laurarichardson said:

Menes said:

Jesus of Nazareth help us all.

Why. More then one person is telling you this and this person is telling you it was not even private. It is what it is. I want to ask you why this is worrying you so much? Prince was a human perfectly capable of being ill and having more then one health issue.

Goodness look at Tom Petty he was dealing with a half dozen issues at one time.

Figure of speech , dear. Worried? I think you have me mixed up with someone who gives a crap about whether people "think" they know that he had "cancer".

I brought it up because there is something terribly off with that information and I think there is more than enough information out there to dispel such a rumor. At this point, that is all that it is. A rumor. I don't even know why you would even invoke the name of "Charles" as it relates to anything we should give serious consideration to. Maybe your fingers slipped?

Strawberrylova123 said:

Why is it so hard for people to understand that his family is not keeping this like a deep dark secret they're respecting his privacy! This is the same man who didn't talk publicly or even privately ( according to mayte) about his own child's death so what makes you think he's going to air his private business to his fans. We live in a age where people air every private thing going on in their lives, David Bowie didn't tell the world he was ill with cancer when he was alive because he was private like prince. [Edited 1/23/18 10:35am]

Don't waste your time. The know goddamm well that Prince was not going to call a press conference to discuss his health. Most celebrities do not unless they are outed because for one thing they have to work and they will not insured if promotors or movie studios think they will be sick or die.

It is also not anyone's business. It is difficult to deal with illness as it is without the world stiring at you.

I also cannot figure out why they cannot accept that he may have been dealing with muliple issues. It is believable for Tom but not Prince. As if he was super negro incapable of being ill.

Morris Day said last year he belived Prince was ill and if he was he would have never told anyone in a million years. He said he was just not a serious person and he thought when he invited him up to PP in January it was his way of saying goodbye.

One of his best and oldest friends can accept it we should as well.

Menes said:

laurarichardson said:

Why. More then one person is telling you this and this person is telling you it was not even private. It is what it is. I want to ask you why this is worrying you so much? Prince was a human perfectly capable of being ill and having more then one health issue.

Goodness look at Tom Petty he was dealing with a half dozen issues at one time.

Figure of speech , dear. Worried? I think you have me mixed up with someone who gives a crap about whether people "think" they know that he had "cancer".

I brought it up because there is something terribly off with that information and I think there is more than enough information out there to dispel such a rumor. At this point, that is all that it is. A rumor. I don't even know why you would even invoke the name of "Charles" as it relates to anything we should give serious consideration to. Maybe your fingers slipped?

You are the one flipping out about this rumor not me. I do not care if you believe it or not. Go back and read what I wrote and you will see why I mentioned Charles Smith. He is a family member who did a long interview recently and he expressed his frustrations and he mentioned other family member being fraustraed. You wanted to know why they would discuss these matters on Social media.

I tried to answer your question. If you do not want to take what he or other family members have to say so be it. After all Prince was your blood and you know best?

laurarichardson said:

Menes said:

Figure of speech , dear. Worried? I think you have me mixed up with someone who gives a crap about whether people "think" they know that he had "cancer".

I brought it up because there is something terribly off with that information and I think there is more than enough information out there to dispel such a rumor. At this point, that is all that it is. A rumor. I don't even know why you would even invoke the name of "Charles" as it relates to anything we should give serious consideration to. Maybe your fingers slipped?

You are the one flipping out about this rumor not me. I do not care if you believe it or not. Go back and read what I wrote and you will see why I mentioned Charles Smith. He is a family member who did a long interview recently and he expressed his frustrations and he mentioned other family member being fraustraed. You wanted to know why they would discuss these matters on Social media.

I tried to answer your question. If you do not want to take what he or other family members have to say so be it. After all Prince was your blood and you know best?

Easy , easy , easy. I don't want to see you upset. You are doing very well. At some point, I'll pass along some data (PUBLICLY) that might make you change your mind about the cancer. Just saying.

Menes said:

laurarichardson said:

You are the one flipping out about this rumor not me. I do not care if you believe it or not. Go back and read what I wrote and you will see why I mentioned Charles Smith. He is a family member who did a long interview recently and he expressed his frustrations and he mentioned other family member being fraustraed. You wanted to know why they would discuss these matters on Social media.

I tried to answer your question. If you do not want to take what he or other family members have to say so be it. After all Prince was your blood and you know best?

Easy , easy , easy. I don't want to see you upset. You are doing very well. At some point, I'll pass along some data (PUBLICLY) that might make you change your mind about the cancer. Just saying.

I am not upset and no data you post is going to change what his family members are saying. We simpley have no access to his health records or the whole autopsy report. We might have access to some of this info it the case actually goes to trial but that is neither here or there.

His associates keep saying we do not know the whole story. Well we know he was using pain pills so what is the rest of the story?

[Edited 1/23/18 12:08pm]

First, Laura, calm down.

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Second: It's totally understandable why Prince (or many others) would keep their health conditions secret while they're alive. What's more confusing is what happens after death. After all, the reason we know about Petty and Bowie's health conditions is because they were confirmed almost immediately post-mortem.

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Third, it's not implausible that Prince had multiple health problems. We know pretty for sure of at least one (the hip/leg problems that resulted in surgery with the noted scars). But end-stage terminal panceatic cancer is not just a "health problem," and it's not something that any person would deal with by self-medicating with illegal opioids acquired on the black market.

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Finally, I know that you LR believe that prince had both end-stage terminal cancer and committed suicide. So if privacy even after death was so vitally important to Prince, why on earth would he kill himself in a manner guaranteed to bring on maximum publicity -- in his house, ODing on illegal drugs, leaving his body slumped in an elevator to be discovered 6 hours later by his unuspecting friends/employees, etc.? (Just to be clear: I don't think he committed suicide.)

laurarichardson said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

Why is it so hard for people to understand that his family is not keeping this like a deep dark secret they're respecting his privacy! This is the same man who didn't talk publicly or even privately ( according to mayte) about his own child's death so what makes you think he's going to air his private business to his fans. We live in a age where people air every private thing going on in their lives, David Bowie didn't tell the world he was ill with cancer when he was alive because he was private like prince. [Edited 1/23/18 10:35am]

Don't waste your time. The know goddamm well that Prince was not going to call a press conference to discuss his health. Most celebrities do not unless they are outed because for one thing they have to work and they will not insured if promotors or movie studios think they will be sick or die.

It is also not anyone's business. It is difficult to deal with illness as it is without the world stiring at you.

I also cannot figure out why they cannot accept that he may have been dealing with muliple issues. It is believable for Tom but not Prince. As if he was super negro incapable of being ill.

Morris Day said last year he belived Prince was ill and if he was he would have never told anyone in a million years. He said he was just not a serious person and he thought when he invited him up to PP in January it was his way of saying goodbye.

One of his best and oldest friends can accept it we should as well.

laurarichardson said:

laurarichardson said:

Menes said:

Easy , easy , easy. I don't want to see you upset. You are doing very well. At some point, I'll pass along some data (PUBLICLY) that might make you change your mind about the cancer. Just saying.

I am not upset and no data you post is going to change what his family members are saying. We simpley have no access to his health records or the whole autopsy report. We might have access to some of this info it the case actually goes to trial but that is neither here or there.

His associates keep saying we do not know the whole story. Well we know he was using pain pills so what is the rest of the story?

[Edited 1/23/18 12:08pm]

Well, you're a logical person aren't you? The data will be "logical". If I was a disgruntled family member, I too wouldn't change a thing until I got paid too. You and I are doing this for free. We are neutral and just want the truth and the facts to bare out.


Please remember where you were on other "matters" not too long ago. Screen shot yourself sometime. Change is not so bad. As always, more to come.

Strawberrylova123 said:

laurarichardson said:

Don't waste your time. The know goddamm well that Prince was not going to call a press conference to discuss his health. Most celebrities do not unless they are outed because for one thing they have to work and they will not insured if promotors or movie studios think they will be sick or die.

It is also not anyone's business. It is difficult to deal with illness as it is without the world stiring at you.

I also cannot figure out why they cannot accept that he may have been dealing with muliple issues. It is believable for Tom but not Prince. As if he was super negro incapable of being ill.

Morris Day said last year he belived Prince was ill and if he was he would have never told anyone in a million years. He said he was just not a serious person and he thought when he invited him up to PP in January it was his way of saying goodbye.

One of his best and oldest friends can accept it we should as well.

Yes I'm done discussing this topic with people, they will eventually find out the TRUTH

Da TROOF. Yes yes, of course. I'm with you on that one.

I am not in the least upset.

Bowie and Petty died in New York and California. I am not sure about New York but CA the full autopshy report is public. So there is no use in hiding anything. Both musicians were close to their families and actually had family around when they died.

Prince died alone by his choice and I am sure he did not tell very many people his personal business and even if he did a few seem fircely loyal.

What if he had just found out he had PC. You do know that this type of cancer gives no warning and people can be told there is nothing that can be done about it. Stop assuming he was handling his cancer with pain pills for years or months. Could have been sprung on him recently. I know people who have had terminal cancer who have just been given meds and sent on there way to die.

He had other meds written for him under Kirk's name. Why would he have not had pain meds written in someone eles's name. Why would he not have had other meds that were not controlled substances written in someone else's name We just do not have access to his health file to know any of this.

You seem to think that celebrity does not make a difference it does. They do not do things the way the rest of do because they do not have to and they have more to lose.

We have watched as the vultures come immedialy after he died to pick his bones and get scrapes.

What do you think would have happened if hoards of the vultures knew he might be dying?

What difference would it make if he was laying in an elavator or sleeping in bed? PR was going to come no matter where he died. From day one this business about the elavator has been blown so far out of propotion is it unreal. What if he just decided to take a posion pill and let things happen?

He was shutting things down. Not ramping things up. He told people to come and get their stuff as they might not be able to get them out later. Why would he do that if he was going to rehab and coming back? Why would he tell the promoter in Atlanta that he had to go back and see his doctor to see what was wrong and to put the concerts on hold. One of which was in a areana.

That was his money he put on hold. I think he had struggles with pain pills but something else was going on with his health. This is what I think. My choice. I am not mad or the least upset if you do not agree. We agree to disagree

disch said:

First, Laura, calm down.

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Second: It's totally understandable why Prince (or many others) would keep their health conditions secret while they're alive. What's more confusing is what happens after death. After all, the reason we know about Petty and Bowie's health conditions is because they were confirmed almost immediately post-mortem.

-

Third, it's not implausible that Prince had multiple health problems. We know pretty for sure of at least one (the hip/leg problems that resulted in surgery with the noted scars). But end-stage terminal panceatic cancer is not just a "health problem," and it's not something that any person would deal with by self-medicating with illegal opioids acquired on the black market.

-

Finally, I know that you LR believe that prince had both end-stage terminal cancer and committed suicide. So if privacy even after death was so vitally important to Prince, why on earth would he kill himself in a manner guaranteed to bring on maximum publicity -- in his house, ODing on illegal drugs, leaving his body slumped in an elevator to be discovered 6 hours later by his unuspecting friends/employees, etc.? (Just to be clear: I don't think he committed suicide.)

laurarichardson said:

Don't waste your time. The know goddamm well that Prince was not going to call a press conference to discuss his health. Most celebrities do not unless they are outed because for one thing they have to work and they will not insured if promotors or movie studios think they will be sick or die.

It is also not anyone's business. It is difficult to deal with illness as it is without the world stiring at you.

I also cannot figure out why they cannot accept that he may have been dealing with muliple issues. It is believable for Tom but not Prince. As if he was super negro incapable of being ill.

Morris Day said last year he belived Prince was ill and if he was he would have never told anyone in a million years. He said he was just not a serious person and he thought when he invited him up to PP in January it was his way of saying goodbye.

One of his best and oldest friends can accept it we should as well.

[Edited 1/23/18 13:14pm]

I for one am more concerned if there was malicous intent somewhere...or careless handlers....not if he was sick and wanted privacy.

Strawberrylova123 said:

laurarichardson said:

Don't waste your time. The know goddamm well that Prince was not going to call a press conference to discuss his health. Most celebrities do not unless they are outed because for one thing they have to work and they will not insured if promotors or movie studios think they will be sick or die.

It is also not anyone's business. It is difficult to deal with illness as it is without the world stiring at you.

I also cannot figure out why they cannot accept that he may have been dealing with muliple issues. It is believable for Tom but not Prince. As if he was super negro incapable of being ill.

Morris Day said last year he belived Prince was ill and if he was he would have never told anyone in a million years. He said he was just not a serious person and he thought when he invited him up to PP in January it was his way of saying goodbye.

One of his best and oldest friends can accept it we should as well.

Yes I'm done discussing this topic with people, they will eventually find out the TRUTH

Co-sign. Life goes on.

Even if he was secretly dying from some illness, he certainly didnt want to die lying in some hospital. Shelia E. said Prince didn't want to see doctor, he didn't need that. Prince was just not ordinary you. You must eat that fact. What we know is that opiates are not something you mess around with lightly, he was in a deep hole of pain.

Menes said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

I didn't start the cancer rumor so stop saying that I'm the one who started the rumor! I was one of the people on this forum who didn't believe that prince had any terminal illness until i got info. And the person close within the camp posted this info on a public fb post so this info isn't private

Jesus of Nazareth help us all.

You just can't make this stuff up.

PennyPurple said:

Menes said:

Help me to understand this: It wasn't a family member/doctor/ ME that came in here and posted this , IT WAS YOU.

You are the one who posted the "cancer" rumor, and by doing so, effectively rendered any rights to Prince's privacy , null and void in a PUBLIC FORUM. Were you given permission to do so? I bet not. So it is now up to us to hold you accountable for posting said rumor, when in fact, you don't know if it is a fact. None of you know it to be fact.

Agree Menes, you are correct.

Once again, Menes sums things up powerfully and truthfully.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

laurarichardson said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Once again, Menes sums things up powerfully and truthfully.

No he does not. Lol

Tell us, Laura. Im all ears.

Menes said:

laurarichardson said:

Bodhitheblackdog said: No he does not. Lol

Tell us, Laura. Im all ears.

Or don't.

Menes said:

laurarichardson said:

Bodhitheblackdog said: No he does not. Lol

Tell us, Laura. Im all ears.

Laura really thinks she's the only one who knows the truth.

ThatWhiteDude said:

Menes said:

Tell us, Laura. Im all ears.

Laura really thinks she's the only one who knows the truth.

Now that we have LR and Jesus of Nazareth on this thread, we're ready to rock!

To the OP: If the following information is found to be in conflict with the thread, I will understand and post elsewhere.

All of this "cancer" business makes for an interesting discussion since some have unequivocally , and in no uncertain terms , made it the center piece of why Prince was self-medicating. The information below is but a starting point in order to correlate such a bombastic claim with any external information that can be verified. There will be more information forthcoming. Perhaps the proponents of such a claim would be able to readily defend or refute the information that can be verified.


1. Minnesota Board of Medical Practice. All protocols are recorded and are governed by the Minnesota Board of Medical Practice. Any information regarding a treating physician can be accessed . It includes but is not limited to; Licensing, disciplinary action, Laws and rules, for both physicians and professional medical firms.

2. The Minnesota Board of Pharmacy, also has its own protocols and is governed by a set of by-laws laid out in MN Stats sec. 214.108 . It is important to understand how both of the agencies interact as it relates to violations , dispensing of prescribed medication, licensing and governance.

3. North Memorial Medical Center. This is where Dr. Schulenberg was working as a family health care provider( according to the spokesperson for the hospital, Lesa Bader) while treating Prince. Dr. Schulenberg had been practicing medicine for (19) years at the time of Prince's passing. It is important to understand how the hospital interacts with both of the agencies listed above.

4. North Memorial Health Cancer Care. Here you will find a list of conditions, list of services, care team and an approach to care for cancer and/or pain management.

5. Amy Conners represents Dr. Schulenberg. Her client is not a suspect, has never been in violation of hospital treatment/ protocol of any patient and is currently still employed.

Menes said:

Menes said:

Menes said:

To the OP: If the following information is found to be in conflict with the thread, I will understand and post elsewhere.

All of this "cancer" business makes for an interesting discussion since some have unequivocally , and in no uncertain terms , made it the center piece of why Prince was self-medicating. The information below is but a starting point in order to correlate such a bombastic claim with any external information that can be verified. There will be more information forthcoming. Perhaps the proponents of such a claim would be able to readily defend or refute the information that can be verified.


1. Minnesota Board of Medical Practice. All protocols are recorded and are governed by the Minnesota Board of Medical Practice. Any information regarding a treating physician can be accessed . It includes but is not limited to; Licensing, disciplinary action, Laws and rules, for both physicians and professional medical firms.

2. The Minnesota Board of Pharmacy, also has its own protocols and is governed by a set of by-laws laid out in MN Stats sec. 214.108 . It is important to understand how both of the agencies interact as it relates to violations , dispensing of prescribed medication, licensing and governance.

3. North Memorial Medical Center. This is where Dr. Schulenberg was working as a family health care provider( according to the spokesperson for the hospital, Lesa Bader) while treating Prince. Dr. Schulenberg had been practicing medicine for (19) years at the time of Prince's passing. It is important to understand how the hospital interacts with both of the agencies listed above.

4. North Memorial Health Cancer Care. Here you will find a list of conditions, list of services, care team and an approach to care for cancer and/or pain management.

5. Amy Conners represents Dr. Schulenberg. Her client is not a suspect, has never been in violation of hospital treatment/ protocol of any patient and is currently still employed.

Has anyone seen my love? She left her slip over here and won't return my calls. It's gonna be a long long night over at that private facebook group. Call me babes.

laurarichardson said:

Menes said:

To the OP: If the following information is found to be in conflict with the thread, I will understand and post elsewhere.

All of this "cancer" business makes for an interesting discussion since some have unequivocally , and in no uncertain terms , made it the center piece of why Prince was self-medicating. The information below is but a starting point in order to correlate such a bombastic claim with any external information that can be verified. There will be more information forthcoming. Perhaps the proponents of such a claim would be able to readily defend or refute the information that can be verified.


1. Minnesota Board of Medical Practice. All protocols are recorded and are governed by the Minnesota Board of Medical Practice. Any information regarding a treating physician can be accessed . It includes but is not limited to; Licensing, disciplinary action, Laws and rules, for both physicians and professional medical firms.

2. The Minnesota Board of Pharmacy, also has its own protocols and is governed by a set of by-laws laid out in MN Stats sec. 214.108 . It is important to understand how both of the agencies interact as it relates to violations , dispensing of prescribed medication, licensing and governance.

3. North Memorial Medical Center. This is where Dr. Schulenberg was working as a family health care provider( according to the spokesperson for the hospital, Lesa Bader) while treating Prince. Dr. Schulenberg had been practicing medicine for (19) years at the time of Prince's passing. It is important to understand how the hospital interacts with both of the agencies listed above.

4. North Memorial Health Cancer Care. Here you will find a list of conditions, list of services, care team and an approach to care for cancer and/or pain management.

5. Amy Conners represents Dr. Schulenberg. Her client is not a suspect, has never been in violation of hospital treatment/ protocol of any patient and is currently still employed.

—This tells us nothing

Ahh, there you are. Right on cue. Had me worried. It doesn't? Are you sure it tells you nothing? Did you look up anything or did you speed read and concluded that there is nothng there?

Bodhitheblackdog said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

Laura really thinks she's the only one who knows the truth.

Now that we have LR and Jesus of Nazareth on this thread, we're ready to rock!

laurarichardson said:

Menes said:

Tell us, Laura. Im all ears.

—Dude give up with the baiting and let it go. I have answered all Your questions.

You think this is bait? It's a small spoon. You don't recognize it?

Menes said:

Menes said:

To the OP: If the following information is found to be in conflict with the thread, I will understand and post elsewhere.

All of this "cancer" business makes for an interesting discussion since some have unequivocally , and in no uncertain terms , made it the center piece of why Prince was self-medicating. The information below is but a starting point in order to correlate such a bombastic claim with any external information that can be verified. There will be more information forthcoming. Perhaps the proponents of such a claim would be able to readily defend or refute the information that can be verified.


1. Minnesota Board of Medical Practice. All protocols are recorded and are governed by the Minnesota Board of Medical Practice. Any information regarding a treating physician can be accessed . It includes but is not limited to; Licensing, disciplinary action, Laws and rules, for both physicians and professional medical firms.

2. The Minnesota Board of Pharmacy, also has its own protocols and is governed by a set of by-laws laid out in MN Stats sec. 214.108 . It is important to understand how both of the agencies interact as it relates to violations , dispensing of prescribed medication, licensing and governance.

3. North Memorial Medical Center. This is where Dr. Schulenberg was working as a family health care provider( according to the spokesperson for the hospital, Lesa Bader) while treating Prince. Dr. Schulenberg had been practicing medicine for (19) years at the time of Prince's passing. It is important to understand how the hospital interacts with both of the agencies listed above.

4. North Memorial Health Cancer Care. Here you will find a list of conditions, list of services, care team and an approach to care for cancer and/or pain management.

5. Amy Conners represents Dr. Schulenberg. Her client is not a suspect, has never been in violation of hospital treatment/ protocol of any patient and is currently still employed.

Has anyone seen my love? She left her slip over here and won't return my calls. It's gonna be a long long night over at that private facebook group. Call me babes.

Menes, I got tears in my eyes for laughing at that comment

ThatWhiteDude said:

Menes said:

Has anyone seen my love? She left her slip over here and won't return my calls. It's gonna be a long long night over at that private facebook group. Call me babes.

Menes, I got tears in my eyes for laughing at that comment

Oh. Yea, last time her and I were playing "connect the dots" and when she started losing , out of no where, she crapped on the board and strutted around like a pigeon as if she had won. Needless to say, I pointed it out and she rationed the puss (40) days and (40) nights. You can understand the angst.

Menes said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

Menes, I got tears in my eyes for laughing at that comment

Oh. Yea, last time her and I were playing "connect the dots" and when she started losing , out of no where, she crapped on the board and strutted around like a pigeon as if she had won. Needless to say, I pointed it out and she rationed the puss (40) days and (40) nights. You can understand the angst.