Maybe this will help.
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no one can answer the question....why would Prince NEED to take illegal versions of his medication? | |
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morningsong said:
Thats been The burning question zince the discovery of this list...makes no sense especially since he is known as being extremely careful as to what he put into his body....im not buying the suicide theory. ..he had too much REAL faith when you have that you see every action you take or make as either hnouring or dis honoring God..He just would NOT ...so those illegal pills made their way into his house without his knowledge. And someone knows that very well...hence the ongoig investigation thats being kept ultra quiet..Accidental overdose ...not that he took too much...its that he took those freaking pulls at all! | |
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Thank you he did not need Andrew to bring anything to him he already had it.
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Your sarcasm is not needed and had nothing to do with the topic. You insert it because you cannot follow what is being discussed or you are a troll.
We are dealing with a person who cannot follow the narrative that has been put out by the powers that be. Let me explain it to you all knowing drug person.
1) The narrative is that Prince was an out of control drug addict. 2) Would a out of control drug addict be able to pop all sorts of pills in his mouth 24 hours a day and still function, travel, date, perform and otherwise appear fine to hundreds of people. Some of whom could use the money if they simply went to the tabs and talked about how high Prince was. 3) Prince was some kind of magical genie who found a way to avoid all detection. He was the smartest junkie on the earth. 4) Could a person who is sick and has been using a controlled dosage still function? 5) Could a person who needs to stop using this meds do to impaired organ function be forced to withdraw from these pills in a sudden and dramatic fashion? 6) Would a person with a terminal or worsening illness care about getting into a rehab when that rehab would not resolve their underlying health issues? 7) Would a person going to rehab tell musicians to get their stuff out of Paisley because they might not be able to get it later on. Do rehabs prevent you from returning to your home? 8) Do security cameras normally get removed from a building if the owner plans to continue to work in the building? 9) If I am going to rehab would I tell me sister I am dying two years before and send out task for my friends to perform? 10) Would a dozen associates say "We do not know the whole story" When of course now we know the whole story is about drugs.
Use what little you have going on in your head to following these points. Stop wasting time on this board with dumbass sarcasm which adds nothing to the conversation at all.
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Wonder where he would've got that at?
https://www.drugs.com/imp...10811.html
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1) There are many drug addicts who are not out of control. Some of them have opiates prescribed to them by doctors and they take those drugs every day.
But the rehab line is straw man argument anyway. Because we have no idea whether Prince really wanted it or not. It was arranged for him and we don't know if he was consensual. It has nothing to do with an underlying illness - if indeed he suffered from that. i) he could have had underlying illness and wanted rehab ii) he didn't have underlying illness and wanted rehab iii) he could have had underlying illness but didn't want rehab iv) he didn't have underlying illness but didn't want rehab The broader issue is, even with underlying illness, rehab would have helped opiate withdrawal discomfort. There's no point falsely conflating rehab with underlying illness. Proves nothing.
The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!
If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days... | |
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Suboxone is NOT oval which is what the warrant states. The above photo shows Suboxone as triangular.
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It's really unfortunate that Menes has abandoned the thread Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end | |
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----- 1) There are many drug addicts who are not out of control. Some of them have opiates prescribed to them by doctors and they take those drugs every day.
Live in a drug fantasy world if you will. Drug addicts are out of control because they are abusing drugs. People who are prescribed drugs are not drug addicts because they are not abusing them.
2) Prince wasn't popping all sorts of pills. He knew exactly what he was taking including the fentanyl he took on his last night. According to you and many others he was taking Percocet, Fentenyal, Hyrdrocone, Estacy and anything else who could get his hands on. According to the ME and the press he was not a long term user of Fentenyl yet you continue to insist that he was thus you must think he was an out of control pill head since you know better then the ME.
3) Most drug dealers and drug users never get caught. And Paisley Park was not set up so that any person could just walk in undetected. It was always high security.
WTF are you talking about? The United States has the highest population of incarated people in the world most are in prison for drug offenses so plenty get caught. Paisley Park did not have high security per the Carver County police logs going back to 2012 Prince had people treaspassing on the property all of the time. One of the security guys said he use to deliver pizza from Dominos and according to Prince's cousin the security cameras at Paisley Park were removed. Some top notch security.
4) Taking the drug would help Prince to not feel sick from not taking the drug - conversely enogh. That's how opiates work. And boy are the withdrawal symptoms bad apparently, which partly explains why it's the most addictive drug on earth. The controlled dosage was a manageable dose that would allow him to function pain free but without turning into a walking zombie.
No kidding. Stop carrying on as if you are the only person that knows these things. The contention from you and others is he was popping these things 24/7 so he would not have been sick from withdrawals but so high off his ass he would not have been able to record or perform but somehow he was able to do so. He would have been pain free but not able to work. You have a least a half dozen musicians who finished working with him in Januray who say he was fine and many thousand fans who saw him perform perfectly.
5) The narcan induced that very sudden and dramatic withdrawal. P wouldn't have liked it one bit. And neither would anyone else. If he had organ damage from taking pain pills in the first place (something they can happen even if you have an Rx) he would not have had a choice to withdraw. His liking it would not have been relevant.
6) He didn't have a terminal illness - there's no evidence for it. But Opiate withdrawal by itself is supposed to make someone feel deathly ill. But the rehab line is straw man argument anyway. Because we have no idea whether Prince really wanted it or not. It was arranged for him and we don't know if he was consensual. It has nothing to do with an underlying illness - if indeed he suffered from that. i) he could have had underlying illness and wanted rehab ii) he didn't have underlying illness and wanted rehab iii) he could have had underlying illness but didn't want rehab iv) he didn't have underlying illness but didn't want rehab The broader issue is, even with underlying illness, rehab would have helped opiate withdrawal discomfort. There's no point falsely conflating rehab with underlying illness. Proves nothing. His behavior of shutting down his operations, making amends with people, sending out the notes and blue prints of Paisley Park to associtates, leaving task to family and friends, working with WB, and giving Pheadra POA over his affairs.The plans to write an autobiography, the save your prayers remark, the sometimes autobiographical and sentimental anecdotes during the shows, the lack of a band and focus on just him and his piano (his first instrument when he was a kid) Pleny of out of character behavior from someone who did not let people in on much and who controlled his affairs.
7) The supposed telling musicians to get their stuff out of paisley park happened at least a week before, did it not? I don't believe P was intent on rehab at that point.
We have no idea what he did when he got back from Moline. The last 7 days of his life are a mystery with the exception of that party and going to the jazz club. We only know he made that call to those musicians after he got back from Moline.
We do not know what his intent was concerning rehab if Pheadra was the one who made the arrangements. I do not see someone going to rehab and telling people to get their stuff out because they might not be able to get it out later if they are going to be coming back home after rehab. Prince would have known what would happen without a will since he was the executor of his dad's estate and his dad did not have a will. Sorry this is just common sense. Why go to rehab is you are sick with another illness and Prince did not have to wait for Andrew ( who is not even a doctor) when he could have gone anywhere in the world. If you are deadly ill you go to a hospital. If you are terminally ill you get sent home to die. I have seen people sent home to die because nothing else can be done.
8) Do security cameras normally get removed from a building if the owner plans to continue to work in the building? What, no mention of rehab this time? Maybe he was planning on checking out for good. P wanted privacy, didn't want cameras picking up his last movements. Which would support the suicide theory. We can agree on this one. No reason to pull the cameras out if he was going to rehab. You just turn the cameras off until you get back. I just do not think he would kill himself just because of drugs. If he had no underlying illnesses he could have continued to take them with a controlled dosage and he could have been weened off. Loads of people are using drugs and they are not committing suidice over it.
9) Tyka comment doesn't mean he had terminal illness. Again, there's no evidence. Because you did not take the time to listen to her entire interview. She got the idea that he was going to die because he sent her an e-mail with a picture and a song. Something in that e-mail put the idea in her mind that he was going to die. Enough so that she believe it was happening soon after she received the e-mail. It does not sound like a guess or a hench he communicated something to her about death. She is also saying she is going to tell more later. So we are going to find out one way are another.
10) Most if not all of the associates know nothing. Apart from probably Kirk J.
I think some of the associates do know something as soon as Prince died at least a half a dozen said he we do not know the whole story. Well we know he died from drugs so what is the other side of the story? According to some recent info I found out about Kirk along with the comments Charles Smith made Kirk is not to be trusted as he has managed to gain quite a lot since Prince's death and is still lying to people. [Edited 12/27/17 4:39am] [Edited 12/27/17 4:51am] [Edited 12/27/17 6:44am] [Edited 12/27/17 8:29am] | |
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It does not say what shape the orange pill is just that it has an 8 on it. Below is a pic of Suboxone and it is not trangular. If he was taking this it would explain how a person who was suppose to be so ill was able to ride a bike, throw a party, and go to a jazz club. I will always believe he was withdrawing on his own with some help from Dr. S when things took a turn for the worst.
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Adding nothing as usual.
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. There was no need. Just some ideas: - Privacy (no one needed to know) - Ease of obtainign without prescription - Addiction, no real medical reason - Murder: he did not use them pills on a regular basis but someone planted them evil (strong!) opioids in there to kill him - ... Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. | |
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udo said:
. There was no need. Just some ideas: - Privacy (no one needed to know) - Ease of obtainign without prescription - Addiction, no real medical reason - Murder: he did not use them pills on a regular basis but someone planted them evil (strong!) opioids in there to kill him - ... Possibly also insurance for gigs. If these medications were not formally part of Prince's medical records/reports then officially he wasn't taking them. | |
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The warrant say orange OVAL pill. Zofran is orange and oval and has an "8" inscribed. Suboxone is not oval. The only suboxone found at PP was the ones Andrew brought with him.
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Yes, it does say that but in the middle of the warrant it also states " one orange pill with inscription number 8. I belive we are discussing two different orange pills that were found. One set of 8 in the dressing area and the 1 orange pill ( which the warrant does not describe the shape of just the number.
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Damn it Laura, now you triggered me, how do I respond to this?
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Also if he could no longer get prescribed medication due to new FDA regulations or the prescribed meds were not strong enough, he could have turned to other ways of obtaining the medications | |
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I think we are. He had the Zofran and Suboxone. | |
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Of course he could have he never stopped touring and he would have never been able to get insurance if promoters thought he was ill and not able to do his show. | |
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BUT, the markings on the suboxone is N8, not just the number 8. | |
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PennyPurple said: BUT, the markings on the suboxone is N8, not just the number 8. I thought about that too. In the Rx world does N = #? | |
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The N could stand for Number. | |
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purplefam99 said: PennyPurple said: BUT, the markings on the suboxone is N8, not just the number 8. I thought about that too. In the Rx world does N = #? No. Folic acid comes in a round yellow tablet with "N8" imprint. It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN | |
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The pill they describe in the second line is orange with an 8 on it. The pic is of an orange pill with an 8 on it which is Suboxone.
This is Folic Acid. They are not describing any pills as being yellow.
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