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Thread started 11/07/17 10:11am

TrivialPursuit

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Audio: Prince's keyboard part on "Stand Back", isolated

Anil Dash has posted a video on his Twitter that isolates Prince's keyboard parts on Stevie Nicks' "Stand Back". I always thought he just did the middle section on that clip, but he did the main synth hook, too. The video is just over 2-minutes long.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #1 posted 11/07/17 11:47am

OldFriends4Sal
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yes

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Reply #2 posted 11/07/17 12:03pm

paulludvig

Prince deserves a co-writing credit for that.

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #3 posted 11/07/17 2:57pm

laytonian

paulludvig said:

Prince deserves a co-writing credit for that.

.He DOES have a co-writing credit; he got 50% of the proceeds from that song.

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Reply #4 posted 11/07/17 3:31pm

soladeo1

Both songs have that sensuous, breathing synth
sound...totally fantastic.

Love those vintage Oberheim keyboards...
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Reply #5 posted 11/07/17 3:59pm

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Yes!
Sheer perfection, of COURSE. 💜💜
Good find; thanks.
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Reply #6 posted 11/07/17 4:03pm

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He tried to walk away with no credits, Stevie was not having any of that.

So cool to hear this. Thank you!

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Reply #7 posted 11/07/17 4:53pm

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I remember reading he did this in ONE TAKE as well.

"You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013
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Reply #8 posted 11/07/17 5:02pm

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Been waiting a long time to hear this isolated. Great stuff.

"You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013
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Reply #9 posted 11/07/17 5:43pm

LovePaisley

That was great, thank you! I went straight to Stand Back to see if I could hear that flubbed key press, but you really can't tell. Studio magic, I guess.
And the MUSIC continues...forever...
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Reply #10 posted 11/07/17 7:54pm

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paulludvig said:

Prince deserves a co-writing credit for that.


Ask Warner Brothers why he wasn't. She had to keep his name off of it because of the record company. He didn't have to have one, really. She just felt so strongly about his part that she felt he deserved it, but the song was written by the time he popped into the studio. Hell, he didn't get the guitar credits on Madonna's album either, and they were label mates.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #11 posted 11/08/17 12:34am

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TrivialPursuit said:

Anil Dash has posted a video on his Twitter that isolates Prince's keyboard parts on Stevie Nicks' "Stand Back". I always thought he just did the middle section on that clip, but he did the main synth hook, too. The video is just over 2-minutes long.


All the complete individual tracks of the song have been posted online some years ago for download.

When put in Audacity or other sound/track editors you could switch on or off any of the tracks on the fly and just isolate the drums, percussion, vocals, guitars, synths etc. or mix them up which is really cool.

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Reply #12 posted 11/08/17 1:01am

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JorisE73 said:

When put in Audacity or other sound/track editors you could switch on or off any of the tracks on the fly and just isolate the drums, percussion, vocals, guitars, synths etc. or mix them up which is really cool.


Why didn't I think of that?! Thanks for the tip, JorisE73 biggrin


EG

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Reply #13 posted 11/08/17 1:01am

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TrivialPursuit said:

paulludvig said:

Prince deserves a co-writing credit for that.


Ask Warner Brothers why he wasn't. She had to keep his name off of it because of the record company. He didn't have to have one, really. She just felt so strongly about his part that she felt he deserved it, but the song was written by the time he popped into the studio. Hell, he didn't get the guitar credits on Madonna's album either, and they were label mates.

1/ As stated above, Prince did receive a co-writing credit for Stand Back, the only credit he didn't get was as an instrumentist, for the simple reason that he was under exclusive contract with WB (he could have asked WB to allow it, and WB would probably have complied, but he often wouldn't bother asking). Labels cannot interfere with writing credits, only actual recordings.

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2/ Prince not getting certain credits on Like A Prayer was, most likely, Prince's own wish. Prince liked to play hide and seek.

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Reply #14 posted 11/08/17 1:03am

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paisleypark4 said:

He tried to walk away with no credits, Stevie was not having any of that.

So cool to hear this. Thank you!

It's also that SB was, by Nicks' admission, inspired by LRC, and you can clearly hear it in the melody. Adding this + Prince's additional contributions made it fair and square for her to share the money.

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Reply #15 posted 11/08/17 1:16am

paulludvig

TrivialPursuit said:

paulludvig said:

Prince deserves a co-writing credit for that.


Ask Warner Brothers why he wasn't. She had to keep his name off of it because of the record company. He didn't have to have one, really. She just felt so strongly about his part that she felt he deserved it, but the song was written by the time he popped into the studio. Hell, he didn't get the guitar credits on Madonna's album either, and they were label mates.

Dr Fink got one for Dirty Mind...

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #16 posted 11/08/17 3:00am

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paulludvig said:

TrivialPursuit said:


Ask Warner Brothers why he wasn't. She had to keep his name off of it because of the record company. He didn't have to have one, really. She just felt so strongly about his part that she felt he deserved it, but the song was written by the time he popped into the studio. Hell, he didn't get the guitar credits on Madonna's album either, and they were label mates.

Dr Fink got one for Dirty Mind...

Guys, you are discussing a non-event. That's insane eek

It's like IDK, discussing "why wasn't Donald Trump elected president in 2016?". Well, he was.

Have we fell into an alternate reality without me knowing? eek

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Reply #17 posted 11/08/17 3:12am

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OK, wait, you guys had me doubting and I've just checked on the booklet and indeed Prince was not credited!! My bad.

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I got confused because while he wasn't credited, the songs' royalties were definitely shared, as proven by this ASCAP registration:

STAND BACK (Title Code: 490515592)
Writers:
NICKS STEPHANIE
PRINCE

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Given that Prince himself would later include the song on the Nude Tour program and his site's discographies, and that Princevault labels it as credited to both artists, I had totally forgotten that he had never received formal credit (though I probably had noticed it when I bought the album 25 years ago, given that I always read credits carefully back then).

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However, as a label cannot possibly interfere with an artist writing a song, the lack of credit is clearly something Prince must have asked for (as often, so he could see how the song was received if people didn't know he was involved).

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