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Reply #150 posted 02/28/18 5:20pm

disch

well, I don't actually know what you're referring to, but that's OK. As I said before, I'm pretty sure Laura can handle herself and I doubt she's as perturbed by me as you apparantly are. I kinda get the impression she enjoys arguing and I think she's rather appreciates having people who spar with her rather than, say, ignore her.

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Anyway, that's all I have to say about this silliness. This thread is supposed to be where the few people who are interested in hashing over the estate issues can do so.

Mumio said:

disch said:

Mumio, if anything about this forum is enraging you the point that you need to erupt in cursing, maybe step away from the computer for a bit? just a thought.

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As for my "needling" Laura and "trolling": All I can say is Laura is a big girl, has been here for many many many years, and I'm certain (as evidenced by her rate of posting, which far exceeds mine) that anything I post is not disuading her in any way. (As for the particular post of mine that you quoted below, I had originally responded to someone else entirely with a comment, Laura jumpted in with a reponse to me, I responded with the comment below, then Laura responded with a somewhat snarky comment back at me... and it ended with that. If you're going to accuse me of "trolling," at least read the whole conversation! Geesh)

Enraged? lol Nope. I'm grown, cursing is allowed lol My comment is more directed toward repeated behavior on your part. Not just this one time. You know what I am talking about nod A one or two time behavior doesn't require commenting on.


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Reply #151 posted 02/28/18 8:01pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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nelcp777 said:

There is a DNA request (Writ of Mamandus) for paternity testing of Ogeda Patrick filed in the court documents February 23rd.

I found an Ogeda LeJuan Patrick serving 25 years in Georgia.

This is the same name on the Probate Court Notices.

lol

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Reply #152 posted 02/28/18 8:13pm

206Michelle

nelcp777 said:

There is a DNA request (Writ of Mamandus) for paternity testing of Ogeda Patrick filed in the court documents February 23rd.


Oh, good grief! (Rolling my eyes) This paternity claim will turn out to be a whole lot of nothing. Seriously, if Prince had living children, I’m pretty sure he would have made arrangements for them to live very nicely. He didn’t have any of these arrangements in place because he didn’t have any living children. End of story.
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Reply #153 posted 02/28/18 8:15pm

206Michelle

cloveringold85 said:



206Michelle said:


XxAxX said:
I'd rather turn it into a Prince Rogers Nelson wildlife preserve. Let the birds and ducks and other current residents remain there

Plant trees in the shape of prince.

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Or, maybe a nice, big Symbol maze! lol



yeahthat Great suggestion!
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Reply #154 posted 02/28/18 8:25pm

206Michelle

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



nelcp777 said:


There is a DNA request (Writ of Mamandus) for paternity testing of Ogeda Patrick filed in the court documents February 23rd.



I found an Ogeda LeJuan Patrick serving 25 years in Georgia.


This is the same name on the Probate Court Notices.


lol



Seriously, Mr. Patrick must have nothing better to do with his time in prison than mess with the PRN Estate....
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Reply #155 posted 02/28/18 8:36pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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http://prince.org/msg/12/233940

I found an old org thread from 2007 where it was discussed that the property across from

PP (L4OA real estate) had been put up on the market.

Malbena was the one that said her researched showed it was L4OA parcels of land. I wonder if she remembers this and why it was taken off?

Or was it Cousins and not P that put the property on the market?

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Reply #156 posted 03/01/18 4:04am

laurarichardso
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I do not argue. I present information. Many us want to know why you keep asking the same questions over and over again.

disch said:

well, I don't actually know what you're referring to, but that's OK. As I said before, I'm pretty sure Laura can handle herself and I doubt she's as perturbed by me as you apparantly are. I kinda get the impression she enjoys arguing and I think she's rather appreciates having people who spar with her rather than, say, ignore her.

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Anyway, that's all I have to say about this silliness. This thread is supposed to be where the few people who are interested in hashing over the estate issues can do so.

Mumio said:

Enraged? lol Nope. I'm grown, cursing is allowed lol My comment is more directed toward repeated behavior on your part. Not just this one time. You know what I am talking about nod A one or two time behavior doesn't require commenting on.


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Reply #157 posted 03/01/18 4:05am

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

nelcp777 said:

There is a DNA request (Writ of Mamandus) for paternity testing of Ogeda Patrick filed in the court documents February 23rd.

I found an Ogeda LeJuan Patrick serving 25 years in Georgia.

This is the same name on the Probate Court Notices.

lol

That is the same person serving jail time.

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Reply #158 posted 03/01/18 4:17am

disch

This is actually pretty funny. Why do I post the “same questions”? I dunno, guess I haven’t seen a good answer? Isn’t the entire nature of conversation about issues related to princes death about people just repeating the same thoughts over and over, given that no new facts have come out in like a year? Regarding the estate specifically, in the 13 THREADS about this topic how many posts have I made? Pretty darn few — go ahead and count if you’d like; I certainly am not going to.
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Anyway, carry on with estate discussions. I’ll continue to post when and what I feel like, and the same rules apply: if you’re not interested, then scroll on by! And if you think my posts violate board rules, take it up with the moderator. Don’t hijack a thread to pick a personal spat.
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laurarichardson said:

I do not argue. I present information. Many us want to know why you keep asking the same questions over and over again.



disch said:


well, I don't actually know what you're referring to, but that's OK. As I said before, I'm pretty sure Laura can handle herself and I doubt she's as perturbed by me as you apparantly are. I kinda get the impression she enjoys arguing and I think she's rather appreciates having people who spar with her rather than, say, ignore her.


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Anyway, that's all I have to say about this silliness. This thread is supposed to be where the few people who are interested in hashing over the estate issues can do so.



Mumio said:




Enraged? lol Nope. I'm grown, cursing is allowed lol My comment is more directed toward repeated behavior on your part. Not just this one time. You know what I am talking about nod A one or two time behavior doesn't require commenting on.







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Reply #159 posted 03/01/18 4:31am

laurarichardso
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You keep asking me about drug addiction and if I believe he was addicted to these drugs. You keep asking about the cancer rumor and that has been explained about a half a dozen times.

It does not matter if you ask the same question 2 times or 20 times it makes appear that something is clearly wrong or that you have some agenda.

I am saying do as you please but stop acting as if you do not know what you are doing.

disch said:

This is actually pretty funny. Why do I post the “same questions”? I dunno, guess I haven’t seen a good answer? Isn’t the entire nature of conversation about issues related to princes death about people just repeating the same thoughts over and over, given that no new facts have come out in like a year? Regarding the estate specifically, in the 13 THREADS about this topic how many posts have I made? Pretty darn few — go ahead and count if you’d like; I certainly am not going to. - Anyway, carry on with estate discussions. I’ll continue to post when and what I feel like, and the same rules apply: if you’re not interested, then scroll on by! And if you think my posts violate board rules, take it up with the moderator. Don’t hijack a thread to pick a personal spat. - laurarichardson said:

I do not argue. I present information. Many us want to know why you keep asking the same questions over and over again.

[Edited 3/1/18 4:26am]

[Edited 3/1/18 7:35am]

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Reply #160 posted 03/01/18 6:40am

1Sasha

I think we can all agree that the estate has, in part, been hijacked by not only family but hangers-on, wannabes, and nefarious advisors. Instead of putting attention to the legacy, they have walked over it to get their hands on anything and everything. As LR has said, even if he had a will or similar document in place, we can now assume these people would have contested it to the bitter end.

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Reply #161 posted 03/01/18 7:15am

rogifan

I think Comerica is doing the best it can under the circumstances. And we have yet to really see what Troy Carter has been working on so it’s impossible to judge.
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Reply #162 posted 03/01/18 7:18am

laurarichardso
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1Sasha said:

I think we can all agree that the estate has, in part, been hijacked by not only family but hangers-on, wannabes, and nefarious advisors. Instead of putting attention to the legacy, they have walked over it to get their hands on anything and everything. As LR has said, even if he had a will or similar document in place, we can now assume these people would have contested it to the bitter end.

Of course they would have because some feel that are owed something or entitled. No reason to keep two versions of the NPG going and band configuration that he was not even working with when he died.

One example of an unnessarcy cash grab for people who need to go and stand on their own two feet.

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Reply #163 posted 03/01/18 8:22am

1Sasha

I do have to say I saw The Revolution last year and loved them. They were absolutely terrific. I don't mind them going out and doing their bit, but the others - no no no.

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Reply #164 posted 03/01/18 8:32am

Rev

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

nelcp777 said:

I don't think Comerica can sell the land for less than 90% of the market value. I believe I read that in some of the earlier documents.

^^^ This is true.

They would have to get an Order from the Judge to sell for less than 90%.

If this is true, it would probably be a problem for the County. I lived in Albertville for several years and the County would have to be involved in approving. Rofigan ?

Comerica would assuredly get more money from a private developer.

While I believe Laura is correct that generational wealth does not exist if people sell off everything. This is a different case. The famalies will have enough of the money they haven't earned. Comerica should sell.

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Reply #165 posted 03/01/18 11:21am

rogifan

Rev said:



ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:




nelcp777 said:



I don't think Comerica can sell the land for less than 90% of the market value. I believe I read that in some of the earlier documents.



^^^ This is true.


They would have to get an Order from the Judge to sell for less than 90%.





If this is true, it would probably be a problem for the County. I lived in Albertville for several years and the County would have to be involved in approving. Rofigan ?



Comerica would assuredly get more money from a private developer.



While I believe Laura is correct that generational wealth does not exist if people sell off everything. This is a different case. The famalies will have enough of the money they haven't earned. Comerica should sell.


That part of the city council meeting wasn’t videotaped. All we have is this document:

https://chanhassen.novusa...ItemID=155
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Reply #166 posted 03/01/18 11:45am

cloveringold85

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disch said:

This is actually pretty funny. Why do I post the “same questions”? I dunno, guess I haven’t seen a good answer? Isn’t the entire nature of conversation about issues related to princes death about people just repeating the same thoughts over and over, given that no new facts have come out in like a year? Regarding the estate specifically, in the 13 THREADS about this topic how many posts have I made? Pretty darn few — go ahead and count if you’d like; I certainly am not going to. - Anyway, carry on with estate discussions. I’ll continue to post when and what I feel like, and the same rules apply: if you’re not interested, then scroll on by! And if you think my posts violate board rules, take it up with the moderator. Don’t hijack a thread to pick a personal spat. - laurarichardson said:

I do not argue. I present information. Many us want to know why you keep asking the same questions over and over again.

[Edited 3/1/18 4:26am]

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If you don't mind me butting in. In Disch's defense; he is not a Troll. He is here quite regularly and shares his own ideas/questions and adds to the conversation(s). wink

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Reply #167 posted 03/01/18 11:46am

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1Sasha said:

I think we can all agree that the estate has, in part, been hijacked by not only family but hangers-on, wannabes, and nefarious advisors. Instead of putting attention to the legacy, they have walked over it to get their hands on anything and everything. As LR has said, even if he had a will or similar document in place, we can now assume these people would have contested it to the bitter end.

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yeahthat

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Reply #168 posted 03/01/18 1:21pm

Rev

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rogifan said:

Rev said:

If this is true, it would probably be a problem for the County. I lived in Albertville for several years and the County would have to be involved in approving. Rofigan ?

Comerica would assuredly get more money from a private developer.

While I believe Laura is correct that generational wealth does not exist if people sell off everything. This is a different case. The famalies will have enough of the money they haven't earned. Comerica should sell.

That part of the city council meeting wasn’t videotaped. All we have is this document: https://chanhassen.novusa...ItemID=155

After checking out the document. It's obvious these lots are ready for development. Up to and including the marsh lands. Easily 160+ acres to make money on.

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Reply #169 posted 03/01/18 1:22pm

laurarichardso
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Rev said:



ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:




nelcp777 said:



I don't think Comerica can sell the land for less than 90% of the market value. I believe I read that in some of the earlier documents.



^^^ This is true.


They would have to get an Order from the Judge to sell for less than 90%.





If this is true, it would probably be a problem for the County. I lived in Albertville for several years and the County would have to be involved in approving. Rofigan ?



Comerica would assuredly get more money from a private developer.



While I believe Laura is correct that generational wealth does not exist if people sell off everything. This is a different case. The famalies will have enough of the money they haven't earned. Comerica should sell.


Thank you I believe they would get more money with a private developer and not running to the city to get a quick buck. I also hope they use the funds they get to more property and investments. Send future generations to college.
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Reply #170 posted 03/01/18 2:07pm

rogifan

Rev said:



rogifan said:


Rev said:




If this is true, it would probably be a problem for the County. I lived in Albertville for several years and the County would have to be involved in approving. Rofigan ?



Comerica would assuredly get more money from a private developer.



While I believe Laura is correct that generational wealth does not exist if people sell off everything. This is a different case. The famalies will have enough of the money they haven't earned. Comerica should sell.



That part of the city council meeting wasn’t videotaped. All we have is this document: https://chanhassen.novusa...ItemID=155



After checking out the document. It's obvious these lots are ready for development. Up to and including the marsh lands. Easily 160+ acres to make money on.




Why would the Estate want to be in residential property development? Anyway they haven't sold anything yet so it’s entirely possible it does end up going to a developer.
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Reply #171 posted 03/01/18 3:13pm

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cloveringold85 said:

disch said:

This is actually pretty funny. Why do I post the “same questions”? I dunno, guess I haven’t seen a good answer? Isn’t the entire nature of conversation about issues related to princes death about people just repeating the same thoughts over and over, given that no new facts have come out in like a year? Regarding the estate specifically, in the 13 THREADS about this topic how many posts have I made? Pretty darn few — go ahead and count if you’d like; I certainly am not going to. - Anyway, carry on with estate discussions. I’ll continue to post when and what I feel like, and the same rules apply: if you’re not interested, then scroll on by! And if you think my posts violate board rules, take it up with the moderator. Don’t hijack a thread to pick a personal spat. - laurarichardson said: [Edited 3/1/18 4:26am]

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If you don't mind me butting in. In Disch's defense; he is not a Troll. He is here quite regularly and shares his own ideas/questions and adds to the conversation(s). wink

yes

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Reply #172 posted 03/01/18 5:14pm

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PennyPurple said:

cloveringold85 said:

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If you don't mind me butting in. In Disch's defense; he is not a Troll. He is here quite regularly and shares his own ideas/questions and adds to the conversation(s). wink

yes

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Reply #173 posted 03/01/18 6:53pm

DD55

rogifan said:

Rev said:

After checking out the document. It's obvious these lots are ready for development. Up to and including the marsh lands. Easily 160+ acres to make money on.

Why would the Estate want to be in residential property development? Anyway they haven't sold anything yet so it’s entirely possible it does end up going to a developer.

Does anyone know the zoning for the property location? It may be impossible to develop much of it due to zoning laws. Also, (at least in NY) wetlands are protected, more so every year, so that may have an impact on what can be done with the property. Does anyone know the details?

thanks, ~~DD55

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Reply #174 posted 03/02/18 4:04am

rogifan

DD55 said:



rogifan said:


Rev said:




After checking out the document. It's obvious these lots are ready for development. Up to and including the marsh lands. Easily 160+ acres to make money on.





Why would the Estate want to be in residential property development? Anyway they haven't sold anything yet so it’s entirely possible it does end up going to a developer.


Does anyone know the zoning for the property location? It may be impossible to develop much of it due to zoning laws. Also, (at least in NY) wetlands are protected, more so every year, so that may have an impact on what can be done with the property. Does anyone know the details?


thanks, ~~DD55




I don’t know the details but it sounds like houses could be put on some of the property and other areas would become part of Lake Ann improvements, more trails.
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Reply #175 posted 03/02/18 12:23pm

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DD55 said:



rogifan said:


Rev said:




After checking out the document. It's obvious these lots are ready for development. Up to and including the marsh lands. Easily 160+ acres to make money on.





Why would the Estate want to be in residential property development? Anyway they haven't sold anything yet so it’s entirely possible it does end up going to a developer.


Does anyone know the zoning for the property location? It may be impossible to develop much of it due to zoning laws. Also, (at least in NY) wetlands are protected, more so every year, so that may have an impact on what can be done with the property. Does anyone know the details?


thanks, ~~DD55




Some portion of the property is zoned for development.
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Reply #176 posted 03/03/18 3:21pm

42Kristen

cry I hate seeing the word deceased.

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Reply #177 posted 03/03/18 6:54pm

tmo1965

SNJ have filed a petition contesting Coamerica and attorney's fees: http://www.mncourts.gov/m...tition.pdf



The fees do sound excessive to me. For example, $1,431 to write a memo. eek The petition is requesting that Coamerica's attorneys be placed on a flat fee arrangement.

So I have a few questions for Orgers who are in the legal field:

1. Why are they paying by the hour anyway? 2. Why did the court allow hourly fees? 3. What criteria have to be met to declare that the estate is settled?

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Reply #178 posted 03/03/18 11:02pm

rap

rogifan said:

Rev said:

After checking out the document. It's obvious these lots are ready for development. Up to and including the marsh lands. Easily 160+ acres to make money on.

Why would the Estate want to be in residential property development? Anyway they haven't sold anything yet so it’s entirely possible it does end up going to a developer.

They have sold at least one of Prince's properties.

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Reply #179 posted 03/04/18 12:42pm

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tmo1965 said:

SNJ have filed a petition contesting Coamerica and attorney's fees: http://www.mncourts.gov/m...tition.pdf



The fees do sound excessive to me. For example, $1,431 to write a memo. eek The petition is requesting that Coamerica's attorneys be placed on a flat fee arrangement.

So I have a few questions for Orgers who are in the legal field:

1. Why are they paying by the hour anyway? 2. Why did the court allow hourly fees? 3. What criteria have to be met to declare that the estate is settled?

I thought they were charging a flat fee and are now asking for a different arrangement.

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