NorthC said:

databank said:

NorthC said:

Back then it was thought by WEA (WB in Europe) that a double LP by an artist that wasn't famous yet, wasn't going to sell. In Holland, for instance, Prince only had a minor hit with Controversy. So that is why they decided to cut it down to one LP.

I wonder did Prince know / approve of the European edit?

The country would not sell it with DMSR and LPWM due to its lyrical content I read years ago. Assuming we should all know Prince was fine with that.

BartVanHemelen said:

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Also note that Prince never could be arsed to support RSD.

I also seen some of his 2016 RSD purchases on his desk at Paisley...

[Edited 3/9/18 8:49am]

paisleypark4 said:

darkroman said:

NouveauDance said:

You can still buy 1999 on vinyl from it's last release right? So this as an RSD exclusive is more interesting imo. Anyone lamenting the loss of tracks on this version, head over to Amazon and buy the full 2LP release.

I totally agree!

I feel some people have loss sight of the re-issue campaign.

The 1999 double album has already been re-issued (obviously we all know that) and this is just the continuation of thus campaign to release the single disc version which has a vastly superior cover artwork.

This single album version is just as important in Prince's release history than any other release.

Like most people I already have everything and I will certainly be buying this to continue to add to my collection.

Sadly the ridiculous price won't work for many people however it is cheaper to buy the original 1982 pressing if anyone is still missing this release.

I still have my original vinyl from 1982, but I will buy this as a collectible, too. It will never be opened.

databank said:

Meanwhile, Bowie fans will get a hell of a treat

[Edited 3/3/18 23:36pm]

This is because Bowie had a loving wife, a good lawyer and a WILL! Say what you want, but if Prince had a will, all this shit with his estate would not be going on and it would be long settled and perhaps his true fans would be getting things like this. Some of you are ignorant as to the importance of a will when there is so much at stake.

paisleypark4 said:

databank said:

NorthC said: I wonder did Prince know / approve of the European edit?

The country would not sell it with DMSR and LPWM due to its lyrical content I read years ago. Assuming we should all know Prince was fine with that.

Which country was lyrics a problem?

IIRC, the countries that got the single LP version of 1999 got the 2LP version as soon as he was more popular. I think they got Diry Mind as well. AFAIK, lyric content was not a reason for the sinlge LP version. Please educate me if I am incorrect.

djThunderfunk said:

paisleypark4 said:

The country would not sell it with DMSR and LPWM due to its lyrical content I read years ago. Assuming we should all know Prince was fine with that.

Which country was lyrics a problem?

IIRC, the countries that got the single LP version of 1999 got the 2LP version as soon as he was more popular. I think they got Diry Mind as well. AFAIK, lyric content was not a reason for the sinlge LP version. Please educate me if I am incorrect.

IDK about Holland but France didn't have issues with profanities or sex in the 80's. https://www.youtube.com/w...L82fWvjMZQ

djThunderfunk said:

paisleypark4 said:

The country would not sell it with DMSR and LPWM due to its lyrical content I read years ago. Assuming we should all know Prince was fine with that.

Which country was lyrics a problem?

IIRC, the countries that got the single LP version of 1999 got the 2LP version as soon as he was more popular. I think they got Diry Mind as well. AFAIK, lyric content was not a reason for the sinlge LP version. Please educate me if I am incorrect.

It was a Per Nilsen read. I think I read it in "Prince A Portrait". I would have to pull the book out again.
I found a South Korea version

https://www.discogs.com/Prince-1999/release/3721096
And UK & Europe


https://www.discogs.com/Prince-1999/release/2381325

[Edited 3/9/18 20:42pm]

paisleypark4 said:

Wikipedia:

Alternate formats

• Originally released on vinyl as a double LP (the first of a number of double sets from Prince), 1999 was cut to a single vinyl edition in some countries; Brazil, for example, opted to issue the release as two separate vinyl albums, 1999 I and 1999 II.^[24]
• The original compact disc version of the album was also cut, omitting "D.M.S.R.". There is a disclaimer on the back cover of the original compact disc pressing that reads "To enable the release of 1999 as a single compact disc, the song DMSR has been omitted from the original LP edition".^[25] Later compact disc pressings (from a 1990 reissue onward) included the track.
• On the cassette release, "Free" was placed after "D.M.S.R." to end the first side, balancing out the lengths of both sides of the cassette.

Seems like this album had many omitting going on smh. I accidentally bought that old 1999 CD as well from a used store and had to buy DMSR on Itunes to make up 4 it.

There was also a cassette with a different cover art, How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore and a few tracks missing, which was actually my first 1999. I had to buy it again some weeks later to have both versions (that was before the Hits/B-Sides so the first one was worth it for HCUDCMA alone).

Event: RECORD STORE DAY 2018
Release Date: 4/21/2018
Format: LP
Label: Warner Bros. Records
Quantity: 5300
Release type: RSD Exclusive Release

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Reissue of the seven track single LP version of Prince’s critically acclaimed, breakthrough album 1999. Featuring the original alternative front cover and ‘eye’ picture labels. This version of 1999, featuring the original alternative front cover and 'eye' picture labels, has been unavailable on LP for 35 years, since its initial pressing in 1983.
Features the massive pop hits "1999", "Little Red Corvette", "Delirious", and "Let’s Pretend We’re Married". Worldwide run of 13,000.

http://recordstoreday.com/SpecialRelease/10128

BartVanHemelen said:

paisleypark4 said:

djThunderfunk said:

Which country was lyrics a problem?

IIRC, the countries that got the single LP version of 1999 got the 2LP version as soon as he was more popular. I think they got Diry Mind as well. AFAIK, lyric content was not a reason for the sinlge LP version. Please educate me if I am incorrect.

It was a Per Nilsen read. I think I read it in "Prince A Portrait". I would have to pull the book out again.
I found a South Korea version

https://www.discogs.com/Prince-1999/release/3721096
And UK & Europe


https://www.discogs.com/Prince-1999/release/2381325

[Edited 3/9/18 20:42pm]

Ok, thanks. It's been a while since I read that one.

Genesia said:

darkroman said:

I totally agree!

I feel some people have loss sight of the re-issue campaign.

The 1999 double album has already been re-issued (obviously we all know that) and this is just the continuation of thus campaign to release the single disc version which has a vastly superior cover artwork.

This single album version is just as important in Prince's release history than any other release.

Like most people I already have everything and I will certainly be buying this to continue to add to my collection.

Sadly the ridiculous price won't work for many people however it is cheaper to buy the original 1982 pressing if anyone is still missing this release.

I still have my original vinyl from 1982, but I will buy this as a collectible, too. It will never be opened.

It will never be opened ???

Really ?

Why ? Like, bying a stereo or a sweater or car, and never use it ?

To keep it more valuable ?

Did you know that album covers remained in plastic get damaged ? All plastic wrappings shrink, check it. You must've seen that already.

I for one will never ever buy something that is still in plastic wrapping. As if it is still in mint condition. Bullshit. I can buy a plastic wrapper machine for let's say € 38 / $ 50, wrap up anything really, and lie to you about it never being used.

YES: I'm buying this 1LP - I own the 1st edition, with the Eye-label.

Still I Need this fresh one, LP:



Great news, thanks Superfurryanimal + U, the Original poster..

First of all this isn't a big masses release.

It's for record-store day.

It's only for stupid aged vinyl collectors like me.

WB just wants to grab a few $$.

Just like most labels do on that day.

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Although some artists are OK with it.

For those of you who know DAVID SYLVIAN, there's a new release of his DEAD BEES ON A CAKE album specialy released for that record store day, with 4 extra tracks, and on white vinyl, with all new album cover art done by the great Anton Corbijn, and Chris Bigg i believe...

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Vannormal said:

First of all this isn't a big masses release.

It's for record-store day.

It's only for stupid aged vinyl collectors like me.

WB just wants to grab a few $$.

Just like most labels do on that day.

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Although some artists are OK with it.

For those of you who know DAVID SYLVIAN, there's a new release of his DEAD BEES ON A CAKE album specialy released for that record store day, with 4 extra tracks, and on white vinyl, with all new album cover art done by the great Anton Corbijn, and Chris Bigg i believe...

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Key words: "4 extra tracks", "white vinyl", "all new album cover with art by..."

The Prince record has nothing new or different or extra for those that have the original release. That's a shame. At least last year, the What Time Is It? release was on green vinyl, that was cool and different. Unfortunately, back to back comparisons to the original LP reveals that the original sounds MUCH better than the RSD release (it's not even close).

I guess my point is, I have to get something I don't already have or an upgrade in sound quality to justify the high prices for the RSD releases. If I didn't aready have the original single LP of 1999 I might be interested, if it had some added value I would for sure be buying... As it is, cool, but, no thanks.

I was very upset by this new release ...Fully Useless IMO ....but 2 days ago ...Some1 i know very reliable with Contact at WB ...said 2 me To be Patient...this 1999 Vinyl Release is just the beginning 4 news things 2 come in the next weeks (WB is concerned) ...That's it....Wait & C ??

billymeade said:

databank said:

I'm really not comfortable discussing P's illness because there is still so much we don't know and a lot of people are talking shit without a clue, so I will only say that AFAIK people aren't supposed to die from hip pain or even painkiller addiction,

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Painkiller addiction is a leading cause of death in the USA right now.

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I'd be interested, however, about your opinion on this: I didn't know WB (who own Parlophone) had offered a replacement for Heroes, which they indeed have I now see, but I knew they had explained themselves and apologized earlier. I find that's quite confusing given the contempt they've offered us regarding the mess that PR Deluxe was, the total lack of apologies, attempt at explaining themselves or let alone any offer for compensation. If nothing else, they should have done something about the Erotic City glitch. Do you think it's because the Parlophone sublabel handles things with more care for fans than the main WB label, or is there a way Bowie's fanbase is capable of making itself heard in more efficiency than us, or what?

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Unknown. It's likely a combination of various factors, e.g. the volume of complaints all over the place, the power of some blogs (SDE,...), perhaps some of Bowie's inner circle receiving complaints directly,... I wouldn't be surprised if "the Bowie business" is a lot more important (both lucrative and prestigious) to WBR than the "Prince business".

paisleypark4 said:

I also seen some of his 2016 RSD purchases on his desk at Paisley...

[Edited 3/9/18 8:49am]

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RSD has been going on for how long? In all of its history, how often did Prince collaborate of releasing product for that day, and thus actually putting money in the pockets of record store owners? Ah yes, ten years without actually contributing anything.

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Or lemme point to the numerous Prince releases that were exclusive deals with chains, i.e. directly attacking local record stores.

Vannormal said:

Genesia said:

I still have my original vinyl from 1982, but I will buy this as a collectible, too. It will never be opened.

It will never be opened ???

Really ?

Why ? Like, bying a stereo or a sweater or car, and never use it ?

To keep it more valuable ?

Did you know that album covers remained in plastic get damaged ? All plastic wrappings shrink, check it. You must've seen that already.

I for one will never ever buy something that is still in plastic wrapping. As if it is still in mint condition. Bullshit. I can buy a plastic wrapper machine for let's say € 38 / $ 50, wrap up anything really, and lie to you about it never being used.

Sweetie, how about you do you and I do me. Mmmkay?

djThunderfunk said:

Vannormal said:

First of all this isn't a big masses release.

It's for record-store day.

It's only for stupid aged vinyl collectors like me.

WB just wants to grab a few $$.

Just like most labels do on that day.

-

Although some artists are OK with it.

For those of you who know DAVID SYLVIAN, there's a new release of his DEAD BEES ON A CAKE album specialy released for that record store day, with 4 extra tracks, and on white vinyl, with all new album cover art done by the great Anton Corbijn, and Chris Bigg i believe...

-

Key words: "4 extra tracks", "white vinyl", "all new album cover with art by..."

The Prince record has nothing new or different or extra for those that have the original release. That's a shame. At least last year, the What Time Is It? release was on green vinyl, that was cool and different. Unfortunately, back to back comparisons to the original LP reveals that the original sounds MUCH better than the RSD release (it's not even close).

I guess my point is, I have to get something I don't already have or an upgrade in sound quality to justify the high prices for the RSD releases. If I didn't aready have the original single LP of 1999 I might be interested, if it had some added value I would for sure be buying... As it is, cool, but, no thanks.

I don't have the original pressing, how does it stack up? To me the reissue sounds like they used the CD master, which is horrible (in fact all of the protege CDs sound awful).

PurpleCreme said:

djThunderfunk said:

Key words: "4 extra tracks", "white vinyl", "all new album cover with art by..."

The Prince record has nothing new or different or extra for those that have the original release. That's a shame. At least last year, the What Time Is It? release was on green vinyl, that was cool and different. Unfortunately, back to back comparisons to the original LP reveals that the original sounds MUCH better than the RSD release (it's not even close).

I guess my point is, I have to get something I don't already have or an upgrade in sound quality to justify the high prices for the RSD releases. If I didn't aready have the original single LP of 1999 I might be interested, if it had some added value I would for sure be buying... As it is, cool, but, no thanks.

I don't have the original pressing, how does it stack up? To me the reissue sounds like they used the CD master, which is horrible (in fact all of the protege CDs sound awful).

I assume you're asking about What Time Is It? (RSD LP)?

It did indeed sound like the new CD Remaster (for the JAP re-releases) was used for the RSD Green Vinyl. Compared to the original pressing (which sounds fantastic) the RSD sounds awful, not picture disc awful, just loudness war awful. The green vinyl is still really cool, as a collectable, but, anyone wanting that good vinyl sound from The Time's second album really needs to seek out the original pressing.

I don't know why they use "remasters" for vintage vinyl re-releases. The mastering techniques used for the original were made for the vinyl format and are perfect. The purpose of remastering is to maximize the sound for digital formats, porting that over to vinyl is as dumb as porting over vinyl masters for CD (like they did in the 80s).

Anywho, it's why I have no interest in the Purple Rain Remaster vinyl and haven't yet picked up on 4Ever vinyl. I'll still buy stuff I don't have on the format (come on D&P and Black Album!!), but here's hoping they use the original masters or I'll still be needing the original pressings. Luckily I already have original pressings of the rest of his albums (the ones that got a vinyl release of course).

I don't know what their problem is. The 180gm releases from a few years ago sound great. I haven't heard any of the rest (non-180gm) of the re-releases but afaik people are happy with them.

[Edited 3/12/18 9:04am]

Strive said:

is it available for pre order yet? i did a search on amazon and only found a old original listing

dance4me3121 said:

is it available for pre order yet? i did a search on amazon and only found a old original listing

Record Store Day exclusives are usually available only in record stores on Record Store Day. After the day is over is when stores will allow internet orders for unsold stock.