TheDigitalGardener said:

sulls said:

NAMOR3000 said:

Some of us don't know where 2 look online 4 the free downloads. And many "fams" don't wanna share where 2 find them. So people buy boots. Get over it!!!

Again, is this 2004? How can anyone in 2017 possibly not know where to find free music? That you may not find one particular release or that you can't find it immediately after it's out, OK, but that you don't know where to find them in general?

And everytime I've orgnoted someone on the Org to ask where to find the latest release, they've helped. IDK whom you've asked but either they were really busy or really mean

databank said:

sulls said:

Safe deposit box at a bank...

Are you telling me that you have 2 copies of each CD, and that you put one in a rented box at the bank? C'mon, no way

I actually have one back-up drive at home (see the article I've posted right above for what a back-up is) that I update more or less monthly, and another one that I update every year or so at a friend's home, just in case my house burned or was robbed.

It requires a bit of work, but it's much less work and much less money spent than buying each CD twice and taking one copy to the bank, and in the very worst case I lose only the most recent files

I could also use a cloud but with 4TB's of data (music, films and series altogether) it's a bit above my budget for the moment, but it's likely I'll end-up doing that on the long run.

My Cloud by Western Digital.

sulls said:

databank said:

Are you telling me that you have 2 copies of each CD, and that you put one in a rented box at the bank? C'mon, no way

I actually have one back-up drive at home (see the article I've posted right above for what a back-up is) that I update more or less monthly, and another one that I update every year or so at a friend's home, just in case my house burned or was robbed.

It requires a bit of work, but it's much less work and much less money spent than buying each CD twice and taking one copy to the bank, and in the very worst case I lose only the most recent files

I could also use a cloud but with 4TB's of data (music, films and series altogether) it's a bit above my budget for the moment, but it's likely I'll end-up doing that on the long run.

The bank box was just for the sake of argument. Your have a digital copy on your hard drive but also keep a physical copy offsite. If one prefers to have the physical copy and keep it under lock and key, it doesn’t seem too out there a scenario. Protect your investment.

For the sake of argument OK, except no one does that. I've never met anyone who had 2 copies of their records and kept one in a vault somewhere. So yes, theorically. But in the real world the bottom line is that digital copies are safer than physical copies, because those are the ones you can duplicate and move off site as you see fit.

databank said:

NAMOR3000 said:

Some of us don't know where 2 look online 4 the free downloads. And many "fams" don't wanna share where 2 find them. So people buy boots. Get over it!!!

Again, is this 2004? How can anyone in 2017 possibly not know where to find free music? That you may not find one particular release or that you can't find it immediately after it's out, OK, but that you don't know where to find them in general?

And everytime I've orgnoted someone on the Org to ask where to find the latest release, they've helped. IDK whom you've asked but either they were really busy or really mean

I agree with Namor...Some people, again, some people (not all) act like your an idiot for even asking them and an even bigger idiot for not knowing where to go/look. Like it's their little club and you were not invited

For instance a certain "Release" was mentioned a week or two ago and quite a few "orgers" were discussing how they had downloaded, listened and were comparing "its" sound quality to a certain "pressed" release that coincided with it, to supposedly "beat the bootleg pressed release"

I personally would have loved to join in on that discussion and comparision, but, alas not a very friendly response, 100% negative actually

LonelyStarfish said:

I will continue to buy boots if i like the packaging & the sound quality is good..

sulls said:

I prefer a 'professionally' pressed / packaged physical product. I don't know the costs of producing such a thing, but if selling mitigates the costs, I can understand that.

Some of these releases are pretty incredible looking. I really like the art on some of them. I prefer a physical CD in hand personally, always have. I always make a copy or two so I don't have to worry about scratches, besides the digital copies I keep.

DirtyCache said:

what is IMNSHO far worst are the ones that make FAKES and sell them at a yuge price... Like "The Slaughterhouse" or "The Chocolate Invasion" as RARE! No, they are just fakes.


a set like a BFTP 5.0 at least you know what you are getting...

OnlyNDaUsa said:

what is IMNSHO far worst are the ones that make FAKES and sell them at a yuge price... Like "The Slaughterhouse" or "The Chocolate Invasion" as RARE! No, they are just fakes.


a set like a BFTP 5.0 at least you know what you are getting...

Technically they're not "fake", they're bootlegs too. A fake would be a pirate copy of an existing physical product: for example a fake original Black Album or a fake Vanity 6 or ONA or Madhouse 8.

TS and TCI have never been released physically, which is something you'd assume anyone who knows enough about Prince to know of those pretty confidential albums would know. Now of course if they are being advertized as "rare official CD's" it's a scam, but if they're just "rare", well, I guess 1500 copies of a BFTP makes it rare pretty quickly as well. Most of our old boots from the early 90's are probably pretty rare nowadays.

I've been buying boots since the 80's. My first one was "Regent of 1st Avenue" on vinyl. The next one I got was "The black album" on cassette. I have 100's of bootlegs on CD from the 90's and will still buy them today.

maybe if web sheriff didnt pull free downloads ...less bootlegs would get sold

databank said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

what is IMNSHO far worst are the ones that make FAKES and sell them at a yuge price... Like "The Slaughterhouse" or "The Chocolate Invasion" as RARE! No, they are just fakes.


a set like a BFTP 5.0 at least you know what you are getting...

Technically they're not "fake", they're bootlegs too. A fake would be a pirate copy of an existing physical product: for example a fake original Black Album or a fake Vanity 6 or ONA or Madhouse 8.

TS and TCI have never been released physically, which is something you'd assume anyone who knows enough about Prince to know of those pretty confidential albums would know. Now of course if they are being advertized as "rare official CD's" it's a scam, but if they're just "rare", well, I guess 1500 copies of a BFTP makes it rare pretty quickly as well. Most of our old boots from the early 90's are probably pretty rare nowadays.

it is a bootleg but it is sold as if it was not. that is why i called it a fake... there are also counterfeit of things like One Night Alone Paino and the Black Album that are sold as if they are official but are not. (as well as some of the associated acts)


But it is just semantics...

djdaffy1227 said:

I've been buying boots since the 80's. My first one was "Regent of 1st Avenue" on vinyl. The next one I got was "The black album" on cassette. I have 100's of bootlegs on CD from the 90's and will still buy them today.

I still have Regent Of 1st Avenue, as well as several upgrades that have that have made it obsolete. I'll keep it though since it's not worth much $ and I cherish the nostalgia.

NAMOR3000 said:

Some of us don't know where 2 look online 4 the free downloads. And many "fams" don't wanna share where 2 find them. So people buy boots. Get over it!!!

That's how I feel. i bought several back in the day before p2p got big just to HAVE something. Agreed...not everyone has connections and been around for several years. Some people are only looking for one or two concerts in particular...and they using their hard earned money the way they want to...just like when I bought "Parade Around The World 3 Disc" Parade Tour set for $25.00. Best $25.00 spent that year! LOL. Hell, Prince wasnt putting it out might as well.

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