do u really think God would let him die painfully...?

laurarichardson said:

RJOrion said:

how can you be sure that death is a 'painless' and 'pleasant' experience?

If you just stop breathing and die. How painful can it be. He did not slash his wrist or put a gun to his head.

Try holding your breath until you almost pass out, and tell me it doesn't hurt.

EnDoRpHn said:

luvsexy4all said:

do u really think God would let him die painfully...?

God has nothing to do with it.

Unless God lets 19.000 third-world children die,
every day, to the "My Little Pony" theme song.

Why would Prince get a special treatment,
better than any child dying crushed under a collapsed building in Syria?

laurarichardson said:

EnDoRpHn said:

Try holding your breath until you almost pass out, and tell me it doesn't hurt.

You are going to die when you stop breathing. Your time of pain is brief.

I'm pretty sure a shotgun in the head produces a shorter pain.

Apparently, Laura died and came back.
It's only explanation to such a display of authority on the subject.
Oh well. We suspected she was a ghoul anyway.

bonatoc said:

laurarichardson said:

EnDoRpHn said: You are going to die when you stop breathing. Your time of pain is brief.

I'm pretty sure a shotgun in the head produces a shorter pain.

Apparently, Laura died and came back.
It's only explanation to such a display of authority on the subject.
Oh well. We suspected she was a ghoul anyway.

If you shot yourself and you are not successful it will very painful. I actully did stop breathing while standing in my hospital room. I pasted out and cannot recall being any pain.

Next time you want to be a smartass you might want to know what you babbling on about first. Before making a fool out of yourself.

bonatoc said:

laurarichardson said:

EnDoRpHn said: You are going to die when you stop breathing. Your time of pain is brief.

I'm pretty sure a shotgun in the head produces a shorter pain.

Apparently, Laura died and came back.
It's only explanation to such a display of authority on the subject.
Oh well. We suspected she was a ghoul anyway.

She's a medical expert who used to claim that in the time between P falling unconscious on the plane and being brought round by med staff (i think around 15 min) he wasn't breathing!

fortuneandserendipity said:

bonatoc said:

I'm pretty sure a shotgun in the head produces a shorter pain.

Apparently, Laura died and came back.
It's only explanation to such a display of authority on the subject.
Oh well. We suspected she was a ghoul anyway.

She's a medical expert who used to claim that in the time between P falling unconscious on the plane and being brought round by med staff (i think around 15 min) he wasn't breathing!

No you need to take your meds. I said Prince could not have been not breathing for the 25 mins from the call of distress from the plane to time the ambulance came. He would have been dead. I am sorry I do not get all my info from TMZ

By Laura's reckoning, if you choke on your own vomit it's not painful. Like, you're not going 'Ouch!'

RJOrion said:

if the person that wakes you up from death is Lianne Lahavas, you clearly made it to heaven...

...or, according to some, the other place

filthycute08 said:

RJOrion said:

filthycute08 said:

From my personal experiences, a fentanyl overdose is not painful. Maybe others have a different experience.

but, did u died?

Apparently, there's a lot of Others Here With Us.

I still don't think Prince would choose an elevator to pass.
To me, it screams of "Fuck, what is happening to me, I've got to reach for help".
So much for not carrying a cell phone.

RJOrion said:

laurarichardson can tell you how death feels... sexy or nah?

RJOrion said:

if the person that wakes you up from death is Lianne Lahavas, you clearly made it to heaven...

Whereas if that other person wakes you up, it's probably going to be very hot with a lot of screaming. Shit

laurarichardson said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

She's a medical expert who used to claim that in the time between P falling unconscious on the plane and being brought round by med staff (i think around 15 min) he wasn't breathing!

No you need to take your meds. I said Prince could not have been not breathing for the 25 mins from the call of distress from the plane to time the ambulance came. He would have been dead. I am sorry I do not get all my info from TMZ

Thanks for the recollection. Wrong on meds and TMZ though. You really have to stop projecting.

Nobody else was talking about it. It was just you debating it with yourself. You were obsessed at the time with the idea his epilepsy had suddenly returned, caused him to lose consciousness, and because he was still breathing it couldn't have been a drug issue (suspension of disbelief required). Yes, you really are that stupid you thought that an OD causes someone to stop breathing. But anyway, that whole issue was incredibly straw man because no pills ever found pointed towards anti-seizure medication.

[Edited 2/28/18 15:59pm]

bonatoc said:

luvsexy4all said:

do u really think God would let him die painfully...?

God has nothing to do with it.

Unless God lets 19.000 third-world children die,
every day, to the "My Little Pony" theme song.

Why would Prince get a special treatment,
better than any child dying crushed under a collapsed building in Syria?

because of what was in his heart and the road he took to get there

fortuneandserendipity said:

laurarichardson said:

No you need to take your meds. I said Prince could not have been not breathing for the 25 mins from the call of distress from the plane to time the ambulance came. He would have been dead. I am sorry I do not get all my info from TMZ

Thanks for the recollection. Wrong on meds and TMZ though. You really have to stop projecting.

Nobody else was talking about it. It was just you debating it with yourself. You were obsessed at the time with the idea his epilepsy had suddenly returned, caused him to lose consciousness, and because he was still breathing it couldn't have been a drug issue (suspension of disbelief required). Yes, you really are that stupid you thought that an OD causes someone to stop breathing. But anyway, that whole issue was incredibly straw man because no pills ever found pointed towards anti-seizure medication.

[Edited 2/28/18 15:59pm]

Nah you need meds I am pretty sure of it. I was not debating with myself you are getting confused again.

It was Dr. Drew who said that what happened to Prince did not sound like a pain pill overdose but like a seizure. We know that Prince said he had seizures when he was young and one of those unamed sources said he had Diazepam in his system which is some times used for seizures with people epilepsy.

I never thought he stopped breathing or was going to die on that plane. Other people thought otherwise and my point was he was still breathing on the plane and what Judith described according to Dr. Drew did not seem to be an overdose.

We really have no idea what happened in Moline other then media reports which were generated from TMZ who did actually lie about what time he left the hospital and his state of mind according to Judith and flight records. I do not take TMZ seriously as they are now working with Lonnie.

As far as any knowledge I would have about people's medical state while overdosing that lack of knowledge would mean I have not spent my life around dope addicts which is a good thing. I still suspect that several people on this board project their drug problems on to Prince's stituation while not having one piece of crediable information concerning his over all health.

laurarichardson said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

Thanks for the recollection. Wrong on meds and TMZ though. You really have to stop projecting.

Nobody else was talking about it. It was just you debating it with yourself. You were obsessed at the time with the idea his epilepsy had suddenly returned, caused him to lose consciousness, and because he was still breathing it couldn't have been a drug issue (suspension of disbelief required). Yes, you really are that stupid you thought that an OD causes someone to stop breathing. But anyway, that whole issue was incredibly straw man because no pills ever found pointed towards anti-seizure medication.

[Edited 2/28/18 15:59pm]

Nah you need meds I am pretty sure of it. I was not debating with myself you are getting confused again.

It was Dr. Drew who said that what happened to Prince did not sound like a pain pill overdose but like a seizure. We know that Prince said he had seizures when he was young and one of those unamed sources said he had Diazepam in his system which is some times used for seizures with people epilepsy.

I never thought he stopped breathing or was going to die on that plane. Other people thought otherwise and my point was he was still breathing on the plane and what Judith described according to Dr. Drew did not seem to be an overdose.

We really have no idea what happened in Moline other then media reports which were generated from TMZ who did actually lie about what time he left the hospital and his state of mind according to Judith and flight records. I do not take TMZ seriously as they are now working with Lonnie.

As far as any knowledge I would have about people's medical state while overdosing that lack of knowledge would mean I have not spent my life around dope addicts which is a good thing. I still suspect that several people on this board project their drug problems on to Prince's stituation while not having one piece of crediable information concerning his over all health.

It's funny. Do you actually have self-awareness? I guess not, because you have no perception or thinking skills. When you lose the argument you accuse the other person of taking meds. Projection issue again.

Dr Drew believes P died from a drug OD. He said P died from a drug OD countless times and that the moline incident was an earlier OD. What you're doing is taking one thing he said out of context, which is stupid. Other points you made are just facile. TMZ working with Lonnie. Lonnie bad. Lonnie abuser of the estate. TMZ always bad.

TMZ try to report facts by stalking celebrities. Which is different from National Enquirer, who stalk celebrities but make up stuff anyway. Anyway, about fentanyl. Many documentaries about it. Users claim it's more addictive than heroin, probably because of its very short half life. What makes you think P was immune to its addictive qualities? What makes you think he hadn't taken it prior to Jan '16? And what makes you think his death wasn't as straightforward as the clear evidence suggests?

I'll leave that to you to debate and pontificate between yourself (just yourself).

RJOrion said:

laurarichardson said:

RJOrion said: If you just stop breathing and die. How painful can it be. He did not slash his wrist or put a gun to his head.

how about those moments before death?...when you cant catch your breath?...when your heart valves malfunction??...when your soul leaves your body and your brain begins to short circuit, and your body convulses and seizes up???.. how can you be so sure that shit dont hurt like hell???....just getting your wind knocked out (getting hit in the stomach or midsection) while playing sports is among the most painful & frightening shit on earth....now imagine getting your wind PERMANENTLY knocked out....you trying to tell me that shit dont hurt?...or even those last thoughts while all the life ending shit is going on, and you KNOW you're about to expire...you think that shit dont hurt???... i dont believe you...we dont even know how P died...so how can we even guess that he fell asleep peacefully???...cmon laura

Didn't he pass out, like on the plane a week earlier?

luvsexy4all said:

bonatoc said:

God has nothing to do with it.

Unless God lets 19.000 third-world children die,
every day, to the "My Little Pony" theme song.

Why would Prince get a special treatment,
better than any child dying crushed under a collapsed building in Syria?

because of what was in his heart and the road he took to get there

The god that chooses to let all those children die in poverty and pain yet makes time to allow the painless death of a middle-aged multi-millionaire musician who has led a mostly wonderful life is not one I think any of us can get behind.

SometimesIwonder said:

When Lianne says “Hot” at the end, it always sounded strange to me. But it wasn’t there for no reason, everything had a reason for Prince. On reflection, meanings of Hot, could be stolen or dodgy or illegal? Made me think that the medication he was given was “Hot” [Edited 3/3/18 6:17am]

nah...it seems like she's saying it just because the music sounds so good at that point... doesnt seem like there's any deeper meaning there...just an exclamation....

It's clues throughout this "goodbye" album that Prince was giving. Which is the reason he was so adamant about putting it out.

[Edited 3/3/18 12:54pm]

Well, as far as the fentanyl goes. My best friend from childhood who is a nurse calls it the "forget-me" drug, one that they give you as a cocktail with others such as Valium when they put you under for surgery. When my mother was dying of lung cancer, at the end I had to help put the fentanyl patches on and off her, being careful not to touch them ungloved, as the medication is so strong. If this was the drug that truly took him from us, he was most probably unconscious, so that is that.

100% I belive he was diagonesed with cancer or something like that...he knew

that album, the song TIME and JUNE all mean something

RJOrion said:

laurarichardson can tell you how death feels... sexy or nah?

if the person that wakes you up from death is Lianne Lahavas, you clearly made it to heaven...

sexy or nah?