TrcikyChristopher said:

peggyon said:

TrickyChristopher, I know you cannot divulge too much of what you know, but I am curious...in this 2 year "back-and-forth" multi-thread discussion, have any of the org posters "come close" or actually identified the truth of the matter surrounding Prince's health?

Yes. Very close.

Thanks, I kinda thought so. I am sensing there is legacy/reputation management going on. Also, how would the truth affect the worth of his estate?

I understand you are in a delicate situation, so no need to repsond

peggyon said:

TrcikyChristopher said:

Yes. Very close.

Thanks, I kinda thought so. I am sensing there is legacy/reputation management going on. Also, how would the truth affect the worth of his estate?

I understand you are in a delicate situation, so no need to repsond

the entire reason I thought it was Aids was because of this pussyfooting, i couldn't see the shame in having leukemia,pancreatic cancer and even the alzheimers thing didn't sound believable especailly considering the source. I just don't get it, but,,. that family, none of them have their heads on straight enough to keep a secret so it'll get out. Be glad when it does, i never liked the "just another junkie" angle and although we see had a real problem with pills, it'll alleviate things to know there was a damned good reason for them.

Menes said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

Bodhitheblackdog said: Last year i also had an inside source ( she is legit) told me that prince had pancreatic cancer but she was wrong, i believe that people did get info from legit people but i think they were looking for awnsers and guessing

And you swallowed it hook, line and sinker. At least you were consistent in getting dragged around with that hook in your nostrils. You don't remember how adamant about it you were? You should have your "inside source" quarantined or committed, for her arrogance is the type that would have innocent people jailed, railroaded and put to death with her bluster of truth. Yet you say ...(" she is legit") . Oh the irony.

Just like the other naive cult worshippers that were waiting for a "book", an FBI investigation into his imaginary ties to the BLM "revolutionary" group that caused his death by the "man/ record label/ former spies in a Russian Gulag... Lastly, and worst of all, those who still await additional scientific and mathematical information to support what a secretive and unhealthy life he lived. It's all the same. Still in denial.

Yo Menes, how dare you let MuleFunk off in this recap of weak-minded, weak-kneed, bullshit bluster and fantasy trippin', needin'-attention, manupulating, controlling, twisted game-playing, shit-spewing spray of hate-for-reality waste of human breath and the glory of words which have the God-given capacity to have meaning and power. Anyone who professed or professes to love Prince should have some respect for the meaning and power of words and NOT use them mindlessly to hurt, confuse, stress or otherwise harm his still-suffering true fans. Otherwise, Love Always, xoxo.

Menes said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

Bodhitheblackdog said: Last year i also had an inside source ( she is legit) told me that prince had pancreatic cancer but she was wrong, i believe that people did get info from legit people but i think they were looking for awnsers and guessing

And you swallowed it hook, line and sinker. At least you were consistent in getting dragged around with that hook in your nostrils. You don't remember how adamant about it you were? You should have your "inside source" quarantined or committed, for her arrogance is the type that would have innocent people jailed, railroaded and put to death with her bluster of truth. Yet you say ...(" she is legit") . Oh the irony.

Just like the other naive cult worshippers that were waiting for a "book", an FBI investigation into his imaginary ties to the BLM "revolutionary" group that caused his death by the "man/ record label/ former spies in a Russian Gulag... Lastly, and worst of all, those who still await additional scientific and mathematical information to support what a secretive and unhealthy life he lived. It's all the same. Still in denial.

ya, that was ridiculous, made absolutely no sense but I know and love my black brothers, it's not all their fault that they see conspiracies behind every bush.

fortuneandserendipity said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

OMG Pete, you are SOOOOOOOO romantic!

Meanwhile Laura would be racing to Paisley Park in an effort to recover his sweaty unwashed clothing as well as discarded photos of his ex-lovers so she could make voodoo dolls out of them (while not forgetting to pocket, then trash anything that remotely hinted 'drug addict' - including glue and marker pens) !!!

now, now, laura was a lot of things but wasn't no freak.

PeteSilas said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

Meanwhile Laura would be racing to Paisley Park in an effort to recover his sweaty unwashed clothing as well as discarded photos of his ex-lovers so she could make voodoo dolls out of them (while not forgetting to pocket, then trash anything that remotely hinted 'drug addict' - including glue and marker pens) !!!

now, now, laura was a lot of things but wasn't no freak.

[Snip - luv4u]

Menes said:

PeteSilas said:

now, now, laura was a lot of things but wasn't no freak.

[Snip - luv4u]

huh? servicing? I should be so lucky, i'm not good enough.

If he had AIDS and was desperate to keep that a secret, why on earth would he allow Dr S to draw and retain blood for testing? Even if he didn't specifically approve an AIDS test on that blood, why would he even chance it? No way of hiding AIDS in blood.

PeteSilas said:

peggyon said:

Thanks, I kinda thought so. I am sensing there is legacy/reputation management going on. Also, how would the truth affect the worth of his estate?

I understand you are in a delicate situation, so no need to repsond

the entire reason I thought it was Aids was because of this pussyfooting, i couldn't see the shame in having leukemia,pancreatic cancer and even the alzheimers thing didn't sound believable especailly considering the source. I just don't get it, but,,. that family, none of them have their heads on straight enough to keep a secret so it'll get out. Be glad when it does, i never liked the "just another junkie" angle and although we see had a real problem with pills, it'll alleviate things to know there was a damned good reason for them.

I'm just going to throw this out there, because I thought this lyric was strange in the middle of a song in which he is singing "U know how much I want you, U know how much I care"...U Know from AOA. But partway through the song is this lyric:


If U really wanna find the answer 2 this cancer, then we must rewind

Then nevermind the 1st opinion, opinion
(U better ask somebody else)

disch said:

If he had AIDS and was desperate to keep that a secret, why on earth would he allow Dr S to draw and retain blood for testing? Even if he didn't specifically approve an AIDS test on that blood, why would he even chance it? No way of hiding AIDS in blood.

PeteSilas said:

the entire reason I thought it was Aids was because of this pussyfooting, i couldn't see the shame in having leukemia,pancreatic cancer and even the alzheimers thing didn't sound believable especailly considering the source. I just don't get it, but,,. that family, none of them have their heads on straight enough to keep a secret so it'll get out. Be glad when it does, i never liked the "just another junkie" angle and although we see had a real problem with pills, it'll alleviate things to know there was a damned good reason for them.

i'm explaining the logic of why i thought it was possible, not what we know now. I still don't get the secrecy, nothing is more depressing to me than another drugged out hero, and yes, that includes aids.

https://www.thepetitionsite.com/421/017/009/prince-homicide-grand-jury-investigation-demanded/

[Edited 5/17/18 12:59pm]

peggyon said:

TrcikyChristopher said:

Yes. Very close.

Thanks, I kinda thought so. I am sensing there is legacy/reputation management going on. Also, how would the truth affect the worth of his estate?

I understand you are in a delicate situation, so no need to repsond

I don't believe the information I received would have any affect on legacy, reputation or the estate's worth whatsoever.

PeteSilas said:

Menes said:

And you swallowed it hook, line and sinker. At least you were consistent in getting dragged around with that hook in your nostrils. You don't remember how adamant about it you were? You should have your "inside source" quarantined or committed, for her arrogance is the type that would have innocent people jailed, railroaded and put to death with her bluster of truth. Yet you say ...(" she is legit") . Oh the irony.

Just like the other naive cult worshippers that were waiting for a "book", an FBI investigation into his imaginary ties to the BLM "revolutionary" group that caused his death by the "man/ record label/ former spies in a Russian Gulag... Lastly, and worst of all, those who still await additional scientific and mathematical information to support what a secretive and unhealthy life he lived. It's all the same. Still in denial.

ya, that was ridiculous, made absolutely no sense but I know and love my black brothers, it's not all their fault that they see conspiracies behind every bush.

With all due respect, this has nothing to do with being "black". This is merely an everyday event of one person who is blinded by his/her own emotional state manipulating the minds of others. She/he was successful and is quite telling. Some of the bandwagoners were so far gone that even if Prince were to come alive and say, " I enjoyed being high" ,they would crucify him.

Menes said:

PeteSilas said:

ya, that was ridiculous, made absolutely no sense but I know and love my black brothers, it's not all their fault that they see conspiracies behind every bush.

With all due respect, this has nothing to do with being "black". This is merely an everyday event of one person who is blinded by his/her own emotional state manipulating the minds of others. She/he was successful and is quite telling. Some of the bandwagoners were so far gone that even if Prince were to come alive and say, " I enjoyed being high" ,they would crucify him.

all due respect, i've been around black folk all my life, it's just a part of the induced psychosis that comes with being in this country. I try not to be too harsh on it, Prince did it too, you know. A black activist from the 60's once said "if a black man isn't schizoid he must be crazy", it's true. So, when I see a Dick Gregory, or some other black guy running off at the mouth, i try not to be too harsh. where mulefunk was coming from? only he knows but ya, murder is a ridiculous theory for what it's worth.

Menes said:

PeteSilas said:

huh? servicing? I should be so lucky, i'm not good enough.

You do realize that your only shot at this is to join the lipsitck alley business model and defend her honor. Word is that she gets pummelled over there quite frequently. Tough girl.

i don't know how you guys get around over there, i can't and i won't join that trash site.

TrcikyChristopher said:

peggyon said:

Thanks, I kinda thought so. I am sensing there is legacy/reputation management going on. Also, how would the truth affect the worth of his estate?

I understand you are in a delicate situation, so no need to repsond

I don't believe the information I received would have any affect on legacy, reputation or the estate's worth whatsoever.

Then why all the secrecy from the family if P's illness would not affect his legacy, etc...? I understand your not telling us; I don't believe you're family so not your place at all to do so.

Unless it's P's instructions/wishes...

TrcikyChristopher said:

peggyon said:

Thanks, I kinda thought so. I am sensing there is legacy/reputation management going on. Also, how would the truth affect the worth of his estate?

I understand you are in a delicate situation, so no need to repsond

I don't believe the information I received would have any affect on legacy, reputation or the estate's worth whatsoever.

OMG...my drivel meter is pegged out!!!

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

He was like that for most of the show apart form when he was sat at the keyboard where he seemed to find some peace. His outfit was immaculate btw inc Gold Heels! He was in an angry mood & actually threw the guitar half way across the stage at the guitar tech - my god the anger in his face was truly scary especially when we were inches away! The thing that stood out was how unhealthy he looked, his face was puffy, he looked in pain. He still gave it his all though.

Is this the show when he left the stage and left the band hanging and eventually he came back out?

you can read about the show here starting ar #93....its interesting as it seems some people were there just so they could see Prince while they could ,,,and someone remarks that P is only 55 years old and still has along way to go...little did we know

http://prince.org/msg/12/407247?pr

Thank you for your account, however, I'm sure that it was difficult to fully enjoy the concert. Sad.

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

stlmuziqlvr said:

Purpleized3121, did he look this way during the entire concert or just when he was releasing the balloons? I can see why that would be heartbreaking for you.

Also, thank you, I've only seen some of the 3EG concerts on YT; I did not notice that he included black balloons with the purple and white. Agree, he did everything for a reason.

He was like that for most of the show apart form when he was sat at the keyboard where he seemed to find some peace. His outfit was immaculate btw inc Gold Heels! He was in an angry mood & actually threw the guitar half way across the stage at the guitar tech - my god the anger in his face was truly scary especially when we were inches away! The thing that stood out was how unhealthy he looked, his face was puffy, he looked in pain. He still gave it his all though.

Thanks, 80tomato, I'll take a look.

80tomato said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Is this the show when he left the stage and left the band hanging and eventually he came back out?

you can read about the show here starting ar #93....its interesting as it seems some people were there just so they could see Prince while they could ,,,and someone remarks that P is only 55 years old and still has along way to go...little did we know

http://prince.org/msg/12/407247?pr

Menes said:

PeteSilas said:

all due respect, i've been around black folk all my life, it's just a part of the induced psychosis that comes with being in this country. I try not to be too harsh on it, Prince did it too, you know. A black activist from the 60's once said "if a black man isn't schizoid he must be crazy", it's true. So, when I see a Dick Gregory, or some other black guy running off at the mouth, i try not to be too harsh. where mulefunk was coming from? only he knows but ya, murder is a ridiculous theory for what it's worth.

You are very kind to the Mule and perhaps equating the Mule to an entire populus.This is hardly something that makes any sense but I do understand your sympathy. Me? I have no sympathy for dumb.

i do remember mule saying he was told by insiders that it was leukemia via aids. the talk that there were other issues will go on for a while yet.

stlmuziqlvr said:

Thank you for your account, however, I'm sure that it was difficult to fully enjoy the concert. Sad.

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

He was like that for most of the show apart form when he was sat at the keyboard where he seemed to find some peace. His outfit was immaculate btw inc Gold Heels! He was in an angry mood & actually threw the guitar half way across the stage at the guitar tech - my god the anger in his face was truly scary especially when we were inches away! The thing that stood out was how unhealthy he looked, his face was puffy, he looked in pain. He still gave it his all though.

one more thing when talking about Prince and his "erratic" behavior, how do we know when it was drugs and when i t was Prince, Prince was always difficult and wierd and came off as being crazy or on drugs, it's just who he was, and yes, a big part of that is because he was a genius, genius' aren't always the most patient people.

PeteSilas said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

PeteSilas said:

one more thing when talking about Prince and his "erratic" behavior, how do we know when it was drugs and when i t was Prince, Prince was always difficult and wierd and came off as being crazy or on drugs, it's just who he was, and yes, a big part of that is because he was a genius, genius' aren't always the most patient people.

If you read the files, sheila e said around 2011 he wasn't acting like himself ( she would know) he was acting strange and loopy

i don't doubt it, i'm just pointing out how Prince has been since the beginning, w/o any drugs whatsoever.

2004Fan said:

TrcikyChristopher said:

I don't believe the information I received would have any affect on legacy, reputation or the estate's worth whatsoever.

Then why all the secrecy from the family if P's illness would not affect his legacy, etc...? I understand your not telling us; I don't believe you're family so not your place at all to do so.

Unless it's P's instructions/wishes...

Exactly.

I'm not quite sure the reason for the secrecy myself.

Seems to me that different people only had different bits of info based on their proximity to Prince, emotionally or otherwise, and he kept his distance and his life to himself. I find it telling that he was allegedly letting people know to remove their belongings from PP, though.

TrcikyChristopher said:

2004Fan said:

Then why all the secrecy from the family if P's illness would not affect his legacy, etc...? I understand your not telling us; I don't believe you're family so not your place at all to do so.

Unless it's P's instructions/wishes...

Exactly.

I'm not quite sure the reason for the secrecy myself.

Seems to me that different people only had different bits of info based on their proximity to Prince, emotionally or otherwise, and he kept his distance and his life to himself. I find it telling that he was allegedly letting people know to remove their belongings from PP, though.

was he really telling people that? or is it another story? where is the hard proof? It sounds as if the "shot's fired at paisley" has been debunked but those kinds of rumours shouldn't even get traction.

PeteSilas said:

TrcikyChristopher said:

Exactly.

I'm not quite sure the reason for the secrecy myself.

Seems to me that different people only had different bits of info based on their proximity to Prince, emotionally or otherwise, and he kept his distance and his life to himself. I find it telling that he was allegedly letting people know to remove their belongings from PP, though.

was he really telling people that? or is it another story? where is the hard proof? It sounds as if the "shot's fired at paisley" has been debunked but those kinds of rumours shouldn't even get traction.

Agreed. Not sure if that story is true but would kind of make sense given what I've been told. Not so much out of any paranoia, but out of his need to prepare people around him for his eventual passing while being hopeful that wouldn't be the case.

TrcikyChristopher said:

2004Fan said:

Then why all the secrecy from the family if P's illness would not affect his legacy, etc...? I understand your not telling us; I don't believe you're family so not your place at all to do so.

Unless it's P's instructions/wishes...

Exactly.

I'm not quite sure the reason for the secrecy myself.

Seems to me that different people only had different bits of info based on their proximity to Prince, emotionally or otherwise, and he kept his distance and his life to himself. I find it telling that he was allegedly letting people know to remove their belongings from PP, though.

Plus throwing away full bins of his items.

how truly confidenct are you in this inside information?

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Like, did these insiders tell you that prince said:

"I'm dying of incurable disease <name here>. My death is incipient so prepare yourself."

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Or do they claim that prince said something more general than that? Do you feel confident your sources are not applying hindsight to this communication, or otherwise interpreting inaccurately?

TrcikyChristopher said:

PeteSilas said:

was he really telling people that? or is it another story? where is the hard proof? It sounds as if the "shot's fired at paisley" has been debunked but those kinds of rumours shouldn't even get traction.

Agreed. Not sure if that story is true but would kind of make sense given what I've been told. Not so much out of any paranoia, but out of his need to prepare people around him for his eventual passing while being hopeful that wouldn't be the case.

TrcikyChristopher said:

PeteSilas said:

was he really telling people that? or is it another story? where is the hard proof? It sounds as if the "shot's fired at paisley" has been debunked but those kinds of rumours shouldn't even get traction.

Agreed. Not sure if that story is true but would kind of make sense given what I've been told. Not so much out of any paranoia, but out of his need to prepare people around him for his eventual passing while being hopeful that wouldn't be the case.

well, thanks for your info tricky, you sound sincere anyways.