laurarichardson said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Perhaps she wants consistent moderation. That's my guess.

——How about not reading a topic that is disturbing.

She didn't say it was "disturbing." She said that it is not in the proper forum.

FlyOnTheWall said:

laurarichardson said:

FlyOnTheWall said: ——How about not reading a topic that is disturbing.

She didn't say it was "disturbing." She said that it is not in the proper forum.

Well she is wrong. We are discussing this women and whatever relationship she had with Prince.

bibrose said:

Would be nice, but some people will always believe Prince was screwing every woman he ever came in contact with. They probably think he was hitting on Liv and Shelby too.

rogifan said:

bibrose said:

Her interview in this video does not indicate that she had a romantic relationship with Prince. People should stop embellishing reported stories with their own version of reported events. Most people on this platform did not know Prince personally. Let us be factual and not add unnecessary embellishments to the narrative of his private life.

https://www.youtube.com/w...gWNywaCSEc

Would be nice, but some people will always believe Prince was screwing every woman he ever came in contact with. They probably think he was hitting on Liv and Shelby too.

I don't think he was necessarily sleeping with Snoh but from the looks of it,he was interested in her and seemed to be romancing her for a little while. She said in the video that she had only been to PP twice and in the other interview that most of their meetings were in LA and Europe.Prince didn't seem to be in LA that much in 2015 and with the exception of a few shows,appeared to be spending most of his time in Minnesota.He was in LA for a few days in September for his appearance at the AMA's.He also did some promotional interviews for Phase 1 and caught an Andy Allo show while there so that may be when some of their meetings she talked about took place.It doesn't sound like they saw each other that much but she said they talked every other day for three years.

pinkcashmere23 said:

rogifan said:

bibrose said: Would be nice, but some people will always believe Prince was screwing every woman he ever came in contact with. They probably think he was hitting on Liv and Shelby too.

I don't think he was necessarily sleeping with Snoh but from the looks of it,he was interested in her and seemed to be romancing her for a little while. She said in the video that she had only been to PP twice and in the other interview that most of their meetings were in LA and Europe.Prince didn't seem to be in LA that much in 2015 and with the exception of a few shows,appeared to be spending most of his time in Minnesota.He was in LA for a few days in September for his appearance at the AMA's.He also did some promotional interviews for Phase 1 and caught an Andy Allo show while there so that may be when some of their meetings she talked about took place.It doesn't sound like they saw each other that much but she said they talked every other day for three years.

It is called being a player. It does not mean he was successful all the time but I belived he never stop playing the field.

laurarichardson said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

I don't think he was necessarily sleeping with Snoh but from the looks of it,he was interested in her and seemed to be romancing her for a little while. She said in the video that she had only been to PP twice and in the other interview that most of their meetings were in LA and Europe.Prince didn't seem to be in LA that much in 2015 and with the exception of a few shows,appeared to be spending most of his time in Minnesota.He was in LA for a few days in September for his appearance at the AMA's.He also did some promotional interviews for Phase 1 and caught an Andy Allo show while there so that may be when some of their meetings she talked about took place.It doesn't sound like they saw each other that much but she said they talked every other day for three years.

It is called being a player. It does not mean he was successful all the time but I belived he never stop playing the field.

Possibly.Kat Graham said that she was staying at PP for a while in 2015 so she was around too,along with Judith.I don't think Kat suggested that they had a romantic relationship though.

I'm more amazed that he had the time (and energy) for all these phone calls and/or private-jetting wth these various ladies (Judith, Tamron, Snoh, maybe Lala -- I'm sure there were quite a few others in his last year or so. There were plenty the few years prior too.)

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I had to laugh too when Snoh in the interview said that Prince complemented her "analog voice," because Judith Hill said he made the exact same comment about hers. Some things about Prince never changed

pinkcashmere23 said:

laurarichardson said:

It is called being a player. It does not mean he was successful all the time but I belived he never stop playing the field.

Possibly.Kat Graham said that she was staying at PP for a while in 2015 so she was around too,along with Judith.I don't think Kat suggested that they had a romantic relationship though.

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rogifan said:

whats wrong with hitting on Liv and Shelby???...i know i would...especially Shelby

disch said:

I'm more amazed that he had the time (and energy) for all these phone calls and/or private-jetting wth these various ladies (Judith, Tamron, Snoh, maybe Lala -- I'm sure there were quite a few others in his last year or so. There were plenty the few years prior too.)

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I had to laugh too when Snoh in the interview said that Prince complemented her "analog voice," because Judith Hill said he made the exact same comment about hers. Some things about Prince never changed

pinkcashmere23 said:

Possibly.Kat Graham said that she was staying at PP for a while in 2015 so she was around too,along with Judith.I don't think Kat suggested that they had a romantic relationship though.

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I thought about what he said about Judith's voice too when Snoh said that.Also what she said about him wanting her to leave her label at the time and letting him produce her album,which is what happened with Judith as well.

RJOrion said:

rogifan said:

Would be nice, but some people will always believe Prince was screwing every woman he ever came in contact with. They probably think he was hitting on Liv and Shelby too.

whats wrong with hitting on Liv and Shelby???...i know i would...especially Shelby

Well Liv and Shelby were married at the time.I did notice a tweet from Prince where he called Liv adorable so he seemed to find her attractive.He said they were his sisters in an interview once.I think they're both beautiful.

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pinkcashmere23 said:

laurarichardson said:

It is called being a player. It does not mean he was successful all the time but I belived he never stop playing the field.

Possibly.Kat Graham said that she was staying at PP for a while in 2015 so she was around too,along with Judith.I don't think Kat suggested that they had a romantic relationship though.

Kandance Springs said he hit on her after taking her out on a few dates. You do not have business meetings in jazz clubs.

This would have been in January of 2016 but you know he was deathly ill and strung out.

laurarichardson said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Possibly.Kat Graham said that she was staying at PP for a while in 2015 so she was around too,along with Judith.I don't think Kat suggested that they had a romantic relationship though.

Kandance Springs said he hit on her after taking her out on a few dates. You do not have business meetings in jazz clubs.

This would have been in January of 2016 but you know he was deathly ill and strung out.

Yeah I remember her saying that.She also said that she picked him up at the airport and he asked her if she had "their album"referring to her new CD.I believe she said she wasn't interested in him like that though and that they just went on a few movie dates as friends.

disch said:

I'm more amazed that he had the time (and energy) for all these phone calls and/or private-jetting wth these various ladies (Judith, Tamron, Snoh, maybe Lala -- I'm sure there were quite a few others in his last year or so. There were plenty the few years prior too.)

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I had to laugh too when Snoh in the interview said that Prince complemented her "analog voice," because Judith Hill said he made the exact same comment about hers. Some things about Prince never changed

pinkcashmere23 said:

Possibly.Kat Graham said that she was staying at PP for a while in 2015 so she was around too,along with Judith.I don't think Kat suggested that they had a romantic relationship though.

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I don't know how he managed all of his women! God, it sounds exhausting!!

laurarichardson said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Possibly.Kat Graham said that she was staying at PP for a while in 2015 so she was around too,along with Judith.I don't think Kat suggested that they had a romantic relationship though.

Kandance Springs said he hit on her after taking her out on a few dates. You do not have business meetings in jazz clubs.

This would have been in January of 2016 but you know he was deathly ill and strung out.

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Yes, Laura -- and you are the person who keeps saying Prince was terminally-ill.

cloveringold85 said:

laurarichardson said:

Kandance Springs said he hit on her after taking her out on a few dates. You do not have business meetings in jazz clubs.

This would have been in January of 2016 but you know he was deathly ill and strung out.

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Yes, Laura -- and you are the person who keeps saying Prince was terminally-ill.

No I mean people are saying he was deathly ill from drugs yet he seemed to manage to drive to the airport pick her up and take her out on dates.

Once again the terminal ill story comes from his family members and I am not the only one on this board that knows about it.

Yes, the amount of energy the supposed strung out drug addict is astounding.

disch said:

I'm more amazed that he had the time (and energy) for all these phone calls and/or private-jetting wth these various ladies (Judith, Tamron, Snoh, maybe Lala -- I'm sure there were quite a few others in his last year or so. There were plenty the few years prior too.)

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I had to laugh too when Snoh in the interview said that Prince complemented her "analog voice," because Judith Hill said he made the exact same comment about hers. Some things about Prince never changed

pinkcashmere23 said:

Possibly.Kat Graham said that she was staying at PP for a while in 2015 so she was around too,along with Judith.I don't think Kat suggested that they had a romantic relationship though.

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rogifan said:

bibrose said:

Her interview in this video does not indicate that she had a romantic relationship with Prince. People should stop embellishing reported stories with their own version of reported events. Most people on this platform did not know Prince personally. Let us be factual and not add unnecessary embellishments to the narrative of his private life.

https://www.youtube.com/w...gWNywaCSEc

Would be nice, but some people will always believe Prince was screwing every woman he ever came in contact with. They probably think he was hitting on Liv and Shelby too.

didnt rosie make a comment about prince not helping her with something becasue she was not sleeping with him??

luvsexy4all said:

rogifan said:

bibrose said: Would be nice, but some people will always believe Prince was screwing every woman he ever came in contact with. They probably think he was hitting on Liv and Shelby too.

didnt rosie make a comment about prince not helping her with something becasue she was not sleeping with him??

She was pissed because he used his record lable as his dating service. Everyone knows he did this.

No one but you uses words like "strung out drug addict" to describe prince. And once again, we don't know how long (or short) a time he struggled with addiction. And many, many people have posted links to stories (and their own personal stories) about how people can be addicted and still function at a high level (i.e., the recently resigned pres of ESPN), but you've always refused to read any of that because you don't want to learn about "junkies," so you know, that's that.

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Anyway, that's not the topic of this thread. There are plenty of other threads for you to pick the same fights over and over with the same crew of fools (like me) who indulge you sometimes.

laurarichardson said:

Yes, the amount of energy the supposed strung out drug addict is astounding.

disch said:

I'm more amazed that he had the time (and energy) for all these phone calls and/or private-jetting wth these various ladies (Judith, Tamron, Snoh, maybe Lala -- I'm sure there were quite a few others in his last year or so. There were plenty the few years prior too.)

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I had to laugh too when Snoh in the interview said that Prince complemented her "analog voice," because Judith Hill said he made the exact same comment about hers. Some things about Prince never changed

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laurarichardson said:

luvsexy4all said:

didnt rosie make a comment about prince not helping her with something becasue she was not sleeping with him??

She was pissed because he used his record lable as his dating service. Everyone knows he did this.

I don't think he did that so much in later years with the exception of maybe Bria's album.Her album seemed more like a gift for a girlfriend or a perk of dating him.His collaborations with Tamar,Andy and Judith seemed more natural and like the result of spending time writing and creating music together.

Many websites, social media sites and tabloids still think of him as a junkie. This is the image he is going to have in some people's minds until someone speaks up. I do not believe he struggled with these drugs for a long period of time. I am sorry if you are taking a drug and managing just fine you are not abusing or addicted. You are dependent upon these meds and millions are and that are not abusing them, addicted or strung out.

Something made things go sideways and he tried to withdraw from them. If he had chronic pain he was still going to have pain without these drugs. So we have a giant hole concerning his health picture.

Junkies- people using drugs for recreational purposes only = no medical reason whatsoever .

Dependent on meds= People taking drugs because they have to for medical reasons.

Is this clear?

disch said:

No one but you uses words like "strung out drug addict" to describe prince. And once again, we don't know how long (or short) a time he struggled with addiction. And many, many people have posted links to stories (and their own personal stories) about how people can be addicted and still function at a high level (i.e., the recently resigned pres of ESPN), but you've always refused to read any of that because you don't want to learn about "junkies," so you know, that's that.

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Anyway, that's not the topic of this thread. There are plenty of other threads for you to pick the same fights over and over with the same crew of fools (like me) who indulge you sometimes.

laurarichardson said:

Yes, the amount of energy the supposed strung out drug addict is astounding.

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What's clear is that you haven't really spent any time in the last 2 years learning about addiction, as you've been posting the same tired posts probably hundreds of times at this point.

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What's clear is that for some reason you care what "social media sites" and "tabloids" say -- you know, the same sites that say Obama was born in Kenya, or that Hillary was a pedophile, or whatever other sillness. And you seem to think that your thousands and thousands of posts on Prince.org are a brave and powerful stand against this misinformation.

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What's clear is that you don't understand actual terminolgy, despite many attempts by people to explain them. "Junkie" is not a medical term. "Addiction" is a physiological response that can develop over time no matter the reason a person first took a drug (whether because of physical pain or another reason).

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"Medical reasons" for taking drugs are complex, as experts often say that many people struggling with addiction have a number of related underlying issues -- including physical pain, mental/emotional health issues, past trauma, etc. These issues often feed into each other.

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"Recreational" doesn't apply to someone with addiction, because they need to take the drug to avoid incapacitating withdrawal symptoms, not just because it's "fun." And many people who don't have physical pain or a prescription (what you call "recreational" users) take drugs due to mental/emotional health issues (one example: veterans with PTSD)

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But this has been disussed ad nauseum here, for literally years, and you proudly reject it all. Thankfully, the opioid crisis has led many people to start thinking differently and more compassionately about addiction, and outdated, simplictic, and judgmental ideas like yours are being pushed to the side.

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That's all I'm posting on this. This a thread about Snoh Aalegra's relationship with Prince; you can start your own thread to talk about junkies.

laurarichardson said:

Many websites, social media sites and tabloids still think of him as a junkie. This is the image he is going to have in some people's minds until someone speaks up. I do not believe he struggled with these drugs for a long period of time. I am sorry if you are taking a drug and managing just fine you are not abusing or addicted. You are dependent upon these meds and millions are and that are not abusing them, addicted or strung out.

Something made things go sideways and he tried to withdraw from them. If he had chronic pain he was still going to have pain without these drugs. So we have a giant hole concerning his health picture.

Junkies- people using drugs for recreational purposes only = no medical reason whatsoever .

Dependent on meds= People taking drugs because they have to for medical reasons.

Is this clear?

disch said:

No one but you uses words like "strung out drug addict" to describe prince. And once again, we don't know how long (or short) a time he struggled with addiction. And many, many people have posted links to stories (and their own personal stories) about how people can be addicted and still function at a high level (i.e., the recently resigned pres of ESPN), but you've always refused to read any of that because you don't want to learn about "junkies," so you know, that's that.

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Anyway, that's not the topic of this thread. There are plenty of other threads for you to pick the same fights over and over with the same crew of fools (like me) who indulge you sometimes.

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laurarichardson said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

She didn't say it was "disturbing." She said that it is not in the proper forum.

Well she is wrong. We are discussing this women and whatever relationship she had with Prince.

Where were you when they shut down or moved virtually ALL the threads on Prince and Andy Allo, who was a known Prince protege and collaborator? And, when all the usual suspects were derailing the thread(s) with constant calls to lock or move it/them?? That's probably what bibrose is remembering...and why she seems to be asking for consistent moderation.

And, BTW, I think she is correct: Based on past moderation, this thread is not in the proper forum.

I have my opinion and I am not going to discuss it with you. I think you project to much and you and a few others want to make Prince’s life about how he died and not how he lived.
You are not in the least bit interested in any health he may have had.

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FlyOnTheWall said:

I was around and thought that was silly. We have people on this board who want Prince to have a born again virgin because of their own hang ups.

laurarichardson said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Where were you when they shut down or moved virtually ALL the threads on Prince and Andy Allo, who was a known Prince protege and collaborator? And, when all the usual suspects were derailing the thread(s) with constant calls to lock or move it/them?? That's probably what bibrose is remembering...and why she seems to be asking for consistent moderation.

And, BTW, I think she is correct: Based on past moderation, this thread is not in the proper forum.

I was around and thought that was silly. We have people on this board who want Prince to have a born again virgin because of their own hang ups.

That's good to know. Perhaps you stated as much on those threads and I missed it.

laurarichardson said:

Well if you believe it then it’s obviously true.

rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:

It is called being a player. It does not mean he was successful all the time but I belived he never stop playing the field.

Well if you believe it then it’s obviously true.

The evidence is around. You just want to wear blinders.

TrcikyChristopher said:

Indeed, she is very talented.

pinkcashmere23 said:

You are very welcome.