That last paragraph of the judge's letter is interesting.

laytonian said:

morningsong said:

If this judge retires right after this case wraps up we'll understand why.

He'll run out screaming, swigging from an open bottle of bourbon, screaming "I'M FREE! Free to change my mind, Free to go most anywhere, anytime ..." [Edited 3/29/18 9:08am]

I apologize to U for the misunderstanding...

ChocolateBox3121 said:

laytonian said:

morningsong said:

If this judge retires right after this case wraps up we'll understand why.

He'll run out screaming, swigging from an open bottle of bourbon, screaming "I'M FREE! Free to change my mind, Free to go most anywhere, anytime ..." [Edited 3/29/18 9:08am]

I wonder if the squabbling siblings have ever discussed who or what is going to pay for the maintenance of the thousands of items left behind? From guitars to shoes to lyric pages ... do they really expect the estate to be able to pay the bills 20, 30, even 40 years from now, when the majority of Prince fans will have passed away?

1Sasha said:

Love wrote you wrote! However regarding: "He worked with, befriended, and/or loved dozens of women, and not one of these women has ever accused him of harassment". I think Sinead O'Connor accused him.

1Sasha said:

I wonder if the squabbling siblings have ever discussed who or what is going to pay for the maintenance of the thousands of items left behind? From guitars to shoes to lyric pages ... do they really expect the estate to be able to pay the bills 20, 30, even 40 years from now, when the majority of Prince fans will have passed away?

Baffling fools better get it together....

laytonian said:

rogifan said:

Seriously?

The list of names he fucked, at the very end, was a nice touch. I'll have to remember that next time I write to a judge.

What is this?

206Michelle said:

1Sasha said:

I wonder if the squabbling siblings have ever discussed who or what is going to pay for the maintenance of the thousands of items left behind? From guitars to shoes to lyric pages ... do they really expect the estate to be able to pay the bills 20, 30, even 40 years from now, when the majority of Prince fans will have passed away?

It’s a great question. I’m hoping that there is a certain amount of money set aside for the purpose of maintaining Paisley Park and its contents, as well as the vault’s contents at Iron Mountain. . Given the nature of Prince’s legacy as one of the greatest American musicians, and arguably the greatest musician/entertainer from Minnesota (with Bob Dylan being his only possible competition), I certainly hope that Paisley Park becomes an essential part of the Twin Cities essential sites to visit, in the way that Graceland has become an essential part of visiting Memphis, TN. . With all due respect to Michael Jackson, Elvis, Madonna, and other American artists who have sold more records than Prince, Prince really stands alone in his versatility and body of work. His music is so varied that it defies categorization into any one conventional genre. He played 20+ instruments. He is one of the greatest guitarists of all time. He is in the Rock n’ Roll Hall of Fame. His Super Bowl performance is legendary due to its excellence and the weather in which it occurred (and it was totally live, with no backing track or lip-syncing). He and the Revolution were the masterminds behind their own best-selling album (PR) whereas MJ had writers and producers doing some of the heavy lifting (eg, Quincy Jones and Rod Temperton for Thriller). Prince pioneered using the internet as a distribution platform. His association with the color purple is so strong that monuments around the world glowed in purple following his death. Even while dealing with chronic pain and having dependence on opioid painkillers, his P&M shows still received rave reviews. I could continue with listing his accomplishments, but I don’t think it’s necessary. He accomplished all that he did without ever residing full-time in either NYC or LA. The only American artists that can compare to him (that I can recall) are Bruce Springsteen and Stevie Wonder and James Brown. . Finally, he made all of his stellar contributions without any major scandals or criminal accusations. He worked with, befriended, and/or loved dozens of women, and not one of these women has ever accused him of harassment. Instead, the women that were his colleagues, friends, or lovers speak glowingly about him. He was a special man whose talents, contributions, and character are largely without comparison. Hopefully, his importance will enable PP and his overall legacy to continue for perpetuity. [Edited 3/30/18 10:15am]

Beautifully said, 206Michelle.

Astasheiks said:

206Michelle said:

It’s a great question. I’m hoping that there is a certain amount of money set aside for the purpose of maintaining Paisley Park and its contents,

Graceland Holdings is running PP.

But how much longer? Who knows?

There is no money to be "set aside"

Astasheiks said:

Love wrote you wrote! However regarding: "He worked with, befriended, and/or loved dozens of women, and not one of these women has ever accused him of harassment". I think Sinead O'Connor accused him.

Eh, she's probably the only one. But it wasn't any sexual harrassment. She told him to "f*** off" and they got in a fight, supposedly. Look, I'm typically one to believe a woman who says that she's been the victim of domestic violence or harrassment, but Sinead's story it totally outlandish.

(Source: https://www.esquire.com/e...ce-punch/)

And then she made the bogus claim that Arsenio Hall supplied drugs to Prince, but retracted her claim when Arsenio threatened to sue her. (Source: http://time.com/4680058/s...l-prince/)

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But besides Sinead O'Connor, I'm not aware of any women accusing Prince of any sexual harrassment or physical abuse. And no one has made any such claims versus his estate.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

206Michelle said:

It’s a great question. I’m hoping that there is a certain amount of money set aside for the purpose of maintaining Paisley Park and its contents,

Graceland Holdings is running PP.

But how much longer? Who knows?

There is no money to be "set aside"

Yeah, I know the 6 siblings are the heirs, but I'm just wondering if there will also be a "peice of the pie" for ongoing Paisley Park expenses.

Somewhere else they wrote something about the Estate.

How much truth was in there?

Will this be good for Vault releases?

udo said:

Somewhere else they wrote something about the Estate.

How much truth was in there?

Will this be good for Vault releases?

Meh to that article. Fact of the matter is that some of the waste that is happening is due to the elders not being cooperative because their "advisor" wants access to confidential information that he is not entitled to have because the court has said no way (remember the Universal mess and the Jobu mess-yeah, why should that advisor have access?). So they continually stamp their feet, don't attend scheduled meetings, and find different ways of throwing a wrench in the works in an effort to get their way. One has to wonder how "indebted" they are to their "advisor" who no doubt would love to get a percentage of the estate. Not an accusation but more than reasonable speculation about what is going on there. That admonition from the judge about the estate "this Estate is not an unlimited resource! All parties must act with prudence and with restraint.” was fully intended for the elders too because their actions and lack of actions is also being considered as wasteful by the court.

Mumio said:

Meh to that article. Fact of the matter is that some of the waste that is happening is due to the elders not being cooperative because their "advisor" wants access to confidential information that he is not entitled to have because the court has said no way (remember the Universal mess and the Jobu mess-yeah, why should that advisor have access?). So they continually stamp their feet, don't attend scheduled meetings, and find different ways of throwing a wrench in the works in an effort to get their way. One has to wonder how "indebted" they are to their "advisor" who no doubt would love to get a percentage of the estate. Not an accusation but more than reasonable speculation about what is going on there. That admonition from the judge about the estate "this Estate is not an unlimited resource! All parties must act with prudence and with restraint.” was fully intended for the elders too because their actions and lack of actions is also being considered as wasteful by the court.

206Michelle said:

morningsong said:

206Michelle said:

Yeah, I know the 6 siblings are the heirs, but I'm just wondering if there will also be a "peice of the pie" for ongoing Paisley Park expenses.

From what I understand, making PP a museum with it's own merchandise puts it in the position to finance itself. Maybe the celebrations help, people reserving parties like Justin did also generate income to keep PP thriving.

YES

I had made a rough projection a while back

based on abslute minimum attendance,of just the day tours

and over 1 year just these alone can generate in excess of 6 million

Thats without Paisley after dark

or special functions, or hiring out the facilities...

I wish I could find it..its in part 7,o r8 or 9 or 10 of this conversation..

morningsong said:

206Michelle said:

Yeah, I know the 6 siblings are the heirs, but I'm just wondering if there will also be a "peice of the pie" for ongoing Paisley Park expenses.

From what I understand, making PP a museum with it's own merchandise puts it in the position to finance itself. Maybe the celebrations help, people reserving parties like Justin did also generate income to keep PP thriving.

I think Bruno Mars would be a great artist to perform at PP. He would have been a great guest for this 2 year anniversary celebration. But he's on tour now.

ChocolateBox3121 said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

rogifan said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

I think Bruno Mars would be a great artist to perform at PP. He would have been a great guest for this 2 year anniversary celebration. But he's on tour now.

The guy that performed bad Prince karaoke at the Grammys? I guess if they’re desperate for money...

I don't care. It pays to keep PP alive.

Lovejunky said:

morningsong said:

206Michelle said: From what I understand, making PP a museum with it's own merchandise puts it in the position to finance itself. Maybe the celebrations help, people reserving parties like Justin did also generate income to keep PP thriving.

YES

I had made a rough projection a while back

based on abslute minimum attendance,of just the day tours

and over 1 year just these alone can generate in excess of 6 million

Thats without Paisley after dark

or special functions, or hiring out the facilities...

I wish I could find it..its in part 7,o r8 or 9 or 10 of this conversation..

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I just think this celebration they have planned on the Anniversary of his death is kinda strange.

rogifan said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

I think Bruno Mars would be a great artist to perform at PP. He would have been a great guest for this 2 year anniversary celebration. But he's on tour now.

The guy that performed bad Prince karaoke at the Grammys? I guess if they’re desperate for money...

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cloveringold85 said:

rogifan said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I just think this celebration they have planned on the Anniversary of his death is kinda strange.

I don’t know why they chose April either. The weather here is much nicer in June.

Graceland's management of PP. I'm not involved in the decisions at all, but I have studied Graceland carefully since they took over to get a sense of what they might do. They are following the Elvis formula- The very popular annual 'Elvis week' celebrates his death anniversary not his birthday. Just like the 'Prince: Live on Screen' for april 21 in Minneapolis, is a direct copy of their success with 'Elvis Live on screen' etc. etc. They were hired to do what they do and seem to be using the Elvis template wherever it can apply here.

so does this latest thang posssibly mean things could start happening sooner than expected?

rogifan said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I just think this celebration they have planned on the Anniversary of his death is kinda strange.

I don’t know why they chose April either. The weather here is much nicer in June.

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Yes, but this event is actually going to take place from April 19th through the 21st.

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CELEBRATION 2018, will honor the unique life and legacy of the prodigiously talented cultural icon Prince Rogers Nelson. Taking place between April 19-22 at Prince’s historic home and recording sanctuary outside Minneapolis

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https://officialpaisleypa...ation-2018

cloveringold85 said:

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I just think this celebration they have planned on the Anniversary of his death is kinda strange.

Not when you consider that Prince himself said, 'I'll celebrate the day I die' (when asked by Scary Spice / Mel B, 'you don't celebrate birthdays do you?').