cloveringold85 said:

benni said:

Pete, it wasn't anyone that anyone on here would know. She was "just a fan" that Prince took an interest in and befriended. And no, it wasn't one of the fake Prince's that used to frequent the internet, pretending to be him. She actually used to hang at PP and had pictures of private areas of PP that you wouldn't see if you were just there for one of the concerts. I didn't ask her for details, didn't want to know details. And unfortunately, in this situation, I don't feel that I am free to give her name since she isn't a well-known person. She doesn't post on the org either, as far as I know, but I wouldn't want to violate her privacy if she does.

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You said it was someone close to Prince and they were expecting it. Expecting what? That he was going to take illegal Fentanyl and overdose? Did this person speak to the investigators?

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I don't think a "fan" would have such close & personal information about Prince. All this is just hearsay and it's not credible.

They were "friends' with Prince. I don't know if she spoke with investigators, as I didn't ask. No, they weren't expecting the overdose. Something else. As I said, I didn't ask details, didn't want to know details, and I doubt they would have given them to me, because I was merely asking if they were okay. And yes, it's hearsay, from this individual to me, so take it for what it is worth. I'm not telling anyone to believe me, just sharing what was told to me.

benni said:

cloveringold85 said:

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You said it was someone close to Prince and they were expecting it. Expecting what? That he was going to take illegal Fentanyl and overdose? Did this person speak to the investigators?

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I don't think a "fan" would have such close & personal information about Prince. All this is just hearsay and it's not credible.

They were "friends' with Prince. I don't know if she spoke with investigators, as I didn't ask. No, they weren't expecting the overdose. Something else. As I said, I didn't ask details, didn't want to know details, and I doubt they would have given them to me, because I was merely asking if they were okay. And yes, it's hearsay, from this individual to me, so take it for what it is worth. I'm not telling anyone to believe me, just sharing what was told to me.

thank you benni, but i was just pointing out how tired some of us are of the old "people close to him" line. of course you shouldn't tell us but for most of these like statements, they should say or keep their mouths shut.

If Prince took fentanyl on the 15th and didn't take any fentanyl until the 21th, then the original batch of fentanyl would have had time to leave his urine and the last batch may not have made it to his urine yet (makes sense since he tested positive for opiods at Shulbarg's office but apparently did not test positive for fentanyl) . Am I getting that wrong? I don't know much about how long it stays in the liver and gastric system so perhaps you are correct that he didn't take any of his Bayer pills on the 16th, 17th, 18, and 19th and 20th. But there was so much in his liver, it makes me think he had the tolerance to consume that much in the first place. I believe he may have taken it more than once during the later half of the 20th and early hours of the 21st for so much to be his liver, blood and his stomach.I assumed that the junk in his stomach hadn't metabolized yet but the stuff in his liver and blood had. Correct me (politely please) if you know more about the science. Anyhow, none of that proves whether it was on accident or on purpose. He may have wanted to live that week but changed his mind and busted out the more dangerous stuff on the 21st.

As for the suicide question, I can't speak definitively that he killed himself but you can't speak definitively either that he did not committ suicide. His religion is also against drug usage, promiscuity etc. Prince thought the way PRince thought. He may have justified it to himself that God would forgive him. ONly he knew what he felt about suicide at the end of his life. the fact that he busted out the more potent stuff (when he had the milder stuff around) the night before his rehab (and after a doctor had already tested him) seems disconcerting to me. He went without the strong stuff for 5 days (why couldn't he make it one more night?) especially if lidocaine and percocet was lying around. Also, disconcerting is that fact that Bayer bottles had one thing and Aleve bottles had another thing. They weren't all just mixed together as much as people are saying.

laytonian said:

purplerabbithole said:

They could not have been that new.there was a lot of fentanyl in his liver. He had a tolerance. I think at very least he knew it was not the standard Percocet

You are confusing what I said and trying to justify your position. Bull. He had no fentanyl in his urine. Only Percocet/hydro. You need to learn how the body metabolizes. Fentanyl stays in the body for about four days. The only traces were in his gastric system and liver. If he was taking it all the time, it would have been in his urine. It would only take a few pills, if they were pure fentanyl, to kill a human. I REPEAT: he took the prescribed Percocet sometime during the week and just likely reached for the handy Bayer bottle. He'd been told in Moline it looked like Percocet. Suicide would be a mortal sin to him. [Edited 5/15/18 12:27pm]

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PeteSilas said:

benni said:

They were "friends' with Prince. I don't know if she spoke with investigators, as I didn't ask. No, they weren't expecting the overdose. Something else. As I said, I didn't ask details, didn't want to know details, and I doubt they would have given them to me, because I was merely asking if they were okay. And yes, it's hearsay, from this individual to me, so take it for what it is worth. I'm not telling anyone to believe me, just sharing what was told to me.

thank you benni, but i was just pointing out how tired some of us are of the old "people close to him" line. of course you shouldn't tell us but for most of these like statements, they should say or keep their mouths shut.

I know, Pete. I get that, "the tired of it". I've seen a few that I wish would just say, but I also try to understand from their perspective. In some instances, things are told in confidence and if they reveal the "source" of who it was that was "close to Prince', and it gets back to that person, that person wouldn't trust them any more to share any stories about Prince with them.

In my situation, I never questioned this person about Prince before, never asked questions about their relationship with Prince, and this person never shared any of the stories with me. I only know about the pictures because I've seen them since his passing and know they came from this person. And I've seen associates "talk" with this person and ask if this person is okay following the death and they've shared inside "jokes" or "comments" with each other. I'm on the fringe of this person's fringe, if that makes sense.

cloveringold85 said:

PennyPurple said:

Kirk had a cracked tooth and had an appointment with his dentist to get it fixed. He had to go to Atlanta with Prince and had to cancel at the last minute. He asked his dentist for a script for pain pills and she gave it to him. When the dentist found out about Moline she called Kirk cuz she was pissed about the pills she gave him. She advised Kirk to get him into rehab.

Heck thinking back about the dentist, it seems like she cared more then P's friends/employees did.

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Yes, she was mad!!

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Then, Kirk tells her he's gonna take Prince to see his doctor, and we know how well that went.

Oh wow! Good for her though. She didn't have to mince any words...finally someone was like "Quit screwing around he needs rehab. What are you guys doing????" I'm sure the dentist wanted to protect herself too though.

She was a doctor. She had the professional knowledge and objectivity. He obviously was concerned enough to take P to the doctor after that conversation. Is it possible that Kirk didn't know that the Bayer bottle didn't just contain more percocet (or something else of similar potency) and that he thought after the hospital stay, PRince's evasiveness and the pharmacists saying it was percocet that P had downed more than he was willing to admit on the 15th...that is, until the dentist said, there is no way that was just percocet and you had better look into it.

Krystalkisses said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Yes, she was mad!!

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Then, Kirk tells her he's gonna take Prince to see his doctor, and we know how well that went.

Oh wow! Good for her though. She didn't have to mince any words...finally someone was like "Quit screwing around he needs rehab. What are you guys doing????" I'm sure the dentist wanted to protect herself too though.

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Strawberrylova123 said:

PeteSilas said:

i figured someone would say that but i meant a real disease, cancer/aids i still think it's possible although in light of some of this stuff, seems to be a diminishing possibility. Thing with pain is, prince had been overcoming so many things for so long that a little pain wouldn't seem to be such a big deal, this is Prince not some regular joe. If football players have kicked the pills, i'm sure prince was just as mentally tough as them if not more, maybe I had too much faith in the man.

Prince...did..not...have...a..terminal...illness, Dr. S said their wasn't anything significant in his blood test besides slight anemia. A disease would've shown up in his blood and urine test.

You honestly believe that every single more serious disease and condition a human being can have will be revealed by doing basic blood work and urine tests? That's not so.

benni said:

PeteSilas said:

well, who was it benni? we're all tired of this "people close to him" shit.

Pete, it wasn't anyone that anyone on here would know. She was "just a fan" that Prince took an interest in and befriended. And no, it wasn't one of the fake Prince's that used to frequent the internet, pretending to be him. She actually used to hang at PP and had pictures of private areas of PP that you wouldn't see if you were just there for one of the concerts. I didn't ask her for details, didn't want to know details. And unfortunately, in this situation, I don't feel that I am free to give her name since she isn't a well-known person. She doesn't post on the org either, as far as I know, but I wouldn't want to violate her privacy if she does.

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They may have known Prince's longing to go but not how or when he was going to do it.

cloveringold85 said:

benni said:

Pete, it wasn't anyone that anyone on here would know. She was "just a fan" that Prince took an interest in and befriended. And no, it wasn't one of the fake Prince's that used to frequent the internet, pretending to be him. She actually used to hang at PP and had pictures of private areas of PP that you wouldn't see if you were just there for one of the concerts. I didn't ask her for details, didn't want to know details. And unfortunately, in this situation, I don't feel that I am free to give her name since she isn't a well-known person. She doesn't post on the org either, as far as I know, but I wouldn't want to violate her privacy if she does.

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You said it was someone close to Prince and they were expecting it. Expecting what? That he was going to take illegal Fentanyl and overdose? Did this person speak to the investigators?

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I don't think a "fan" would have such close & personal information about Prince. All this is just hearsay and it's not credible.

benni said:

cloveringold85 said:

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You said it was someone close to Prince and they were expecting it. Expecting what? That he was going to take illegal Fentanyl and overdose? Did this person speak to the investigators?

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I don't think a "fan" would have such close & personal information about Prince. All this is just hearsay and it's not credible.

They were "friends' with Prince. I don't know if she spoke with investigators, as I didn't ask. No, they weren't expecting the overdose. Something else. As I said, I didn't ask details, didn't want to know details, and I doubt they would have given them to me, because I was merely asking if they were okay. And yes, it's hearsay, from this individual to me, so take it for what it is worth. I'm not telling anyone to believe me, just sharing what was told to me.

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Okay, I understand.

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I just wish these so-called "friends" of Prince would stop making these generalized statements, and yet want to hide their identity--it just feeds to the gossip and misinformation. Ya know what I'm saying?

purplerabbithole said:

She was a doctor. She had the professional knowledge and objectivity. He obviously was concerned enough to take P to the doctor after that conversation.

Krystalkisses said:

Oh wow! Good for her though. She didn't have to mince any words...finally someone was like "Quit screwing around he needs rehab. What are you guys doing????" I'm sure the dentist wanted to protect herself too though.

Yes I can understand it was a delicate minefield for Kirk to navigate.

LilaLiebe said:

benni said:

Pete, it wasn't anyone that anyone on here would know. She was "just a fan" that Prince took an interest in and befriended. And no, it wasn't one of the fake Prince's that used to frequent the internet, pretending to be him. She actually used to hang at PP and had pictures of private areas of PP that you wouldn't see if you were just there for one of the concerts. I didn't ask her for details, didn't want to know details. And unfortunately, in this situation, I don't feel that I am free to give her name since she isn't a well-known person. She doesn't post on the org either, as far as I know, but I wouldn't want to violate her privacy if she does.

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:LOL: No, NO penguins were involved!

purplerabbithole said:

They may have known Prince's longing to go but not how or when he was going to do it.

cloveringold85 said:

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You said it was someone close to Prince and they were expecting it. Expecting what? That he was going to take illegal Fentanyl and overdose? Did this person speak to the investigators?

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I don't think a "fan" would have such close & personal information about Prince. All this is just hearsay and it's not credible.

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And, they were all such caring and good friends, that they all just stood by and "waited" for him to go?

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Then, when Prince dies, no one seems to have a clue that he was abusing pain pills.

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I'm being sarcastic here, but you know what I'm saying.

cloveringold85 said:

benni said:

They were "friends' with Prince. I don't know if she spoke with investigators, as I didn't ask. No, they weren't expecting the overdose. Something else. As I said, I didn't ask details, didn't want to know details, and I doubt they would have given them to me, because I was merely asking if they were okay. And yes, it's hearsay, from this individual to me, so take it for what it is worth. I'm not telling anyone to believe me, just sharing what was told to me.

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Okay, I understand.

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I just wish these so-called "friends" of Prince would stop making these generalized statements, and yet want to hide their identity--it just feeds to the gossip and misinformation. Ya know what I'm saying?

I know. Personally, since more has come out about his passing, from what we knew in the very beginning, I'm not sure what to think. I honestly think Prince was probably being his usual cryptic self, those comments of "Having done everything he came to do" and after he passed, they interpreted as he was warning them.

I honestly take that comment alone as him not feeling compelled to keep putting out music, "I've done all I've come to do", meaning that he's put out the music he wanted to put out and he was starting to sleep without waking up and rushing off to record, it just mean he was finally just being himself without the music as the biggest drive in his life.

benni said:

LilaLiebe said:

:LOL: No, NO penguins were involved!

That's good!

benni said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Okay, I understand.

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I just wish these so-called "friends" of Prince would stop making these generalized statements, and yet want to hide their identity--it just feeds to the gossip and misinformation. Ya know what I'm saying?

I know. Personally, since more has come out about his passing, from what we knew in the very beginning, I'm not sure what to think. I honestly think Prince was probably being his usual cryptic self, those comments of "Having done everything he came to do" and after he passed, they interpreted as he was warning them.

I honestly take that comment alone as him not feeling compelled to keep putting out music, "I've done all I've come to do", meaning that he's put out the music he wanted to put out and he was starting to sleep without waking up and rushing off to record, it just mean he was finally just being himself without the music as the biggest drive in his life.

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I agree. I think Prince's words were taken out of context and Tyka got those words from Judith--at least, that is what it sounds like to me.

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Saying "I've done all that I came to do" can mean a plethora of things -- not necessarily meaning they are checking-out of this life.

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It's like they are just trying to put the pieces together, and concluded "Yea, that's what Prince meant"??

LilaLiebe said:

benni said:

:LOL: No, NO penguins were involved!

That's good!

I saw that penguin come up and I thought, "Oh NO! Please don't let her be thinking I'm talking about penguin girl!" I think her 15 minutes of fame have come and gone!

Maybe you guys are right. But consider one thing. You all state that his saying he had done all he needed to do was his belief that he was giving up the work. But then when we mention suicide, some of you counter that he was making plans so therefore suicide doesn't make sense. He was making plans but many of those plans started involving looking back. Even Lisa Coleman was unsettled by the intimacy and nostalgic nature of the piano and microphone tour. But then again, he played many new songs on that tour. Prince's emotions might have been eratic and conflicting, but giving up was something new to his vocabulary...however, he wasn't exactly relaxing. He worked til nearly the end. My belief is that suicidal notions may come and go..but that doesn't mean they don't exist. Maybe before that last week, he wanted to cram a lot in... And PRN wriitng a memoir--that was rather unusual.

cloveringold85 said:

benni said:

I know. Personally, since more has come out about his passing, from what we knew in the very beginning, I'm not sure what to think. I honestly think Prince was probably being his usual cryptic self, those comments of "Having done everything he came to do" and after he passed, they interpreted as he was warning them.

I honestly take that comment alone as him not feeling compelled to keep putting out music, "I've done all I've come to do", meaning that he's put out the music he wanted to put out and he was starting to sleep without waking up and rushing off to record, it just mean he was finally just being himself without the music as the biggest drive in his life.

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I agree. I think Prince's words were taken out of context and Tyka got those words from Judith--at least, that is what it sounds like to me.

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Saying "I've done all that I came to do" can mean a plethora of things -- not necessarily meaning they are checking-out of this life.

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It's like they are just trying to put the pieces together, and concluded "Yea, that's what Prince meant"??

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purplerabbithole said:

Maybe you guys are right. But consider one thing. You all state that his saying he had done all he needed to do was his belief that he was giving up the work. But then when we mention suicide, some of you counter that he was making plans so therefore suicide doesn't make sense. He was making plans but many of those plans started involving looking back. Even Lisa Coleman was unsettled by the intimacy and nostalgic nature of the piano and microphone tour. But then again, he played many new songs on that tour. Prince's emotions might have been eratic and conflicting, but giving up was something new to his vocabulary...however, he wasn't exactly relaxing. He worked til nearly the end. My belief is that suicidal notions may come and go..but that doesn't mean they don't exist. Maybe before that last week, he wanted to cram a lot in... And PRN wriitng a memoir--that was rather unusual.

cloveringold85 said:

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I agree. I think Prince's words were taken out of context and Tyka got those words from Judith--at least, that is what it sounds like to me.

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Saying "I've done all that I came to do" can mean a plethora of things -- not necessarily meaning they are checking-out of this life.

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It's like they are just trying to put the pieces together, and concluded "Yea, that's what Prince meant"??

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purplerabbithole, the one reason why I don't give any credibility to the idea of suicide is because of who Prince was. Everything else aside, Prince was a deeply spiritual and religious man. Everything he did, he was always pointing to God. God was his inspiration. His music, his gift, came from God. The pain pills, I can even understand, given that associates have described that Prince was in pain, though there were no official documentation related to the pain. I've taken pain pills for chronic pain, and I've seen how easy it would be to get addicted to them. When you are used to hurting all the time, having those moments of no pain, being able to move without pain, it's a ... it's a relief. But no one, no one, will ever convince me that Prince committed suicide, knowing how deeply spiritual and religious he was. Suicide goes against everything that man believed in. Everything.

As far as looking back, it happens when we get older, when we feel we've done everything we've set out to accomplish. We look back at our lives to try to figure out, "was it all worth it? did I miss something in my pursuit to achieve what I've accomplished?" And he may even have been thinking about the ending...."When I finally die, can I face God and say, "I've lived a good life"?"

I know there are those that want to believe Prince was so miserable in his life, all of the pain, the heartache, the fear of not ever performing again, whatever reasons they may put to it, the loss of Denise, whatever it might be, that it would cause Prince to kill himself.

But when you have lived the life Prince did in the beginning, it makes you stronger. It makes you face life head on and on your own terms. You don't run from that life for anything. And Prince was not someone that had ever ran from life.

benni said:

LilaLiebe said:

That's good!

I saw that penguin come up and I thought, "Oh NO! Please don't let her be thinking I'm talking about penguin girl!" I think her 15 minutes of fame have come and gone!

I think she's old news too, thank goodness! (it appears she hasn't given up on her fanfic yet though)

benni said:

I have no idea what happened, for me any scenario could be the truth. However I do not think anyone deep in addiction is "facing their life head on"...drug addiction is the definition of "running from your life". Whatever happened he was not in a good or healthy place

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

benni said:

purplerabbithole, the one reason why I don't give any credibility to the idea of suicide is because of who Prince was. Everything else aside, Prince was a deeply spiritual and religious man. Everything he did, he was always pointing to God. God was his inspiration. His music, his gift, came from God. The pain pills, I can even understand, given that associates have described that Prince was in pain, though there were no official documentation related to the pain. I've taken pain pills for chronic pain, and I've seen how easy it would be to get addicted to them. When you are used to hurting all the time, having those moments of no pain, being able to move without pain, it's a ... it's a relief. But no one, no one, will ever convince me that Prince committed suicide, knowing how deeply spiritual and religious he was. Suicide goes against everything that man believed in. Everything.

As far as looking back, it happens when we get older, when we feel we've done everything we've set out to accomplish. We look back at our lives to try to figure out, "was it all worth it? did I miss something in my pursuit to achieve what I've accomplished?" And he may even have been thinking about the ending...."When I finally die, can I face God and say, "I've lived a good life"?"

I know there are those that want to believe Prince was so miserable in his life, all of the pain, the heartache, the fear of not ever performing again, whatever reasons they may put to it, the loss of Denise, whatever it might be, that it would cause Prince to kill himself.

But when you have lived the life Prince did in the beginning, it makes you stronger. It makes you face life head on and on your own terms. You don't run from that life for anything. And Prince was not someone that had ever ran from life.

I have no idea what happened, for me any scenario could be the truth. However I do not think anyone deep in addiction is "facing their life head on"...drug addiction is the definition of "running from your life". Whatever happened he was not in a good or healthy place

I still go back and forth between addiction and dependence. Dependence fits more, when you consider that Prince continued to work, was able to function completely, put out music, performed, etc. Addicts usually have their lives and their livelihoods disrupted, aren't able to continue to perform at their jobs, and live and breathe for their drug of choice. With dependence, your body has grown accustomed to the drug and needs it to be able to function normally. With addiction, it's a compulsive use of the drug with a disruption to social, work, and family obligations. Dependence can occur, even if you take the medication as prescribed. And withdrawals can occur if you stop the drug if you are dependent upon it.

When I look at Prince, the way he was able to function, the way no one knew of his use, I lean towards dependence. There is no way an addict can hide their usage. And if he was dependent upon it, he would require more of it over time to achieve the same effects (to rid himself of the pain). For the addict, it's the psychological impact of that drug that drives them. For the dependent, it's just the desire to be able to function normally.

cloveringold85 said:

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And, they were all such caring and good friends, that they all just stood by and "waited" for him to go?

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Then, when Prince dies, no one seems to have a clue that he was abusing pain pills.

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I'm being sarcastic here, but you know what I'm saying.

Yeah, that pisses me off too. And let's add to it a bit more....apply for a trademark days if not hours after he died, let's plan some reunion tours and make $$ off Prince while we're at it, and hey why not write a book.

benni said:

No one here knows what was going on, but psychologically speaking he looked horrifically impacted by his drug use, and though he may have been functioning, based on his physical appearance nothing was normal...

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

benni said:

purplerabbithole, the one reason why I don't give any credibility to the idea of suicide is because of who Prince was. Everything else aside, Prince was a deeply spiritual and religious man. Everything he did, he was always pointing to God. God was his inspiration. His music, his gift, came from God. The pain pills, I can even understand, given that associates have described that Prince was in pain, though there were no official documentation related to the pain. I've taken pain pills for chronic pain, and I've seen how easy it would be to get addicted to them. When you are used to hurting all the time, having those moments of no pain, being able to move without pain, it's a ... it's a relief. But no one, no one, will ever convince me that Prince committed suicide, knowing how deeply spiritual and religious he was. Suicide goes against everything that man believed in. Everything.

As far as looking back, it happens when we get older, when we feel we've done everything we've set out to accomplish. We look back at our lives to try to figure out, "was it all worth it? did I miss something in my pursuit to achieve what I've accomplished?" And he may even have been thinking about the ending...."When I finally die, can I face God and say, "I've lived a good life"?"

I know there are those that want to believe Prince was so miserable in his life, all of the pain, the heartache, the fear of not ever performing again, whatever reasons they may put to it, the loss of Denise, whatever it might be, that it would cause Prince to kill himself.

But when you have lived the life Prince did in the beginning, it makes you stronger. It makes you face life head on and on your own terms. You don't run from that life for anything. And Prince was not someone that had ever ran from life.

I have no idea what happened, for me any scenario could be the truth. However I do not think anyone deep in addiction is "facing their life head on"...drug addiction is the definition of "running from your life". Whatever happened he was not in a good or healthy place

co-sign and thanks for your comments...

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LilaLiebe said:[quote]

Strawberrylova123 said:

PeteSilas said:

i figured someone would say that but i meant a real disease, cancer/aids i still think it's possible although in light of some of this stuff, seems to be a diminishing possibility. Thing with pain is, prince had been overcoming so many things for so long that a little pain wouldn't seem to be such a big deal, this is Prince not some regular joe. If football players have kicked the pills, i'm sure prince was just as mentally tough as them if not more, maybe I had too much faith in the man.

Prince...did..not...have...a..terminal...illness, Dr. S said their wasn't anything significant in his blood test besides slight anemia. A disease would've shown up in his blood and urine test.

You honestly believe that every single more serious disease and condition a human being can have will be revealed by doing basic blood work and urine tests? That's not so.

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LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

Yes! Thank You!

I don't know the total context of the trademark. From what I gather she had been using the phrase to get money for charitable projects because the trademark had lapsed--whether she was aware at the time that Mayte was still on the board is unknown.. The thread on here about the trademark never really came to a clear conclusion. From what I hear the start-up money from PRince for IAPW isn't being used or even spent on stuff for Manuela, but the interest is being used towards partnerships with other non-profits. Maybe she is trying to make sure the money doesn't go too quickly to one charity and can be used and spread out over the long run.

As for the exploitation of PRince's death...it happens to all of these uber famous folks. The demands for interviews, the offers to publish etc..come rollingin. . Sometimes, I think his associates are a bunch of self-serving pricks, sometimes I see where they are coming from. Its like they were mourning the loss or trying to figure out how to react and then someone says "Why don't you write a book or do a tribute concert-tour etc. And then the loss is made easier when the money starts rolling in. Then they start self-justifying by saying that Prince would want them to honor his charities or his musicial support through such and such thing. These people are still working musicians. If they spent all their time honoring Prince for free, they would be broke. But if they don't honor him, then they come off callous and ungrateful. As for selling his stuff, his old costumes are fine. His childhood pictures seem like they should be off-limits. If your grandfather dies and you sell his old suits in a garage sale, it doesn't mean you don't love him. If you sell his pictures, that is kind of cold. . Self-serving tell-alls. that's is kind of low (if they are indeed just about self aggrandizement at the expense of Prince's privacy, but then again, maybe that is not how the writer/prince associate sees it or what they tell themselves.

PennyPurple said:

cloveringold85 said:

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And, they were all such caring and good friends, that they all just stood by and "waited" for him to go?

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Then, when Prince dies, no one seems to have a clue that he was abusing pain pills.

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I'm being sarcastic here, but you know what I'm saying.

Yeah, that pisses me off too. And let's add to it a bit more....apply for a trademark days if not hours after he died, let's plan some reunion tours and make $$ off Prince while we're at it, and hey why not write a book.

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benni said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Okay, I understand.

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I just wish these so-called "friends" of Prince would stop making these generalized statements, and yet want to hide their identity--it just feeds to the gossip and misinformation. Ya know what I'm saying?

I know. Personally, since more has come out about his passing, from what we knew in the very beginning, I'm not sure what to think. I honestly think Prince was probably being his usual cryptic self, those comments of "Having done everything he came to do" and after he passed, they interpreted as he was warning them.

I honestly take that comment alone as him not feeling compelled to keep putting out music, "I've done all I've come to do", meaning that he's put out the music he wanted to put out and he was starting to sleep without waking up and rushing off to record, it just mean he was finally just being himself without the music as the biggest drive in his life.

the part about sleeping better ...I wonder if the meds were putting him in a deep sleep ... he seemed to think he would have just woken up by himself sfter taking the tablets on the plane

Good point. The man should have used Ambien instead.

80tomato said:

benni said:

I know. Personally, since more has come out about his passing, from what we knew in the very beginning, I'm not sure what to think. I honestly think Prince was probably being his usual cryptic self, those comments of "Having done everything he came to do" and after he passed, they interpreted as he was warning them.

I honestly take that comment alone as him not feeling compelled to keep putting out music, "I've done all I've come to do", meaning that he's put out the music he wanted to put out and he was starting to sleep without waking up and rushing off to record, it just mean he was finally just being himself without the music as the biggest drive in his life.

the part about sleeping better ...I wonder if the meds were putting him in a deep sleep ... he seemed to think he would have just woken up by himself sfter taking the tablets on the plane