purplefam99 said: fortuneandserendipity said:
On Judith’s website there is a video called back in time at paisley. Where she is talking to Prince thru the intercom and he is inside and clearly Knows it is her from the outside. She even looks up like “ how are you seeing Me”. If you pause the video you can see there is what maybe a camera above her head when she puts her back against the white wall. The camera or whatever it is Is white too so you have to look close. So his cctv doesn’t seem to be imitation According to this video. —-Thank you | |
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Menes said: Why would someone who was procuring/addicted to illicit substances have cameras on to recording anything? How reasonable is that? Do you think prince had cameras in his bathrooms. Think about it for moment. As far as the pills and pamphlet being in the open I Believe it was set up that way because it is a 65 ft.² facility and if he wanted to hide something for fear that the police were coming he could have had it so no one will find anything. You have a person who was known for being neat and private why are things later about in the open. Planes wanted things to play out this way. He was the king of misdirection. | |
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The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!
If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days... | |
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co-sign² The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!
If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days... | |
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Correct this was a staged video. - Also after dozens of posts I still see no connection between what security cameras outside the building may or may not have been recording at various times and the events of April 20, which took place when prince was alone inside the building (and we don’t know where exactly; he could have been in his private residence most of that night). I’m not looking for an explanation of the connection because there isn’t anything about this discussion that’s based on facts other than the statement in the warrant that there’s no surveillance video available. fortune and serendipity said:
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disch said: Correct this was a staged video. - Also after dozens of posts I still see no connection between what security cameras outside the building may or may not have been recording at various times and the events of April 20, which took place when prince was alone inside the building (and we don’t know where exactly; he could have been in his private residence most of that night). I’m not looking for an explanation of the connection because there isn’t anything about this discussion that’s based on facts other than the statement in the warrant that there’s no surveillance video available. fortune and serendipity said:
Well seems to be enough that would make one question either way. The intercom seems to be real enough. Don’t know if he could see. And yes it is contrived and And they do appear to mess up their lines. Cause why would she say prince locked Me out when she is clearly talking to Prince. Weird script. | |
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. "With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) | |
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. Laura, I appreciate a lot of information you bring to the table, but I just can't with that comment above.
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. Welcome back, Menes!! . Hope you had a wonderful vacation!! . Welcome back to the madness!! . To the bolded: Kirk was Manager of PP and he had full-access to the facility, 24-7, and I'm sure he knew how to operate the security system/camera's.
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cloveringold85 said:
. Zena!! There you are!! Missed ya, Gurl!! . 🙋♀️ Clover!!! 🤗🤗 Missed U 2!! | |
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Does anyone know whether or not, according to Minnesota law, details of the investigation will be made public if the prosecutor decides not to press charges against anyone? | |
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I think we are saying the same thing. I don't believe anyone else did anything except for the "king of misdirection". The man checked out and left an assortment of clues for the exact purpose it was intended for: Let 'em all ponder. It was one last act that fits quite nicely into the personage. It was either that or be found as a pile of waste ravaged by pain and pills in the very near future. | |
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Thank you, CG85. Kirk did have access, but in the scheme of all things, he isn't that smart to put all of this together. He did everything for Prince. | |
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thank you very much. There ya go. It was fake. "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) | |
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agree 1000%...and WELCOME BACK...missed you. | |
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I agree, too. Nothing else makes any sense but this scenario. | |
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I respect what all of you have to say, but some of you seem to be missing a very important fact. The Carver County Sheriff ruled-out suicide, and Prince's death is still an ongoing homicide investigation. The authorities would not say "homicide" if they did not suspect foul-play. . There were a lot of strange things going on in the weeks leading up to Prince's untimely death, and I think there is a lot more to the story than an overdose from illegal Fentanyl. . Also, the ME stated there were no other underlying illnesses/diseases. We do not have a full autopsy, but should we suspect that the ME is not telling the truth on the cause of death?
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The ME said any other health problems i.e. cancer, HIV, ebola, heart disease, etc DID NOT CAUSE OR CONTRIBUTE TO THE CAUSE of his death. The CAUSE of his death was opoid toxicity and it was ruled accidental bc he didn't leave a note. Period. This has been explained only a gazillion times here.
Also, the Sheriff DID NOT rule out suicide; it's the ME's job, based on long-training, to determine the CAUSE of death which was TOO MANY DRUGS in his 112 lb. body. DRUGS killed Prince. And maybe he took TOO MANY DRUGS knowingly.
And for those who say, 'but maybe he took too many drugs unknowingly' I say BS: He's OD's by his own hand just a week before, had struggled with drug addiction for years and he looked like it at the end.
Denial is the strongest human emotion...though NOT a good look. | |
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. You are entitled to your opinion. . I know Prince died of opioid toxicity. We all know that. I was just pointing-out the fact that the ME did not list any other contributors to his death or underlying illnesses, because some people here are hell-bent on saying he was sick and a drug-addict. . Yes, the Sheriff has to rule out whether or not it was a suicide, because that is their expertise and that is their job to do so.
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Re: the MEs ruling of "accidental": MEs, like anyone, can get things wrong, but there's no particular reason to think she did in this case; she had access to all the same info we do, PLUS a lot more (and she has trained expertise in interpreting evidence). We don't know that the only reason she ruled it accidental was the lack of a note, as she didn't offer any public comment other than the autopsy summary. And you're right this has been talked about a gazillion times, but I think the reason for that is that not everyone agrees. - I don't think that skepticism about suicide is because of denial. Look, it's more comforting, in a way, to think he ended his life intentionally, on his own terms. It's more unsettling to think it was a dumb accident, not what he wanted and that with a few different choices he could be alive today. - As far as the "homicide" investigation, we know that that doesn't necessarily mean 1st degree (intentional murder); "homicide" could also apply to anyone who provided the illegal drugs that killed him no matter their intent. But the fact that no charged have been filed after 2 years doesn't really bode well for charges ever being filed, at least in Carver County. (It might be out of the country jurisdiction, depending on where Prince acquired his drugs.)
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"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) | |
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Thank you for this deeply thoughtful and compelling comment. | |
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Thank you, Bod. Strange how they "thought it could be "homicide"( only as in : someone gave him the "kill pill'). Did he swallow the first kill pill" in Moline too? If so, why would any sane person who thought he swallowed a kill pill that was planted 7 days prior, not :
C: Eliminate all access and contact with persons that had an opportunity to plant the "kill pill" ? That should include all staff , family members, etc. [Edited 3/11/18 20:33pm] | |
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OMG Menes, Thanks and Blessings for this bit of clarity amidst the dross...just weeping, weeping...for the path not taken, for what might have been, for the lack of a small portion of True Love in a life infused with love, sex, lovesely...and emptiness, the shallow and the fake, loneliness...and then ...nothing, nothing special at all. RIP... | |
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Yes. There was never any real attachment to things , 'cept for the image and the music. Prince was self and self was Prince. We admired the ego and everything that came along with it. That Moline incident shattered everything personified. Pain or no pain, there was no recovering from that. | |
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Sigh the ME report avalible to the public tell us nothing about any other health issues he may have since they did not cause his death. Additional info would be in the ME report and his health records.
The terminal illness story is coming from his own family members. | |
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But why? He had access to legit pills and could have stayed in the hospital and been made to feel comfortable. Prince was not poor street junkie with no options.
I am not sure why the fact that he did this on purpose and set up the whole situation is not believable. Some people think he was out of control on drugs for 20 years and it had no effect on his work output but you cannot believe he killed himself and it may not of had anything to do with a drug problem which if you have the money you can solve and not be in discomfort.
The only other option is that pills got mixed up but again how did this happen?
Also remember the police have said it is an active homicide investigation which we believe is due to the police looking for the dealer. The police have never issued a statement about looking for a dealer. | |
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I agree with Laura's statement. Whether it was Prince or a family member or anyone else, we have to have an open mind on this. The ME's report was simply the cause of death - it did not include the autopsy report. The most terrible aspect of this for me is that Prince apparently was alone - physically and emotionally. He had no one. I didn't have a clue that this was the case. I don't think any of his fans did. | |
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I think that is the way he fixed it. He fixed and helped people not the other way around. | |
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I guess the line of thinking that Prince had enough, so he just downed some street drugs that were mislabeled mind you, and wanted out is the easiest way to put this all to bed, but it's not that simple. . There is a lot of pertinent information that we do not have access to, such as: . What are/were the results of the blood tests that Dr. Schulemberg was bringing to Prince on April 21, 2016? . Paisley Park was not declared a crime scene until 2-weeks after Prince died. Things were touched and moved and evidence was tampered with; Prince's laptop was moved. Do you understand what this means? It means that an accurate investigation did not take place. None of this seems troubling to any of you? . Were the bottles of pills fingerprinted? . Prince was making odd and strange tweets before he died. He made comments on social media about his disagreement with WB and the PR remaster. . We still don't know if he ingested the pills or got the Fentanyl through a patch or injection, right? . This is all just the tip of the iceberg with all the strange circumstances surrounding Prince's death. . If Prince wanted to kill himself, why would he need so many mislabled pills laying around Paisley Park? He only needed to take "ONE" pill, right? . We don't have enough evidence to suggest it was a suicide. Prince was partying -- he wasn't depressed and living in isolation in the weeks and days before he died. .
[Edited 3/12/18 13:50pm] "With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) | |
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