I trust that the ME has more knowledge and experience in making theses conclusions than you or I do. I take her conclusions over people who got their knowledge from "some person who posted something on Facebook."

-

(Side note: You now believe Prince committed suicide? You've posted dozens of posts chastising anyone who even proposed this theory! Didn't take much to turn you around on this!)

laurarichardson said:

disch said:

The lack of note isn't only what caused the ME's determination. It was her complete evaluation of the scene, the evidence, his physical state -- info that the public has almost no access to -- using the expertise she's gained in her extensive training and experience, which also is something that, unless we're MEs, we don't have.

-

Here's an article that gives some insight into this determination:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih....MC4411039/

==

[Edited 1/22/18 14:17pm]

[Edited 1/22/18 14:27pm]

—ME cannot know what was going on in his head. No note and nothing obvious like a self-inflicted shot or hanging no reason to say suicide.

Here is Tom Petty's official autopsy summary report, from the LA coroner:

http://mec.lacounty.gov/w...2017-07259

-

Under Other Significant Causes, it says:

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

In L.A the ME report is public so they have to be transparent. His wife said he had cardiac problems so he may not have been getting any surgery.

This is what his wife and daughter said, and nothing is mentioned about having a known heart problem.

Our family sat together this morning with the Medical Examiner – Coroner’s office and we were informed of their final analysis that Tom Petty passed away due to an accidental drug overdose as a result of taking a variety of medications.

Unfortunately Tom’s body suffered from many serious ailments including emphysema, knee problems and most significantly a fractured hip.

Despite this painful injury he insisted on keeping his commitment to his fans and he toured for 53 dates with a fractured hip and, as he did, it worsened to a more serious injury.

On the day he died he was informed his hip had graduated to a full on break and it is our feeling that the pain was simply unbearable and was the cause for his over use of medication.

We knew before the report was shared with us that he was prescribed various pain medications for a multitude of issues including Fentanyl patches and we feel confident that this was, as the coroner found, an unfortunate accident.

As a family we recognize this report may spark a further discussion on the opioid crisis and we feel that it is a healthy and necessary discussion and we hope in some way this report can save lives. Many people who overdose begin with a legitimate injury or simply do not understand the potency and deadly nature of these medications.

On a positive note we now know for certain he went painlessly and beautifully exhausted after doing what he loved the most, for one last time, performing live with his unmatchable rock band for his loyal fans on the biggest tour of his 40 plus year career. He was extremely proud of that achievement in the days before he passed.

We continue to mourn with you and marvel at Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers' incredible positive impact on music and the world. And we thank you all for your love and support over the last months.

Thank you also for respecting the memory of a man who was truly great during his time on this planet both publicly and privately.

We would be grateful if you could respect the privacy of the entire Heartbreaker family during this difficult time.

Dana Petty and Adria Petty

https://www.billboard.com...l-overdose

laurarichardson said:

Menes said:

Has anyone put (2) and (2) together to come up with why it is NOT cancer?

All things being equal, all we have is a "post" that someone, who was related to someone, told someone, that another someone, was told by someone in the family, that Prince told someone that they should prepare... Are we going to challenge that "post" or just let it bask in all of its glory?

I say its time to seek a few things out and suss this shit out. There are ways to put (2) and (2) together.

I remain open-minded and it wouldn't change a thing for me if he did have cancer, but it's time to put up or shut up. As you people say around here, " receipts"!

—It is unethical to put personal post out into the public. A few of us have seen these post and I asked a few people I correspond with had they heard about an illnesss. 2 said pancreatic cancer and one just said cancer. All it means is that the same rumor is going around and it is going from family members. I also think people need to understand that if he had terminal cancer there was not going to be any treatment.

Unethical? Come on now, LR. Did you get the "post" directly from the source ( the family member) who instructed you not to post it anywhere else or did you get it in a facebook group? I'm not knocking how you got it, but it being "unethical " to post a rumor is a bit of a stretch, isn't it?

Menes said:

laurarichardson said:

Tyka's husband said he never said that one of the British tabloids published that rubbish.

Many of us know that rumors from his own family members are saying he had a dianosis of Pancretic Cancer. We do not know if this is true or if he family even knew about cancer or his drug issues.

I can believe he may have been dealing with both and trying to go cold turkey since these drugs must be stopped if his organs were going bad and any treatment was coming for cancer.

I can believe that the pill was not taken as an accident. At least two band members have said he told them to go to Paisley Park and get their things out 7 days before he died because they might not be able to get them for a while.

Prince was the executor of his Dad's estate and his dad did not have a will. He knew what would happen without a will and he took the time to send out e-mails to 30 people concerning Paisley Park and put deals in place with WB and Tidal. His operation was almost complely shut down and the security cameras removed. I think he was a man living on borrowed time and not a man planning to go to rehab and go back to work.

All good points.

1. Let's say that Tyka knew he had cancer and was self-medicating in secrecy to deal with the pain... This could explain why she was not at all surprised when death came. She had to have known that it would come either by him succumbing to the illness, or, as I have said a million times before ,he would eventually end it himself. Her reaction would therefore not be unusual when you think of what she had to have known . I gather from that type of reaction, that she had prior knowledge of his usage and the risk that comes with it as in: (possible overdose). For her, it was probably more of a relief that he went out quickly and ended the suffering once and for all. She had at least (3) years to deal with knowing.

2. As to Prince going thru withdrawals... As both Rebeljuice and yourself have pointed out, there were too many signs that he was trying to quit cold turkey. This had to have been the worst thing he could have done to himself. If he had cancer, but wanted to get a handle on his addiction, the better strategy would have been to adjust the dosage(s) or change the type of medication prescribed. It's such a common thing to do that it baffles the mind that one would intentionally ignore such a common practice, or , convince yourself that none of those options would have made a difference. There is just no evidence that Prince's cognitive skills were so diminished that he could not think about that. This is why I believe that this is so intentional. Intentional as in, there is nothing else I can really do.

3. I believe as Rebel Juice stated(paraphrasing here) that he could not take anymore of the withdrawals and with reckless abandon, shoveled a number of things down. This is that "whatever happens , happens" moment.

4. There is a saying about "picking your own death". I think Prince picked his death. He had options to deal with things so differently but he chose a different path, intentionally. It's like the guy who crosses five lanes of the highway around rush hour with headphones and blinders on.

5. I just think that the people who claim he was suffering from any type of cancer should examine what is so bad about him dying in the way that he did as opposed to that long term suffering and withering away @ Paisley Park if he did in fact had cancer.

Sounds like Prince to me.

laurarichardson said:

cloveringold85 said:

.

I don't know much details surrounding Petty's health problems/drug use, so I can't really comment on that. I don't know if Petty's doctor just gave him some Fentanyl patches to hold him over until he had surgery or took time off to let his hip heal, but then his hip was fractured, so he most-likely would have needed surgery.

.

From my perspective, Petty's family seems to be transparent in his cause of death. They aren't creating a shroud of mystery surrounding his death and secrets from the fans and general public, so it's an entirely different situation than Prince's, imo.

In L.A the ME report is public so they have to be transparent. His wife said he had cardiac problems so he may not have been getting any surgery.

laura, we may need to start a new thread elsewhere. Why was Tom Petty taking Acetyl Fentanyl, which is a designer drug and not a prescription drug? This info is right on the autopsy report and it shows he was also using Fentanyl and despropionyl fentanyl. So he had legal access, so why the illegal drug then?

http://mec.lacounty.gov/w...2017-07259



Edited to add: I have copied this post to the Tom Petty post here http://www.prince.org/msg/8/451345?pg=2

[Edited 1/23/18 7:48am]

disch said:

disch said:

Thanks disch!

disch said:

Here is Tom Petty's official autopsy summary report, from the LA coroner:

http://mec.lacounty.gov/w...2017-07259

-

Under Other Significant Causes, it says:

CORONARY ARTERY ATHEROSCLEROSIS, EMPHYSEMA

-

These are listed even though they did not cause his immediate death (that was organ failure and cardiac arrest caused by multiple drug toxicity) and even though they weren't even imminently terminal in and of themselves. Yet in Prince's case, the Other Significant Causes list "none applicable," even though some people here think he was in the final stage of terminal cancer. I think that end-stage terminal cancer would have been listed on Prince's short form, especially if it was a main reason he was taking opioids in the first place.

-

PennyPurple said:

This is what his wife and daughter said, and nothing is mentioned about having a known heart problem.

Our family sat together this morning with the Medical Examiner – Coroner’s office and we were informed of their final analysis that Tom Petty passed away due to an accidental drug overdose as a result of taking a variety of medications.

Unfortunately Tom’s body suffered from many serious ailments including emphysema, knee problems and most significantly a fractured hip.

Despite this painful injury he insisted on keeping his commitment to his fans and he toured for 53 dates with a fractured hip and, as he did, it worsened to a more serious injury.

On the day he died he was informed his hip had graduated to a full on break and it is our feeling that the pain was simply unbearable and was the cause for his over use of medication.

We knew before the report was shared with us that he was prescribed various pain medications for a multitude of issues including Fentanyl patches and we feel confident that this was, as the coroner found, an unfortunate accident.

As a family we recognize this report may spark a further discussion on the opioid crisis and we feel that it is a healthy and necessary discussion and we hope in some way this report can save lives. Many people who overdose begin with a legitimate injury or simply do not understand the potency and deadly nature of these medications.

On a positive note we now know for certain he went painlessly and beautifully exhausted after doing what he loved the most, for one last time, performing live with his unmatchable rock band for his loyal fans on the biggest tour of his 40 plus year career. He was extremely proud of that achievement in the days before he passed.

We continue to mourn with you and marvel at Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers' incredible positive impact on music and the world. And we thank you all for your love and support over the last months.

Thank you also for respecting the memory of a man who was truly great during his time on this planet both publicly and privately.

We would be grateful if you could respect the privacy of the entire Heartbreaker family during this difficult time.

Dana Petty and Adria Petty

https://www.billboard.com...l-overdose

Menes said:

laurarichardson said:

Menes said: —It is unethical to put personal post out into the public. A few of us have seen these post and I asked a few people I correspond with had they heard about an illnesss. 2 said pancreatic cancer and one just said cancer. All it means is that the same rumor is going around and it is going from family members. I also think people need to understand that if he had terminal cancer there was not going to be any treatment.

Unethical? Come on now, LR. Did you get the "post" directly from the source ( the family member) who instructed you not to post it anywhere else or did you get it in a facebook group? I'm not knocking how you got it, but it being "unethical " to post a rumor is a bit of a stretch, isn't it?

No, I do not have their permission so I am not going to do it. It is unethical to me and my beliefs.

Maybe Prince just hit the level of fuck it?

funksterr said:

Menes said:

All good points.

1. Let's say that Tyka knew he had cancer and was self-medicating in secrecy to deal with the pain... This could explain why she was not at all surprised when death came. She had to have known that it would come either by him succumbing to the illness, or, as I have said a million times before ,he would eventually end it himself. Her reaction would therefore not be unusual when you think of what she had to have known . I gather from that type of reaction, that she had prior knowledge of his usage and the risk that comes with it as in: (possible overdose). For her, it was probably more of a relief that he went out quickly and ended the suffering once and for all. She had at least (3) years to deal with knowing.

2. As to Prince going thru withdrawals... As both Rebeljuice and yourself have pointed out, there were too many signs that he was trying to quit cold turkey. This had to have been the worst thing he could have done to himself. If he had cancer, but wanted to get a handle on his addiction, the better strategy would have been to adjust the dosage(s) or change the type of medication prescribed. It's such a common thing to do that it baffles the mind that one would intentionally ignore such a common practice, or , convince yourself that none of those options would have made a difference. There is just no evidence that Prince's cognitive skills were so diminished that he could not think about that. This is why I believe that this is so intentional. Intentional as in, there is nothing else I can really do.

3. I believe as Rebel Juice stated(paraphrasing here) that he could not take anymore of the withdrawals and with reckless abandon, shoveled a number of things down. This is that "whatever happens , happens" moment.

4. There is a saying about "picking your own death". I think Prince picked his death. He had options to deal with things so differently but he chose a different path, intentionally. It's like the guy who crosses five lanes of the highway around rush hour with headphones and blinders on.

5. I just think that the people who claim he was suffering from any type of cancer should examine what is so bad about him dying in the way that he did as opposed to that long term suffering and withering away @ Paisley Park if he did in fact had cancer.

Sounds like Prince to me.

he never exhibited "recklessness" to me. calculated abandon, yes, reckless i don't see it.

i can't see a guy who desperatly cared to keep his business private, would all of sudden say to heck

with it i gonna go out like this and let them find me in an elevator. Ummm no. now i am not

saying he couldn't have desired suicide for some reason, but if he did that i am thinking he would

have laid a more beautiful scene. No, i think he would have been in bed, gotten rid of all the other pills, had his favorite song on repeat. all things precious near his side. Prince wasn't that scared of things to leave like that. IMO

disch said:

Here is Tom Petty's official autopsy summary report, from the LA coroner:

http://mec.lacounty.gov/w...2017-07259

-

Under Other Significant Causes, it says:

CORONARY ARTERY ATHEROSCLEROSIS, EMPHYSEMA

-

These are listed even though they did not cause his immediate death (that was organ failure and cardiac arrest caused by multiple drug toxicity) and even though they weren't even imminently terminal in and of themselves. Yet in Prince's case, the Other Significant Causes list "none applicable," even though some people here think he was in the final stage of terminal cancer. I think that end-stage terminal cancer would have been listed on Prince's short form, especially if it was a main reason he was taking opioids in the first place.

-

PennyPurple said:

This is what his wife and daughter said, and nothing is mentioned about having a known heart problem.

Our family sat together this morning with the Medical Examiner – Coroner’s office and we were informed of their final analysis that Tom Petty passed away due to an accidental drug overdose as a result of taking a variety of medications.

Unfortunately Tom’s body suffered from many serious ailments including emphysema, knee problems and most significantly a fractured hip.

Despite this painful injury he insisted on keeping his commitment to his fans and he toured for 53 dates with a fractured hip and, as he did, it worsened to a more serious injury.

On the day he died he was informed his hip had graduated to a full on break and it is our feeling that the pain was simply unbearable and was the cause for his over use of medication.

We knew before the report was shared with us that he was prescribed various pain medications for a multitude of issues including Fentanyl patches and we feel confident that this was, as the coroner found, an unfortunate accident.

As a family we recognize this report may spark a further discussion on the opioid crisis and we feel that it is a healthy and necessary discussion and we hope in some way this report can save lives. Many people who overdose begin with a legitimate injury or simply do not understand the potency and deadly nature of these medications.

On a positive note we now know for certain he went painlessly and beautifully exhausted after doing what he loved the most, for one last time, performing live with his unmatchable rock band for his loyal fans on the biggest tour of his 40 plus year career. He was extremely proud of that achievement in the days before he passed.

We continue to mourn with you and marvel at Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers' incredible positive impact on music and the world. And we thank you all for your love and support over the last months.

Thank you also for respecting the memory of a man who was truly great during his time on this planet both publicly and privately.

We would be grateful if you could respect the privacy of the entire Heartbreaker family during this difficult time.

Dana Petty and Adria Petty

https://www.billboard.com...l-overdose

thx for posting the report

Mumio said:

laurarichardson said:

cloveringold85 said: In L.A the ME report is public so they have to be transparent. His wife said he had cardiac problems so he may not have been getting any surgery.

laura, we may need to start a new thread elsewhere. Why was Tom Petty taking Acetyl Fentanyl, which is a designer drug and not a prescription drug? This info is right on the autopsy report and it shows he was also using Fentanyl and despropionyl fentanyl. So he had legal access, so why the illegal drug then?

http://mec.lacounty.gov/w...2017-07259



Edited to add: I have copied this post to the Tom Petty post here http://www.prince.org/msg/8/451345?pg=2

[Edited 1/23/18 7:48am]

interesting

Menes said:

laurarichardson said:

Menes said: —It is unethical to put personal post out into the public. A few of us have seen these post and I asked a few people I correspond with had they heard about an illnesss. 2 said pancreatic cancer and one just said cancer. All it means is that the same rumor is going around and it is going from family members. I also think people need to understand that if he had terminal cancer there was not going to be any treatment.

Unethical? Come on now, LR. Did you get the "post" directly from the source ( the family member) who instructed you not to post it anywhere else or did you get it in a facebook group? I'm not knocking how you got it, but it being "unethical " to post a rumor is a bit of a stretch, isn't it?

she told us the rumor, wanting to know or see the post that was correspondance between

a closed group is not good practice.

rogifan said:

Here’s the truth: None of us know the truth but we all have our own theories which in our mind have to be the truth. Of course everyone’s “I think” isn’t fact it’s guesses and assumptions.

yes^^^^^^

laurarichardson said:

Menes said:

Unethical? Come on now, LR. Did you get the "post" directly from the source ( the family member) who instructed you not to post it anywhere else or did you get it in a facebook group? I'm not knocking how you got it, but it being "unethical " to post a rumor is a bit of a stretch, isn't it?

No, I do not have their permission so I am not going to do it. It is unethical to me and my beliefs.

respected.

purplefam99 said:

Menes said:

Unethical? Come on now, LR. Did you get the "post" directly from the source ( the family member) who instructed you not to post it anywhere else or did you get it in a facebook group? I'm not knocking how you got it, but it being "unethical " to post a rumor is a bit of a stretch, isn't it?

she told us the rumor, wanting to know or see the post that was correspondance between

a closed group is not good practice.

Well why even bring it up in a public forum if it was privately disclosed to you? She made it public so I have the right to ask . I wil ask her a thousand more times if I so desire.It's not your rumor to worry about ,now is it?

im still convinced he had terminal cancer

Menes said:

purplefam99 said:

she told us the rumor, wanting to know or see the post that was correspondance between

a closed group is not good practice.

Well why even bring it up in a public forum if it was privately disclosed to you? She made it public so I have the right to ask . I wil ask her a thousand more times if I so desire.It's not your rumor to worry about ,now is it?

I actually did not bring this up. I said he had terminal health issues. I am not the one that put that it was pancreatic cancer. People on this board keep carrying on and someone finally put the actual cancer out there.

So far no one has divulged the actual sources of this info and I doubt anyone will. I would just prepare yourself if and when Tyka does say something.

purplefam99 said:

disch said:

Here is Tom Petty's official autopsy summary report, from the LA coroner:

http://mec.lacounty.gov/w...2017-07259

-

Under Other Significant Causes, it says:

CORONARY ARTERY ATHEROSCLEROSIS, EMPHYSEMA

-

These are listed even though they did not cause his immediate death (that was organ failure and cardiac arrest caused by multiple drug toxicity) and even though they weren't even imminently terminal in and of themselves. Yet in Prince's case, the Other Significant Causes list "none applicable," even though some people here think he was in the final stage of terminal cancer. I think that end-stage terminal cancer would have been listed on Prince's short form, especially if it was a main reason he was taking opioids in the first place.

-

thx for posting the report

I doubt Tom was going to make it through any surgery.

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laurarichardson said:

Menes said:

Well why even bring it up in a public forum if it was privately disclosed to you? She made it public so I have the right to ask . I wil ask her a thousand more times if I so desire.It's not your rumor to worry about ,now is it?

I actually did not bring this up. I said he had terminal health issues. I am not the one that put that it was pancreatic cancer. People on this board keep carrying on and someone finally put the actual cancer out there.

So far no one has divulged the actual sources of this info and I doubt anyone will. I would just prepare yourself if and when Tyka does say something.

All I am saying is that most of us who wish to make a point usually will put forth a reason for stating "x', and will provide some sort of link ,site, or verifiable source to support whatever it is we believe. This "rumor" provides us with nothing to look at other than a statement.

It would be no different than someone barging in here and stating that he/she has concrete evidence Prince had AIDS . Why would that person reveal that on a PUBLIC FORUM if it was not based on anything we could verify or at least research publicly? I'm pretty sure you would want more proof if such a serious claim was made. I'm not blaming you for the rumor that was placed in here, but It seems as though you support it. Am I wrong?

Menes said:

laurarichardson said:

I actually did not bring this up. I said he had terminal health issues. I am not the one that put that it was pancreatic cancer. People on this board keep carrying on and someone finally put the actual cancer out there.

So far no one has divulged the actual sources of this info and I doubt anyone will. I would just prepare yourself if and when Tyka does say something.

All I am saying is that most of us who wish to make a point usually will put forth a reason for stating "x', and will provide some sort of link ,site, or verifiable source to support whatever it is we believe. This "rumor" provides us with nothing to look at other than a statement.

It would be no different than someone barging in here and stating that he/she has concrete evidence Prince had AIDS . Why would that person reveal that on a PUBLIC FORUM if it was not based on anything we could verify or at least research publicly? I'm pretty sure you would want more proof if such a serious claim was made. I'm not blaming you for the rumor that was placed in here, but It seems as though you support it. Am I wrong?

I put forth my reason for stating it. I even followed up on it a bit. I told you why I did not provide a link but you have other people who have posted about the same thing. Some of those people contacted me before I contacted them so we all have seen the same post. We do not have ESP. We have more then one person on the board saying these things.

Cancer is not the same has saying someone has AIDS. I support the rumor based on the post that I saw. So yes I support the rumor until we hear otherwise.

laurarichardson said:

Menes said:

All I am saying is that most of us who wish to make a point usually will put forth a reason for stating "x', and will provide some sort of link ,site, or verifiable source to support whatever it is we believe. This "rumor" provides us with nothing to look at other than a statement.

It would be no different than someone barging in here and stating that he/she has concrete evidence Prince had AIDS . Why would that person reveal that on a PUBLIC FORUM if it was not based on anything we could verify or at least research publicly? I'm pretty sure you would want more proof if such a serious claim was made. I'm not blaming you for the rumor that was placed in here, but It seems as though you support it. Am I wrong?

I put forth my reason for stating it. I even followed up on it a bit. I told you why I did not provide a link but you have other people who have posted about the same thing. Some of those people contacted me before I contacted them so we all have seen the same post. We do not have ESP. We have more then one person on the board saying these things.

Cancer is not the same has saying someone has AIDS. I support the rumor based on the post that I saw. So yes I support the rumor until we hear otherwise.

Fair enough. I can understand that. I am assuming that you would be ok if there is evidence to contradict said rumor , no?

BTW, do you believe that there is more evidence to support organ damage or cancer?

I'm still confused why cancer would be treated like a deep, dark secret that only those privy to the deepest depths of the internet could know about. There's no particular social stigma around most cancers such as pancreatic (unlike say opioid addiction, which does have a social stigma). And what would typically upset people about a cancer diagnosis -- the thought of someone suffering and dying -- is a moot point here because Prince is already dead.

-

So frankly, this all seems a little silly.

Menes said:

laurarichardson said:

I put forth my reason for stating it. I even followed up on it a bit. I told you why I did not provide a link but you have other people who have posted about the same thing. Some of those people contacted me before I contacted them so we all have seen the same post. We do not have ESP. We have more then one person on the board saying these things.

Cancer is not the same has saying someone has AIDS. I support the rumor based on the post that I saw. So yes I support the rumor until we hear otherwise.

Fair enough. I can understand that. I am assuming that you would be ok if there is evidence to contradict said rumor , no?

BTW, do you believe that there is more evidence to support organ damage or cancer?

I agree with the bolded

disch said:

I'm still confused why cancer would be treated like a deep, dark secret that only those privy to the deepest depths of the internet could know about. There's no particular social stigma around most cancers such as pancreatic (unlike say opioid addiction, which does have a social stigma). And what would typically upset people about a cancer diagnosis -- the thought of someone suffering and dying -- is a moot point here because Prince is already dead.

-

So frankly, this all seems a little silly.

Menes said:

Fair enough. I can understand that. I am assuming that you would be ok if there is evidence to contradict said rumor , no?

BTW, do you believe that there is more evidence to support organ damage or cancer?

disch said:

I'm still confused why cancer would be treated like a deep, dark secret that only those privy to the deepest depths of the internet could know about. There's no particular social stigma around most cancers such as pancreatic (unlike say opioid addiction, which does have a social stigma). And what would typically upset people about a cancer diagnosis -- the thought of someone suffering and dying -- is a moot point here because Prince is already dead.

-

So frankly, this all seems a little silly.

Menes said:

Fair enough. I can understand that. I am assuming that you would be ok if there is evidence to contradict said rumor , no?

BTW, do you believe that there is more evidence to support organ damage or cancer?

Brilliantly stated, Thanks!

Menes said:

purplefam99 said:

she told us the rumor, wanting to know or see the post that was correspondance between

a closed group is not good practice.

Well why even bring it up in a public forum if it was privately disclosed to you? She made it public so I have the right to ask . I wil ask her a thousand more times if I so desire.It's not your rumor to worry about ,now is it?

no it isn't, but since you brought up sharing the info on a "public forum" i thought i was free to

comment on your comment like your commenting on the rumor.

laurarichardson said:

Menes said:

Well why even bring it up in a public forum if it was privately disclosed to you? She made it public so I have the right to ask . I wil ask her a thousand more times if I so desire.It's not your rumor to worry about ,now is it?

I actually did not bring this up. I said he had terminal health issues. I am not the one that put that it was pancreatic cancer. People on this board keep carrying on and someone finally put the actual cancer out there.

So far no one has divulged the actual sources of this info and I doubt anyone will. I would just prepare yourself if and when Tyka does say something.

correct, it was Strawberry

disch said:

I'm still confused why cancer would be treated like a deep, dark secret that only those privy to the deepest depths of the internet could know about. There's no particular social stigma around most cancers such as pancreatic (unlike say opioid addiction, which does have a social stigma). And what would typically upset people about a cancer diagnosis -- the thought of someone suffering and dying -- is a moot point here because Prince is already dead.

-

So frankly, this all seems a little silly.

Menes said:

Fair enough. I can understand that. I am assuming that you would be ok if there is evidence to contradict said rumor , no?

BTW, do you believe that there is more evidence to support organ damage or cancer?

And we do know that he died of an OD, so if that is the truth, and they family isn't trying to deny that

truth. then what are we looking for? Our own different truth? seems like they could be sitting

in their homes looking at us like we are crazy. i don't think the family thinks cancer is shame filled

i think they think it is not our business. and we know cause of death. so your so correct about the bolded.

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