious. It's not my intention to seem obtuse. . I'm going to answer a few things under the confines of what I've been allowed to discuss. Please bear in mind the following: while I don't know myself what happened because I wasn't there, I've been given info that was specific enough for me to believe them. After this, I'm not bringing it up again because it's become more trouble than it's worth to "say things without saying them".
To clarify: according to what I was told, these are the alleged health problems I can talk about. I'm saying "alleged" profusely from now on (sorry), not because I don't necessarily believe it or because it's false, but to cover my own ass and the people who told me the info 2 years ago and told me what I could and could not divulge. My sources are still around. My reluctance to publicly relay specifics is out of loyalty to them - not the estate, not the fans, not even Prince himself because his intense need for privacy at all costs led to this confusion to begin with. I will love Prince and his music forever, but these past 2 years of "I know but won't tell" is draining. Anything that I don't divulge is for my sources to divulge in their own time and on their own terms.
1) I was told that there were allegedly significant health issues (re-occurring) that were unrelated to his pain med use and that he was actively fighting them. My sources had no knowledge of any pain med abuse. Regarding his actual pain med abuse, the alleged OD in 2010/2011 where he almost died was completely unrelated to his other alleged health issues. Those came later.
2) I was told that it was NOT HIV/AIDS but allegedly mimicked some of the symptoms and may have explained other alleged symptoms or diagnoses, including symptoms most recently revealed. My sources only referred to one alleged diagnosis. The blind item that went out 3 days before he passed (as "close, but no cigar" as it was) cannot be challenged nor can tabloids be held accountable because once he DID pass, under the law, the deceased cannot be defamed. That is the reason for the lack of libel lawsuits. In my case, I choose not to say more because my sources are still lurking about.
3) Given the release of information since April of 2016, especially the most recent, any officially released info or documentation does not necessarily discount what I was told.
4) Associates (and I use the word broadly) saying things like "I knew 2 years before he died" or things of that nature fall in line with everything I was told in 2016. Sidenote - in certain cases, that does not necessarily mean that they were as "associated" to Prince at the time as they currently make it out to be.
Again, the reason why I'm not saying much more than that is out of respect for the people who provided said info to me. I really hope people understand that I'm not trying to mindfuck anyone. I'm just trying to let people know that yes, according to my sources, allegedly, there were other issues. Serious issues that under other circumstances could have and should have been prevented. In the end, though, Prince's personal decisions outside of (and in tandem with) those alleged issues is why he's not here today. Don't shoot the messenger. It's the people within his circle that DO know that can easily confirm or deny things that keep this guessing going. As for me, I'm done. Thank you TC. Now please lets stop hounding this man for any more info. | |
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uhh, i was quoting what mulefunk had said, i didn't "say" that and i'm still open to all other options including the "official" finding. Mule was supposedly writing a book but homeboy made himself scarce since the official report came out, he was pushing the murder theory too I believe, (unless i'm getting org names mixed up, forgive me if i am.). | |
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Honestly. I read your post twice. And I still have no clue of what it adds to what we already now. (There's a lot of 'i' and 'me' and self protection, but obviously I do understand that.) No offence. "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) | |
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for me, in a strange way MJ's death prepped me for Prince, by the time april 21st came I had at least been through profound mourning before and kinda knew what to expect. I also lost my boxing hero Hector Camacho and it just didn't seem real, for months I was in that state. So, although, my grief for Prince is possibly greater, it's from the vantage point of experience and knowing what to expect.
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It may have not "added to what you already know" but it detailed what I was told and allowed to discuss in one fell swoop for everyone. I actually clarified a few things if you paid attention over the past 2 years. I can't, and won't, discuss anything else publicly. [Edited 5/18/18 13:48pm] | |
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TrcikyChristopher said:
It may have not "added to what you already know" but it detailed what I was told and allowed to discuss in one fell swoop for everyone. I actually clarified a few things if you paid attention over the past 2 years. I can't, and won't, discuss anything else publicly. [Edited 5/18/18 13:48pm] I find the post to be cryptic about alleged other health issues. There is nothing in the investigation about other medical problems. Unless I see an autopsy report stating other issues, then I will view this as accidental overdose. | |
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TrcikyChristopher said:
It may have not "added to what you already know" but it detailed what I was told and allowed to discuss in one fell swoop for everyone. I actually clarified a few things if you paid attention over the past 2 years. I can't, and won't, discuss anything else publicly. [Edited 5/18/18 13:48pm] What did you get this info from the mafia? You better do what "they" say or else!!..fa la la la | |
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. Yes, that is what I believe. He was barely eating or sleeping, from what was told. If his diet only consisted of 5-Hour Energy drinks and pain pills, it would make sense why he was looking gaunt.
"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) | |
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. Very wise words, indeed. . Life can be cruel; but it is a beautiful life; it is a precious gift to treasure. . I am very much like you; I consider myself to be old skool, so I guess I have that in common with Prince. I am an old soul. I am not big into technology and I don't care much about social media or feel the need to keep up with celebrities and such -- EXCEPT for Prince, of course!
"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) | |
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. I just don't get a good vibe from Tyka, and my gut-instincts are usually right about people. . I have not seen Tyka's IG in a while. So, she upgraded from the Michael Kors now?
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. I knew weird things were going on with MJ, but his sudden death still stunned me. . With Prince: I never saw it coming. I was in a complete state of shock.
"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) | |
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Prince DID NOT have AIDS! I've seen many people suffering from it and I know what it looks like. If U are a "supposed" ICU nurse, U would know ANYONE diagnosed with any disease like AIDS is automatically registered with the Center for Disease Control. The news would have leaked like quick sand if it was Prince.
Prince DID NOT have an undisclosed illness. If so it would have leaked by now and the investigation showed no clues or signs whatsoever of him having ANYTHING but withdrawal symptoms and slight anemia. .
Also Prince looked GREAT going into the doctors office with Kirk the day before. That WAS NOT a man in the last stages of AIDS or any illness.
Prince just took a dose of a unknowingly laced fentanyl opiate. From the same batch of pills he took the week prior before the Moline plane landing . "That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |
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Honestly. I read your post twice. And I still have no clue of what it adds to what we already now. (There's a lot of 'i' and 'me' and self protection, but obviously I do understand that.) No offence. Agreed. That post says absolutely nothing. | |
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. I do not believe that Prince was battling any kind of life-threatening disease. . His cause of death was Fentanyl overdose, and nothing else. . Some believe that it was suicide, and Prince wanted to make it look like an accident -- OR, someone else wanted to make it look like an accident. . What I find very strange is that the day Prince was found deceased inside his elevator was the day Dr. Schulenberg was bringing Prince's blood test results. So, if Prince had decided to end his life due to pain/addiction/possible life-threatening disease, he did so without getting his test results?? .
. Furthermore, according to the investigation, Andrew Kornfeld said he was not aware that Dr. Schulenberg was coming over on the 21st of April. Why is that? Dr. Schulenberg was in contact with Howard Kornfeld, so why wouldn't Andrew have this information? . It's just beyond crazy!
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"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) | |
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TrcikyChristopher said:
It may have not "added to what you already know" but it detailed what I was told and allowed to discuss in one fell swoop for everyone. I actually clarified a few things if you paid attention over the past 2 years. I can't, and won't, discuss anything else publicly. [Edited 5/18/18 13:48pm] So Prince, who fought for his first record deal & got it, who fought for a movie deal when he was completely out of his element and got it, who fought for freedom from his WB contract and got it, who fought for his masters and got them...gets a curable illness and says to himself ok, I'm done ... | |
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Thank you TC. | |
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^^^^^^^^ So Prince, who fought for his first record deal & got it, who fought for a movie deal when he was completely out of his element and got it, who fought for freedom from his WB contract and got it, who fought for his masters and got them...gets a curable illness and says to himself ok, I'm done ...
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RJP1205: Those were some of the most beautiful words I've read here in a long time! Thanks for keeping it real!!
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cloveringold85 said: ^^^^^ So Prince, who fought for his first record deal & got it, who fought for a movie deal when he was completely out of his element and got it, who fought for freedom from his WB contract and got it, who fought for his masters and got them...gets a curable illness and says to himself ok, I'm done ...
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RJP1205: Those were some of the most beautiful words I've read here in a long time! Thanks for keeping it real!!
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Actually Dr. S wasn't supposed to be there to deliver the results, when he spoke with KJ, he was going to fax them over, but KJ said that they didn't have a fax, just to drop them by. When KJ spoke with Dr. S, they didn't know that Prince was already gone. | |
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- In your latest post, however, you say this mystery condition was unrelated to his opioid use. But it was the opioids that killed him. So... huh? - Anyway, you claim to be tremendously disturbed by "2 years of confusion." But the REASON that there is "confusion" on sites like this one is precidely because of posts like yours, from people who claim "insider access" and proceed to volunteer vague, confusing info, then refuse to answer questions out of "respect" for "sources." And guess what: If you in fact do have relevant non-public info that you feel should be widely known, and you choose not to share, then you ARE one of those "insiders" who annoy you so much. - Perhaps someday you'll be less fearful of your alleged "sources" (people who apparently disgust you with their publc silence yet you still feel beholden to obey, because... why again? Whatever, doesn't matter). Until then, bye and take care.
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That is not what I said. At all. What I said is that he did die of an overdose. That does NOT negate anything else. I did not say that he said to himself "I'm done". Far from it. As I stated years ago, he was allegedly prohibited due to his allegedly wavering beliefs from specific ways to help himself. Those beliefs also allegedly prohibited him from getting a full hip replacement years earlier. Compound that with supposed "faith healing", and there's a perfect storm of trouble. The 2 alleged issues were not necessarily correlated.
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co-sign...what are they gonna do to TC, break kneecaps?, not give them any more juicy inside info to tease and bother people on the org.?I think if he/she burns his 'sources' he's going to have to find another way to get his/her jollies. Tricky my ass...how about jusr annoying...and immature. | |
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ya, mj for me, was the first of my childhood heroes, from my own era (ie, not elvis, jimi) to go and it made me feel old and very sad of course. however, i worried about MJ for years, i thought he really was a broken man after the trials/molestation stuff and I really didn't think the rest of his life would go smoothly. Prince? really just blindsided me, as i said, the only positive was that I'd had experience with losing heroes before. As a musician, these guys mean a little different a thing than they do to the rest of you, not to say i'm better or anything like that, it's when one of your key influences go, it really does feel a bit like a parent dying. | |
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His alleged illness compounded an already existing issue with pain meds. I've explained why I'm not elaborating multiple times. | |
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was he really looking that skinny? to me, the stated 112 pounds wasn't far off from what he always weighed, that's only a few pounds however, autopsy results have been known to be way off. to me it's his eyes that don't look right, prince was always clear eyed and he just didn't look right, his makeup didn't look right either but he always was small, some have said things like you could see his backbones through his clothes but compared to how whitney houston looked at the mj thing, he looked ok. | |
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. Thanks for refreshing my memory! "With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) | |
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. TC: There is a technical glitch with these posts; sometimes when someone replies to another person, it does not quote properly. . It was RJP1205 that made the comment about "I'm done".
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