OldFriends4Sale said:

PeteSilas said:

even in the mid 80's? I thought his dancing was pretty damned good by then and a long ways away from his bandstand/dirty mind dancing which was pretty bad.

This is the Prince I love, he still danced like this though, inbetween the other dancing.

I liked this Prince

I cannot believe how many splits he was doing. I cannot post any of those right now.

i thought his dancing was great, of course i can see a difference between him and a pro dancer but let's see that pro dancer play a million instruments and sing too.

there was a choreographer for the Kiss video too

@ those who think Prince didn't have lessons or a choreographer. Of course, he did.

PeteSilas said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

This is the Prince I love, he still danced like this though, inbetween the other dancing.

I liked this Prince

I cannot believe how many splits he was doing. I cannot post any of those right now.

i thought his dancing was great, of course i can see a difference between him and a pro dancer but let's see that pro dancer play a million instruments and sing too.

I prefer raw Prince dancing anyday. He was and always will be a musician first. And Ax man and a Pianist extraordinaire .

OldFriends4Sale said:

ufoclub said:

If I saw someone else at a regular club dancing like Prince was during "Irresistible Bitch" or "I Would Die 4 U" on the Purple Rain tour... really... anyone other than Prince.

the lady who said Litte Red Corvette was inspired by her, recalled when she first danced with Prince at a club and she said it reminded her of him dancing on American Band Stand

I so loved those early Prince days

I can't believe some of the comments that suggest Prince wasnt a great dancer (or even, 'comical'). 1999/Purple Rain onwards, he was fucking *phenonemal* dancer, among the very best in the world. Its a toss up between him and Michael Jackson as to who was the greatest dancer in pop music EVER.

JohnCragg said:

I can't believe some of the comments that suggest Prince wasnt a great dancer (or even, 'comical'). 1999/Purple Rain onwards, he was fucking *phenonemal* dancer, among the very best in the world. Its a toss up between him and Michael Jackson as to who was the greatest dancer in pop music EVER.

James Brown just rolled over in his grave laughing and MC Hammer just almost fell off his Sea-Doo.


There's a bit more competition than just Prince and MJ for that title. James Brown and MC Hammer immediately spring to mind. Both of them have (had) some of the most natural, fluid dance moves in history and are (were) extremely creative and gifted dancers. Certainly riveling both MJ and Prince. Unless you aren't counting James Brown or MC Hammer as pop[ular] music.

pdiddy2011 said:

JohnCragg said:

I can't believe some of the comments that suggest Prince wasnt a great dancer (or even, 'comical'). 1999/Purple Rain onwards, he was fucking *phenonemal* dancer, among the very best in the world. Its a toss up between him and Michael Jackson as to who was the greatest dancer in pop music EVER.

James Brown just rolled over in his grave laughing and MC Hammer just almost fell off his Sea-Doo.


There's a bit more competition than just Prince and MJ for that title. James Brown and MC Hammer immediately spring to mind. Both of them have (had) some of the most natural, fluid dance moves in history and are (were) extremely creative and gifted dancers. Certainly riveling both MJ and Prince. Unless you aren't counting James Brown or MC Hammer as pop[ular] music.

for real...even Bobby Brown, Ronnie DeVoe, & Ralph Tresvant from New Edition...

RJOrion said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

there was a choreographer for the Kiss video too

GAMV: Well, that’s great. Now, when he called you, and asked you about directing this video, had you gotten a chance to listen to the song and kind of come up with a concept?

Rebecca Blake: Yeah. Well, they sent me the music track and then I wrote a concept and I went out to LA and actually had a very excellent production and I was very into design and so I designed the set and everything kind of followed from there. What was fascinating was how once the stage was put together, how brilliantly he move around in the space of the set for the film. Like, I would set-up a shot and then he would kind of interpret it in terms of how he moved physically. And that was very interesting.

GAMV: So how much of the choreography was a choreographer, and how much was him, or was it both?

Rebecca Blake: It really melded. The choreographer worked with the dancer who I brought in, in the ‘Kiss’ video who is dressed in this black veil. And the choreographer worked with her very closely and worked with him indirectly because he would never have direct contact with the choreographer. He would only speak to me, so I would have to relay what the choreographer suggested. And I think he would sort of go off and practice on his own. And frankly, when he showed up and did the moves that he did, they were pretty amazing. Truly.

GAMV: Yeah, it’s really an amazing clip. And one of the things that I noticed in it is that it also reflects the minimalism of the song. I mean, it’s a big set but there’s not a lot going on.

Rebecca Blake: No. Exactly. I was very determined that it not looked like a music video, whatever that meant at the time, and that it would just sort of have this very pared-down discipline. And because I had a lot of theatrical lighting and I also use that conceptually, I didn’t try to flood the frame with a million lights and things like that. I did it in a kind of very minimal way, purposely.

http://goldenageofmusicvideo.com/prince-music-video-director-recalls-kiss-cream-and-diamonds-and-pearls-shoots-he-loved-improvising/

http://prince.org/msg/7/444336

Monique Mannen [Dancer from the 1986 Kiss video by Prince & the Revolution

How were you cast?

I auditioned for it and was taped on callback so that Prince could choose from tape. Turns out the choreographer was the great, late Louis Falco. I had a scholarship with him in NYC but I only worked with him shortly because I got Chorus Line. I trained my butt off but got comfortable in L.A. and wouldn’t train much because I was working a lot. After the audition, the first thing Louis said to me—with love—was “What happened to you?” I wasn’t dancing on the caliber that he remembered. That was a rude awakening for me.

Seahorsie said:

Some innate talent, a choreographer, and maturity, to be sure. Like fine wine, it just got better and better with time.

AMEN!

pdiddy2011 said:

JohnCragg said:

I can't believe some of the comments that suggest Prince wasnt a great dancer (or even, 'comical'). 1999/Purple Rain onwards, he was fucking *phenonemal* dancer, among the very best in the world. Its a toss up between him and Michael Jackson as to who was the greatest dancer in pop music EVER.

James Brown just rolled over in his grave laughing and MC Hammer just almost fell off his Sea-Doo.


There's a bit more competition than just Prince and MJ for that title. James Brown and MC Hammer immediately spring to mind. Both of them have (had) some of the most natural, fluid dance moves in history and are (were) extremely creative and gifted dancers. Certainly riveling both MJ and Prince. Unless you aren't counting James Brown or MC Hammer as pop[ular] music.

pdiddy2011, when i saw MC Hammer in concert i nearly cried i loved all that dancing so much.

i didn't sit down the whole show. "from London to LA"!!!!!!

paulludvig said:

I don't think he had a choreographer for his solo moves, but when he danced in sync with others, that was choreographed.

yes.

OldFriends4Sale said:

Get It Now!

JohnCragg said:

RJOrion said:

for real...even Bobby Brown, Ronnie DeVoe, & Ralph Tresvant from New Edition...

(Shrugs) I’ve watched many, many hours of those artists you both mentioned, and none are as good as Prince or Michael Jackson - even the original master JB. And Bobby Brown?? Seriously? LOL. Nowhere near

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but in regards to MC Hammer please don't judge him by "u can't touch this" or "Addams family". Look at more of his "street" videos/performances (read: urban). Just an FYI in case you hadn't.

Like this, for instance...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl-qc_E3BI0

MC Hammer 🔥 ((Live)) [The 25th Anniversary Soul Train Hall Of Fame Special]

(Youtube)

[Edited 12/20/17 15:25pm]

Astasheiks said:

RJOrion said:

Astasheiks said:

Get It Now!

he looks insane right there...if you were at a club and were on the dance floor and someone started doing that, everyone would grab their coats and purses and run out while in a crouched position.

RJOrion said:

pdiddy2011 said:

JohnCragg said:

RJOrion said:

for real...even Bobby Brown, Ronnie DeVoe, & Ralph Tresvant from New Edition...

(Shrugs) I’ve watched many, many hours of those artists you both mentioned, and none are as good as Prince or Michael Jackson - even the original master JB. And Bobby Brown?? Seriously? LOL. Nowhere near

James Brown is a way better dancer than MJ and Prince put together. All of MJ's moves are either lifted from or inspired by JB. And as good as MJ was, he couldn't move his feet as fast or string together his moves improptu like JB did every single night.

masaba said:

JohnCragg said:

RJOrion said: (Shrugs) I’ve watched many, many hours of those artists you both mentioned, and none are as good as Prince or Michael Jackson - even the original master JB. And Bobby Brown?? Seriously? LOL. Nowhere near

James Brown is a way better dancer than MJ and Prince put together. All of MJ's moves are either lifted from or inspired by JB. And as good as MJ was, he couldn't move his feet as fast or string together his moves improptu like JB did every single night.

you'll get no argument from me, james was bad, he not only was the more original but the better dancer of them. MJ wasn't nearly as athletic or physical but Prince could come close in that dept.

RJOrion said:

Astasheiks said:

Get It Now!

he looks insane right there...if you were at a club and were on the dance floor and someone started doing that, everyone would grab their coats and purses and run out while in a crouched position.

what made him keep doing that shit? knowing it was hurting him? I have to think pride and stubborness. that's pretty late in the game too and he's still dancing, his later dancing, some of it, takes on the air of an exhausted man who's not even enjoying dance anymore.

hammer might have been a joke in the 90's but dude could dance. they say he was a pretty good mc at one point too but knowing nothing about mc'ing and little about hip hop I wouldn't know. i always liked the man though and enjoyed his interviews.

pdiddy2011 said:

JohnCragg said:

RJOrion said: (Shrugs) I’ve watched many, many hours of those artists you both mentioned, and none are as good as Prince or Michael Jackson - even the original master JB. And Bobby Brown?? Seriously? LOL. Nowhere near

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but in regards to MC Hammer please don't judge him by "u can't touch this" or "Addams family". Look at more of his "street" videos/performances (read: urban). Just an FYI in case you hadn't.

Like this, for instance...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl-qc_E3BI0

MC Hammer 🔥 ((Live)) [The 25th Anniversary Soul Train Hall Of Fame Special]

(Youtube)

[Edited 12/20/17 15:25pm]

OldFriends4Sale said:

leadline said:

Prince choreographed his own stuff, came up with his own dance moves. This has been in print more than once over the years. Honestly not really that hard to believe right?

That's only partially true.

Cat choreographed much of the SOTT/Lovesexy dances. The Housequake dance was Cat.

BrownMark with Prince choreographed some of the moves for the Purple Rain and Parade tours.

along with Jerome for the Parade tours.

The GameBoyz choreographed a lot of the steps for the Nude tour

The 'basic' dance stuff that Prince did was all Prince, which is that everyday dancing people do. And we see him do it throught his career.

PeteSilas said:

pdiddy2011 said:

masaba said: